Liz Truss lost the Conservative economic lead | The New Statesman

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10 күн бұрын

"From 2007 till about the end of 2022, the Conservative lead on the economy went almost unchallenged. It was only after Liz Truss that the narrative changed."
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@scallamander4899
@scallamander4899 8 күн бұрын
Strange, because on average the economy grows about the same under Labour as under the Tories. In fact it’s slightly better under Labour. Just shows you the power of the right wing media in the UK.
@olnbgy4444
@olnbgy4444 8 күн бұрын
Conservatives are very good at playing on ppls fears , and that’s what conservative media does, it’s all fear based . The US has a roaring economy right now but conservatives have convinced ppl that were in a recession.
@scallamander4899
@scallamander4899 8 күн бұрын
@@olnbgy4444 The economy is doing fine in one sense, but there has indeed been a decline in people's economic well-being compared to their parents generation. It's the fault of Reagan's ideas on fiscal retrenchment, on union-smashing, on de-regulation, etc.
@BoyeeSmudger
@BoyeeSmudger 7 күн бұрын
​@@scallamander4899exact same thing happened with Thatcher. They were two peas in a pod. Greedy corporations not paying their employees right amount
@vem9583
@vem9583 3 күн бұрын
When voters say that economy is an important issue, they rarely actually know anything about the current economy. It’s based more on how they feel, which is often shaped by media and politicians. This happens in quite a lot of countries like the US and even Finland.
@lonyo5377
@lonyo5377 Күн бұрын
​@@scallamander4899is it? If we have records immigration and low growth then GDP per capita can be going down.
@billybob-jp7eh
@billybob-jp7eh 7 күн бұрын
2008 crash caused by sunak and his banking mates.
@AirTMZ
@AirTMZ 10 сағат бұрын
Giving him too much credit. He didn't cause anything, but he did benefit from it
@johnnymism
@johnnymism 8 күн бұрын
I'm fed up about hearing very rich men moving their money due to politics. What kind of democracy do we live in where they have such influence? The media's obsessing over these individuals is sickening.
@robhughes645
@robhughes645 8 күн бұрын
This is where the real power lies. Whoever is most likely to get into government gets given the money. This is to influence law in favour of these individuals and their interests, which is basically open bribery but they call it lobbying.
@GramdalfFGC
@GramdalfFGC 7 күн бұрын
With this it's not just big money it's normal people, whether or not it was the sole cause or not the truss budget fucked peoples mortgages
@christophermarshall527
@christophermarshall527 8 күн бұрын
A fourteen year Track Record of economic failure including Brexit finally just struck people as absurd especially given those the Tory Party serve have made obscene profits.
@LOLE_Editz
@LOLE_Editz 7 күн бұрын
Don't forget Partygate and Covid
@stephensmith799
@stephensmith799 4 күн бұрын
Don’t forget that financial deregulation in the UK and USA caused the global financial crisis of 2007-8. Tories good with the economy? It should have been glaringly obvious that they are not🤨
@kola100
@kola100 8 күн бұрын
For me it was boris
@thuggie1
@thuggie1 6 күн бұрын
I think also with the members it was not much the econermy at first it was that turd was made PM without any democratic process in the party
@edsr164
@edsr164 8 сағат бұрын
We should thank her
@anthonybrown4874
@anthonybrown4874 8 күн бұрын
Probably one of the few in a safe enough seat to have a chair on parliament when the music stops absurdly nuts.😢
@ta2090
@ta2090 3 күн бұрын
Perhaps Liz’s actions were a blessing in disguise. Given Rishi’s current positioning on Tax and speculative funding, perhaps we would have seen the same action but later on (to shield from election headlines) had Rishi been in place instead of her. So the question is did Liz’s actions let us get a read on the Conservatives with time to spare for voting decisions.
