Should you be EMBARRASSED to spend $49,000 on a Kia Stinger GT?

The 2018 Kia Stinger GT has some very compelling features. AND some very impressive performance. But still, some people seem to be afraid of the badge. This week I find out if the Stinger is worth it's (quite reasonable) Price Tag.
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[@ThrottleHouse]

Hope everyone enjoyed the video! Let me know if you would own the Stinger below! Also a note: I said 7 speed transmission and it’s an 8 speed... who gave me a job doing this anyway...

[@paulandrebeccak5680]

Very good review and take on the Stinger. We got one (a GT2 in the US in that awesome red) a few months ago and love it! We took it on a 1,500 mile road trip and it's an amazing GT car, so comfortable and got 3 MPG over the highway estimate surprisingly. We've owned BMW, Porsche and Audi and the Stinger holds it's own. We just got a free set of Harman Kardon wireless headphones today from Kia for being one of the first to own the car. Thanks Kia!

[@IsolestiK]

Got a chroma red gt limited. Do i regret? Nope this is the best car i have ever owned. Well then again my previous cars were cadillac srx and genesis coupe. Sorry to disappoint kia haters but i am not embarassed :)

[@nymarine215]

Throttle House I own a black stinger and I love it. I wouldn't have it any other way. I owned a Kia optima and a Lexus 250. I must say, I'll buy the stinger 10 times over.

[@GoofieNewfie]

G70 review? Where is it?

[@ThrottleHouse]

I have reviewed it yes. Look back about 5 videos.

[@NDakovic]

I've seen this car in black in real life. It's mighty, menesing. Real low, real wide, real sharp lights, superb design. Way more impression than you get from these videos.

[@boxingvortex4364]

It's time to stop saying "is like", "feels like" ect... the badge on the car doesn't matter, if it drives good, feels good and looks good then that's just what it is A GOOD CAR!!!

[@dezzahayes6492]

Boxing Vortex except for Kia

[@RipPhillips]

He's trying to give comparisons to known brands and cars people relate with already.

[@kyh6767]

@@dezzahayes6492 troll

[@maxlw191]

totally agree with you. "is like", "feels like" ect means nothing.

[@samandrew5643]

💯💯💯

[@ripgabbar]

As a stinger owner, no. You shouldn't be embarrassed. Man this car gets more attention than any car in its price range. Regular people will come up to you asking what car it is, being shocked to hear its a Kia. I love this car so much.

[@alexzhou7]

Akshay Patel pull up in an 06 bmw m3 and ur kia won’t get shit

[@Escape_Raz]

@@alexzhou7 Only way you'll pull up on that 06 M3 is on the top of a tow truck.. same as your shitty mustang in your photo... 😂

[@austensmith6857]

@@alexzhou7 u got rekt

[@bombardierrecreationalprod1023]

The real question is should you be embarrased to spend 100k on a Dodge 🤔!!!!

[@kzayas6940]

Bry Guy my thoughts exactly.

[@jaredshelton4718]

Yes

[@Pharoh_95]

Bry Guy not if it's a viper

[@jaredshelton4718]

@@Pharoh_95 Still will buy a Stinger over a crappy Viper, idc what kind of performance it has, it's still a Dodge.

[@Pharoh_95]

Jared Shelton ok bro whatever makes you happy I guess 😂🤷‍♂️

[@theRealAV8r]

Only one thing changes perceptions, and that's evidence. Not marketing, not hype, but constant, repeatable clearly visible real world evidence. The Stinger is proving itself, just needs time on the market.

[@jayvee5886]

I disagree. Look at Cadillac with their ATS-V and CTS-V. Poor sales volume yet excellent cars. Brand image is extremely difficult to shake off.

[@georgedeker]

That's a really smart and a strong point. I believe Kia will become like Infiniti in a few years because of what you said. The question is, will they create a sub-brand name like Nissan did with Infiniti or just leave it with Kia.

[@gregblack8550]

Kia is not going to shake it. Not a49 k anyway. A friend got 12 k off the loaded one and so can you.Dont pay anywhere near the Msrp. You can get 7k off the 4cyl.

[@Zam1Fear]

I test drove one today... this car is an absolute beast. I don't own one, but I would pick this any day over all other cars i can think of in the same price range including luxury vehicles in the used market.

[@jeffjeff8562]

2 years ago Kia wasn't even a thought. Last year even. Then I decided about 5 months ago to test drive the GT. After that, I didn't care at all that it was a Kia. The car was nice in every way. That's how I judged it. How it looked, drove and felt. It is a great car and I got one.

