Lixada (Tower) Stove VS Lixada (Scout) Woodgas Stove

In this video I compare the Lixada "Tower" stove with the Lixada "Scout" woodgas stove
Lixada "Tower" stove
Height (assembled): 7.75" / 19.7cm
Height (collapsed): 4.25" / 10.8cm
Width: 4.5" / 11.5cm
Weight (stove only): 6.5oz / 184grams
Weight (full kit): 1lb 6oz / 624grams
Lixada "Scout" stove
Height (assembled): 7.25" / 18.4cm
Height (collapsed): 2.75" / 7cm
Width: 5.25" / 13.3cm
Weight (stove only) 14.0oz / 397grams
Weight (full kit) 1lb 11oz / 765grams

[@redcanoe14]

Hello Mark. Thank you for coming out with some thoughtful and helpful videos. I also believe the tall pot of water on the tower stove would take longer to boil as wider, shallower pots dissipate and circulate the water more quickly. Keep up the good work, WS

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

You are right on about the wider pot being quicker. Thanks for commenting

[@fioxfiox]

Thanks for converting the measures in cm and grams, I appreciated it very much

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

You are most welcome. Thank you for commenting

[@string-bag]

Excellent review/comparison, as always. I had been bouncing back and forth between getting the tower or the scout. Your video helped convince me that the scout would fulfill my needs better than the tower. Thanks Mark.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

The "scout" model is hard to beat and is a true wood gas stove. Just heavier than the "tower". Thanks for commenting

[@Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival]

As another commentor has already stated, I also believe that the wider pot with the lower water level gives the "Scout" an advantage in this video. Also if the pot on the "tower" stove was elevated by the additional pot stand and if the pots used on both stoves were comparable in dimensions, I believe that the boil times of the two stoves would be closer together. That might be fodder for an another interesting video if you were interested. Compare the speed of boil time in a wide bottom pot to the boil time of a taller narrower pot. That is something that I have personally not done so I am just guessing. I enjoy your videos of stove comparisons as well all your other subjects as well. Thumbs up as usuall.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Hi Lonnie. Based on comments from you and other viewers I am thinking I will re-do this test. I had hoped to compare the two stoves using them the way I would in the woods (except for the kiln dried hardwood) but in truth, I would have loaded the Tower stove more fully, taking advantage of the extra height the pot stand provides. The pots I used are what I carry the stoves in but I do see an advantage going to the MSR because of its wider, shorter design. In the re-test I will use different pots of similar design and volume. Another viewer suggests adding the cross bars to the top of the Tower stove may help. I don't believe they will but I will add them for the test. It is interesting to me how much interest there is in small stoves. As always, thank you for commenting

[@Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival]

Yes you are right on the pot supports on the tower stove not being an advantage . . . *if* a smaller diameter pot is used like the one you used in this video. *But* if you used a wider bottom pot then the pot supports would allow the stove flame to spread out across the full width of that wide pot bottom. Especially if you use taller wood in the tower stove, and use the additional pot support so those flames can spread across the wide bottom of a wider pot, I'm hypothesizing that you will get faster boil time on that stove. Again this is just a guess but seems correct to me. I'm in no way saying you did your test wrong. And in fact I think we can conclude from your test that the scout stove is perhaps the more efficient burner. We the viewers also got a good idea about how both stoves operate. I am however just throwing out some ideas and thoughts that may be interesting to think about. I guess ya could say I'm just thinking out loud. :o)

[@BingWatcher]

I think you covered the topic in great depth. And a very nice presentation. I have just one thing to add, in that the wood gas stove really shines when using wood fuel pellets. It's ease of use and efficiency with pellets is second to none. And not to forget about the cost of using it is even much more economical than even an alcohol stove or compressed gas stove. Thanks again!😀😀😀

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I agree, the wood gas stoves work very well with wood pellets. I have a few videos demonstrating their use. I will be showing the Tower stove with wood pellets probably this week. Thanks for commenting

[@martinpecheur8506]

I love the comparisons..fair evaluations..and also your little "tricks"..on how they can be maximized in their uses

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you are finding my video helpful. Thanks for commenting

[@Badger77722]

