NEVER got to use our brand new camper!

[@LizAmazing]

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[@rp1645]

Thank you so so much for doing these videos my RVer friend. If I want water or moisture when out camping I can use my tent, NOT when you finally have the money 💰 to buy a very expensive Home to stay in camper. I do see this ROOF issue with WATER throughout the industry. The ROOFS and windows have to be sealed better........... And don't make big DAMS with calking to make a puddle for water to sit on the roof.

[@billberry3669]

Sound like the dealership is not passing the buck. I bet they get it right soon. We had similar issues with our nexus super c. Traded it back in after only six weeks took a huge loss. We bit the bullet and bought a brand new renegade. Everything works perfectly fine on our renegade and no leaks or slide out issues.

[@jansmith3158]

Hi Liz, please let this couple know that this leaking could (most likely will) cause a major health issues with mold growing behind the walls/under the floors/ceiling/storage compartments. This couple needs to look into "mold & rv's issues", "mold symptoms" and most important "mold toxicant healthy issues". You can become extremly extremely sick being exposed to mold. And Rv's are notorious for mold issues even without a leaking roof. This camper is a lemon 🍋 Great reporting Liz!!! Another excellent video. I wish this couple all the best trying to resolve this nighmare.

[@garyreed354]

I bought a few rvs that leaked and fix them up my self payed nothing for them because they leaked now it's a good motorhome u have to be handy with these things

[@themancalledx]

After watching this channel for a week, I would never buy an RV. I thought car dealerships were devious. These guys are a whole another level.

[@killj802]

Buy European. ALL American RV’s are junk.

[@drn13355]

The warranties are essentially worthless. Also you can't fix something that was built like junk the begin with. They paid like 130K and now it is maybe worth 20 grand.

[@lindadubois850]

Sure changed my mind as well

[@paul9156c]

​@@killj802Didn't they have a driving issue? Where are the Mercedes-Benz chassis built?

[@paul9156c]

You gotta have more money than common sense, or are completely insane to buy a new RV these days.

[@donnaweiss4757]

There is NO excuse for this! People are paying ALOT of money for these NEW RV's and to find out its sub-standard quality. Thank you Liz for bringing this to the publics attention and helping out these people.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much for your support, Donna. I am outraged also. For $150,000+ you'd expect things to be right.

[@steveludwig4200]

I've been looking at RVs for two weeks and STOPPED because NONE of them have good build quality...not even average on most. Anybody buying ANY RV is foolish.

[@petersdraggon]

That's it! I'll buy an easy to find low mileage 30-40 year old camper and feed it gasoline. They can be had for less than the sales tax on one of these. I will customize some things and be satisfied. I can buy a lot of gas on the interest earned on by $150k.

[@jondonahue7163]

To Steve Ludwig -- what Peter is saying makes good sense... shop for an older one, 20-30 years old, at a very low price. Most RVs aren't used much, and have low mileage with a lot of life left in engine and transmission. Of course there will be a few problems -- you are basically bouncing a small house along at 60 mph -- but nothing too bad. The joy of the open road with a simple older rig more than offsets the cost!

[@jamesjoyce2528]

@@steveludwig4200 DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.

[@marilynkozlow8400]

I can’t imagine paying that much for a camper van and having those issues. I would be beside myself.

[@LizAmazing]

I know it. It's so frustrating. Thanks for watching.

[@georgek719]

I would think your biggest issue is around the corner - mold. That could make your Winnebago essentially uninhabitable.

[@LizAmazing]

Good point.

[@kal7049]

If that wasn’t completely dried out within 48 hours there is mold. Do not agree to let them “fix” it. Tell them to keep it and refund your money. Their local service rep told you this is an ongoing problem that the dealer and manufacturer both knew about it. I’m thinking it’s a fraud case at this point. The manufacturer won’t take you seriously until you get a lawyer involved.

[@stephanieverlench6591]

Winnebago needs to make this right by refunding the purchase price. This unit is definitely a lemon. Thanks Liz for holding these manufacturers accountable.

[@ralphp3057]

Nobody is accountable for anything anymore! No one is responsible. And isn’t lemon laws on RV’s !

[@kckettridge]

@@ralphp3057 Unfortunately RV Lemon laws vary from state to state and non-existent in some. They consider the matter a civil case which I think is BS. It shouldn't be that way.

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

Like mindef

[@LizAmazing]

I agree Stephanie. Thanks for your comment and stay tuned.

[@toddwilliams5905]

Who will be the next owner of this Turd?

[@skilltreed540]

Liz, please keep these stories coming. Without your platform...these people would not be heard! ❤

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so very much for your support!!!

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

She was a pleasure to speak with!! I hope I run into her one day sometime in the future!!!

[@bobbypaluga4346]

Winnebago just lost a buyer with me, I was heading in the direction of buying a similar camper but not if it cannot be sealed from water. Apparently the demand is so great that the RV companies think they can get by rushing trash thru the assembly lines.

[@jamesjoyce2528]

DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.

