Living with the 2018 Kia Stinger 4 Cylinder Turbo: - V6 Envy?

[@abahar12]

Coming in late to the party, but I just bought a used 4 cyl Kia stinger premium. Since I’m single and in my 20s, the first thing I did was put my foot to the floor on a left turn and even with traction control on, the rear end swung out into a power slide. For the price, I could not be happier with my performance sunroof.

[@dannyhidalgo2532]

You know what’s so funny is that I just bought the same stinger and I’m the same age 😂

[@Superfastjellyfish669]

Im so proud of kia turning things around and starting to shut the haters up

[@123456789554332]

they have been turning things around since 2011... it's pretty fucking clear at this point how they are holding up. They went from being a fucking terrible brand, to being one of the best, if not the best in the world. The Forte is a fun compact, that more than goes up against it's competition. The optima is the single best Mid sized sedan in it's class with zero competition. Sorento is good, and while I hate the way the soul looks it's insanely popular, I see more souls than I do F-150's at this point. The stinger is an amazing car that shut every brand snop up, and shows that while it has a KIA badge, it's in reality a mix of a BMW/Audi, except that unlike those 2, it won't break down 1 week after you drive it off the lot.@InnerGuide

[@dpjyule]

I have gone for the V6. Pick up in about two weeks. The GT2, gone for the polar white. Blue looks good though. Trading in my Alfa Giulia - most people will think that I am insane when park up at work as the Giulia always got a lot of comments. Good to try new things. The Giulia was a gamble and has been a great car, just find uncomfortable on long drives and have to keep adjusting the seat as my back hurts. Never had that with a vehicle before and a shame as have really enjoyed driving it. Did not enjoy the speeding ticket when first got it - but there are surely not many people when buy a fast vehicle don’t want to open it up now and again - or maybe more often than should on the open road!

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

David Yule That’s great. Is the body styling the same for the GT and the Premium?

[@jimbobaggans1564]

I'm from Western Pennsylvania but I am retired so the turbo 4 cylinder would be ok for me, with rear wheel drive. I would want the sun roof and the nicer interior.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Jimbo Baggans I wouldn’t mind a smaller Asian. But the body styling and cues are different and it’s not as cool looking

[@misaelalvarado5373]

Got myself the Premium 4 cyl RWD stinger. Man it gets compliments everywhere. People have complimented both the exterior and interior design! I love it!

[@noelj1492]

When I got out of the car Random people saying Hi to me 🫣 It was weird for me I was like wazzup 😆 I’m glad I bought a stinger!!

[@fnqrbasher6796]

My first kia is the 23 stinger gt2 and I've been in love with it I can't believe how well it performs! May not be the fastest thing out there but definitely fast and fun!

[@tntrolly9244]

For my first car I was able to afford, I absolutely love my Stinger 2.0 premium. Granted, it is a 4 cylinder, but it does what is needed and is definitely a fun drive!

[@yousefalaqeel8195]

is it any good drifting?

[@tntrolly9244]

@@yousefalaqeel8195 it’s not the best car for it but it’s pretty good

[@yousefalaqeel8195]

@@tntrolly9244 Thanks

[@javiellopez]

I bought my first Kia Stinger , Fun car to drive and I get people asking me, “ what kind of car is that “, makes me feel like a proud owner! Kia Corp. Kudos on a well produced vehicle!

[@placidomax]

I did choose. I got the GT 2. Love it.

[@CapELarry]

Jeffrey Bergman Me too!! I love it.

[@jesuschristislord77733]

👌

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

That’s great. Is the body styling the same for the GT and the Premium?

[@eonsofearth2907]

I got the more expensive one. The GT limited 365hp AWD fancy one! Thunder grey with the red leather, she is a beaut I tell ya.

[@swjace]

I have a white one with the AWD and it is a looker, but the beauty is not only skin deep, it’s a performer, the handling, the acceleration, this is a superb automobile period.

[@jjstuartonwriting8150]

I'm baffled, I recently bought a Kia and I love it. I don't get why so many people hate them.

[@pantherdagger3460]

JJ Stuart on Writing just jealousy.. From Subaru, Honda owners especially., they're usually the ones pulling up to me trying to race

[@jjstuartonwriting8150]

If I owned a civic I'd be insecure too, but jealousy from Subaru drivers too? I'm loving my Kia and fully expect it to easily last 7-10 years.

[@duncanator9307]

My 13 kia Optima is still sexy

[@alasdairmackintosh]

Vehicle snobs

[@vmfan96]

Randy Jenkins, or brand snobs. People are either insecure with their outward impression or afraid of reliability. I think the Stinger is/will do alot for the Kia brand. I had a Kia Sorento and Subaru wrx at the same time. Both are great value for the money. Most people don't know Kia is now in top 10 for reliability. If you are looking at buying a Kia you are a value shopper and have done your homework. I currently drive a Cpo Audi S4 and look forward to seeing what the Stinger will cost off lease with extended warranty. My choice would be for V6 turbo and...Although i love the awd grip, (especially living in Canada) I would be very tempted to get a tail happy Stinger GT 2wd.

[@samuelnunez888]

Ever since I bought in 2013 a Kia Sorento 2.2 diesel that could outrun just about any SUV with bigger engine displacement, I have become a Kia convert and believer. Now I have a sportage and a seltos. i am proud of the badge as it stands for quality and dependability.

[@michaeldelie7844]

I Have the basic 4 cyl version and have put 3300 miles on it. It has beaten my expectations on virtually every situation. Plenty of power, handles great, great gas mileage and you can't beat the looks. I think the biggest asset is the rear wheel drive. You just can't beat the feel and handling of a rear wheel drive car. I even drove it in Wisconsin during a snowstorm, and it handled beautifully and the traction control worked perfectly. Literally no issues.

[@marcloismendoza20]

any issue?

