Living Tribunal vs Infinity Gauntlet

[@andrewboyer7544]

He should be like this in all his appearances. Dominant over everything. Unphased by even things like the classic gauntlet. Notice he doesn't seem moved or affected by anything that Warlock does? He's not some powerful character to be abused to show off another characters might. It's so dumb for him to ever even fight much less lose one. Great video Fernando.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

I agree bro ! Thank you my friend!

[@urusledge]

I hate how they did him dirty with the Beyonders. Really hope that gets retconned.

[@steve8450]

@@urusledge yes, and thanos vs TOAA

[@agentchaos9332]

Those aren't even the worst. The beyonders are broken outerversal beings, and they at least showed some respect by having them gang up on him, when 1 beyonder could solo the rest of the multiverse. Thanos was channeling TOAA's power when he beat him, meaning the only character who SHOULD be able to beat LT was amping Thanos. The REALLY bad jobbing came along when Lords Chaos/Order defeated him, and it was handwaved as " the new cosmic order wasn't stable yet." And when Nightmare defeated him, because the whole universe was asleep and he "Dreamed it was possible."

[@ЖамекЖамек-н6ч]

@@steve8450 Its not cannon

[@UnifiedEntity]

Oh, back when the Living Tribunal wasn't a damn joke.

[@Propraj]

He is only defeated by the beyonder I guess ? Or are there other characters ?

[@demod2080]

I love how the Council feels threatened by Adam Warlock, so they concoct this ruse of a "trial" as a means of legally deposing him. It's clever and cowardly. Good thing Adam used this as a means of making sure it never falls into the wrong hands.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

To be fair, it’s the nature of their very council to conduct their affairs like some legal matter. It’s how they usually treat affairs, even when their fighting some ne’er-do-well who’s gotten a freakish amount of power.

[@MrLim-wq2gn]

When Adam Warlock was in the Dimensions of Manifestation and the Living Tribunal explicitly states that if he clashes with Adam Warlock who was armed with the Infinity Gauntlet it would lay waste to reality and the dimensions they were in if they fought.

[@Yokai_Yuri]

The OLD Living Tribunal would absolutely stomp Adam Warlock. Didn't you see how less than effortless the Tribunal undo what the gauntlet did? The tribunal isn't a fighter as other cosmic entities, he is like a judge. The only problem with the old tribunal is that it was kind of incompetent because as you can see right here, Warlock was a menace to the universal balance(which the L.T supervises and manages) and he even let Warlock destroy eternity not once but twice lmao. No wonder why the LT got hyper squashed by 3 random beyonders.

[@willchurch8376]

While I've always been a DC guy, one thing that I used to appreciate in Marvel was their 'limits'. Not everyone, even very good, very heroic people could lift Mjolnir. No one, not even with the Infinity Gauntlet, could threaten the Living Tribunal. They even made a point to show that during the Marvel/DC Amalgam crossover, the 'Brothers' who were supposedly beyond the Living Tribunal (and Spectre who was seen as LT's DC counterpart) were simply playing out parts that the LT observed. There used to be a fairly clear power level breakdown, where you might beat say, Mephisto, but definitely not in his own realm. There were entities that could be fought, but not beaten, and you needed to resort to logic, or trickery, or something beyond brute force to actually win. That's not really the case anymore. The Living Tribunal has been reduced to Worf. Hulk is God. Anyone stunning and brave enough grabs ahold of Mjolnir and smacks around the cosmic entities of the universe with it to show that they're the new it thing. It's a shame.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

I agree. Their used to be order to the universe, which doesn't seem present anymore.

[@christopherhinton1555]

I agree with you 💯 marvel an DC have allowed the earth bound heroes to confront skyfathers an cosmic entities like they are street level characters it's terrible.