[@LizAmazing]

Bobby, it's not all bad news, thank goodness. There are RV companies doing it right. I think the smart ones realize they won't stay in business for long if they put out junk. Here is a recent video about happy buyers from a quality RV company: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6apfYuXq7Gomac

[@telcobilly]

@@jamesjoyce2528 That thought crossed my mind a long time ago. Between the purchase price, cost of gas, cost of campgrounds, maintenance, it just doesn't pencil out. I currently have a very reliable Tacoma 4x4 with a molded fiberglass slide in shell that has never leaked 1 drop since 2012 when I bought it. Don't think I'll ever buy any kind of RV.. At the most, it will be a molded fiberglass trailer that my taco can tow..

[@juliagregory5696]

me too that was on my next buy after this no way geeze all that money you saved me spending thankyou so much bless you x

[@catspaw3815]

A representative from Winnebago should fly out and be encouraged to live in the camper (and haunt Crowley's coffee lounge) until it's repaired 😁

[@TimothyMichaels]

😁😁

[@sylviaisgod6947]

Like in the movie, The Super.

[@jondonahue7163]

Along with their cute Winnebago rainproof designer jacket, waterproof boots, and leakproof older-folks underwear. Winnebago factory techs -- ready for anything!

[@RalphsPier1961]

Yeah and once he's had to live in it for 6 months, he can give that couple a brand new one, defect free.

[@oddlyme9659]

😂😂😂😂

[@hapaboy0808]

The issue is that these camper/RV manufacturers are hiring unskilled/cheap labor to maximize profits and are clearly not providing proper training to their build staff and definitely not performing quality control off the assembly line. Liz you are doing a great job brining this stuff to light. Thank you so much! Hopefully this will create a tidal wave of awareness that will bring change to the industry.

[@LizAmazing]

I sure hope so! Thank you for your support!

[@YvonneSchwartzYVON]

There is nothing cheep about RV employees. I'm from that industry and I know better . Most in my area are paid piece rate and have very healthy paychecks. Check out before spouting out. There are quality issues for many manufacturers but labor is not cheep

[@hap5215]

Employee turnover was an issue with Forest River I dealt with . Every time I phoned about an issue, and there were plenty of them I spoke to a different manager who had just taken over the position and had no record of my previous concerns . So much for Warren Buffet’s caring company bs in my view . Should have spent money on a cottage package instead in hindsight .

[@YvonneSchwartzYVON]

@@hap5215 absenteeism was horrible too. We used to Cater to some of their factories for break and lunch. during a company full breakfast buffet they had a meeting. their average was 25% absent every day

[@ceetee2021]

I'm just amazed people are still buying new RV's after all the negative news about the short cuts manufacturers have been taking in the last few years in the construction and lack of quality control just to get them out the door. My opinion: No Water Is Okay! There is no way I would accept that van! You don't know all the damage that's been caused do to the floods. Thanks for using your channel to bring these horror stories to light.

[@cherylreynolds2672]

Well used is a good option.

[@ceetee2021]

@@cherylreynolds2672 Yes. I look for something 2 yrs old and well taken care of.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for being here and for your kind words! Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.

[@justinlinnane8043]

the lesson here is buy a older much higher end motorhome. For the money these people pay new they could have best of the best if they shop for used RV with low ownership and good service history. it doesnt guarantee they wont have any issues but the qulity of some of the better units make it less likely . the other option is to investigate importing a german motorhome .

[@anthonyr5869]

@@LizAmazing most 2020 models were built in 2019 before the lockdowns but it’s good to do the research on the specific unit

[@jorgemartinez450]

This is a total nightmare!! Thank God we have someone that is willing to share these stories and help

[@LizAmazing]

You are so welcome Jorge! Stay tuned for the update.

[@TSinRM]

Watching your channel reinforces all the reasons we gave up RVing.

[@LizAmazing]

It's not for everybody and certainly a word to the wise if RV shopping. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.

[@josephalberta1145]

Its very nice to know that as your driving down the road with water pouring on your head, your bed, your floor, your kitchen, and other areas, that they are designed to leak without doing damage to the cheap fibre board these are made out of.

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

Ain't that a fact

[@LizAmazing]

It's so upsetting for sure. Thanks for watching, Joseph.

[@Cybersawz]

That cheap particle board will swell like a sponge when wet, and stay that way once dried.

[@Toxic-Male]

It’s really time to band together and bring a class action suit against these robbers and thieves,waiting til retirement to buy your dream only to end up with this kind of issues is beyond ridiculous.Warren Buffet owns the majority of RV production in the US ,that would be a good place to start.

[@michaelguyda9507]

That's what I was thinking, take them to court! And hopefully there would be an honest judge to hit them in their profits!!!

[@jamesjoyce2528]

Won't work. There are very specific rules to forming a proper class for Rule 23 litigation in the United States. Part of the requirement is all similarly situated class members need to have suffered similar injury, and seek similar damages. And this inquiry is *very* specific. Given the wide range of problems with RVs, motorhomes, trailers, minivans, as well as the markedly different damages, you will never, ever, ever get a class certified in the United States. Absolutely dead on arrival in any jurisdiction anywhere in the U.S.