[@bendaniel2766]

Michael could you help me pls. I live in one of the north midwestern regions (almost 40 mins only to Canada). Drive feel wise, I definitely like the rear wheel drive. But, the only reason I'd prefer to add AWD is for the winters here. Do I need to get AWD? or just changing to all weather tires would do? Thank you.

[@fatmouth007]

@@bendaniel2766 I'd get some snow tires for the winter dood. I live in Jersey though so ymmv

[@bendaniel2766]

@@fatmouth007 thank you

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Ben Daniel Man, if I lived in the snowy climate, I would get all wheel drive for sure. It makes a huge difference.

[@RickTorn]

You are my favorite reviewer! Great delivery, and a recognition that those of us who buy this car are not street racers. This car will be driven to work and the grocery store.

[@danbernstein4694]

Most reviewers talk about soft plastics and cupholders, so I appreciate your researching medium ordnance carrying capacity .

[@paddyterhune]

Fuel drop-tanks...?

[@Nikodemis]

I got the 2018 2.0 priemium with sunroof and AWD and it was because of the fuel prices and the fact that that it was $29,200 with 20k miles. Also, when the dealership guy pulled up in this black on black beauty, I fell in love. 8k miles later, I still love it. KIA dealership experience is awesome too!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I got myself the 52k fancy one haha absolutely love it, but i would love to test out this 4 cylinder one I still think its good bang for the buck, It's just the overall package this can be your only car, its comfortable, sporty, practical, nice tech, interior I think that's why it does so well I have a hard time finding any flaws with it haha

[@USA____]

Exhaust Sports Auto should’ve bought a mustang, camaro, or a challenger

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Nick Henry why? What is your argument that those are better cars? I’m genuinely curious

[@PatrickLino]

Dont feed the troll bruv!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thats true Patrick but genuinely curious why tho you probably saw on our channel, it's just people love throwing random irrelevant cars at the Stinger that don't even compete or accomplish the same things 2 doors vs 5? I just wanted some logic behind it lol

[@CapELarry]

Nick Henry Ha. I have a mustang and a Stinger GT2. And after daily back and forth drives, I’m selling my mustang.

[@Longhillmom]

I chose the premium V4!!! Not an issue with the difference in cost between the base V6 and the premium!!! I took both out and I shocked the salesman with how I pushed the V4 - he said no one had even tried to push it. I realized the sun roof and the kick ass sound system with how powerful the V4 ACTUALLY is made for a better experience for me. I LOVE THIS CAR SO MUCH. I can out drive just about any car on the highway and it's smooth as silk. My only problem is I have to keep it in check so I won't get a ticket!! Let's face it, most people won't be racing around a track or have the opportunity to push the V6 to its limit anyway. Put it in custom with sport setting for the steering and comfort for everything else and the car drives even better. It's very annoying how this version of the car is ignored to the point of people not even mentioning it exists. No car salesman even showed us that it was a hatchback!! I can't get over how much fits into the back of the car. It makes you think there can't possibly be a back seat with that much space!! Would I have gotten the V6 fully loaded with the sunroof and sound system if money was not an issue - yes but I wouldn't have needed it and the money can go elsewhere!! I recommend this car to ANYONE and THANK YOU for recognizing how superior this car is to other cars that are for regular people.

[@alexcarrier6344]

Longhillmom I too would choose a fully loaded 4 banger over a base GT. I like to drive my cars hard because to me that’s when driving is fun! Anything with over 300hp is boring to drive because it’s so rare you can actually push the car. I have to admit though, you do feel kinda badass when driving a car with lots of power so I get why they’re desirable. But I’d rather a car that is fun.

[@KBzPTGT]

V4?

[@KBzPTGT]

I think some manufacturers have v6 with cylinder deactivation ;) but not in this case :)

[@ashs3380]

Current automakers in the world don't use V4 configuration.. Just saying.

[@andrewbailey1540]

I work for Kia. I just bought a 2019 4 cyl with sun and sound pkg. No reason for going with 6 except for premium colors like ceramic silver and Brembo brakes. Power is great and the harmon kardon sounds amazing.

[@busywl69]

Warranty: 5 yr/60,000 mi basic, 10 yr/100,000 mi powertrain yes. this is something all luxury car makers need to do.

[@clairekennedy8767]

busywl69 they would go bankrupt.

[@busywl69]

is hyundai and kia struggling? seems no different at the end of the day than Toyota making cars that run forever. they are still thriving.

[@fuckhead4204]

busywl69 I think she means companies like Mercedes and BMW would go bankrupt from the warranty repairs. Lol.

[@clairekennedy8767]

Arnoce Padecain excuse me I'm not a dude. I was referring to luxury brands because that's what you said.

[@busywl69]

lol. how bout it. they way most non Japanese car manufacturers make autos today, they would go bankrupt offering that kind of coverage on their cars. I have a friend with a 2016 ford who is already in the shop too much.

[@MiniEggs1999]

I'd buy less coffee/snacks and get a loaded V6

[@canadabear72]

I think Motoman got it just right. That's the beauty of this car. In base form, it competes with Accords, the Fusion, Passat etc. But it's rear wheel drive and far more fun than those cars. It still comes really well equipped too. High quality interior, 8speed, quad exhaust, leather seats that are heated and ventilated, heated wheel and so on. Great deal.

[@timpainter9537]

I just made this decision for myself. I live in Chicago and since my daily driving is from one stoplight to the next, I opted for a Premium AWD in Micro Blue and with Drive Wise. As much as I would've loved the GT2, I couldn't justify the extra expense for something I really wouldn't utilize but once in a blue moon. I love the car and think I made the right choice for myself. This is my 4th Kia--Soul Shadow Dragon Edition, Optima EX, Optima EX Hybrid, and have had close to no issues with any of them. I did want something a little more fun to drive this time and this fit the bill! Granted the last one was a hybrid, so pretty much anything else would have been more exciting! Love the car and highly recommend it!

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Tim Painter That’s great. Is the body styling the same for the GT and the Premium? I know the 2.0 isn’t as cool/aggressive looking. Just wondering if the engine and roof/stereo are the only differences.

