Liz Kloepfer/Robert Keppel/02-21-78

[@lynneivison5773]

liz is a courageous woman

[@AlmostParadise_RK]

I wish they had listened to Liz the first time she told them about Bundy. Even though she loved the creep, she did the right thing and reported him. They could've saved A LOT of lives...

[@adamcairns2434]

HaddonfieldMemorial they did listen to her, they had 2000 suspects & no real way to completely organise the information from so many cases. Besides that, in the 70's, he's the last person they'd suspect.

[@billsimms2511]

Problem is, she wasn’t the only one that called in to tell them about a creepy boyfriend or husband. Every time there are cases like this, law enforcement gets saturated with hundreds of tips about strange persons that could be the killer . They then have to go through and weed them out

[@kforcer]

Actually, Liz didn't include his name the first two times she called. And actually, through the computerized cross-referencing system Keppel instituted, they had Bundy as one of their top 4 POI's. The problem was that, even after he was arrested for the kidnapping of Carol Daronch following getting detained driving through a neighborhood at night with his headlights out, they lacked enough physical evidence for a conviction. And when it comes to murder, you only get one shot, thanks to double jeopardy.

[@kforcer]

@@adamcairns2434 Well, he was in something like their top 4 list of POI's based on that computer cross-referencing system, even before the Daronch incident and his subsequent arrest. So he was en route to being one of their prime suspects, if not their prime suspect. But they still lacked physical evidence.

[@lesleymaner2851]

I believe, but could be wrong, that when women started missing in Utah as soon as Ted moved there, she was the one who contacted Utah law enforcement before Seattle law enforcement contacted them. She had been in constant contact with Seattle law enforcement for months by that time.

[@TBx46]

I love liz ❤️

[@nikkiroeder5774]

Me too. A sweet person.

[@systemsenemy1]

I love her daughter ❤❤❤

[@ashleyhess6461]

Same, she went through so much he’ll loving the wrong person

[@DarkCriimes]

@@nikkiroeder5774very vulnerable. That’s why Bundy “chose” her.

[@andreaavila4219]

"He remembered that he ate two hamburgers and he enjoyed every bite of it" What a twisted way to confess what he did on july 14th and how much he enjoyed every bit of it.

[@Sebastian-km9qx]

I still wish we knew exactly what went down. Like I heard he killed one of the girls in front of the other who knows if that’s true

[@manmoth_1990]

@@Sebastian-km9qx The Michaud/Aynesworth tapes seem to back that up. His 3rd person "hypothetical" accounts of what "could have happened" was his way of re-living the scenes out loud. Michaud would ask him questions like "was the first girl alive when the second one arrived?" and Ted would consistently reply with "it's possible" if the answer was yes, and "it's unlikely" if the answer was no. In the Ott/Naslund case the answer was yes. He went into great detail about the abductions. However, he always shyed away from admitting to enjoying the fear and torture his victims endured, almost never talked about the sexual aspect, and he never in detail about the child victims, i.e. Lynette Culver and Kimberly Leach. I'm sure the list of victims is at least twice as long as the 'official' one.

[@laurataylor8179]

​@@manmoth_1990thanks for answering that and remember all the utah victims were children

[@sharonletchford9375]

I wonder if he studied psychology perhaps hoping to find out something about himself?

[@valb9963]

Most do I think

[@rebeccaknowles178]

She must of had the worst broken heart, what got me is when she said he wanted to kill her so he left her house because he felt the urge to kill coming on that's Scarry.

[@thepyli]

Thanks for uploading as usual, Chris. I hope you and Paula are doing well!

[@marcellametallica6950]

Poor Liz .. how much it must have cost dearly for her to make this ..💔

[@masqueradeheart8356]

Omg this is just awesome I just have one question and everyone on instagram/social media are wondering why the other ted bundy videos are private now please please please bring them back if there is a reason please tell me I just love you're videos they provide so many information about the victims.

[@patrickmccarron5059]

He kills two girls and then meets up with Liz at around 5 pm to eat 2 hamburgers? Just seems like such a short timeline. He was seen with Denise around 3pm and then eating hamburgers by 5pm? He moves fast.

[@arsenewenger30]

You come across like a barrister. It sounds like you're trying to defend him.

[@tonydaza8504]

@@arsenewenger30 more like amazed that he was that quick with killing two women with his hands and moving so quick like nothing happened because it’s crazy

[@cautionTosser]

yes but he wasn't done at that point. more like a "to be continued..."

[@patrickmccarron5059]

@@arsenewenger30 , no - Ted definitely committed those murders. And I think both girls were dead once he left to go meet Liz for hamburgers. He moved fast to create an alibi. But still - he moved fast.