[@willchurch8376]

@@christopherhinton1555 Well, DC had a hard time ever setting limits in the first place, and then you have things like 'Jobberseid' and 'True Form Darkseid' to try and make the problem go away. Of course, it just kicks the can down the road until they want to show off a new hero's stunning bravery or brave stunningness, and have said hero wipe the floor with him. DC invented "mumblty mumble molecules" to explain their nonsense while Marvel was still bothering to show us Thanos being tricked by Mephisto into intentionally lowering his power level with the Infinity Gauntlet so that he could have some fun fighting the assembled heroes of the universe. Captain America doesn't show up with the codes to the Thanoscopter's self destruct function and threaten Thanos into backing down, he comes in with his shield, gives his absolute best, which we all know isn't enough in this instance, and Thanos smokes him. Cap goes out like a bad ass, refusing to bend even in the face of absolute power. It's a good showing for Cap, it's impressive as all hell, even *though* he loses. Now, no one knows how to write a story where the losing character looks more impressive than the winning one. Hell, they barely know how to write a story where the winning character looks more impressive than the losing one. Marvel really took the wrong page from DC's book. Both companies had their strong points and appeal once. And they've both lost that awhile ago. Superman 1 Million getting roflstomped was the last in a very long line of stupid power upsets for me. I'll watch Fernando's clips, and that's enough comics for this thirty five year long fan.

[@Tracks2008]

@@willchurch8376 Yeah that's what Marvel has done. They have become like DC where there are no limits to anyone's power now. I like that you are pointing that out as it is the whole truth. Marvel was only ever "better" because their characters had limits instead of random BS writing that was all over the place. Then Marvel (possibly at Disney's urging) decided to go the way of DC.

[@waleslandofdragons8842]

Will church I am thirty nine been reading both dc and marvel fanatically for over thirty years and I never thought my love for both would end almost turning to hate we will have to be content with what came before because I don't think we will ever get the good comic days back

[@unknownvitster]

I love how you continue to evolve as a content creator, adding new twists and turns as you go, making your content more interesting and you more relevant. I never understood why LT had a kumbaya moment with Adam Warlock, rather than just handing down his verdict. As an abstract entity, he should be more enigmatic, but the writers decided to make him more human.

[@theanonymousterryhall5419]

they are abstract entities to humans. but he was among other abstract entities which may have made them seem more human

[@oldgordo61]

@@theanonymousterryhall5419 The Living Tribunal was always depicted to be the most powerful cosmic enitity in Marvel yet having no free will of his own eternally bound to serve and function as judge of the Multiverse. The other cosmic entities particularly the abstracts are like LT unimaginably powerful yet bounded to thier duty/tasks to make sure reality run as it should. Then you have Galactus Watchers and the Celestials who are not abstract but nevertheless uber powerful yet still bound to thier tasks. Cosmic Entities are supposed to be above things like human emotions and human morality but as you said they have often been depicted showing very human emotions particularly anger. even greed and envy as Eternity showed towards Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gems.

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

Though shouldn’t a deity like LT be as thoughtful as he is here?

[@unknownvitster]

@@teleportedbreadfor3days I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but the abstract entities aren't like the gods or the God of the bible.

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

@@unknownvitster The Bible never even crossed my mind. But with all that power and such a high responsibility, I feel it makes sense for a god to be… well, you know what.

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

Back when the LT was a force to be reckoned with now he's in the spectre's position, sometimes he'll do something cool most other times he's laying on his back with the foe standing on his corpse pissing in his mouths.

[@michaelhornberger2539]

@@ashajacob8362 The new LT got already beaten three times. By Ordern and Chaos, by Thanos and by Korvac.

[@andrewboyer7544]

I hate the way writers can't handle showing a character being powerful without dragging someone down. It also proves they don't read comics. LT was a perfect character. He wasn't a good guy that fights evil. He was content to let Thanos rule his universe because it wasn't a threat to the multiverse. He only interfered in very specific situations. There's really no excuse for him to ever be beaten. If you beat him logically you risk the TOAA smoking you. When Thanos took him down with the heart of the universe i nearly quit comics... now look where we are.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Almost exactly what happened against the Beyonders lol

[@oluwadamilola6233]

​​@@michaelhornberger2539korvac never beat him, it was a vision of what might be but in that moment nope. Thanos with astral regulator isn't Canon.

[@michaelhornberger2539]

@@oluwadamilola6233 in Iron Man Vol 6 19, korvac hinted that He beat LT

[@samiel992]

Had this comic as a 7 year old and me at 31 still have vwry fond memories of it

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Glad you ran into it here bro !

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

The music in editing are top notch in this one!! Might be some of your best work on the channel! I love how this one turned out to be more of some debate then an actual throwdown!