[@iunlock4261]

Tough call, but I'd get the loaded 4cyl and have a blast 'after marketing' it up as it already has plenty of power for a GT cruiser type car. In reality, most people are not going to drive it like they stole it on a day to day basis, which to me makes the 4cyl more than adequate with the perks of better mpg and less weight. As for the suspension and minor interior details, that's all fixable. There is a very real value in the fun of getting aftermarket stuff for your car and customizing it to your liking. Not everyone wants a cookie cutter configuration and have to pay for what they don't even want, therfore, I think the Stinger offers a lot even in its stock form, which also makes it good for people who wouldn't be getting aftermarket stuff for their car. The Stinger is serious business and a legit contender. Great job Hyundai/Kia... + That 10 year warranty on a car like this? Even a fool would be haunted of the reality of how awesome that is if he looked the other way due to brand snob syndrome.

[@Dragonvale105]

iunlock guru oh I drive like I stole it every single day

[@MrHav1k]

Amen!!

[@iunlock4261]

@I want To die, there does exist some of us like that. :P Imagine boosting the 4cyl turbo though. With the power increase on the 4cyl from some after market treatment, in ratio is still more favorable due to it being a lot lighter. (power to weight ratio.) Can't go wrong either way imo. However, at that borderline price point, since it'd be a daily driver, I'd opt for the loaded 4cyl turbo. Now if I was planning to camp at the track, I'd pick the stripped down v6 turbo and gut it even more.

[@Fee.1]

iunlock guru what was he talking about when he mentioned the compression ratio of 10:1

[@iunlock4261]

Fee Nicks, he was referring to the compression ratio of the 4cyl and was implying that there's room for some more boost (indirectly)? I'd have to re-watch and double check.

[@asmrsleep3079]

My mom just bought a white Kia Stinger Premium yesterday. It's amazing!!! I wish she got the blue but... Either way it's definitely a step up from her Optima

[@AmberEyedVirgo]

I absolutely love my Stinger! I've bought it in December after trading my Volvo S60. I did buy the base model 4 cyl turbo with the drive assist thingys, it's peppy and my son's call it my midlife crisis car. I have adult children and a granddaughter, her car seat fits well in the back and still leaves room in the back seat for passengers. I do wish the base Stinger came with the heads up display as well.

[@RickTorn]

Don't need a stiffer suspension ... unless you drive only on perfect roads.

[@xAttack]

Nice video on the Turbo 4. If I had the money, I'd still go for the standard v6 GT. Was lucky enough to test drive one and was super impressed with Kia's design and performance. Not to mention it has the space for two car seats and a sizeable trunk. Father of two here in CA.

[@paultaylor9019]

I've had a 2019 2.0T for 4 years now, Ceramic grey with red nappa interior and all the bells and whistles (over here in the UK it's a GT line -S) - heated and ventilated seats (including heated rear seats), heated steering wheel, 15 speaker stereo, full width sunroof, head up display, power tailgate etc - absolutely love it!

[@airriongalloway6998]

The reason why I like your reviews motto man, you actually admit when you’re wrong. You also address those issues also.

[@jwilliams703]

I love mine. cant live without it. dont care what anyone thinks about kia they are the shit.

[@pantherdagger3460]

J, Williams Absolutely 💯

[@AshAirheart1995]

Can u see out the back of it to well? I saw one at a festival and the back looked to low and hard to see out of?

[@haroldjamison556]

# ME TOO I GOT KIA YUP for my license plates,because for the last 8yrs I bought new Kia every (2yrs) and EVERYONE asks me " is that a KIA I say YUP😆

[@JulioCNY]

What time of Engine do you have the 6 Cylinder twin Turbo Engine or the 4 Cylinder Turbo Engine and is it Reliable???

[@jwilliams703]

@@JulioCNY The V6. its very reliable car.

[@hakinen4000]

Great review!!....you also forgot to mention the amazing 10 year 100k miles warranty. Happy owner of a GT2 RWD Stinger.

[@CapELarry]

Rob Silva Me too! I got the limited edition Sunset Yellow GT2. Super happy.

[@7SlicesOfPizza]

Rob Silva yeah kia/hyundai warranty is just awesome. And the maintenance cost is so low as well.

[@camoz123]

wait you get 10 years? In Australia, we only get 7 and that's heaps! Most other Aus car companies only offer 2 to 3 years.

[@rdcruick]

What is the benefit of RWD?

[@attocoulomb]

"What is the benefit of RWD?" Handling.

[@jaylee4546]

I got the 4 Cycl awd for a daily driver and so far so good. I also agree with most of the points in this video.

[@airbornedaddydan]

I beg to differ with your statement starting around 4:20. I went to the Kia dealership a couple of weeks and left with the stinger with the 2.0 twin turbo 4 cylinder. I figured I could live with it. I drove from the dealership to my house which is approximately 13 miles from the dealership and immediately called the salesperson when I got home. I told him I made the wrong decision and asked if I could bring the car back and get the GT. Luckily the dealership was accommodating and I was able to take it back and get what I really wanted. 2.0 Stinger is just flat out boring.

[@paulblack9878]

daniel olivares did you trade a base 2.0 or premium 2.0 for a base GT?

[@airbornedaddydan]

Paul Black I traded in the 2.0 Premium. Don’t get me wrong. It was a beautiful car. As a matter of fact, it had more features than my GT model. It just didn’t have the ummppphhhh in horsepower that I fell in love with when I drove the GT model.

[@airbornedaddydan]

Paul Black and yes, I did trade it in for the GT model. Not the GT1 or GT 2

[@nw3242]

Surprising enough I had to make that decision. I chose the Stringer Premium in blue like in the video over the GT. It does everything I need in Los Angeles. Love it!!