[@reemmoustafa9133]

I think its because he comes back after he kills them Its terrifying when you think of the details

[@jaybland9112]

Man you are the best dude. this is a sweet find

[@TammyM36]

I’ve heard this before and it’s hard listening to. You can’t help but feel for Liz. This was her life. Real life. Non fiction here. Just so unbelievable. I can’t imagine what she went thru. I’ve been in plenty bad relationships but I mean having to deal with this is just unimaginable. I feel Ted really wanted to be honest with her here.

[@CaptainBorax]

Me to, ugh. But hers youre right, much worse than most of us have encountered or will. She's made it through thkugh, having a decennt life but you can imagine not a moment goes by without the spector of Bundy haunting her. Places she goes, music, people

[@TammyM36]

You’re exactly right. I admire Liz and think she seems super sweet. She’s by far my favorite “Ted girlfriend”. Now that Carol Boone chick…. I’ll just leave it at that.

[@CaptainBorax]

@@TammyM36 Carol Boone was definitely loco. But she did dip out I think after realizing what a weird situation she was in .. One of those looney prison wives. I guess he got something out of it and she did too, her husband was infamous

[@TammyM36]

I suppose, yes. But she was just strange. She seemed like someone I wouldn’t trust. Probably completely wrong and I shouldn’t judge but idk. Strange woman

[@CaptainBorax]

@@TammyM36 She was super weird, no question! She had this Evelyn Draper feel to me. Seems like she was really gravitating to all the attention to, until she realized she started getting so much negative

[@sunlessdisaster2520]

Wow, I'm impressed not only by the video but by you! How do you find all of this after such a long time?

[@CaptainBorax]

A lot of digging and scrapping through KC archives! Thanks for hangin out, old dusty audio

[@elroddin76]

@@CaptainBorax Incredible. This is a big piece of crime history.

[@shaun8764]

Captain borax.. awsome channel awsome videos, all the bundy videos are really interesting, the tupac video you done aswell was brillant, keep making them bro 👍

[@CaptainBorax]

Thanks mon frere! Yeah no worries loads more coming

[@bundydata]

I looking into the words he uses, mostly about his trials, he says things like they got busted, it'll fall apart, they'll knock them out of the park ..not real phrases but it's amazing how often he uses words like bashing, hitting they aren't in reference to the killings just conversations.

[@CaptainBorax]

That is very interesting, I'll look for that in the future with his word salad in the Colorado jail cell especially. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@bundydata]

Do you know how many miles his 68bug had on it when sold? Just run three mile FL very very hot at least 97

[@sharonletchford9375]

Interesting ,seems as if you ve done well in your reserch. Thank you.

[@sharonletchford9375]

​@@bundydata That would be interesting to no , Things we never think of But could have been useful. Thanks again.

[@mariastrinavic8141]

Fantastic, as always.

[@valb9963]

Confessed to Liz his spree began in 69! Why wasn't he questioned about this ?

[@killereverb3928]

Before 69

[@sagittarius92mg56]

thanks for posting

[@WailuaStrain]

What was Bundy referring to when he spoke of "something he couldn't be around?" He then said, "Please don't make me say it". - ???? He wasn't talking about alcohol because he had just mentioned alcohol prior to the comment I am referring to. 🤔

[@QueenAlexis556]

He was referring to his addiction to murdering/raping women

[@daniellea.9624]

young pretty girls

[@angelikarose1337]

Wow...that was alot

[@Frednelore]

We know that from 1974 on he went on a rampage. But, was it the start of it (outside his mind)? Because with the first victim (known) he hit her --left for dead. The difference between those first assaults --with the ones in Utah, for example-- are so flagrant that before 1974 --if he killed-- that would have been just another dumb murderer easily caught. Would like to know your thoughts on that, Captain. And thank you for the uploads.

[@CaptainBorax]

Do you mean Karen Sparks? For sure, he had a lot of luck, but miraculously, he didn't wake anybody in the house up, including the 2 young men roomates up in close proximatey of her, one of which was an Army reserve on recently discharged, or herself. She was dead asleep when the assault occured, and didn't wake up for days later, with no recollection. That must have been erie for her and everyone in the house. I need to refresh my memory but I believe there were signs of a forced entry to so that would have been noisy. He had a lot of good luck confined with the communities that he chose ( Like Utah) That were not oblivious but unexpected O the sort of behavior. Not to say these places lived in Lala land they certainly had violent crimes from time to time, But his hit-and-run tactics, poor police work and record keeping, communication, his facades kept him free for about a year and a half in the 1970s. He moved around a lot to. He made a lot of you would think fatal errors ( Lake Sammamish daylight attack using his real name, FPM, Kent) But luck kept him out of jail for a time. I don't think he would ever have got away with any of this today with Advanced law enforcement techniques, cctv, etc. I guess it's a complicated question and answer in luck certainly played into it

[@Frednelore]

@@CaptainBorax Thank you for the answer. Yes, Karen Sparks. But my real doubt is: do you think she was the first one?