[@Toxic-Male]

Question,since schwintec slides are the number one RV issue (huge problem) and are knowing still installed by RV manufacturing knowing they will fail ,this is not good enough for one class action? And this is just one item that is causing untold misery to a majority of RV owners. The RV manufactures would like you to believe failures are only about 3-4% in the first year but any RV park gathering will convince you otherwise.

[@oddlyme9659]

Warren Buffett? Which news organization had reported that?

[@jamesjoyce2528]

@@Toxic-Male It could be. If you can identify a single *design* or *manufacturing* defect that affects *most* or *all* units in a brand, or across all brands, *and* your class is within the warranty period, then maybe you could certify that class. But it better not be an installation defect, because that gets into individualized issues. It's actually very hard now to certify class actions in the U.S. But you've heard of a few successful ones. For example, the Volkswagen fraudulent fuel/pollution defect, where VW messed with the software across all vehicles to report false figures, that one was successful. Or a few years ago, the Kia/Hyundai engine failure class action, that engine was defectively designed and affected all vehicles. Need specific facts of a true design or manufacturing defect affecting many units, as well as measurable damages.

[@sewistnotsewer]

Wow, I thought a company like Winnebago would stand by their product. This is shocking!

[@LizAmazing]

I am hoping they see this video and make things right. Stay tuned for the update.

[@thorsrensen3162]

It should not happen to a product made in US.

[@kckettridge]

@sewistnotsewer, my brother and sister-in-law purchased a brand-new Winnebago Adventurer Class A and had leaks in and around the front cap/windshield area that the dealer couldn't fix and Winnebago said since they didn't make the chassis, it wasn't their responsibility. My brother took it to a Ford dealer who worked on heavy-duty Ford chassis, and they sealed around the clearance lights at the top of the cap and had the windshield replaced with all-new seals. That took care of the issue. A few years ago when my wife and I were looking to upgrade our travel trailer, the dealer had a bunch of Winnebago travel trailers on their lot they were trying to get us to look at but we just said NOPE! Won't do Winnebago anything after what my brother went through with theirs.

[@dmc522]

I keep hearing do not buy brand new. Especially over the past few years! They are pumping them out way toooooo fast! They don’t make them like they used to! Step up and give these people their earned money BACK!!! Ridiculous!!! Liz! You are doing a fantastic job with this series! Amazing for sure ❤

[@ralphp3057]

@@thorsrensen3162 Are you kidding? Lots of inferior junk built in the USA ! RV are just expensive junk . Lol

[@Midknight_Trucker]

Thank you for bringing these stories to light. As a commercial truck driver, I have dealt with water intrusion issues before especially with Freightliner and International but I had no idea that it was this bad in the private sector. There is no excuse for having water intrusion issues and to see what I thought was a reputable company like Winnebago having quality issues like this, makes me want to hold off on purchasing an RV for when I retire. Thanks again for shedding light on this issue and these folks stories

[@jamesjoyce2528]

Don't ever, ever, EVER purchase an RV. You have ZERO protection. Instead, purchase a reliable car, where you have significantly more protection in every state in the United States, including lemon law protection. Get a Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Subaru, even Hyundai and Ford make reliable cars. And then -- rent cabins, use AirBnB rentals and seek weekly discounts, cheap hotels. Do ANYTHING other than buy one of these worthless pieces of trash.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for your kind words! Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.

[@donokanagan]

My wife and I just put a deposit on one of these.........and were waiting for some upgrades, such as solar system, slide covers, etc... After watching this video, we cancelled our order and looking elsewhere. We did get 100% refund on our deposit. Dealer said this was an "Anomaly"...but were where not going to get scammed like this. Thank you for your video and experience. We did end up going with another manufacturer and put into the contract deficiencies like these that they were happy to agree with.........Just food for thought.

[@jamesjoyce2528]

DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.

[@jaydse6929]

um; what other manufacturer please?

[@LizAmazing]

Whew, sounds like you dodged a bullet. I hope Winnebago uses this as a wakeup call. They can't possibly stay in business if they make a shoddy product and then don't try to make it right. Thanks for your comment.

[@Westcoast_Kyle]

Don't buy 21,22,23,24 models !!!😂

[@Cybersawz]

You will get scammed buying any new RV these days. Save yourselves the misery. Life's too short. Cancel your current order.

[@barbwire65]

Liz, thank you for the Courage to bring up a subject that's been ignored and helping others.

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, thanks so much Barb. Stay tuned for the update with Hildy and Dave and thanks for watching. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas!

[@tolyachandler4906]

😮😢😢😢This channel is soooo needed!

[@RalphsPier1961]

These people did not deserve ANY of these issues! Keep em coming Liz! Winnebago made in Iowa, I've been there, not as NICE as they claim to be.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you so. much for your support. Stay tuned.

[@henrymorgan3982]

Any moisture in you rv is not good. Let alone a brand new one. I would DEMAND a NON LEAKING new model that does not leak. Period. Electronic problems will haunt this vehicle for its and your lifetime. If that does not work lawyer up and have the lawyer write them a letter. Nobody HAS to move until litigation is knocking at their door. I really like that you have the dealership side of the story included. It makes a "balanced" argument. I love these videos Liz! Thank you!