Thanks for another great video, Mark! Interesting results, for some reason I expected the Tower stove to do a little better, but the Scout clearly outperformed it. Nicely done!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed the video. I may re-do the test to give the Tower stove another chance, Thanks for commenting

[@HaJoSchatz]

I've got both stoves myself. For me, the tower stove is fantastic while the scout stove is barely useable (unless I carry my own wood into the woods; well...). Remember me? I'm the guy living next to the tropical forest of Taiwan where dry wood doesn't occur naturally 😜

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I do remember you. You have given me much to think about regarding the stoves. The tower stove does have some real advantages besides its lighter weight. Thanks for commenting

[@viewsandreviews180]

Thank you for posting this video. I’ve got both of these and have never done a comparison. The Scout (and MSR 1.1) is used when two are hiking and the tower when I’m by myself. I’ve been pleased with both although I’d noticed the Scout burns longer which is good for preparing twice the food and drink. I also believe the larger bottom of the MSR catches more of the flame from the fire which might help with heating water or whatever.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Great additional thoughts on the two stoves. I meant to mention (I did in another video) that the Scout stove will fit inside any 14cm pot including the Zebra, Solo 1800 Titan and Pathfinder Bushpot. Thanks for commenting

[@viewsandreviews180]

Mark Young I’m glad I could add something to your presentation. I always enjoy your content.

[@pedroclaro7822]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft thank you so much! I love the zebra billy for it's versatility and I am not so concerned about two hundred grams in a stove since I've kilos to shed anyways. The fact that it is more efficient, which i had guessed, plus that combo being as light as the other combo has me sold. I'll take the path less traveled by! (My favorite poem) A heartfelt thank you from Portugal

[@yongjianyi3556]

I have used the wood gas stove for years, works very well.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I agree totally. Thanks for commenting

[@mike_outdoors4918]

Thanks Mark for another fine comparison, gives me a lot to think about when I'm looking at buying a new stove. Take care Mark 👍🙂

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you found the video helpful Mike. Thanks for commenting

[@Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival]

I recently received the middle size Ghillie Kettle which is closely comparable to the middle size Kelly Kettle. I love that stove. The Ghillie Kettle "Hobo Stove" accessory was not available to me so I bought the Kelly Kettle "Hobo Stove" accessory to use on the Ghillie Kettle. The hobo stove accessory is not as efficient of a stand alone stove as many of the stoves you have in your videos or some that I have but the extreme efficiency of the Ghillie Kettle as a water boiler along with the versatility of the hobo stove sure makes this a fun setup to use. Since most of my backcountry trips are by boat or other mechanical conveyance, the weight and bulk is not a problem.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

The Ghillie looks like a great kettle. I have been testing out the the small Kelly Kettle Trekker with the hobo stove and will be making a video on it soon. They initially appear bulky but that is made up for in efficiency and the fact it can be used in the wind and rain

[@Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft I did see your video where you briefly showed the Trekker model Kelly Kettle. I'll be looking forward to seeing the upcoming video.

[@Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft I did see your previous video where you briefly showed using the Trekker model Kelly kettle. I'll be looking forward to seeing the upcoming video.

[@joshnagenmurugiah4531]

Very clear and detailed. Well done.👌

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for commenting

[@patriciaribaric3409]

I liked the design of the "scout" stove right off. The holes on the bottom sides are smaller than the "tower," and the bottom grate has smaller holes. I like that it's not as easily tipped over as the tower. As a mother and grandmother I am always multitasking with different foods for little ones, so the longer burn time is a major plus. The skinny "tower" would be a plus if using a spirit burner.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

The larger stove does have some advantages but costs a bit more and is more than twice the weight. I like them both but will likely carry the smaller stove more often. Thanks for commenting

[@string-bag]

Mark, With regard to the Lixada tower stove. I would keep the stuff bag but I would roll the bag down until the rim of the stove is exposed then fit the pot lid. This would protect the pot and make sure it doesn't rattle around. The best of both worlds. Cheers, Kevin

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Good suggestion. I removed it altogether and it fits much better with very little rattling. I clean the stoves after use so soot in the pot is not an issue. Thanks for commenting