[@CaptainBorax]

@@Frednelore Probably not he probably let a few other slip by, Even killed 1 or 2 more than likely took him years to eventually work up to his rampage. A lot of that old history is lost in the seas of time

[@AlmostParadise_RK]

I agree with the Captain here. The assault on Karen Sparks was pretty brazen, where a lot of things could've gone wrong. I would be willing to bet that Bundy's first killing(s) were hitchhikers since they are the easiest targets. However, we do know that almost everything he owned, at the time, was stolen, so it's a pretty good guess that he was breaking into places to steal stuff, and in doing so, he was working his way up to home invasions like Karen Sparks and Lynda Healy.

[@Frednelore]

It seems plausible, yeah, Mr. Captain and Jonh Smith. But since we are investigating the mind of this madman, it is essencial to go further (or else it makes little sense) and ask at least two questions. 1.Does it makes sense that he killed Ann Marie Burr when riding a bycicle --how could he carry her body and hyde her? 2. If he killed before and was somewhat 'dorment', what triggered the rampage that started in 1974? (From them on it became his life goal --not politics or some degree in any university.)

[@angeldaniel7360]

Why you erase Ted Bundy victims video capital!!!????

[@andrewcross8244]

Liz was a babe. Her daughter, Molly is a super Fox today

[@greenman6141]

I understand, I hope I do anyway, that you are, in some fashion, trying to be complementary, but..... "babe" "Fox". These sorts of words and ways of talking about them seem so not appropriate. This kind of dim frat boy speak. They are humans. Not foxes. They are very adult Not babes (that's the weirdest way of referring to someone that a man finds sexually attractive. Really really creepy).They are noticeably thoughtful and seemingly bright good hearted people. Whose lives were also torn apart by Bundy. Molly said she also suffered terribly from alcohol issues during and after. It is notable how they are not complainers or histrionic. Quietly spoken and with much concern and empathy for others. What Bundy did was - by his very devices, select women who were kinder than others. The women who would quickly agree to help someone. He victimized them for being good people. This seems to be reflected in Liz as well. It is so notable how kind and non judgmental she is. The work that Liz went on to do further demonstrates this. She was very different from Carol Boone, who though obviously vulnerable in some ways, also seemed to be attention seeking and really cruel in her lack of concern about the dead young women and children and their families. I mean, a 12 year old girl's murder trial, and Boone is simpering and giggling on the witness stand while Bundy proposes. It was beyond disgusting.

[@IndianOutlaw1870]

No one was offended by these words in the 20th Century. In fact, no one was offended by much of anything.

[@cansu10852]

​@@greenman6141 I totally agree with you.

[@knuffelmaus7175]

@@IndianOutlaw1870 So sad, you can't call any women any name you like anymore. My heart goes out to you. Back in the days women were supposed to not complain, when they didn't like something- these were the great times.

[@killereverb3928]

I agree. It’s a contemporary compliment to both women. Perfectly harmless positive and kind. To have some self-appointed touchhole opine on it at length is wholly judgmental and ridiculously misplaced.

[@angeldaniel7360]

They got deleted!!??

[@CaptainBorax]

Reworking most of em adding some content, nothing to insane that will make them a lot different, but more interesting, will be back soon I promise!

[@angeldaniel7360]

Captain Borax ok !!

[@angeldaniel7360]

Wow he was worse serial killer!!!!

[@cyrene7784]

Nice boots.

[@AS-vq3wt]

Why are these cops still asking questions???? How much more proof do they need here???? Jesus!

[@Romulan2469]

They are doing their job.

[@rachelpeters7046]

They would likely need as much evidence as possible for trial including witness testimony

[@AS-vq3wt]

@Rachel Peters the fact is the cops in Washington didn't wanna work with cops in Utah and the Utah cops didn't wanna work with the Florida cops. Nobody was sharing Intel whatsoever and it cost innocent women their lives. Shameful.

[@adrianaboga8361]

🤔👂

[@jackweatherford5125]

after all these years poor liz is still super needy, clingier than velcro

[@IndianOutlaw1870]

Not even worthy of a response.

[@ashleyhess6461]

Wow grow up please. You have a-lot to learn about the world.