[@LizAmazing]

This is a very good comment, thanks so much for your wise words, Henry!

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

I am trying

[@miguelnegrete8883]

Mine a brand new 22 COACHMAN Freelander was nice, shiney and neat until I took it to Colorado Springs, the jacks would not open,shower and kitchen leaked ,on the way thru San Antonio the moulding on front part of the RV started flying off it was just half inch piece plastic press in the moulding track it dried and flew off flapping on the driver side n into traffic smacking cars,water was leaking so we kept the slides closed n sleped in front it was total disaster outing .YOU WONT KNOW ALL THESE CRAP UNTIL YOU GO ON AN OUTING AND TO TOP IT ALL THIS COACHMAN FREELANDER WAS NOT EQUIPPED WITH A SPARE TIRE.I FOUND OUT THE WHEEL IS ABOUT $500.00 BUCKS N TIRE ANTHER $180.00 .LUCKILLY WE DID HAD A LOW AIR WARNING BUT NO BLOW OUT .MAKE SURE YOU REQUEST YOUR SPARE TIRE BEFORE YOU SIGN ANY EXIT DOCUMENTS OR YOULL be IN DIPP DOODOO.

[@willowadams4234]

I know this couple IRL. They are amazing, kindhearted, lovely humans. Unbelievably rotten experience! The company should be held accountable & return the full price of purchase + interest. Better call Saul!

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

❤

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

Thank you Willow!!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for this! I am hoping for a happy outcome for them.

[@kandyhays4787]

Liz, thank you for doing these kinds of posts. I’m a 67 year old single female traveler and had my many issues with SkyRiver RV in Santa Maria CA, central coast CA. Had many issues with my first travel trailer, traded it in after less then a year, second one not going well also. Had an inspection, after the fact, but they are working on the list. Also I have issues with them on their RV Tech hourly rate when the “Tech” is nothing more then a “handyman.

[@zLigHt44]

They should just change the name from Tech to,sealer application expert.

[@LizAmazing]

Oh my gosh, so frustrating. Thanks for sharing your experience, Kandy. Stay tuned for an update on this situation.

[@liaodesign]

I also bought my rv at Skyriver but at Pismo beach location I have my issue with my rv but the service manage there Kyle is truly helping with customer issues there.

[@leonardfleming723]

Wow, I'm glad I found this channel. I've been looking at 5th wheels for permanent living for a while, but after watching a bunch of your videos I'm not so sure now. Thanks Liz, you probably saved me from a lot of misery by the sounds of it.

[@haletotheadventure]

Thanks for what you are doing! The RV community appreciates it!

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you so very much for your support! Stay tuned!

[@home-powersystems7782]

Congratulations Liz, you are one of a few.

[@LizAmazing]

Aww, thank you! Glad you are here!

[@billkop3717]

Congratulations Liz on your 100.000 viewers I had no doubt that you would get there, and your videos are eye openers it very sad that people have to continue to have so many problems, and spend money and time on these issues when they should be enjoying their travels, thanks for the heads up on these issues Liz you are amazing and Beautiful, from Montana I send you best wishes and Happy RV trails, stay safe out Liz!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much, Bill! Lucky you to live in one of my favorite states. Sure appreciate your support and good wishes. Merry Christmas and see you in the next video.

[@wwolfdogs]

Winnebago is absolutely correct, Water and particle board go together splendidly.

[@LizAmazing]

Oh goodness. Add to that wood rot and mold and electrical problems!

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

Haha

[@theresajoyce7589]

It’s great that Winnebago is working to fix this but honestly, I still wouldn’t want that vehicle back. What about black mold? Even if the leaks are fixed, mold could still be growing behind the seals. These continued problems are ticking time off of your warranties. If you decide to keep the RV, get your warranty time back. It obviously came off the assembly line with these issues. Good luck!🍀🍀🍀

[@djsi38t]

As long as the area can be dried completely mold won't be a problem..

[@theresajoyce7589]

@@djsi38t And how would you check that this was done? Like I said, I wouldn’t want that vehicle back. It’s a lemon.

[@bikingmomma524]

@@djsi38t I have to disagree with you about the drying mold issue. Stachyboytris "black" mold does not need a wet environment to grow (as well as many other types of mold), even though it loves moisture and flourishes into giant, smelly, inches thick mats when it has a water supply, it still grows and spreads in dry conditions too. I had a hail damaged roof that leaked and dried, leaked and dried. Our insurance company said there was no hail damage. We had children and pets getting sick constantly with allergies, skin rashes, sinus infections, bronchitis, etc... Then we found out we had black mold in our walls, insulation, and air ducts. There were no rain events in our walls, but it got there from when the rain had intruded from the storm damaged roof. It was a couple years after the bad storm that we found the living, growing, and spreading mold in a humidity and environment controlled (AC and heat) house that had to be gutted and rebuilt. It was actually recommended that we knock down the house and build a new one. That was not possible for us so it was gutted. I can only believe that the RV should be gutted to the frame and rebuilt before the threat of mold is gone.

[@LizAmazing]

I agree, Theresa. Not just mold, but rust, wood rot, and electrical problems. If they total a car if the water gets into electrical they should do the same thing here. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!