@The_Kawazaki_Kid
@The_Kawazaki_Kid 3 күн бұрын
Labour getting big business to hold back investment
@garyh5541
@garyh5541 3 күн бұрын
Vote Reform 🇬🇧
@johnbrereton5229
@johnbrereton5229 4 күн бұрын
The reason Labour overtook the Conservatives is because the Cons betrayed their own voters. I was a Conservative member and though I wasn't happy with Boris handling if Brexit. I though he should have been left to serve his elected time. However, when they removed him I voted for Truss because I thought she had some good ideas. Afterwich, the econmy tanking was blamed on her, but it was really caused by the Bank of England dumping a lot of gilts onto the market at the same time and this was no doubt politically motivated. They then got rid of her and replaced her with twice rejected Sunak, only this time without a members vote. Thats when I and many other left the party and their support has now fallen off a cliff. Therefore, it was the Cons own arrogance that lost them support, nothing that Labour did to earn it.
@jacklevell9597
@jacklevell9597 2 күн бұрын
Cutting taxes during a period of high inflation => even more inflation. This is what caused the banks and pension funds to panic and the Bank of England had to do its best to fix it. You don’t rev the engine when it is already overheating This is 1st year economics Liz Truss is a trained economist. She ignored fiscal policy 101 because she wanted power and she seems to have understood the people voting for her (apparently) don’t understand the first thing about how to control inflation
@johnbrereton5229
@johnbrereton5229 2 күн бұрын
@@jacklevell9597 Before you criticise Truss or the voters who elected her, you shoulder consider that perhaps your own opinion is rather naive and condescending. Leading economist Julian Jessop said that interest rates have a far greater effect on Inflation than tax rates. And this high inflation meant that the Government had collected around £8billion more from tax payers making a very strong case for tax cuts. After Truss made her announcement the Bank of England simultaneously dumped a huge trunc of gilts onto the market, and it was this that crashed the economy, not Truss. Was this a political move by the Bank to get rid of Truss ? Many think it was, as was the installing of twice rejected globalist fan boy Sunak in her place, this time without his inevitable rejection in an election. Now the electorate are back in control and are destroying the CON-servatives who betrayed them to serve their Globalist masters. If you still don't understand, just sit back and let those that do finish the job.
@jacklevell9597
@jacklevell9597 2 күн бұрын
@@johnbrereton5229 does Julian Jessop a “self employed” leading economist says that unfunded tax cuts during a period of high national debt and high inflation is a good idea? It’s an unorthodox thesis. Imprudent. One might even say reckless. You can always find one pet economist to support any idea. I’m with the economists who advised the bankers who advised all their clients to head for the door ASAP causing a crisis that the Bank of England had to fix in order to keep markets operating. Or it’s a conspiracy because bankers and hedge fund managers all think tax cuts bad all the time. One of the two.
@johnbrereton5229
@johnbrereton5229 2 күн бұрын
@@jacklevell9597 Economist never agree on anything and as the Marxist Greek economist, Yanis Varafakis said: Economics is just politics masquerading as Science. So if course these political economist will support the Bank of Englands position. Who of course could fix the problem, after all they created it ?
@jim-es8qk
@jim-es8qk 6 күн бұрын
The Owen Patterson scandal was the turning point.
@johnsmith-xr1uh
@johnsmith-xr1uh 8 күн бұрын
Good old crazy lizzy
@TheOriginalFishPond
@TheOriginalFishPond 8 күн бұрын
She mildly deviated from the orthodox system and was cast out by banks. Not sure its the slam dunk people think, even if you disagree with her.
@TheParrot421
@TheParrot421 7 күн бұрын
Who’s Liz, thought we all agreed to forget about that specimen.
@AH-te5gs
@AH-te5gs 6 күн бұрын
A type of lettuce
@JB_inks
@JB_inks 8 күн бұрын
Fousand
@DeltaV-sayno2CCP
@DeltaV-sayno2CCP 6 күн бұрын
P o r k. M a r k e t s. 😁
@guff9567
@guff9567 8 күн бұрын
We ❤ Truss.
@stoyanfurdzhev
@stoyanfurdzhev 6 күн бұрын
It is the leader of Reform's turn now .
@guff9567
@guff9567 8 күн бұрын
Rubbish . It was your PERSONAL fault for kowtowing to lockdown
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 6 күн бұрын
grow up
@guff9567
@guff9567 5 күн бұрын
@@kanedNunable why is the State of Kansas suing Pfizer for billions?
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