[@jimlittle5769]

Fully loaded 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD (designed by former Audi TT designer Peter Scheyer and engineered by Albert Biermann, former VP of BMW M) with 365 HP has an MSRP of 52K . In September, I got mine for 44K. The Audi A7 STARTS at 68K, 340 HP. BMW STARTS at over 70K at 335 HP. Porshe Panamera starts at 85K with 330 HP. Mercedes CLS starts at 69K with 369 HP. And the Kia has a 10 year, 100K mile power train warranty and 5 year 60K mile bumber to bumper. None of the others are close in warranty. And Kias are actually reliable (which is why they offer such warranties). So, pay for the badge (more likely lease), I paid for the car.

[@jimlittle5769]

clarification, the BMW price I referenced was for a BMW 6 Series Hatchback

[@Dirtyboxer1]

@@Brian-hw9vl well, those cars you mentioned are in a different class. I really like the new Supra, and I wouldn't mind owning both. The Stinger is a good value for its class. Jim's got a point about the warranty too. German cars are wonderful when they're working, but appallingly expensive to repair and maintain.

[@surfside75]

Cool story bro😂 thanks.

[@flyinghigh2178]

Hahaha! Nice comparison. Stinger GT is a BEAST!!!!

[@wwbcwp]

I'm not quire sure a 6 series hatchback is really in the Kia's class, it's probably closer to a 3 series GT or the 4 series sedan? Regardless, at $70k, I'd take an M3 over a Stinger GT2 because in my obituary, "died in his M3" reads better than "died in his Kia". That being said, BMW's warranty is short compared to most other companies, and the only reason I bought one is because I love how it drives. I preferred it to everything else I test drove (I test drove the whole class, and while Audi was solid it looks too much like a bar of soap). The AWD of the Kia isn't something to overlook, and as a daily driver the reliability and notable comfort/feature gain of the Kia vs the slight tradeoff in performance is a no-brainer. To be honest, I'd rather just do a barebones BMW and buy a second car for features and comfort (maybe I grab a nicely accessorized Stinger lolol). I've since learned (despite everyone's warning) that features in a BMW are simply problems waiting to happen later on down the road. In terms of reliability: I got a new turbo in my BMW at 40k, new transmission at 70k and had to do timing chain assembly replacement at 75k - all under warranty, but just barely. The turbo and transmission alone would have cost half the car. Everyone's response is: you probably get in and floor it in the winter, or, you probably don't change the oil enough etc. No, I take insanely good care of my car and I don't even think about pushing it until its loosened up. I don't just wait for the oil temp to get up, I wait until it feels ready and the engine is warmed up. I'm at 90k miles now and looking at replacements; as much as I've become a BMW fanboy it's nice to know there are respectable options out there which aren't plagued by untenable tradeoffs. I'll certainly look at the Kia and the G70, though I get the feeling I'll probably just get an M2 and something else to daily drive or take on my constant trips between NJ and NH. Right now I'm leaning towards getting another Prius and slapping an M badge on the back.

[@jimlittle5769]

Great Car! Bought the GT2 AWD (top of the line) in late September and I absolutely love it! It checks off everything I look for in a car: It's gorgeous, it's fast, it has AWD, it's a true GT, it has 4 doors with good room in front and back, it's a hatchback providing really good cargo space, and it has all the bells and whistles for safety as well as comfort. And I got it for 45K out the door.

[@Transit_my-way]

I saw this car in person a couple days ago and I was completely caught off guard by the build quality of this car. I was indeed in a coma when it came to Kia. Wow! I am thoroughly impressed.

[@JSH-do5qf]

I definitely agree with his comment on the comfort seat. I had a test drive Stinger for short distance, I felt the seating position and the seat so comfortable. could be the best choice for long distant drivers.

[@DJMontePGH]

Looking back at this, I first started watching your videos last year. When did James start making videos with you? You guys are the best duo on KZbin. Can't wait until you guys can get back out on the roads again.

[@damienpol5215]

The Stinger leans more towards comfort but if you want it to lean more towards performance, a rear anti-roll bar makes a considerable difference.

[@kelleymiller1464]

LOVE MINE! Not only is it beautiful and a blast to drive, we recently took a road trip with 5 full size adults and were pretty comfortable.

[@SouthParkStudio]

You make the best reviews. I’m not one to review reviews. You’re very straightforward and detailed! No annoying jokes tacky music over explaining etc. thanks! I’m getting one of these, you sold it!

[@casualsuede]

I would be embarrassed if I spent $49,000 on a crossover 7 seat SUV.