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Thank you so much! I'm glad you've enjoyed it brother

[@GodxOfxObelisk]

Agree completely with Liz.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@GodxOfxObeliskliz?? OH goodness this was when I had issues with my username pftt

[@jiminlong7096]

This channel is just awesome. Its really unfortunate that you don't have half a million or more. More ppl need to see this channel.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Dude, I agree lol. And it means a lot to me that you'd say, thank you so much 🙏🙏

[@jiminlong7096]

@@FernandoComicsOfficial Ofc bro I've been subscribed for years now. These vids are just badass in all the ways. Your edits and music choices *chef's kiss." Not to mention it helps keep me updated on some fights bc I have not been able to read a lot of comics rn.

[@LordBrittish]

*How are you going to snap if you don’t even have fingers?* -Agent Smith The Living Tribunal maybe

[@ryuken338]

Your edits in the video are awesome Fernando. Great Job.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Thank you Ryu bro ! Good to see you my friend.

[@mj6258]

During Secret Wars 2 (original series) , the beyonder had all the beings here bowing down before him , begging him not to destroy mistress death. His power was that ridiculous before he was nerfed.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

I'll have to check that out man ! Thank you, I don't think I've seen that before. Hope all is well brother. 🙏

[@JayTeeGR]

Since both (LT and Adam) knew the future, that Adam would surrender the gems, then what was the point of all this drama. It was probably to make sure this certain future would unfold, because Adam still thinks on a human level, there was always the choice to revolt, but he chose not to.

[@dayoldeggplant]

He probably saw the future of him getting his butt handed to him lol

[@jimmyju76]

you know what's coming when LT gives the power and responsibility speech lol

[@ASK13131]

I really enjoy what they did with TLT and the infinity gauntlet here. Even The Living Tribunal, the second in command on the WHOLE MULTIVERSE, doesnt know if he can ACTUALLY take the gauntlet by force and yet, he is ready to fight for it. Its like a pistol duel, but in a much larger scale.

[@URAWESOME94]

It was a strange throw away line, because moments before that he snapped his fingers and immediately stopped the powerful fit of rage Adam was having with the gauntlet. It was momentarily removed from his hand also. He even said that his powers are far beyond even the gauntlet. Makes sense. As a multiverse being with power above all of them, one reality with one gauntlet doesn’t have any effect on him. The other entities around him are just the cosmic powers of that one universe. TLT is outside of all universes.

[@michaelgarcia5680]

It was on this day we learned the Infinity Gauntlet had an off switch

[@btdainsleif3480]

4:26 I didn't know that LT was actually uncle Ben

[@Super-Saiyan-Blue-Gogeta]

When Uncle Ben died he became the Living Tribunal.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

@@Super-Saiyan-Blue-Gogeta I like that theory lol

[@masterlight2]

The thing is, originally that phrase wasn't even said by uncle ben, it was actually written in a panel.

[@jimmyju76]

back when the Gauntlet meant something, nowadays that thing gets passed around more then a doobie at Woodstock

[@MrOrcshaman]

Its weird seeing eternity becoming so mad

[@KamiTenchi]

The Living Tribunal finally doing his purpose instead of being a fodder

[@oldgordo61]

I agree after his defeat at the hand of the Beyonders it got worse for this character. Then Marvel did the same thing to the Beyonders. But I hear they're susposed to reboot the Marvel Multiverse sometime this year but I'm not holding my breath for the writers to make Marvel right again.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Yeah, these days I see him and I know he's just going to lose lol

[@MIAPhilly]

Back when power was scaled properly and respectfully in a way that was easy to understand. I hate how they have it now where The Living Tribunal is some no one that can be thrown away like trash.

[@AmericanAmbazonian1]

I remember when these comics came out. Should've kept them.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Oh you had the physical copy ? How cool

[@AmericanAmbazonian1]

@@FernandoComicsOfficial I swear. The whole Infinity War spanning various comics, plus the Infinity Gauntlet saga. He gives Drax the Power Stone, Pip the Time Stone, etc., Etc. Man, my dad threw away all my comics one day & before he passed away last year, I told him, "Dad, we coulda been SUPER rich today." But we still did okay.

