Liz Truss’s honour list shows a ‘culture of political patronage’ | Conservative MP

“Are political honours only there to recognise work for the party, for parliament or for the nation as a public servant?”
Liz Truss’s honour list shows a “culture of political patronage” which “can’t be good for British politics”, says Conservative MP, Tobias Ellwood.
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[@logant6490]

These people have no shame. Corruption and self interest in plain sight.

[@billywoodward584]

Liz Truss should be investigated and her list should be scrutinised. The idea of a honours list that seems to reward Political ideology more so than people who deserve recognition, yet another political disgrace committed mostly by Tory Governments.

[@kurtgodel5236]

That's not going to happen in the hilariously corrupt and unaccountable UK.

[@StickyBud9395]

I'm sick of corruption and cronyism in politics, politics have always been corrupt, but these last 10-15 years they've plummeted to new depths, sadly I don't see it getting any better in the future, whoever is running the country.

[@31Blaize]

I remain hopeful that a change of government means an improvement, if not least because the media tend to cover for Tories but give Labour a far harder time therefore they don't get away with as much. I will remain hopeful until proven otherwise.

[@EdwardOberon]

WE have to change things. They won't. Why would they.

[@factstrumpprejudice6740]

You mean that the British political system is corrupt. ..... who'd have thought.

[@vanhohenheim7480]

public gets what they voted for

[@mawilliams777]

@@vanhohenheim7480no, the public votes for what they allowed to and what is presented to them, it’s time to change everything, total reform is the way forward

[@DavidGetling]

Most of the so-called honours are rewards for cronyism.

[@nick78447]

Truss and Kwarteng should be charged with misconduct in public office. It sickens me what they did to the country, the scale of damage is incredible - £37 BILLION blown on their hair brained project which every man and his dog could see was going to fail. It's criminal and they should be locked up for it.

[@plugsocket9432]

It was never given a chance. The policies would have created money in the longer term. Enjoy your high tax, big government and low productivity.

[@TheMarlinspike]

@@plugsocket9432Tired, incorrect drivel. Give it a rest.

[@ozzie2612]

@@plugsocket9432 vvanker

[@nifralo2752]

​@@plugsocket9432 aka "the ussr wasnt real communism"

[@nifralo2752]

​@@yyy-875by that logic maybe north korea was prosper in another 500 years

[@anthonywalsh2520]

If a prime minister resigns then no perks should be given. Blair resigned Cameron, may, Johnson , truss all resigned.

[@ozzie2612]

only 1 went on his own terms and he was the 1 not to do a honours list

[@pw2809]

Sunik is doing the same - they get privileges when been or being PM - they don't care about us all - PERIOD!! People of this Country need to take over and change but they have created a multi-cultural country were they divide and conquer, us Brits won't join together and kick these A-Holes out!!!

[@Boghopper9999]

Just playing devils advocate here, the only ways a PM can be replaced is by resignation, being overthrown (vote of no confidence) and losing their seat (losing the vote or not standing which is effectively resigning). Would you offer perks for being overthrown or voted out?

[@neorich59]

Truss should be utterly ashamed. But, she has no shame. She should've done the decent thing and not provided an "Honours List," but she has no decency. Somewhere, in her hubristic mind, she thinks she's done no wrong and probably hopes for a second bite at the cherry. Gods help us all, if she ever gets one!

[@willtricks9432]

Nothing in Truss' head to feel shame, she is a nutcase.

[@alanwatterson2850]

Truss does not deserve any recognition or special favours for her short stay in 10 Downing St, just ridicule.

[@grahamsmith2022]

Sunak could have blocked Truss's "honours" list but being a man of no honour and no testicles he folded like origami.

[@joesoy9185]

4:13 The question is a good one. Unfortunately, Elwood, in true Johnson fashion, waffles on and on for several minutes without answering it. It´s a damn shame that the interviewer let him get away with it.

[@dwdei8815]

"It´s a damn shame that the interviewer let him get away with it" It's precisely what this rotten, tory.loving radio channel was set up to do.

[@elspethgibson7625]

Shows the corrupt nature of British political structure. But we continue this myth....

[@mawilliams777]

I agree, but what can we do, it makes my blood boil.