[@HEYSERG]

How's it going so far? I'm thinking about getting one next summer

[@haroldjamison556]

Ok ok he got me,He talked me into getting the base,but not until may 2019 when my lease is up on my 2016 Optima Hybrid

[@James-sf1ci]

I recently bought the 4cyl Stinger Premium w/Driver Assist which is right at $40k MSRP (the lease cash buyout deals right now are awesome, and who pays MSRP anyway?). I wanted the car & all the tech (Kia's lane centering & radar cruise is actually pretty darn good in comparison to other 2017/2018 cars), but I didn't care about the horsepower since A) the 4cyl has plenty of power anyway and B) it's just a commuter and highway cruising car for me. Saved at least $6k versus a similar TTV6 car (GT1+Driver Assist), have lower on-going fuel costs (probably $2500 saved over 100k miles), and get the benefits of 18" vs. 19" wheels (cheaper tires, less chance of wheel damage, less NVH). I also think the long-term repairs (past the 60k and 100k mile warranties) and the maintenance costs will be lower on the 4cyl cars since they don't have the active dampers, twin turbos, and won't be putting as much of a beating on the 8sp transmission. I do have a family, and I was checking out various hatchbacks and wagons before I found the Stinger. The hatchback + folding rear seat design was an absolute must have for me, and I was really glad to be able to get what I wanted in such a cool and reasonably priced car.

[@hpmetabolics7558]

Great buying analysis explaination!

[@haroldjamison556]

I couldn't have said it better myself I LOVE MY STINGER PREMIUM

[@RickTorn]

My Kia Stinger Premium was $33,600 out-the-door. Fantastic!

[@ohmymeatballs]

Did you lease it? I'm curious to know what you were able to get the payment @...

[@haroldjamison556]

@@ohmymeatballs First of all I just leased my 8th Kia since 2008 So I get the VIP treatment when I buy new cars I traded in my 2016 Kia Optima Hybrid Ex and got my new Kia Stinger for no$ down $416mth

[@phych]

If the question weren't posed, of course GT2 with all the fancies. That said, I would prefer 4 cyl all in. On one hand, I'm a tech head and I love the gadgets and gizmos. On the other hand, as those of you from LA know, my opportunity to drive all out is next to nil, so I wouldn't be able to take advantage of the V6. I would rather be comfortable and entertained 100% of the time with my daily driver than to have the ability to MAYBE drive a bit harder, but still wishing I had all the things.

[@fiftyshadesoffde]

Thanks for the great review. I'm a family man and will be grabbing a used one in the base or premium trim soon!

[@williamproctor5317]

I bought the premium 4 cyc Stinger about a week ago and absolutely love it! I previously had a 2013 Avalon v6, and as the guy say in the video, you wouldnt kno the Stinger was a 4cyc! very smooth ride and picks up fast! Got the 4cyc premium for $35K with sunroof and ALL the options! keep in mind, the GT base has nothing in it for $40k+ .... i rather have the options personally... and the savings

[@mitchtillery8360]

I work at a Kia dealership and i have personally driven all trims levels. I would definitely pick the lower model with the added packages because even with the twin turbo 4 cylinder, you're still gonna have a lot of speed, the v6 isn't necessary. But i love all the cool features you can add in the lower models.

[@Magnetorheological]

I'd probably go with the GT trim, it's the best bang for buck with the V6.

[@josephc2]

Love the payload capacity! So does my dog :) I have the base model, bought it used traded my Z4 bc needed AWD in winter here. Love this car - heated comfortable steering wheel. Really moves up the PA hills.

[@deanw8722]

I would get the top of the line 4cyl. It's a great daily driver with more HP than you need of daily driving.

[@gummipk]

that’s what I ended up going with

[@timetofl0at340]

@@gummipk have you done anything to it

[@gummipk]

@@timetofl0at340 Intake, exhaust, and JB4 piggy back (tune stuff). Really wakes the car up. Plan on getting some new wheels soon too

[@timetofl0at340]

@@gummipk what kinda 0-60 times you running? Just wanna get an idea of how much those mods wake them car up ya know

[@daniel_alexander_]

Kia of Korea- DO NOT listen to him about the stop start feature! We want to be able to control the feature every time we turn the car on. Most of the time I don’t want it on- much less city driving here in the USA. If the consumers need it... hey just turn it on. There are manufacturers that have it set auto every time the car turns on. It’s an annoyance

[@jbm0866]

Daniel Alexander That's what he was saying, and clarified when responding to my post. I was a bit confused as well, but he simply wants an option for the car to remember it's last setting, (IE: if you had it off last time you drove, it would be off until you consciously turn it on again and vice versa) and I think that's a very reasonable request. Personally I don't like stop/start so it's a wasted feature in my mind.

[@Johnny-lr5jt]

I think stop/start has to default on or they can't use it to get the best CAFE mileage rating possible.

[@quentinwhiteman321]

I hate that feature! It drives me nuts. I’m not buying his car to save 5percent on fuel

[@clairekennedy8767]

Quentin Whiteman in real life it’s less more like 1% it’s so stupid.

[@ChrisPollard]

Yeah, and auto start/stop is one of the worst ideas ever developed and marketed. Start/stop cycles are the number one point of wear on an engine. Puts more strain on batteries, starters, and accelerates the death of the engines. It's all well and good while the car is brand new, and the re-starting is reliable. Let's see what it's like on its 2nd or 3rd owner, when start-ups may not be so quick or reliable, and all those extra start/stop cycles have taken their toll on the engine internals. Nope, I don't ever want auto stop/start in my car. I've had it on rentals, and that was more than enough.

[@stephendonato7347]

I have a optima with the same engine and it's a fantastic car. It's fully loaded and the best car I have ever owned it soaks up the wide open spaces of Australias country roads like a true GT should.I'm getting mid 8's even around town and down to low 7's on country roads. I would love the GT2 but will consider a fully loaded 4cyl

[@canadabear72]

Stephen...it's not the same engine. It has very different tuning. But I also love that Optima turbo!

[@briananthony4044]

Best thing about the Optima is that it's looks are close enough to the Stinger, especially from the side, that a 'cough' badge change would give you a 'Stinger' for a lot less, especially if the Optima is acquired second hand.