[@rmanbike]

There are some RV manufacturers that make a one piece fiberglass shell. No seams.

[@edithp.7213]

Love what you’re doing Liz. These people need help.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much for cheering me on, Edith. Enjoy your weekend and see you next time.

[@jamesgilhooly1326]

Liz, you are the only Big Voice out there....and these Company's / Winabago needs to give them a Brand new unit..

[@glenncastia]

Like that you are doing these videos. These RV companies need to be exposed because the reality is they CAN and SHOULD be doing much better and much more than they are.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you! More to come, a LOT more. I sure appreciate your support so thank you so much for being here. See you next month with more videos. Happy holidays, Allan!

[@mgv00]

I have a friend this exact model. It was a “showroom“ model that the dealer took to RV shows. The first time she hooked it up to a water supply, she came back after on hour with water all over the floor. She also had the parking brake problem. Mercedes had to reprogram it. Liz & Paul- I’m headed to St Augustine for a week of cycling

[@LizAmazing]

OOh, I hope you had fun on your bike trip!!!

[@kechkaren]

I panicked when I accidentally spilled a small pot of water on the floor! NO water dripping, leaking, of any kind is acceptable any where in a RV considering how they’re made!!!!

[@LizAmazing]

Yeah, I've always heard water is the enemy for RVs. Thanks for your comment.

[@frankyancy1347]

So glad to have sold ours....once the problems begin they don't end, and good luck getting repaired especially a MB out on the road. Plan like them on being towed.

[@LizAmazing]

You are so right. An oldie but goodie is the way to go these days. Thanks for watching.

[@sheryldye4259]

Years ago when we got our Jayco used, we went camping with a group. We had no heat at night. A friend looked at it and it was not even hooked up from the factory. He knew what he was doing and fixed it for us. We had a nice time camping with all of them and warm.

[@LizAmazing]

Wow, thanks for your comment, Sheryl! Glad it was an easy fix.

[@SongoftheBride]

Your channel has truly blossomed. I am all for exposing things like this and you've hit the nail right on the head. Keep going in your efforts, Liz, and thank you for filling this amazing need!

[@LizAmazing]

Aww, thanks so much for your support. I really appreciate that!

[@Starsnu1]

Thank you, Liz for this channel. After watching many of your videos and others like it, I have concluded that the potential heartache and frustration with many of these campers will keep me from buying one for awhile. I'll keep watching to see if indeed quality improves, cut it seems like since the pandemic, the numerous issues folks have with today's campers seems excessive and cost prohibitive.

[@LizAmazing]

Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.

[@seabeevet9285]

Another good one Liz!!! Thanks so much for exposing these crappy rigs and giving these poor folks a mouth piece!!

[@LizAmazing]

You are so welcome! Thanks for your support.

[@wwolfdogs]

Winnebago's now come standard with a complementary assortment of buckets.

[@LizAmazing]

Ha! It's such a shame. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update.

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

True

[@railroad9000]

Also in various colors to match the decor!

[@sylviaisgod6947]

Throw in a bilge pump and I'm in

[@ralphp3057]

Its ridiculous for that CEO to say it probably will leak ! What ! It’s so sad people are getting ripped off ! Congratulations on 100 k Liz .😁👍

[@cindyfavorite195]

We need to post this everywhere we can. Any high ranking officer of any company who says a leak “here or there” is acceptable, when I paid more for the camper than my home, is not acceptable. This needs to be spread far beyond camper’s channels, I fear for the safety of the thousands of delivery trucks and emergency vehicles these same manufacturers are building.

[@LizAmazing]

Yes indeed! So crazy that he said that. But that's what he said! Thanks for helping me get to 100k, Ralph! So happy you are here. Thanks also for watching and see you in the next video.

[@TKSung]

As much as I'm tempted, this is exactly why I'm NOT buying Revel or Launch. (Well, at least one of the reasons). I'll stick to a lifted hybrid awd minivan and then check into a hotel when I need luxury. Liz, you are doing a great service not only to the public, but also to the whole RV industry by bringing these stories to the public.

[@throdown117]

Coachmen sprinter rvs suck too. Terrible quality.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much for your support! Definitely take your time and do the research to be sure you're getting a good floor plan. Join forums to get the inside scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Thanks for watching!

[@charlottelavalette8236]

What a great service you giving to RV owners . Like I have said before we no longer camp but love love watching your channel. Have a great weekend 🐼

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, thanks Charlotte. Hugs to you! Have a great weekend as well.

[@athenasword8312]

This is a good service you're providing to highlight these horror stories. It underscores my belief: buy used. Older quality RVs might not have all the bells and whistles (more things to go wrong) of a new one, but RVs built in the last 5 years are very problematic. I have a 2002 Born Free, a high quality coach. It had 30,000 miles on it when I bought and I've put 25,000 miles on it with zero problems (other than rodents getting in the generator). Zero. If you're buying an RV to travel and have fun does it really matter if there's minor wear and tear? You make it your own.