[@bidzej86]

I've just watched this in 2024. Oh my, how this channel has changed 😁

[@rpmautoreviews9249]

As an owner of one, I'll add a few details.. the lane keep assist is one of the best out there, but if you do hardly move the steering wheel yourself for a while, it'll think you're not touching it and turn off untl it senses you've taken control of the wheel.. which is dumb, cause if you had a heart attack, it should keep doing that forever... but it doesn't, even though I shut that off... adaptive cruise, even on the closest distanc settings, backs off too early for my liking.. should be min. .6 -1 sec. closer in driving times., but it does work well in closer traffic and it does bring you to a full stop and go again when traffic moves... oh lane keep assist does beep and push you back in the lane.. I like that. where some only beep or not beep but push you back.. not allowing both at the same time..... info screen is very good and touch features are good quality and work well.. unlike Subaru's shitty touch screen. Great Review !! I agree with all that you said. It really really really is an awesome vehicle and competes with All Fancy brands up to $80K... and beats many of them, to boot !! badge snobs, don't believe me or Thomas ? Go test drive one. oh, on an 180 off ramp near me, I can take it and end up at 94kph before braking.. enter it around low 80's and accell. a bit thru the turn (in 3rd gear revving strong) and pull up to low to mid 90's kph.. in sport mode of course... and it does over steer a bit, so I keep taking same turn so I can learn it and do it smoother... and managed mid 80's with winter tires... That's Handling a curve baby !! Ps.. agree with the bit of a bump thing in a curve... but doesn't loose it. just a bit bumpy shift but still stays hunkered and grips

[@TheeneF]

I have a Canadian AWD GT Limited and with the Eibach sway and spring kit that car is an incredible driving and cornering machine. With a correct alignment spec for the lowered version, it's unstoppable around corners. My only complaint is the lack of refinement in the interior and you really can't feel much of a difference when changing the suspension settings from sport to comfort. Otherwise, this car leaves me with a smile every single time I drive it.

[@jordythebassist]

I haven't had a chance to go for a drive in one, but I see them on the road all the time here in Australia and they look bloody awesome. It's not quite the car I need for my family at the moment but one day it might be something we will look at buying.

[@RobertStarkDentist]

Have had my GT2 since early Spring. Very happy with it. The only thing I wish was that I had a different color. Long story, but that is my own fault. Nice video.

[@surfside75]

What color did you end up with bro?. I like the white but the rear side reflectors bug me so I'd probably go with the red to try and hide them✔️

[@andrewcook2413]

As a owner of a GT1 i'd say this was pretty spot on. well done

[@andrewrae50]

8 spd not 7....

[@signfang]

and it's twin-twinscroll turbo, not just a single twinscorll turbo.

[@ThrottleHouse]

Huh? I didn’t say there was one. At about 2:08 I say “thanks to THOSE twin scroll turbochargers...”. Did I say one turbo somewhere else in the video? I mean it’s possible... I DID say it has the wrong number of gears so clearly I’m a nincompoop.

[@signfang]

Well I'm an idiot, sorry for that, English is not my first language. I enjoy your videos very much!

[@rowanlucas9412]

If u have the chance to buy one of these I would 100% recommend it. It's a nice car in both performance and aesthetics. My friend replaced the Kia badges with other badges so it didn't look like a Kia

[@drsnowmon]

This video just reminded me that I spent $38k on a Miata.... Worst decision I've ever made.... Good thing it was only $38 though....

[@BigChungusthe3rd]

I was wondering who buys those brand new Miatas haha

[@surfside75]

Could you Tell us a little more on what bugs you the most about it.. is it a automatic? Year?

[@geraldf4193]

i love my AWD stinger gt2.....it feels faster than they say it is ....it really pulls hard when you push the pedal.... very impressive

[@user-rm7ve7du5e]

Most underrated car ever

[@robertrishel3685]

Why can’t anyone else get enthusiast oriented car reviews right? You guys nail it EVERY time! No one does it as well as you guys and you’re intelligently humorous and clever as well. I will never consider another car again until I see a review from Throttle House, no kidding. As far as the Korean car question goes; I remember when Japanese cars came to the States and met a similar initial resistance. They have learned the game well and it’s to our benefit that genuinely good enthusiast cars are coming at great prices. I say, Bravo 👏 Korea! Bravo👏👏👍

[@runerifter]

I own a Kia Forte GT Line, and I must say, it’s a REALLY solid car. I’d give it a 9/10. Near perfect score. The only thing I can complain about is the power being a TINY bit underwhelming. But overall, great car!

[@nezarbenomar2058]

I also have a 2020 kia forte5 gt limited and guess what I'm trading it for a 2017 240i sorry man the German cars are unbeatable

[@runerifter]

@@nezarbenomar2058 Aaaand why should I care what car you get?