[@mikefusco7215]

Give me the manual from the Genesis G70 so I could have the sport back with a manual and the 2.0 turbo. That would be a great car.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Sorry no hatch in the G70 it's a tiny little car

[@attocoulomb]

The manual option does seem to make more sense in the Stinger GT than in the G70.

[@martinburns2957]

trstnhn day

[@stimpy1414]

@@MeynMotorGroup G70 is not tiny.

[@alaindesforges]

I bought the G70 Genesis with the 2.0 with the manual. Absolutely love my car. One of the most engaging and fun cars to drive that I've ever had. They lent me a G80 with the V6 while mine was serviced. Strong pulling car, no doubt, but to me, that's all it has. Hard pulling, strong acceleration, but otherwise pretty boring and heavy in the corners. I was missing my 2.0.

[@swp_sting3r]

Give me the 2.0 premium, I think that has plenty of power and looks awesome, the GT is great but honestly I dont even think I need all that power.

[@matty1053]

My co-worker bought one new a year ago, and he loves it. Took it on 3 trips from Michigan to South Carolina. I drove it and I am thinking of getting one myself. He put 28k on his Stinger, no issues so far. He averages 25.8mpg! He drives 50miles round trip to work, 5 times a week... in heavy city traffic. Driving it on michigan roads... it handles them very well!

[@Squidforhire2]

Just bought the 4 cyl Stinger, with the sunroof. Had a GT1 2019 to compare it with and it was surprisingly not that much difference to me, plus the way these hog gas, the 4cyl I'm still only getting 21MPH, I hear the 6's are averaging 19, so I think it's just a better package. Mine's AWD, as I live in the snowy northeast.

[@Middle-of-nowhere]

I would pick the base stinger gt over the other cars It has a poweful engine💪🏼

[@Tully3674]

Wouldn't the Buick Regal compete with a base Stinger? As for which car to choose, I'd take a well equipped 4 cylinder vs the GT. I'm a realist: In SoCal traffic, I need amenities inside the car to pass the time. And 365hp won't get me from Beverly Hills to Burbank any faster then the 2 ltr.

[@MotoManTV]

I LOVE me some Buick, but dynamically, this is a better driving car. As for the interior . . . the Kia WAYYYYY better.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I think the only close competitor to the stinger is the Bmw 440i maybe Audi S5 sportback but these are soooo expensive even as far as leases go

[@Lolimaster]

Add repair costs/maintenance to the mix and even the fully loaded GT+gas will look dirt cheap.

[@Unclejeffrocorey]

A GM product is a complete joke compared to any Asian/Korean manufacturer.

[@paulblack9878]

Drove the base 3.3TT AWD and a premium 4 cylinder AWD back to back in town and on the highway today. I truly thought the V6 would blow me away but other than the power, it really didn't. If anything, the V6 felt heavy and the ride wasn't as smooth as the premiums (19inch wheels played a part, i'm sure). The 4 just felt more nimble and tossable. For the price, you get sooooo much more with the premium. That's where i'd put my money.

[@dcengland]

You make a pretty good argument for this car. I was in the mindset that one should only buy the V6 and the I4 was a throw away option. But I just went and configured a fully loaded Optima for over $37k and yes I would much rather have the Stinger for $38k. You have opened my eyes to possibilities

[@RickTorn]

Just bought a Stinger Premium. Love it!!! Out-the -door for under $34,000.

[@MrJameel22]

RickTorn: Damn, that was a hell of a deal!

[@ricardomontanez5878]

I got the GT for 42k. In white. I love the car. I chose the GT over the 4 cylinder because of the extra power. It’s white with the red and black leather.

[@UpwindHJO]

As an owner of a gt2 awd I would have to say pony up but I had also test drove the 4 cylinder a year prior and I honestly felt the how much lighter it really was. It was smoother on the road and was far more eager on its turning dynamics some of the best steering I had ever felt, yes better than the gt2. Unless you are someone like me who thrives on the speed and acceleration you will probably be happy with the 4 cylinder.

[@EchoSigma6]

I would go with the loaded up 4 banger over the base V6 because I live in Los Angeles and will need to enjoy the fancy stuff while sitting in traffic with my family.

[@traveltx]

I got the base GT in that exact blue. It did come with the 2k nanny pack, and the 2.2k AWD which gives you a lot of car for 43k out the door. Honestly, I got those because that car was sitting right in front of me, and I didn't want to wait. I think the BIG takeaway here is that you get value at every trim level and price point. Maybe a little less at the 54k GT2, but as you found out, there are plenty of people talking themselves into it.

[@LordBass]

You sold me on the value of the base car. $32k base is compelling - I see a new one at a distant dealer for $28k. I'm likely to cross shop the Accord 2.0L 6MT at this price, though expect the Kia is be more fun to drive. Drooling over big German five doors for my next car, and the Stinger fits in that class. New England rust here, DINK. Snows like it's free, I'd go with the 2WD anyway on principle.

[@IronGumby]

Exactly what I'm cross shopping! Did you choose?!

[@echtogammut]

I've been on the Stinger forums and there are some serious discounts to be had on these. I've been cross shopping this with the A5 Sportback and 430GC, because I want something I can haul a bike in the back and mount kayaks to the roof, while still being a bit fun to drive. My biggest issue is the dealership/sales people themselves, which come across like those "no credit-no problem" used car dealerships. That said, I didn't really look at the 4cyl, so now I'm torn because if it's good at $38k... still the red interior is a must have, so I will stick with the GT1 package.

[@swanblake]

MKTech so you are made at the dealership for treating you like you are buying a cheap car because you are buying a cheap car? This isn't Audi or BMW

[@echtogammut]

The majority of the Stingers on the lot were GT2, with a sticker price of $50k... so not exactly cheap. Plus, why should they treat anyone like that because they are buying a "cheap" car? My nearest BMW dealership had the audacity to inflate MSRP prices on their window stickers, I guess thinking no one has Internet access, so isn't like BMW are saints, they are just nicer about it.