[@AmericanAmbazonian1]

@Big D Google how much the Infinity War series cost.

[@ericmadsen7470]

The One above all dwarfs all the others in this comic. None can compare.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Too bad he didn’t have jury duty

[@Shattering_Editzs]

Where's the part where TLT shuts of the power of infinity gauntlet from Adam Warlock?

[@kingexplosionmurder3764]

That doesn’t happen in this comic. LT doesn’t shut off it’s power until the Infinity War series which happens after the gems have been separated but then put back together to stop the Magus.

[@Dishinshoryuken]

Were the gems talking through Warlock without him realizing it?

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

It's possible ! He definitely may have had his mind influenced to a degree

[@maxus8075]

Good video. I won't be surprised if the Living Tribunal was uncle ben student or something

[@urusledge]

What they did to LT in Secret Wars 2 was dirty. I hope it gets retconned to that being a projection or m-body or something.

[@davidogundipe808]

Damn man you deserve half a million or even a million subscribers, the content you put out is great. Also happy new year!

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Dude it makes me so happy you've enjoyed it! Thank you bro

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

And happy new year to you as well!!

[@BovineDesigns]

It's weird to think this was back when things were simple. Now we have new cosmic entities and objects of power introduced every couple of years. Infinity Ending was such an awful story that broke all the rules for no reason.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Very true man. The whole hierarchy is unrecognizable at this point.

[@Willchannel90]

Marvel heroes: Take down with you Thanos, after Tony defeat you with your weapon! >:) Thanos the reality guardian: Jokes on you, I beat the gods. And your friend and yourself is fucked! >;) Marvel heroes: (Sad violin sound).

[@thewatcher486]

The beyonders beat LT? WHAT?

[@IAmShouTucker]

Spider-Man should sue the LT tbh..

[@shadoman7682]

Living Tribunal 1 Infinity Gauntlet 0

[@johndevillier2852]

🖖🏽

[@SolarWraith]

Adam just straight up disrespects Eternity...hilarious.

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Backhands him out of the story lol.

[@michaelhornberger2539]

Back then when LT wasn´t a jobber to Thanos. Now even TOAA jobs cause Jim Starlin loves his Darkseid copy so much

[@FernandoComicsOfficial]

Dude, so true. Starlin went out of his way to retcon Thanos' loss to Thor and constantly makes it clear Thanos is his special little princess.

[@oldgordo61]

Starlin has that much clout eh?Yes he loves Thanos the character has made him a lot of money over the years. I think he's taken his character Thanos as far as he can go with it..what else is left for Starlin to do with Thanos?

[@kingexplosionmurder3764]

That Astral Regulator series was terrible. It was only made to make Thanos and Warlock look cool, even going as far as to outdo God himself. Glad it isn’t canon. Not a work of Jim Starlin, but King Thanos was also bs. Ain’t no way that Thanos grows in power to the point of defeating the LT but struggles against his past self.

[@oldgordo61]

@@FernandoComicsOfficial Kind of similar to how Chris Claremont treated Wolverine not in terms of ridiculous power but the character was one of the most overly exposed characters during the late 1980s and 1990s yet little of anything relating to his true origin and true identity.

[@oldgordo61]

@@kingexplosionmurder3764 Well to be honest Thanos is a pretty cool character one of the very few character who could physically toe to toe with any version of the Hulk.But he's pretty much overdone with a flood of storylines involving him. The Astral Regulator storyline was as you said garbage.

[@kolat10]

Hmm hasnt marvels multiverse shrunk? An the smaller it is the weaker LT becomes....watch protoge come back and wipe everything out

[@segatouringcar3738]

Since he fell into the hands of Jim Starlin, Adam Warlock was a very poorly constructed character, childish and incoherent at all levels.

[@malisungur]

why

[@Dsandles47]

See, that’s Marvel’s issue: you can’t have 10-20 all-powerful Universe-level entities, because then you have messes like this.

[@paulparadis66]

I forgot how bad the artwork was on that book.

[@oldgordo61]

Are you kidding? The artwork was amazing especially the page sized panel where Adam Warlock and LT have an epic stare down .

[@thothgold2768]

Spiderman and uncle Ben are definitely tied to the ultimate source lol