[@nezarbenomar2058]

@@runerifter are you jealous 😂

[@runerifter]

@@nezarbenomar2058 Why would I be jealous over a bottom-of-the-barrel BMW? You car-enthusiast wannabe kids are somethin else smh. 🙄

[@nezarbenomar2058]

@@runerifter don't be mad we are here only to share opinions and thoughts otherwise what is the purpose of commenting a youtube video

[@allreadynotinuse4169]

The changed the warranty I picked one up 168 miles on her Gt for 29k with 150k 10 year warranty fun little car mine just a little 4 cylinder with the twins . It is also very Comfortable

[@cookiebiscoe3170]

After my Benz lease ended I leased a 2019 Stinger GT2, RWD, Pearl white with red leather interior. A beautiful car for a Girl 😛

[@alexzhou7]

Cookie Biscoe id stick with Benz

[@cookiebiscoe3170]

b No regrets. I love this car.

[@TheGamingAudiophile]

Cookie Biscoe how much is your monthly price and much was due at signing?

[@TheGamingAudiophile]

Cookie Biscoe So you drove off with $0 due at signing and $580 monthly with taxes and fees rolled in?

[@cookiebiscoe3170]

TheGamingAudiophile Yes. The MSRP was 52,000. I was able to get $10,00 off with rebates, and negotiating. I also had a 700 plus credit score.

[@toxin7883]

Glasses, no James… I feel like I just traveled through time

[@stockey]

Best car for the price.

[@hiramrosajr8231]

Red sport

[@normt5463]

Bob Goudreau Too many creaky noises around the door frame and sunroof.

[@jaredshelton4718]

@@hiramrosajr8231 infiniti sucks

[@friedrice2307]

@@normt5463 thats not even true. I have a stinger gt and 0 creeks and noises. Stop spreading lies

[@fuckhead4204]

Norm T Not sure about the door frame and sunroof, but one of the big issues of the Stinger was the hatch rattling, which you can get fixed up for free at a dealer.

[@jamessaliba5129]

I live in Australia and I would by one in a heart beat. People need to not worry about the badge but look at its attributes. Hey this is a brand new car with great achievements already, Its actually quite scary to think 5 years down the track what the speed of this new hero car will produce. Well done Kia.

[@syd_jzx100]

Please be 500hp and have a variable exhaust by 2023...

[@bleachx1]

Only 49k Canadian.... That's a steal!!! Compared to current USD dealer prices in the U.S.

[@Lee-jn8zu]

Worth the money, i love mine. Only spent 34k on it, bought it used with 8k miles. Tt awd model

[@jjl1790]

Market reacts faster than people's mind. Some people bragged about buying this thing when the price cutting half but I don't think it's happening anytime soon.

[@brandonyu9602]

It would be nice if they got rid of that red reflector on the side

[@guycd1]

Just purchased a 2018 stinger GT2 and the only person that's been embarrassed is my dad because his corvette got outrun.

[@ballathug8404]

Well when I smoke bmw 335i's on the road they can think what they want

[@GaryDownes]

Ha, in your dreams mate. I've raced these Stingers in my 335i and they've all eaten my dust! Hope to see you on the road so I can put your shitty KIA in its place. My rear view mirror

[@friedrice2307]

@@GaryDownes lololol is your bmw stock or did you do some work? If its stock i will take your offer. Lol ridiculous statement. Your 335 cant even beat a is350.

[@davidilijevski8942]

@@GaryDownes not another BMW bullshitter

[@ballathug8404]

@@GaryDownes you probabaly "raced" the 4cyl version. Nothing to brag about, mate.

[@St1ngerGuy]

I'm waiting for when I can race a BMW because my Stinger IS modded and it will destroy. Plus I wont have to take it to a shop to have it fixed after.

[@digmacdiggydoo]

I got a blue GT back in Feb, 2018. Love the car. It's a lease, coming up soon. May not keep. Still, I love the car.

[@GigaChadL337]

If this question even comes up to your mind: Should you be EMBARRASSED to spend $49,000 on a Kia Stinger GT? Then you should not buy it.

[@ThomasHoffDE]

I actually love this car when I see it on the road. Great looking and I am sure fun to drive. I agree with the point on the brand - I wld hesitate to get Kia. They should consider a luxury brand like Genesis / Hyundai. If I needed to be more practical (which I don't right now) I would seriously consider this. I also wish they would make a coupe

[@antoniowashington1428]

its funny because, i sell these and people are like "kia" isnt sporty or luxury. i respond what makes a car luxury premium leather, wood, a powerful engine, nice touches bc damn near every make and model has those options? if thats the case a 1996 impala is a luxury car. The stinger is an awesome car. The taurus sho still stickers for $47k+ the stinger 2.0 stickers for about $32 and the gt stickers for around 39k+

[@user-gm4kv2my4u]

Its wierd that people hate this car just because of the badge. Particularly when they're fans of brands like Honda that once upon a time were considered bargain bin shit boxes themselves. Persoanlly, I think its been pretty interesting watching the Korean twins evolve into respectable brands and Hyundai even creating its own luxury brand. Compare that to Nissan that used to be good but have now largely become shit boxes minus the bargain bin pricing.