[@CycleDoc675]

I bought a brand new 2015 Jayco Precept 29UM when the company was still family owned before Thor bought them. It has been as close to flawless as I could’ve ever hoped. I think that was because it was built by a family owned Company with some pride in what they were building. I agree, I would not buy any RV built in the past five years. The C-suite administrators are building these things now and this is what we get.

[@CycleDoc675]

Oh, and those Born Free coaches ARE very nice and well built.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for this! Yes, get an oldie but good AND get an inspection.

[@georgeoconnell8370]

we had tripple e. 28 class c . outstanding 1982 went all ove n.america. alaska twice . never any issues .met the facktory folks . had winterkit instaled . . very fine machine . sold in 2026 now have downsized to roadtrec . also very good . we are truly blessed thank you we camp year round . . thank you so much for your great work . god bless you and best of luck with your great work

[@billcarr6289]

I was looking at a bigger winnebago. This is a game changer.

[@MaryandTheJeepCycle]

Your videos are as amazing as you Liz!! CONGRATULATIONS ON 100k!!

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, Mary, thanks so much for your support! I definitely feel like I am on a mission. Thanks for being here!

[@jrkung1901]

I love what you are doing. This really puts the spotlight on dealers and manufacturers. I love how you're getting all sides of the story and trying to be as neutral as possible. Without this, it would be so much easier to ignore people who purchased lemons, but with videos like this, you really push them to ensure companies who claim customer satisfaction is a top priority really are a top priority. Thank you so much for the work you do it benefits the entire RV community.

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

We are so grateful for the help!

[@LizAmazing]

Thank YOU so much for your support and kind words. If you haven't already, please subscribe. And thanks for watching.

[@irenehinojosa6629]

I hope they buy it back. Then Winnebago can look at what is wrong with the coach and see what they are doing wrong in the build.

[@judyalden7183]

It’s the careless workmanship of the line workers. Thank you for this timely video the night before our purchasing the same year and model. 😅

[@LizAmazing]

I think it's a top down problem. The mfrs should never let poor quality leave the factory. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the outcome.

[@Alzheimers-camper]

Awesome video Liz. I have a Winnebago travel trailer that is at the 2nd dealership, Tuesday will make 4 months at a dealer for repairs of us owning less than 5 months. It’s absolutely sickening.

[@LizAmazing]

Wow, I am so sorry to hear this. If it's a 2022 or newer, send me an email if you want to share your story. That might light a fire under the powers that be. [e-mail]

[@wjborek]

We are on our second Winnebago View. Our first was a 2009, had issues with water intrusion with it. It was the skylight, but most of the problem was after a hurricane. We live in Florida. Hurricanes strong wind and heavy rain can cause issues. I tried to seal it myself but was never able to get a complete seal so I finally just sealed up the skylight, we never opened the skylight anyway so it didn’t matter. We now have a 2021 View, different model then the one shown here, but we have had no problems with water intrusion. We have had some minor problems, but all were easy to resolve. My recommendation would be to take it directly to Winnebago for them to resolve the problems. When I’ve talked to Winnebago support, they have always been vey helpful.

[@LizAmazing]

Good to know. In this case they contacted Winnebago many times before having their issues resolved. And so happy to hear you've got a good Winnebago! Thanks for watching.

[@wjborek]

It turns out the problem with the skylight was the hinges to the cover leaked. This was not a problem at the beginning. The final solution was to use Eternabond tape to seal the skylight. Eternabond tape is the best permanent seal. Winnebago now provides a port on the roof to feed wires through so you don’t have to drill a hole in the roof when adding external tools to the roof such as the WeBoost which we added.

[@dandydon6049]

Nice to see you’re showing both sides of your wonderful lifestyle Liz. Very few of us could afford the way you live or even want to.

[@LizAmazing]

Really? I find RV life very affordable. I did two videos about that recently. One where you can camp for seven months with access to water and a dump station for a total of $180 and one where you can camp in campgrounds for an average of just $2 a night. Here are the links: Camp for seven months for a total of $180: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmbJY36ejbSpqLs Camp for just $2 a night average: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZqzpYqto610fs0 Thanks for watching!

[@c.p.1688]

Nail on the hear! You’re doing such an Amazing thing. Thank you for what you are doing!

[@LizAmazing]

Aww, thanks so much for your support! I'm glad you are here.

[@airstreamletsgo]

The RV community really needs to rally together to get lemon laws going in this country for the RV industry. They have them for cars and they need them for RV’s!

[@LizAmazing]

Yes indeed! It's time for sure. Thanks for watching, Melanie, and stay tuned for the update with Hildy and Dave.

[@johnmoirano5221]

Every time I take a shower 🚿 😩 my levelers go crazy 🤪 and play music 🎶

[@kaypee65]

I was deliberating between a Leisure Travel Van and a Winnebago View. Neil at Ultramobility told me there is no comparison in quality. The LTVs are really a much better build.