[@countfosco8535]

The House of Lords needs urgent reform. How can you have an unelected Upper House in a democracy? Or an unelected Revising Chamber, as Tobias Ellwood calls it?

[@alphadraconis9898]

It’s a pity there isn’t a mechanism to veto this, even if it has long been ceremonial one should exist. I am no royalist, but it would do wonders if the King could take sufficient umbrage to throw out her list.

[@calumbishop7082]

There is a mechanism to veto it, the problem is its in the hands of the current PM, and even though Sunak is no fan of Liz Truss he will still wave these through. But what it does mean is that Sunak himself won't likely be able to craft his resignation honours in complete impunity, assuming he loses the next election to Labour. Even so, this list is abysmal.

[@johnwright9372]

Don't hold your breath.

[@willtricks9432]

The only mechanism is personal discussion in the public sphere and the refusal to vote TORY. Then reform the Lords and bring in Proportional Representation in all political levels.

[@sparkskie]

The “Optics”……… Tobias - you can do better than that….. call it what it is….. corruption at its finest and rewarding failure

[@lw1zfog]

don’t shoot the messenger ! he’s just a 77th Brigade apparatchik, doing exactly as instructed.

[@muirislandjim453]

The worst Government in living memory

[@StickyBud9395]

You're so right.

[@SimonPlowman]

The most corrupt ​@@StickyBud9395

[@TheMarlinspike]

What a load of hot air.

[@mikemyers8064]

I feel that she should not have been eligible to make recommendations for the honours list in view of such a short term .

[@jeffstonr9792]

Honors list is corrupt and outdated and should be scrapped.

[@thomaspridmore106]

And the lords

[@Safc0191]

The world is laughing at us, Who and what did Liz Truss do for our country. How can she make judgment on anyone.

[@ianworley8169]

Four honours lists in one electoral term. How utterly ridiculous. The tradition should be scrapped, or at least limited to one per electoral cycle. Better still, just scrap the House of Lords and replace it with a PR elected chamber.

[@soulman1419]

I think it’s absolutely disgusting for her to even be considered let alone get 🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@andrewdilworth9180]

Trust is a disgrace how dare she ,I’m still paying more now for my house because of her ,she should be kicked out of politics for good

[@Redsleather]

Nice safe seat in Tory Norfolk, no chance

[@bigbang7897]

Corrupt British politics at its worst

[@phildavies6020]

She should award an honour to Kwarteng and give one to herself.... 'For Service to the Bankruptcy Industry'

[@knightyknight5399]

And still the working class vote for the Tories

[@catherinemartin6258]

100 grand pension a year for life because she was pm for a about a month disgusting.

[@markjohnston7869]

I'm surprised this failed PM didn't give a BEM to every Tory member who voted for her to wreck the party.

[@mattrichardson2451]

And not just the party either but the country

[@ozzie2612]

she needs some jail time

[@Emchisti]

We've had the clear indication of what your party has to offer. Nobody wants it.

[@orlandomontfort5101]

Liz Truss should be in prison.

[@TheVillageIdiotUk]

Truss’ honours list is corruption in plain sight. £100k buys a seat on the red benches - an absolute disgrace.

[@johncarroll7585]

The so-called ‘honours system’ all too often produces nauseating and pathetic examples of sycophantic nonentities being foisted on the public and has done so for decades.

[@davidcoates4852]

"culture of political patronage" is that a euphemism for nepotism and corruption?

[@davidpearson243]

Fancy getting an honour off Liz Truss What a badge of shame

[@JupiterThunder]

I'm pleased that Sir Bufton Tufton and Sir Tufton Bufton both got life peerages.

[@SteveRose-iq1cs]

The Tories have been ripping of the great British people for the longest time. Hey red wall Tories are you feeling sore yet?

[@geoffwyness2645]

The system is beyond repair,absolutely rotten to the core.

[@liamdolly887]

If you think unelected lords and ladies and empire medals are acceptable may I remind you it’s nearly 2024 not 1924.

[@martinradcliffe4798]

Sadly the honours awarded to deserving people are tarnished by association with such blatantly corrupt and farcical awards.

[@lw1zfog]

oh look, it’s Toby ‘nudge unit’ Ellwood of the 77th Brigade, mind warper in chief.