[@Pube83]

October 2019, you can get a used Stinger GT w/8-15k miles for $27-32k all day, everyday now. The shitty 4 bangers are down to $20k.

[@kenny4128]

Totally understand what your talking about with not feeling planted on turns with rough roads, there is a right turn that I make onto a busy road that has some uneven pavement with about a 1" drop off and no matter how fast or slow I take the turn the car does not like it and has a very odd feeling. Not like its out of control or scary its just a feeling of disconnection from the road that I wish wasn't there. Feel like either the suspension needs some refining or the traction control wasn't so aggressive. Ultimately I love this care I bought it to replace my Hyundai Sonata 2.0t sport limited and its better in every way. I was shopping this car against the Mustang GT, the Audi S4, and the Charger 392, the Kia just felt like a better every day driver and offered more features for the money and don't regret my purchase at all, I got it in ceramic grey with the red interior and it get looks from everyone and people always ask what kind of car it is and are amazed that its a Kia.

[@TBIRD0625]

My only suggestion would be for KIA to have a sports performance brand so that it isn't technically called a KIA , it's a shitty name that doesn't sound like it has any performance character or class. I wouldn't feel embarrassed about spending that kind of money on this car, I would just feel bad every time I had to call it a KIA.

[@carlosenriquez2092]

I cant afford one but a friend of mine took for spin in his. Show off that he is, i have to say that the punch it delivers is impressive it was very exiting to feel the throttle

[@the-boring-car-guy]

I love you Tom but I'm so glad James joined you. Not that there's anything wrong, it's just there was something missing. As informative as this was, me being a KZbin dumdum needs a bit more stimulation, the new vids with the humour helps with that lot. Still nice vid

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

Just think what you could actually get for 50k!!!!

[@TheChugnut]

Thomas exchanged his glasses for a James.

[@kiamike163]

I got my 2020 GT1 INDIGO BLUE 1 OF 500 with Drift-mode for 37500 new 0 miles out the door 41k at 5% interest which at that time my credit was rough at 642.. my payments are 723 and my full coverage insurance is 125 bucks... I got a 4400 dollar rebate at purchase with that deal.. Zero down I paid no money at all down🙂

[@marshallwilliams6405]

I would say so. Since a lot of dealers are offering incentives, it would be silly to pay full price lol. I’ve seen a lot around the 40-45k range. The stingers are just not selling as well as Kia hoped.

[@stephenisaaks1]

Plenty of people are paying $50+ for the Stinger GT (1&2), you just gotta know how to bring it down. I myself paid $45,350 OTD for my Stinger GT1 AWD, whereas with sticker + the options I threw in should have been $53k OTD. Most dealers know you can ask to see the invoice cost and offer that for the car and they will agree, then you haggle from there. But most car buyers aren't aware of the invoice trick so they never know to ask, they usually assume you have to pay MSRP. You don't. Those of us who are getting our Stinger GT's for $45k know what to ask, whereas there are plenty of people who don't know and happily pay $50+ for the Stinger.

[@johnhunt9674]

We paid 45k for ours brand new. Plenty of people are buying the loaded stinger gt.

[@GoofieNewfie]

Never pay MSRP... never

[@kelleymiller1464]

Got my GT1 for less than $40k :)

[@t.k.morris]

VR43000..... I disagree with your opinion and comment. Dealerships cheat people most of the time or when they can. If you don't like the hours and the customers then change jobs. If dealerships wanted to be fair and treated with respect and kindness then they would put a fair sales price on all cars and just not negotiate period! Does Chick-Fil-A negotiate the price of their food? Or any other restaurant? .... I do agree if you came into my business, whatever it might be and asked to see my invoice, I would just say NO. Then I might ask, Can I see your checkbook and savings accounts? Yes, I think that is rude and crude but the Dealerships started this war with their unfair practices. Do you think it is fair to sell the same car to 6 different people for 6 different prices? In the same day with the same circumstance in all the deals? I worked at a Chevy dealership for a while and was a service writer. They even treated people differently with warranty claims because they could get by with it more often than not! .... And there does or did exist at least one dealership in South Georgia that sales cars with the one price take it or leave it. I have bought two cars from them myself and known several other people to buy from them They only sold GM and Ford back then but I am not positive they are still open. I wanted to buy another GM product from them back in 1996 but the Chev model I ordered came in twice with defects from the factory and I have not bought any GM model since. I refused the two cars and didn't even want them to make the repairs to correct the problems. I felt like if a new car shows up to the customer and has visual and mechanical problems, what is everything else going to be like with the car down the road?