[@jbm0866]

Blake Swan These things may not have the same lofty pricetag as their German counterparts, but they are no longer cheap. And for that matter, Hyundai/Kia hired away some of the best minds Audi, BMW (and GM as well, Corvette chassis engineer) have to offer, and staffed a fairly new design studio in Germany with...wait for it...German engineers and designers from other parts of Europe. The days of Korean cars being made for the domestic market and then sold elsewhere as cheaper versions of loaded Japanese cars are over. I'd say Hyundai/Kia has nearly drawn even with some of the Japanese stalwarts, and now has the European brands sweating as well. Now that they own their own steel mill, they will always be able to offer more for less money than the competition, and pretty soon they will get to the level there are zero compromises. Keep in mind many people scoffed at the Japanese makers daring to try to compete with Mercedes, Audi, BMW and even the American luxury brands, then Acura, Lexus and Infiniti happened...nobody is doubting any longer.

[@JD-fx1np]

MKTech hi, I've been feeling the same...want something to still carry a mountain bike. My dog too. But he fits fine in the back. I was looking at volkswagen GTI too. I can put a hitch on that for $125. But on the stinger...nooo..so what did you decide? I wanted something cooler than a subaru outback and forester too. I'm trying to stay under 45K. But if I spend that much I can get a Golf R. Or the new volvo XC40.

[@haroldjamison556]

Thank You! I followed your lead got my Premium for $ 37 out the door🤑

[@lixiaochen6]

I will take the 4 banger with fancy seats and speakers any time of the day. Cuz i love better interior features. They are gonna be used more than the occasional backroad driving, where 4 banger is still enough.

[@youngalwyn1124]

Motoman complained about the fixed-in-place navigation and Apple CarPlay display screen, saying that KIA should either relocate it or make it retract. FYI: If that screen doubles as a video display screen for the [mandatory] rear mounted backup camera, then *by law* (as of 2018) that screen must be non-retracting and visible at all times. I learned of this rule during my attendance at NAIAS 2018.

[@MinuteMarketingTv]

i was swaying back and forth regarding Premium vs GT basic and decided to go Premium. Nice to have 355 hp but in reality not going to use or need it. I would have liked some of the GT inside trim touches and alloy pedals but overall i am totally in love with the 720 watt Harman Kardon sound system... nice to have the sunroof as well.

[@SilentKnight43]

365hp and 376 ft/lb torque. But yeah, the H/K system is great - an improvement on the Infinity system I had in an Optima EX.

[@MrStlover99]

Of wow, that burnt oranges stinger stung me!!!! I'm a Subaru guy and I approve this car

[@Toutvids]

Lots of people get caught up in the high HP game even though most of them will never use the power of a 360 HP car. I bought the 2022 2.5T AWD GT Line this past week. 300 HP is quite a bit of power on every day streets, going to work or going shopping. You won't be launching these cars in traffic unless you're an idiot. For grown adults, that work for a living, this car is the most fun I've ever had. I can get after it once in a while and listen to the engine growl but remain comfortable and in control on my way to work.

[@rrrogster]

I bought a new Inifiniti Q60 with the turbo 4 last year. What a hot car! I test drove the v6 and found it had way too much torque for the car and it just couldn't put it all to work without losing traction. I am SO glad I went with the turbo 4. I don't play boy racer. Like most people who aren't unhinged with this kind of money I prefer something I can live with everyday that isn't going to beat me up. Now I am in the market for a replacement car for another older sedan and this one looks like it for me. I don't have the need to impress others with how much I can borrow or how much I can owe. I'm just looking for the best bang for the buck. I'm old enough to remember when everyone thought they HAD to have a v8. Then the manufacturers started making and marketing decent v6's with lots of torque. Now you have a few dinosaurs around with v8's in them and they are mostly my grandfather's type of car. The turbo torque at low end with the 4 cylinder combined with the outstanding 5 year 60,000 mile warranty that is standard on all Kia's has me convinced. You mentioned the significant weight reduction with the turbo 4 and 2wd and that brings the weight ratio to a nearly perfect 50/50 ratio. Who else does that? Tell me 1 Porsche product that offers that kind of perfect weight ratio. By the way does anyone know what kind of engines the formula 1 race cars have been using forever at the Indianapolis 500? Turbo 4's of course. Best bang for the buck!

[@TorkMotorsports]

You really need to drive a tuned Stinger :) Its a massive change in the dynamics of the car.

[@bwfam0521]

from my experience in owning a car, creature comforts and safety features are more important in daily driving. If its going to be a second car, DEFINITELY the V6, but I'd daily the I4!!

[@1golfbag]

I'm a proud owner of a 2017 Ford Fusion se 1.5 ecoboost. When I went shopping they had a deal on this car had 32000 miles I bought it for $16,500. They had to do alot of convincing to get me to drive a 1.5L 3300Lb car glad I did. I don't think people understand how far they have come with turbo charged 4 bangers! I can only imagine what the 2.0 in the stinger is like. Even though I really like my blacked out Fusion I'm sure if I drove a stinger I would be disappointed coming back to my Fusion! I am a single dad with 2 high school age children so I would definitely choose the 4 over the six and I'm sure there will be plenty of bolt-ons in the near future to give that extra thrill to them that want it!

[@Steve-li1ru]

I usually don't like Korean cars because I hadn't driven one in over 18 years. The other day, I drove a crossover and I was actually very impressed with the power. Kia has come along way.

[@Raymond85301]

Just made my last payment on my 2016 optima, think a stinger is in my immediate future!