[@brucematys6064]

Another great video Mark, it makes it easier for me to decide which type of stove I will buy next! Cheers!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

You won't go wrong with either stove. Thanks for commenting

[@nytram1309]

Excellent video as always Mark, thanks. I have both stoves and want to add that the scout stove is fantastic for boiling large quantities of water quickly, but the tower stove is better for cooking because it's possible to regulate the burn temperature by adding fuel, or not , on the go. If I want a raging fire I can have it, but if I want a lower heat that's possible too. So I feel I have more control over the tower stove. Shame it's so tall. Having said all that, I just love how the scout stove fits in the MSR 750 ml perfectly. I stop any rattle by wrapping the stove in a thin kitchen cloth. Final thought ... I prefer using the tower stove as a small temporary camp fire under a tarp. The scout stove resembles a large gas cooker flame that you have at home in the kitchen and doesn't 'feel' so natural ;)

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Good observations on the two stoves. I wish I had added them in my video. I agree the Tower stove is a bit tall but as long as I am careful it is not an issue. Thanks for commenting

[@alexandergutfeldt1144]

Another excellent comparison. Thank you!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for commenting

[@jacqueline7118]

As always, great vid and comparison Mark. Thanks for sharing.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed the video Jackie. Thanks for commenting

[@rhettoracle9679]

Short and wide equals more surface area, stability, and easier to stir food than tall and narrow. But more food will burn if unattended. Cheers

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Well stated additional considerations. Thanks for commenting

[@newbievloggerandphotograph2438]

My hobby seems to be veering towards unneeded areas. I have the Canway and it works great. I fry, boil and can even bake with it (though somewhat erratically). For winter cooking (single digit F), it has proven better than my alcohol and even my butane mix stoves. I think the stand is too low for at least the first part of the burn cycle. I think I will get the Lixada for comparison. Thanks for showing this. These stoves are quite reasonably priced and give great results. As was said earlier, wood pellets are an ideal way to get long burns for multiple cooking tasks. Thanks!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I agree with the versatility of this stove. I have a few videos using wood pellets in them. Thanks for commenting

[@newbievloggerandphotograph2438]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft OK. I ordered the Lixada Woodgas stove and it is almost like the Canway except the standoff is higher. I think that might work well in at least some cases. Both are good stoves, though. I ran wood through the Lixada for the first test and it seemed fine. I will try some pellets this weekend if we get good weather. Thanks for your video.

[@sirdee9607]

I have that Scout Type one and I use it with Wood-Pellets only, and it works so well. Nice Comparison. Kind Regards from Germany

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I agree. They work exceptionally well with wood pellets. Thanks for commenting

[@leomarx9014]

wood pallets? is it like the cat litter?

[@sirdee9607]

@@leomarx9014 I mean Wood pellets, sorry for my bad english

[@charlesfaulkner8653]

Another excellent video. Keep em coming.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you liked the video. Thanks for commenting

[@terryw.milburn8565]

Both Great Stoves, Keep 'Em Stoked & Bring On The Rampage, Coffee, Thanks, Mark ! ATB T God Bless

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Bring on the Rampage...right on Terry

[@markusludwig6023]

There is a new model of the lixada tower stove, it has 3 cm more diameter and is 2 cm shorter. You recognise it by having a double cross potholder on top (4 pieces like so: #). Please review that in comparison to your tower stove. It's a pleasure to watch your videos.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I would like to test this stove. I buy all the Lixada stoves I own so it may have to wait until I can justify the purchase. Thanks for commenting

[@scottmurphy4946]

After binge watching all these stoves I conclude that i prob want them all

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yup, that is pretty much what happened to me and the addiction continues. Thanks for commenting

[@grossartig3406]

Damn 4 years later i struggle with the same problems 😂 i got the scout already and just bought the tower one. After buying i searched for a comparison video and here i am - got served well. Thank you sir! I keep continue collecting stoves like you do! Greetings from Germany 🙋‍♂️

[@kellyjohnson3617]