[@DuncanEduardo]

If you want drift capability then go for the RWD. Better than AWD in many ways. More of a real drivers car. Reckon its an quick to 60 due to less weight.

[@sarmenjanvartan]

Everyone who sees me that ask why I drive a stinger ( Kia ) . I’m like come on , that gives me a good feeling when I push the gas pedal and I’m completely satisfied . My recommend for Kia is working on handling and it will get top of any cars in its class .

[@airgunningyup]

people spend 65 on pickups every day and never use it for hauling materials... The average new car price is now 36k.49k is really not much in the new car market.not to mention the awd and 4 doors for family.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

I like it. Maybe more than Genesis as a car in the sense it is larger. The Genesis has a tight back seat in terms of leg room while this car has compromised head room. The interior of this car is nice, especially in red trim which you don't have in your test Stinger. And it is just much more stylish. To most people, the G70 looks like a 4 door sedan with a big grill up front. But this one makes a visual statement. Since it rides as well and is pretty quiet, do you want the handling prowess of the G70 vs. the Stinger? It depends on that question. In time, I hope Genesis has a more upscale dealership. That will elevate Genesis over Kia even if some dealers treat Stinger owners well.

[@AcuraPerformance]

I'd definitely wait after 3-4 years when it depreciates. I would never buy a brand new car ever again. I picked up a 10' TL Sh-awd 6 spd. Manual 3 years ago with 67,000km. for $22k and haven't done any maintenance work besides oil change. That being said I only paid way less than half the full price of this car as oppose to putting all 50k in one vehicle. I've always been loyal to the Honda brand but I'm definitely eyeing this GT-AWD in the future.

[@kroneyt1493]

I really... REALLY don't like that people assume a car like the Stinger is bad because "Well... it's a Kia!" or that a car like the Q3 is good because "Well... it's an Audi!". People need to start looking at cars more objectively and ignore brand names. If you have $49k to spend and the Kia Stinger is the car you like, then buy it.

[@rockefelleragent1357]

Bro you need to test the RWD version with less optioned Genesis G70 it weighs 500 lbs less than the AWD Stinger. It performs virtually equal if not faster than a BMW M4 at the road course circuit. Find a RWD stripped down version of G70 and put your race driver for some lap time and compare against a '18 Stang GT 5.0 10 spd auto you will be surprised.

[@legostarwarsrulez]

IneedMoney or a less optioned rwd stinger.

[@hiroanz]

We don’t get the RWD GT in Canada..

[@MidnightAspec]

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[@normt5463]

IneedMoney it who is going to be happy paying $50,000 on car that makes creaky noises and sunroof?

[@GaryDownes]

I'd take the G70 over the Stinger any day

[@RCGJR_]

The white is definitely under my radar, but the turbo charge is throwing me off, due to the maintenance of the vehicle.

[@bad001bd]

360p club!

[@PhyteByte]

That Off white one looks sick as fuck seen one at the grocery store this morning

[@xiondFirst]

I test drove this the other day. Build quality on the inside isn't very good.

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

the rwd stinger is faster

[@Kuronekaux]

yea. That AWD system makes it heavier.

[@matty1053]

Couple reviews of the RWD stinger are great. Apperently they tested it in snow and it performed exceptionally well with the standard tires Kia puts on.

[@ge-8135]

Ebrake launch awd is the fastest. 4.29.😳

[@klarik01]

5:50 in this video happens so often when you're driving a Stinger. It just puts on speed.

[@colin6898]

The answer is, yes 😂

[@johnvega2528]

I’ve driven a stinger few times it’s damn quick !!!!

[@dontcare563]

Only the brand snobs would be embarrassed. Brands that come to mind are MB, BMW, Audi. I try and buy the best car for the money.

[@KVNH]

I drove this car and was extremely disappointed. First of all, the turbo lag is pronounced and easily noticeable. Secondly, the handling is horrible at best. The car feels heavy and significantly unbalanced at the limit. The infotainment system is light years behind the best (think latest Mercedes Benz, Tesla, Audi, etc). The interior quality feels cheap. Lastly, this is the worst 365 HP “performance” sedan that I’ve ever driven. Once a KIA, always a KIA. Economy car at best.

[@TacoEqualsFtw]

"This week I find out if the Stinger is worth it's (quite reasonable) Price Tag." = "This week I find out if the Stinger is worth it is (quite reasonable) Price Tag."

[@timconway7860]

Grammar matters!

[@throwaway177]

You guys should review the 2018 Fusion Sport.

[@stockey]

Ford will stop making cars.

[@Serjical23]

Why review a discontinued model/brand?

[@throwaway177]

They just released a 2019, and have 2020 in the works as well. They also said they will keep the Fusions in the future line-ups, but will change it up.