[@colinnewmarch1106]

Utter contempt for British Public

[@POWERtothePEOPLE-GP78]

I can understand people who have never been labour voters not wanting to start now and voting Green or Lib Dem, but at this stage there is no reasonable excuse for voting tory except greed, lack of compassion, stupidity or all three.

[@grahamturner1290]

"That... Is... A... DISGRACE."

[@TheWorldsEnd66]

The Political Classes really are completely disconnected from the struggles of everyday life people face. Sir Cheap Pub Boss is just a joke and can be clearly seen for what it is. There’s a sea change brewing from the ground up.

[@mawilliams777]

I hope so, I have never felt more disgruntled than I do at this moment in time, they are stealing from you and me, our taxes paying peers pensions and payments, disgusting.

[@felixarbable]

Is there any chance the times doesnt campaign aggressively for the tories next election?

[@Redsleather]

Probably not

[@Peter-Ac]

to be honest if she’s allowed to have an honours list, then so should, the lettuce, who was the actual winner. It could award a cucumber, two tomatoes and a radish. peerages probably more worthy than her recipients

[@KendoLarks]

Liz Truss criminal should be in prison

[@mawilliams777]

More of our taxes going to waste on people that don’t need any more of OUR money

[@tapaarn5863]

If, as you say, individuals need to be thanked, give them a book token. Elevating sycophants and cronies of self-serving useless individuals who resign after seven weeks, shouldn't be a thing in UK politics.

[@maddrivers1018]

Shameful, Lords over 900 now.

[@daxhausentraveller8488]

How is this still allowed . Jobs for the boys and girls ! . There are no standards left in politics . Sham .

[@bettyholmes1155]

More like a pay off than what’s she achieved in Parliament she should refuse this obscene reward for doing nothing but beign there

[@TimesFM4532]

She should be paying the tax payer for what she did not honoured

[@peter4Flags]

Dishonourable giving honours . Another traitor.

[@Thebearmre7]

lol “this gov has brought stability” comedy gold from him. 😂😂😂😂

[@g.pmoore4293]

Why has this total failure at Prime Ministership been allowed anywhere near the honours system ?

[@colinlighten6700]

Sort of makes them valueless really…….

[@blatherskite3009]

I trust the rules are already being amended to say that a Prime Minister has to serve at least a year in the role - and actually be elected by the people, not just cycled in by the Party - to have any right to give out honours. And if not, why not?

[@obtuse1291]

Honours lists, or brown envelopes as it might be otherwise called. 😂😂

[@keiththomas6861]

Shameful liz

[@johnwright9372]

Ethical standards in British politics have plumbed depths not since since the 19th century Rotten Boroughs.

[@derekmulready1523]

Doff the Capp Tug the forlocs Peasants 🇮🇪🇪🇺

[@johnbannister1173]

None of them deserve a jot

[@exdoode]

This guy is a politician... just answer the question??

[@markmorris1105]

Tories 😢😢

[@markhayward7400]

There has always been a culture of political patronage. It is just that it has rarely been so obvious or so discredited as it is now. The only way to end this patronage is to ensure that serving politicians get no say either in who is honoured or how.

[@dianeirvine7624]

And the Bank of England , shouldn’t they shoulder responsibility , look at the big picture

[@linking-it]

Lots of talk about the Honours list but is it ever going to change Ever!!...

[@monged4life442]

Fantastic idea Tobias, right after your party appoint 4 honours lists in the term there should be a cross party proposal put in place to stop labour doing the same as they get in. It's fine for you but stop anyone else doing it. Perfectly sums up your party's stance on everything.

[@Now4wheels]

A name on the list Gerald Ronson stood out for me because he was one of the Guinness four -and now he has been knighted.

[@cupguin]

I can barely tell this apart from the satire video I just watched... What does "the optics" mean in this case? Because in reality it's a an actual disgrace not an optical illusion. People aren't worried about the optics of British politics. Calling something a problem of "optics" makes it seem like a PM who spent more time actively campaigning for the job than doing it having a resignations honours list would be fine if the circumstances were different. The people who are still recovering from her economic damage but I suppose at least she hasn't given her hairdresser a gong. Though she has rewarded Matthew Elliott and Jon Moynihan for all their help inflicting Brexit onto the UK public and giving the Tory party money. It's like she's trying to point out there are other thickies in the world with native overconfidence that their idiotic theories needed to become policy regardless of the resulting carnage.