[@greggScutum]

I drove the 2.0 turbo for a couple of days, I was absolutely charmed, and I would definitely stay with it (Poland). (the rest of the money would go for fuel and travels)

[@SpykeZ0129]

One thing that makes a huge difference in the "only 1100ish for the V6" is the insurance difference between the 4 and the 6 is pretty huge

[@savasez]

Your review on the car was awesome! I just lease the base model last week even before I saw your video. Even though I've had the car for only a week I'm super happy with it. I got my car at Kia of Carson, sticker was 34885 I put down $1600 down, 15k a year at $400.01 payment a month. ( with taxes included) I had seen lease specials for 299+taxs and fees but of course it required a much bigger down payment and only 10k a year. I think I got a pretty ok deal... thoughts?

[@Noposwowskis]

it's true, my neighbor has the GT2 but I hardly see any other Stingers out here in Los Angeles

[@ricksprings]

Pito Licker, I'm in Altadena. I've only seen 1 on the road so far. Let's see what 2019, 2020 models feature & value from 2018s before I'm fully sold. I like that ceramic silver w/red leather 😉

[@jbwise2002]

I’d take the maxed out 4cyl, but I would really want some different color options, especially Panthera Metal & Red Chroma exterior and Red / White Leather interior. My ideal build would be Premium at ~41k w/ drive wise pkg in Panthera Metal (GT only) and White Leather interior (only offered in GT2 w/ blue.)

[@Ali-su9em]

I got the loaded basic model. I drive a lot for work but mostly in traffic so I didn't see the need for 365 hp. Plus a sun roof is a must for me. I love everything about it.

[@t.k.morris]

Do you have to use premium fuel and what kind of fuel mileage do you get?

[@Ali-su9em]

T.K. Morris Yes I do use premium fuel. I get about 27 to 30 mpg highway when I drive in eco.

[@mikemartinez661]

From 19-21 I drove a 2016 Ford Fusion s with about 175 horsepower. I Just bought my first car, a Kia stinger 2.0 premium Rwd sun and sound package along with full safety package. I’ll let you know what I think when I take delivery!

[@kenkrzak4117]

Almost bought the blue 4 cylinder Stinger base with the AWD, but in the end, bought the Honda Accord 2.0 T Touring for 32.9k. The Accord is faster 0-60, has a sunroof and has more variation in the interior color, bigger wheels 19". I gave up the cool blue color and the AWD, but no regrets.

[@Veriusgaming]

I did pick, got the 4cyl AWD premium stinger because at the time (right at launch) Kia was giving enough money off a lease that the premium AWD 4cyl cost the same as the base RWD 4cyl cost now.

[@oooantoniomart30]

I own a 2015 pearl white Kia Optima SXL recently bought a 2020 Aurora black Kia Stinger GT I love both my cars

[@cadsux]

I've owned only coupes and hatchbacks, never a sedan. I own a 2015 Mustang GT and would replace it with either Stinger choice if I have kids, for the same reason you said that this is a more compelling choice over your typical mid-size sedan. I live in the San Francisco peninsula.

[@klasseact6663]

Underdog...winning!

[@phlydude]

Everyone raves about Audi A4, A5 and A6 with the same type HP and torque specs - why not the Stinger? I would definitely strongly consider the loaded 4 cyl turbo of this vehicle. I originally looked hard at the A5 Sportback with the lift-back design being practical for the rare times I may need to haul something home from a Costco shopping trip but the price quickly gets to loaded Stinger GT levels and beyond. However, without looking hard at the specs on the base GT vs loaded 4 cylinder, the mid-life crisis me cries "more power" I would not go AWD on this car - just more to maintain and break I live in Florida, have no kids but have 3 mini-Schnauzers (which are as stubborn as kids and can't clean up after themselves) - I lived in the Mid-Atlantic for many years and brought my 4WD Nissan Titan down to Florida with me - I've had that thing for 13 years now and even living in an area that got its fair share of snow and Nor'Easter blizzards, I can count on two hands the number of times I actually felt the need to put it into 4WD (and most of them involved driving over muddy grass areas).

[@SamsonSlayer]

I know 52k is a lot compared to the lower trim levels. But the V6, HUD, Napa leather seats, memory seats, sun roof, premium sound, tech package, cooled seats and on and on. It changes from a good car to a really great place you want to spend time in. My opinion anyway.

[@Timodon1]

Good video! And blue socks matching the car, thats great! :) Regards from an Swedish Stinger man with diesel engine!

[@BoodymeatJr]

I got a GT2 with 10k miles for $36k, loving it so far. The car feels quick even before boost hits and once it does you’re just getting dragged.

[@GT-ed2un]

I got the GT2 fully loaded awd, but only because it was right as the cars were hitting the lots, and they were offering $7,800 off the msrp. Factor in another $2,500 I negotiated off that, and it was well worth it. I also didn’t care for the sound of the 4 cylinder, that gear selector carried over from the optima, that dull black trim, and a handful of other creature comforts lacking from the base model that were offered only to the GT2. Outside of the 2013 X5 50i I used to have, this feels like the best car purchase I’ve ever made. Never thought I’d say that about a Kia.

[@MotoManTV]

Wait a minute - you got US$10,300 off at introduction? Did you buy or lease?

[@Llegrats87]

I would get the 4 cylinder with the premium package. I would use the features more than the power... But there is always tuning.

[@haroldjamison556]

Just got my Premium 👍🏼👍🏼

[@reginalddyson9716]

What a great video! I truly enjoyed your perspective. Thank You!!

[@YasumotoUS]

The Stinger is an interesting option. I could make the case for the Honda Accord with the 2.0L power plant, especially because of the available third pedal. BUT that hatch is a game changer. If Honda was still offering the Contour, then I'd probably could make the case for sticking with their product. Yet, the Stinger's hatch and available AWD with the 4 cylinder is compelling -- especially if you want to stay out of the cute ute market. Agreed that the Camry is a contender, but no hatch, no AWD and the six cylinder puts a buyer into the mid $30k range. If Subaru were to offer a Legacy sedan with the new Ascent power plant, that might be worth a look. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with the 4 cylinder Stinger. Cheers!