I have both stoves and I must say I like the larger stove overall but the smaller one has a lot of benefits for straight boiling. But for car camping I bring at least two stoves anyway to cook multiple things simultaneously. And I use them at home yo cook outside when I don’t feel like heating up the house. I can use them to cook on my front porch. Otherwise I have to pull the gas grill out into the driveway which can be a pain in the neck when these are so efficient

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. Both stoves have their strengths. Having the two of them going gives you options. Thanks for commenting

[@kellyjohnson3617]

What I do is often to carry stove and pot. I sometimes wrap the stove in a handkerchief that has other uses like for lifting hot items or filtering or placemat to put items on that I don’t want to lay on the ground or on a dirty picnic table

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. I always have at least one bandanna on my. Come in handy for a pot grabber and a million other things. Thanks for commenting

[@philoso377]

Try to explain the difference. Faster for unrestricted flame and a wider pot (surface area) versus restricted flame and narrower pot (less surface) both in a low breeze day. This confirms my recent thought about the short guy Lixada is a more effective but heavier choice. Curious about exchange pot on them to better understand why was the difference. You call?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Your suggestion makes sense. I use the pots I carry the stoves in. Thanks for commenting

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

Good job.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks for commenting

[@northwind9505]

Mineral oil? Would like to see how you do this. Proper care? I did not know about this treatment. My "stainless" stove rusted through in months. Thanks.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I can do a video on stove care for sure. Thanks for commenting

[@northwind9505]

Thanks mark. Florida is not kind to metal.

[@haideelinafuang7824]

Thats great a scout wood stove its a fast cook.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, it works great. Thanks for commenting

[@knifco]

Very informative and well done. BTW can you provide a link to the Lixada Scout stove? Either it's been scrubbed from Aliexpress or I'm missing something. Thanks!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you found the video helpful. I don't see the exact same model as mine on Aliexpress but this one is very close www.aliexpress.com/item/32946571727.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.284853b9NESQv4&algo_pvid=0f043313-5067-48ed-a804-9f3e32c45934&algo_expid=0f043313-5067-48ed-a804-9f3e32c45934-31&btsid=1d41855f-f218-46aa-af88-eb0de1d68e28&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_7,searchweb201603_52

[@vagamundos5910]

I own both. The "scout" stove was my first wood stove. It burned great but the flames were too strong for cooking in my one litre pot (short and wide) and sometimes the food would boil over. Then I got the "tower" stove because it was lighter and burned great as well, not as strong as the scout but never had the problem of food boiling over, but then I was using a taller slimmer one liter pot. My biggest issue with the tower stove is the height of the top half. I think it's way too tall and unless the fire is in full burn the flames don't fully reach the bottom of the pot. Could it that be the reason why it took longer to boil the water?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I agree with your observations of the two stoves. Simmering over the Scout can be a challenge. The height of the Tower can make it a bit unstable if not careful. It may also loose a lot of heat out through the feed port as well as the distance from the fuel making it easier to simmer with. I find if I load the burn chamber up into the pot stand I can get a lot of initial heat for a quick boil the allow it to burn down for a simmer. Pot width and height can make a huge difference. I expect the MSR pot used in this test had an almost unfair advantage due to its dimensions. Thanks for commenting

[@mclostinthewoods]

Have you worked with the titanium version of the Lixada "tower" stove? Curious to see if experience is the same (only lighter)

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Not yet. On my wish list to buy soon.Thanks for commenting

[@mclostinthewoods]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft I appreciate your reviews. Very informative. I'm considering the titanium kit that comes with the 1100 ml pot. Amazon has it for under $35 USD.

[@highlandtrekker]

Good review Mark !, could it be that the fact of one of your pots having an open spout therefore releasing steam slowed it's boiling time ?. Also you had mentioned to me about a scout style stove (made in china) that was much closer to the solo lite dimensions, where did you see that ?. Thanks for sharing

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

You could be right Wayne. Plus the wider, lower stance of the MSR pot likely contributed to the quicker boil time as well. Here is the link I mentioned www.aliexpress.com/item/32708998661.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.816c2e0elqSFrH

[@connosaurus]

Kijika Life I suspect the use of the provided pot stand (even more so with Mark's stainless steel ruler pot stand) would have a much greater bearing on the tower stove's boil time.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Looking at the stove again, I think it is closer to the Solo Titan in size