[@jimlittle5769]

@@throwaway177 they are discontinuing the Fusion. It's easy to look up. The only cars they are keeping is Mustang and Focus hatch.

[@jeremypike9153]

When Kia's build quality and materials reach the $49,000 price I'll consider it. How many 2.0 and 2.4 Kia engines have I changed for customers at 100,000 miles probably 20 in 2 years.

[@Adam-om9hu]

With a 100k or 7 year warranty, I think it is fine.

[@gyuck]

For 50k I'd rather buy a used Audi A7, Porsche Panamera, or Mercedes CLS and have a proper luxury sport sedan

[@collinmarshallbeach344]

Michael Dooby and three times the amount of money spent on future maintenance

[@gyuck]

J. Danny if you have enough money to afford a 50k car, then you should also be fiscally responsible enough to afford 1-2k in annual maintenance

[@Hallowedpoint85]

I'd be embarrassed, for that money you have a way bigger option of better cars with more luxury and waaay more horsepower if this car was priced at say 30k it would be perfect but if you can afford a 50k vehicle you wouldn't waste that on this car

[@OnfireProjects]

like what options? in germany you certainly don't

[@Andy-Andeee]

I really want a Stinger GT BUT ! I'm also looking forward to what Mazda is going to throw their new inline 6 cylinder engine into a RWD platform in about 2 years. Think Mazda Vision Coupe (New RWD Mazda 6 ?)

[@jordanholm9640]

For 49,000 there is a much better and broader selection of vehicles that out rank this.

[@Iron883Man]

Why didn't you succeed in giving one example then?

[@Iron883Man]

Zephyr So which interior exactly did KIA copy? Their infotainment system was ranked 3rd best in Europe btw. After BMW and Audi. Not that it matters. Infotainment systems have become redundant since Android Auto / Apple CarPlay is the new benchmark. Both are standard on the Stinger.

[@Iron883Man]

@Zephyr The stinger is a gt, not a muscle car. I'll gladly take it over any car with 'American quality'. If I wanted that I could buy the cheaper Stinger and place a few rattlers on random places in the interior.

[@Iron883Man]

And lmao at the mercedes resemblance. I drive a C350e for work. The Stinger isn't even close to looking the same. If using circles is copying for you, your standards are low or your just a closeted racist that can't see past the fact every car nowadays looks like some other car if you want it to. In the end it caracteristicaly looks like a KIA and you can recognise it from a mile away.

[@Iron883Man]

@Zephyr The interior of a C63 looks exactly the same as any other C class. It only gets more carbon inlays.

[@iheartgs400]

Personally I’m waiting to see how this car holds out long term. This will surely be a used car best buy years down the road as a previous G35/TSX/GS430 .

[@gester27]

Same. I wonder how it will had up after time. Kia has had some short comings with electrical wiring in their vehicles alongside engine issues. I wonder if may of them have rubbed off j to their premium priced vehicles.

[@iheartgs400]

MackyG its closest competitor spec for spec wise is the Infiniti Q50 despite the ancient 7 Speed AT of the car its motor is solid and proven a de-stroked GTR in a sense.

[@mike9588]

You do get a mechanical LSD on the RWD stinger

[@hiramrosajr8231]

Nope over hyped like Civic type r without the numbers the type r puts down. Ugly looking to me although it's my opinion. The interior is a BMW/Mercedes knock off. 50,000 for this no. I'll take a redsport 400 new or used, or a used audi rs7

[@HybRiDThEoRy619]

I had a 15 Q50S and was very much interested in the RedSport. I went with the Stinger for a few reasons. 1. The sensors on the RS limit the amount of power you'll ever be able to get out of it. Better off getting the non-RS as it's able to be tuned way beyond the RS. 2. No upgrade to the infotainment - NONE - No apple car play or android auto and the Bose system is dated. 3. The Stinger has more room - bigger back seat - more cargo space 4. The suspension is too stiff - The Stinger GT is exactly that, a GT - very comfortable 5. Better warranty 6. More stylish (This is my OPINION) 7. KIA actually worked with me on the price - Got the GT1 for about $40k - Infiniti would not budge on over $50k for the RS Those were my deciding factors - Oh, and stock vs stock, the Stinger is barely edged by the RS from 0-60 - barely

[@homeremote8311]

you know almost nothing about cars my friend. Yes the civic is shit.

[@hiramrosajr8231]

@@homeremote8311 I know it's shit lol we agree

[@hiramrosajr8231]

@@bronzewaffle2310 how? I didn't say new. With depreciation even tho it's still expensive I think you get alot more for your money

[@hiramrosajr8231]

@@HybRiDThEoRy619 I actually agree with you on the sensor. Also the warranty , well because it's a Kia it's there selling point. As well as looks it's subjective and to me it the stinger is ugly as fuck and the q50 is sexy. Price wise I think the dealer pricing is better where I'm at for the q50. I'm not saying the I hate the Kia, I'm saying for the price I won't touch a unproven car. 35k to 40k is the sweet spot for these new not 56k. These will depreciate like all Kia's and be picked up at more attractive price, 25k in about 3 years or 4

[@ASTActionCam]

Love your channel man. Great review.