[@joelmeriwether3480]

I have owned 14 motorhomes since 1970. Maybe 5 of them were acceptable, 2 Winnebagos were awful. One a diesel pusher had s black water leak that could not be detected and black water migrated throughout the entire coach under the flooring but above the subfloor. The stink was worse than the worse nasty gas station restroom you've ever been in. In most states, the lemon law covers chassis defects not the RV portion (up fit). It's usually the upfit that is junk. I finally had to go to the annual RV dealer show in Louisville and track down the President if Winnebago to get the unit bought back. Never got to use it and list money on insurance, storage, and fuel driving it to the dealer. Another Winnebago Cambria had to many problems to mention. It took over a year to get them fixed. I had Airstream before Thor bought them and it was great. I had a Forest River Sunseeker that was great, and a Forester that was very good. I had 3 Coachman units that were leakers. I look at units built from 2021 on and they are total junk. Poorly constructed, crappy materials, and then the poor dealers have to fix this junk. It's unfair to the dealers. Most small family dealerships are great and try hard to please you. The mega dealer groups pretty much take your money and say bye and good luck. One big one in Central Florida sells to you and hopes your hometown dealer will finish putting the thing together. Another super large flag bearing dealer is a cluster of snakes. I would love to buy a motorhome right now but there is nothing out there worth dumping that much money into. The states need to all tighten up their rv lemon laws. When your trailer frame bends or breaks, the dealer and manufacturer blame Lippert Industries. Well, I didn't but a frame, I bought a fifth wheel. I'm not going to go fight with Lippert. The manufacturer of my rv should sue Lippert and handle that fight. Same deal with the appliances, ac units etc. If they go bad, it was the manufacturer's decision to buy the crap they put in my camper because it was $5 cheaper. Given the ridiculous markup in rvs, the customer shouldn't come out on the short end of the deal. Come on State Atty Generals, get tough with these manufacturers and send a message that build it right or refund the entire expense of the buyer owning it including sales tax, storage, lack of use, initial cost and fees. If everyone just stops buying for a year, these mega manufacturers who have bought up all the good companies that did have pride in their products, might get the message and again build quality rvs with decent warranties on the entire coach and all components. I have had a great Jayco. The Bontrager family built great RVs. Now it's Thor😢. I had a great Tiffin Allegro. Bob Tiffin took care of his owners and built a great unit. Thor bought it.😢 Airstream great. Thor bought it😢. Newmar was exceptional. Winnebago bought it😢. Most of the really good manufacturers are now owned by Thor, Winnebago and Forest River😢😢😢😢. There's your problem. They buy the same ole junk and put it in all of them to save money. But with all that savings I sure have not seen any price reductions. RVs are so overpriced it's a joke.

[@LizAmazing]

Yes, so many issues. You're right it's more than one problem so more than one solution. Thanks for sharing. And for watching.

[@darrylt5300]

Great job bringing the RV issues to the surface, I have a 3120RL Montana and every time I take it out and tow it I worry about the frame flex issue that the are having with 5th wheels

[@LizAmazing]

Oh my goodness. So sorry to hear that, and that is an issue with many of them. Thanks for watching, Darryl.

[@TheSRMproject]

Congratulations on the 100k subs! Love these real world videos.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you so much, and I so appreciate you being here. Have a good weekend!

[@jackpalumbo6949]

Liz you had a better channel when you n Paul were together, you appeared much happier then when I go back n review. Your older videos, I still watch on occasion

[@LizAmazing]

Glad you found something you like, thanks Jack!

[@erichrogers4856]

I’ve been wanting to get an rv since my wife is retired and I’m punching next year. But, the more research I do the less I am inclined to blow money on substandard garbage. Might end up buying a used van and build it out myself. Thanks for all you work and info. Invaluable

[@patriley9449]

Congrats on your 100,000 subscribers. What a milestone ! You deserve it for providing so much useful information and helping so many people. I have been seriously thinking about a Winnebago class B, but after hearing this, I am having doubts. If this company can't make a product that leaks ZERO water when new, how bad is everything else in the unit. Disgraceful. This problem could have easily been detected before the sale by running a hose over the RV for a few minutes.

[@jamesjoyce2528]

DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.

[@LizAmazing]

I'm also highlighting good mfrs and happy buyers of those RVs. Thanks for watching and stay tuned. And thanks for helping me get to 100k!

[@banditkitty2743]

this is horrible, especially based upon the high cost of rvs. They really need to buy the rv back and give these people a new one. Thanks for doing what you are doing, it is definitely helping and educational. Have you heard anything about the AEONrv (the new off road model)?

[@jamesjoyce2528]

DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.

[@LizAmazing]

I have not heard about the AEONy. Overall, it's not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.

[@spreadlovewithcat]

I had a 1978 truck and camper and things still worked in the camper but now I'm waiting for something to go wrong with this new used motorhome

[@gmctech]

Maybe cover that thing in high glycerine soap and water solution and blast high volumes of air into the sealed cabin and watch for bubbles maybe? It's a lot of work to set up but you'll find your leaks pretty quickly... In a passenger vehicle we do that all the time by just running the car and using its own HVAC fan, but in an RV you'll need to rig up an auxillary fan to compensate for the large cubic foot volume.

[@LizAmazing]

There is a leaktest machine, surprised this dealership doesn't use one. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update.

[@ricki7187]

Thanks for this Liz! We were waffling between Tiffen and Winnebago and this closed the deal.

[@michellefitz4287]

Tiffens are really special. God choice!