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

here is something new to take a look at www.aliexpress.com/item/4000054505932.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.816c2e0elqSFrH

[@patriceb26]

Bonjour So which one is the best ?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I like them both. Each is best but for different reasons. Thanks for commenting

[@patriceb26]

Ok Merci 🤗👍

[@martinpecheur8506]

Bought a wood gasifier stove..still waiting for delivery..will give u me assessments

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Looking forward to hear your thoughts on the stove. Thanks for commenting

[@jackvoss5841]

I’m thinking that some important metrics for gasifier stoves are: (1) Diameter of burn chamber (2) Height of burn chamber to bottom of top vents (3) Total volume of burn chamber Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks for commenting

[@kentsoh1064]

Hi, do you have the link for the Scout stove ? Amazon ... Thank you

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

This is the closest I could find on Amazon.ca www.amazon.ca/TOMSHOO-Backpacking-Portable-Windproof-Stainless/dp/B078RK3PY5/ref=sr_1_31?crid=3568ZDS1KW035&dchild=1&keywords=lixada+stove&qid=1588339407&sprefix=lixada%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-31

[@kentsoh1064]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you Mark for your speedy reply

[@danielkutcher5704]

I couldn't help but notice how much higher above the flames the pot was on the tower stove than on the "Scout" stove, hence, the slower boil time in this video.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, and check out the followup to see more. Thanks for commenting

[@dre77347]

Nice comparison video, Mark! I'm interested in the lixada wood stove. Can you give me the smallest inner diameter of the stove? That would be perfect, i want to know if my other cooking stuff fits in the stove.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Hello. Assuming you mean the Lixada stove I call the Tower Stove, the internal dimensions of the small burn chamber are 925mm x 925mm. Let me know if it is the other stove you are referring to. Thanks for commenting

[@dre77347]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft thank you, yes i mean the tower stove, sorry.

[@henrymoreland8719]

You have convinced me Mark, the "scout" looks the way to go, do you have a link for it?, I thought I heard you say "link below", thanks either way.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad I was able to help out. Try this link www.aliexpress.com/item/32758281066.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.19b52724CAXLoV&algo_pvid=926cd7c3-fa5c-4e53-8f6f-ed0383910611&algo_expid=926cd7c3-fa5c-4e53-8f6f-ed0383910611-11&btsid=5e706bcb-37cf-4a6c-9db2-7e0e83cbac92&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_7,searchweb201603_52 Make sure you pick the smaller of the two options

[@henrymoreland8719]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Mark excuse my apparent stupidity but is that link not to the "tower", it shows a few pics of the "scout", but I am unsure from reading the advert that the "med" version offered is the "scout". PS, IF I am wrong, and indeed stupid, please don't dignify my comment with a response.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

@@henrymoreland8719 Please do not call yourself stupid. It is likely my fault for sending your the wrong link. I am including the link to my original video on the tower stove as I have a working link to the stove in that video description. Please let me know if that works for you kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJq2dGWqqNNpoc0

[@bradjohnson4787]

You can load longer wood in the tower stove.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, a lot more. I show that in a follow-up video to this one. Thanks for commenting

[@kadebarry]

I just ordered a "tower" stove to add to my obsessive collection, based on your and a couple of other reviews. Here's an error: You first described the Tower as 6.5 oz and 182 grams. Then, when comparing it to the "Scout" you said they were very close; 1 lb 6 1/2 oz vs. 1 lb 11 oz. If the Tower is truly 6 1/2 oz, then there's no comparison.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

So, the weights you repeat are for the assembled kits, not the stoves by themselves. The "scout" weighs 14oz/397gr. Thanks for commenting

[@benutzer_definiert]

after 3 times I just couldn't find the ball under it ;-)

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

😅Thanks for commenting

[@tkaald]

The tower stove will better lick the bottom of your pot if you fit the cross plate pot stand.

[@MSScout86]

I was wondering about this also. Perhaps Mark will address this.Thanks again Mark for another informative video.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

In my experience the pot stand will not make a difference as there are so many large holes at the top to allow exhaust. I am open to re-doing the test to see if it does. Thanks for commenting