[@t.k.morris]

Does it require premium grade gas?

[@AlainHubert]

No. Only recommended Premium. But I highly recommend using it. Otherwise, my Stinger doesn't have as much power, and fuel economy also suffers quite a bit. So the little money saved on regular gas isn't worth it.

[@adanvera2905]

I'm going to modify it to look more aggressive but still have the family friendly car

[@vince7349]

Practicality wise I think the stinger beats the g70 mainly the hatch Also I prefer the look of the stinger If you remove kia from rear and replace it with maserati it would not look out of place. However I Hear this car has a start stop engine tech I hope you can turn that off

[@thisisnotmyname4700]

The police here in Australia are using these cars as police highway patrol cars.... Kia make a great car!

[@matimba8415]

I love watching your videos, no swearing. Subscribed

[@djgoldthing7166]

I reckon the stinger is Kia's 205 GTI moment, and I hope they keep the stinger name and set up a side brand to rival the sportier brands like jaguar , Porsche, Maserati etc.

[@daveyenjan1387]

If that is 49k over here, I love to buy one. I'm more to a GT car. Unfortunately, it is 49x4=196, just the price conversion alone, there is import tax, sale tax, n etc. That is like 250k. 😀

[@redherring395]

Nothing wrong with the Kia, but the biggest questions are will it stand the test of time with automotive enthusiast's, how will the build quality of the car feel in 10 years and what will the resell value of the car be in 10 years? I can almost guarantee you that in 10 years a Mustang GT, BMW or Camaro will still have good build quality and the cars will still feel strong in the power delivery & handling departments. Then there's also the fact that those cars have a huge aftermarket industry supporting them and a rabid fan base. Thirty years from now you'll still be available to buy parts for those cars & have people looking to buy them. Can the same be said about the Kia?

[@AlainHubert]

Anyone who buys a Kia Stinger doesn't do it for the resale value. I did it for the enjoyment that it brings me to own and drive one, each time I get in. ;-)

[@DiHandley]

I couldn’t afford the Stinger so I bought a Kia Cerato GT. Wow! It really punches above its weight. If you buy your cars based on the badge, you’re really missing out. Watch out world because here comes Kia!

[@dw1508]

Kia should change their badge to a " K " the Kia Badge just looks and makes the car seem so cheap and nasty. Just like Hyundai has the H badge Kia needs a K badge. In my opinion. I drove a Kia Cerato for work for 2 years and think they have rock solid quality in their cars just the Badge and stereotype lets it down.

[@TheJoeeReflex]

they have other badges, one looks like Lexus

[@wombat7366]

@@TheJoeeReflex Kia’s Korean badge is a stylized “E”.

[@kendellgary8023]

I just got one it’s pretty cool car and easy to mod if that’s what your into

[@PaganWizard]

You said this car is a GT, is it a GT1 or a GT2? You said you can not get the RWD version in Canada, but you can, although it could be a paperwork nightmare, you can still do it, just buy your car in the USA. Personally I love the GT2, loaded, but there are some things I would really much rather do without, like the sun roof and the chrome side view mirrors (I think those chrome mirrors are UGLY AF). Give me the option of having the options I want and do not want, and I will become madly in love with the car.

[@r.r.hughes9808]

I wanted a Yellow one and then the paint quality was so shitty that they don't even make yellow anymore. So does that say anything about the quality about the rest of the car?

[@jimlittle5769]

in fairness, they didn't stop making yellow ones cause of the paint issues (which they fixed by repainting and gave the owner 5K for the inconvenience). Before they even knew about paint issues they said there would only be a limited amount in yellow and it would only be for the first year.

[@BlueToku]

As a stinger owner, i can assure you, buying it used is better then new, unless you got dough

[@gabrielcaramet3238]

In Europe we get a 2l disel if you dow a lot of milles

[@ELP1125]

I feel if Kia would just changed all there badges to "K badge" of Korean sold Kias. I feel more ppl would be inclined to buy them, without thinking "bUt iTs a Kia"

[@BamaScorpio69]

I agree Eric. I know so many people who have bought a Kia and simply ordered the South Korean badge to replace the KIA badge and it's sharp af!!! Kia is changing the badge either later this year or next and it looks much better......but the solid K is still the sharpest!

[@darthvader8433]

Can't wait to see one of these with a well integrated twin turbo LS3..