[@Dannyar10]

I love my 2.0 Premium model. With rebates for lease it's under 30k what I got it for based on invoice minus rebates. I would of had to go to the gt1 just to get moon roof, 16 speaker system and navigation that my 2.0 premium comes with. Bought mine in Florida and yes have a family of 3 kids and wife. They love it and fit comfortably.

[@ohmymeatballs]

How much is your lease payment?

[@andrewleonard938]

Basic GT. Bought it with the Drivewise package. Great car!

[@realkarfixer8208]

32-37K you are in the Dodge Charger Scat Pack range, that's a 485 HP 6.4L V-8. I don't have much of a commute, so fuel consumption isn't an issue. Still thanks for an honest review of the 4 banger Stinger, it looks like a really good car, and I'm also surprised that people are queuing up to spend 52 large for a Kia.

[@al821]

I remember test driving this car and loving it. I would’ve bought one used if the market wasn’t so fucked. I ended up with Niro because it’s more practical and the car is more comfortable for passengers

[@MNM14ful]

I bought the GT2 because I love all of the bells and whistles! I also love the beautiful 19" rims. Unlike the base Stinger, when I turn on the auto hold function in my car it kicks in each time I stop. I don't have to constantly keep pushing the button.

[@James-sf1ci]

He meant that it annoys him that you have to push it every time you start the car up.

[@MNM14ful]

Okay, thanks for the clarification.

[@pauljh74]

In Australia, for decades 2 cars dominated car sales -the Ford Falcon and Holden Commodore. They were RWD family cars offered mainly in 6 cylinder and 8 cylinder variants. A few years ago, production of both were ended. I had 2 Falcons - a 1983 and a 1998. For the price, you got a lot of car for the money. I went for the NA 6 cylinder both times. The Stinger with the turbo 4 and turbo 6 appeal to those same buyers of the Ford and Holden. For that reason, the turbo 4 cylinder with the power of those NA 6 cyl cars is going to be my choice. Those who bought the V8 (or turbo 4 litre 6 offered in the Ford) would naturally go for the turbo 6 GT Stinger. My last car had 166kw/ 364Nm or 220HP and 270 ft-lb with a 5 speed manual. It was the Tickford tweaked model with a few mild sporting tweaks and I felt that was a little more power than I wanted for a daily. My current car is a Mazda 3 SP23 (2.3 litre, but not turbo, that was the MPS). Being lighter and being a 6 speed it is not much slower than my previous car. I do miss that big slab of torque, but not the fuel bill! In the 80's and 90's cars like Mazda 323 or Toyota Corolla etc were small. I dismissed these cars as ownership options for me. In the early 2000's they got taller roofs and a bit more space, to the point where guys like me who wanted a bigger car could downsize comfortably. Leg room was lacking a little for longer trips, a 3 hour drive had my right leg going a bit funny and I almost traded it for a Mazda 6 2nd gen at one point, but the lack of used cars for sale in the variant I wanted put an end to that. So my next car will be bigger than the Mazda 3 and the Kia Stinger fits the bill. They're aimed a little more upmarket than the old Ford and Holden, because they're aiming for the Germans, the next gen Mazda 6 also appeals, but I buy used to maximise value and the Mazda won't be in my price range for a few years. A lot of the reviewers tell people to forget the 4 go for the V6 Stinger, which is fair if money and running costs are no issue. It is a bit like saying buy a Ford Mustang GT over an Ecoboost. The 4 cyl Stinger can do 0-60MPH in a little over 6 seconds - that isn't slow for a larger sedan. My older Ford did it in about 7.5 seconds and I was happy with that.

[@williamphillips2239]

I test drove the Stinger 4 love the look of the Stinger & the ride. I'm tempted to trade-up my 16' Optimal SXL but I'm disappointed that the Turbo 4 cyl model doesn't have a body trim level closer to the GT2. The Optima had 5 trim levels with the top trim ...SXL ...being much more attractive than the other levels (at least the first 3 levels) IMHO ...and I actually think my SXL 2.0T looks sharper & more attractive than the base model Stinger! The Stinger 4 trim is kinda bland compared to the GT2. Maybe I'm expecting to much but I hope KIA realizes the potential appeal of the 4 cyl Stinger ...with the better gas mileage & more-than-adequate horse-power to the average buyer ... if they would offer a jazz-d up exterior for the "Premium" 4 ...and make it a bit closer in looks to the GT models!

[@mAUoalajkso]

For Stinger, two dual exhaust tips and a hatch are pretty nice features to have. Do you still own your Optima today?

[@AtulGupta-xz9tx]

Would get the V6 hands down. Family of 4. Now we just need KIA to put in the 360 camera, wireless charging, and alcantera headliner in the US model with a red on red GT2 and Ill be all over it. Until then, sticking with what Ive got.

[@ChosenMJ]

With the 2.0T it can get a moderate E85 tune and exhaust and be running right with the V6 TT. I got a CONSERVATIVE E85 tune, downpipe and CAI for my stock 250hp/260tq Buick Verano 2.0T and now it's trapping 110+mph in the quarter which would bitch slap a GT, M2 and a pre 2018 RS3 for a measly $1100. Been running this config for just over two years now with zero problems in fact it runs much better and smoother than stock. Don't underestimate the power of a 2.0T. With little money you could extract a ton of power from it with even better reliability at least with my car you can. You should with this one as well.

[@djscarletti]

I would definitely get the base gt. The power to me is more important than the tech when it comes to driving enjoyment. I live in Florida and drive about 40,000 miles a year in my car and have a wife and 2 kids. Current vehicle is a 18 Kia Sportage SX

[@randomadvice2487]

I’ve had the 4 cylinder for about 2 months and I love but they need to move the gas door release. I have to master not hitting it with my right knee getting in. I’m 6’. At 27,900 I knew exactly what I wasn’t buying. It was a CPO by the way...

[@MotoManTV]

WOW! CPO already . . . Well bought, sir!

[@koolkitties8552]

Wow good deal. You can barely get an Optima for that much

[@Sh4un1r1k]

CPO? What does it stand for? Sorry.

[@KBzPTGT]

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