[@jillbarrett2576]

How to devalue the coinage.

[@michaelmarriott11]

Corrupt isn’t it. She should be locked up not rewarded.

[@TheSuperPsychoKiller]

Corruption mafia like advances.

[@Gavin48]

Her list isn't as egregious as Boris's list. Leave her alone. 😔

[@tobeytransport2802]

0:51 it’s not a curiously British tradition.... most countries in Europe and across the world have high honours that they grant to wonderful people, only difference is they tend to give them to the prime ministers mate less because they don’t let the PM just give them out... they have to prove to the head of state, usually a President, that the recipient should actually receive them. I really do hate it when people say xyz is a uniquely British thing and I can immediately think of 5 or 10 or even 2 other countries in Europe that do the same.

[@buntyjoy1800]

If you were a politician in the commons you shouldn't be allowed in the Lords

[@patricktracey7424]

really south africa with there own apartheid reporting anyone to the war crimes court, you couldn't make this up.

[@mawilliams777]

Your comments on the non paying awards are just masking the lords and lasses awards allowing them to fleece us.

[@andrekrouwel4333]

It’s NOT a British tradition, many countries honour people for their contribution to society… those with monarch (archaic as it is) also have these royal recognition What most countries do not have is that prime ministers can give such titles away personally! Everyone should be able to nominate, but the power you give to ex prime minister is prone to such nepotism and corruption

[@betabenja]

‘culture of political patronage’ - or corruption, as we normal people know it

[@StephenCrowe-q1s]

Liz Truss should clear off and lose her seat at the next election if there is any justice.

[@BrentRichards-vp1cg]

🙊

[@markherzog9484]

There is no justification or value in Truss having an honours list, she broke the country in 49 days and gets rewarded and to reward her cronies and acolytes….. she has devalued the premis of the New Years honours list, which mainly, rewards people who do good work unselfishly and for long periods of time. Shame on her and her Party…..

[@richardgmitchell]

Tobias never fails to disappoint.

[@adblocker276]

She is utterly shameless

[@MrTzimisces]

Both Labour and the Tories will complain about stuff like this and will never do anything about it

[@marchekate]

This is a disc race.

[@Iamjimpage]

“question about Gaza” “Here’s my reply to a different question.

[@komputnik]

…a bad Python skit…

[@xinma6034]

Can’t see anything on the left

[@scagzy1]

Try answering a question ffs

[@dwdei8815]

Noted that Tobias proposes the peerage of Cameron as an example of it being "right". The backdoor appointment of a failed and rejected PM, the Greensill lobby sleazeball, the friend of Mone, not elected, immune from parliamentary scrutiny (because he's not elected), to one of the highest offices of state. From where he starts lecturing the elected parliaments of the devolved nations on what to do. It is a perfect case of the way the tories have undermined the country with their slithering, selfserving, vain and arrogant decade of theft and deceit.

[@HowardTurner-gn7ly]

Rat

[@rachelwebster9933]

Let’s all pray for our government with great fervour

[@ScruffyTubbles]

with respect to him (I do have some respect as with all MPs), I think Tobias is avoiding the question talking about Houthi Rebels when asked about domestic concerns inside Israel and the West Bank. To be fair it must be difficult for him to contemplate anything with his majority only 8806 in his Constituency Seat but I would expect a more enlightened response to the South African application and whether the UK is supporting this or not or just staying out of the argument temporarily.

[@Napoleonwilson1973]

🤮🤮🤮

[@bettyholmes1155]

Just in the same category as warmonger Blair

[@Frithogar]

I like the honours system. Most recipients have brown noses, so it is sensible not to trust anyone with a title or a gong. Very useful.

[@user-xd9yo3le7o]

The US has huge leverage over Israel. It hasn't held the petro states accountable for Russian sanctions busting either.

[@andrewmossop6241]

Oliver , no wonder Ben bailed! You two are the only Tories I would trust, Rishi has his nose in the trough! How much money do you need! Greedy people always fail. Get a grip you lot!

[@Mikpemsto89]

Stuffing the house of lords with sycophants is the Tories reward for failure. Only the powerful fail upwards like this.