[@LizAmazing]

Tiffen was bought out by Thor. My best advice is to go used, join the Facebook group for the floorplan to get the inside scoop from owners, and get an inspection. Best of luck!

[@cris_miko]

Thank you, you are amazing! This particular episode is very disturbing. I'll be buying a class C in the next 3-4 months and I had been sold on Winnebago for quality control and customer service. Not anymore!!!

[@LizAmazing]

I'm sure hoping Winnebago sees this as a wakeup call. They can't possibly expect to stay in business if this keeps up. Thanks for watching, Cris.

[@jeannealex2560]

Hi Liz.. You are doing a great job and bringing this To the attention of people... Please don't stop... We have been considering selling our camper but now I'm starting to rethink the situation... Might be best to hang on to it... So sorry to hear about all these people with these bad situations... Nobody has any pride anymore.... Thanks for the video you stay safe...J&A

[@michellefitz4287]

Definitely keep your RV if you can. We’re more determined than ever to hold onto our 2017 Keystone Alpine 5th wheel. Good luck!

[@LizAmazing]

Hi J & A! Yes, you are wise to hold onto what you know, especially if you are happy with the build quality. Thanks for watching, and for checking in!

[@Invertmini1212]

My brother bought a $140k Mercedes Revel Winnebago and I swear he was always taking it into the dealership for just about everything and then came the recalls.. It was eye opening.

[@LizAmazing]

Oh no. Sorry to hear this. Thanks for your comment, and for watching.

[@Boxxkarr]

We have a 2022 Jayco Jayflight 264BH, purchased new in Feb 2023. It has no pull outs, and so far no leaking problems from rain. The Black Tank rinse system does leak water under the sink, and I haven't had a chance to try to track it down. We were considering getting Winni, but now I'm happy with our choice! I hope yall can get these problems worked out! I thought Winnebago had a Sterling product, and reputation!

[@LizAmazing]

Glad you've got a good one. No slides is a good thing. Thanks for watching.

[@adventurousspirit6628]

Congratulations on 100K subs.🎊🎉💞 This series on RV's as been excellent, thanks for exposing these issues so potential buyers will have a better understanding of what they could be getting themselves into Take care!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so very much for your support and cheering me on! Merry Christmas and see you in the next video!

[@garyp9906]

Hi Liz, Gary from Kansas here. Another awesome video! I really feel sorry for these people. Imagine spending that much money only to have the camper sitting in the repair shop almost from day one. I would be livid! Keep up the great work. I believe your videos are getting out there to all the manufacturing facilities. They are going to have to do something or eventually class action law suits will start. Unreal how they make these things. I always thought Winnebago was a great make. Not sure now. Looking forward to next weeks video, girl!!

[@LizAmazing]

Hi Gary! Thanks so much for your comment. I sure appreciate your support in this series. As you may know, I am taking off the month of December. Thanks for being here, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

[@garyp9906]

@@LizAmazing Happy Holidays to you too, girl! Talk to you next year!!

[@Tatiacha]

wow I can't believe they said that about water. Pleasure Way in Canada has a water booth, they pressure water check every RV before it leaves to be sure there are no leaks! There is zero excuse for all of them not having that instead of these endless leaking issues, let alone claiming it is somehow normal.

[@southernsunshine6154]

Loved my Pleasure Way. Best RV I ever owned.

[@LizAmazing]

That's good to know. Thanks for watching

[@jamespavlinik6481]

2017 Winnebago Forza 36G diesel pusher. What we found was the best course of action for warranty issues was to go directly to the factory in Forest City, Iowa. The factory techs took care of everything except one item. This included coplete reupholstery of the fake leather seating (bonded leather)

[@henryannis8752]

When did Winnebago fix your fake leather seating? I was told this year it was my problem even though they admit they received a bad batch of material at the time mime was built in 2016.

[@jamespavlinik6481]

two years into the three-year warranty at the factory @@henryannis8752

[@LizAmazing]

I think that's a good tip. Thanks for this, James!

[@browntrousersmoment]

I was looking in to buying a Winnebago sometime in the future but the response from Director of Winnebago changed my plans. Thanks Dean for heads up :)

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

Unbelievable!!! They just refuse to do the right thing. They want me to ride around in a water logged compromised vehicle...I'm astounded

[@LizAmazing]

Yeah, Dean's email was really surprising. I hope Winnebago decides to do right by Dave and Hildy. Thanks for watching.

[@yyt77658]

Thank you Liz this is the value of social media to help the average person fight corporate greed

[@filomenaregan1537]

Oh I am so sorry for you folks! To spend that kind of money and have these problems is heartbreaking. I hope you can get these issues fixed and get on the road.

[@LizAmazing]

yes indeed, thanks for your kind words. Stay tuned for the update.

[@bobhobart3613]

I’m going to Scream!! For you Liz! How can you take these issues without.... well. Just feel so bad for these people!! It’s great i think, that you are involved and many many dealers and manufacturers are going to start recognizing the “ LIZ AMAZING” name. We sure do!! Stay safe, God Bless 🙏🏾🙏🏾👍👍 See ya next week!!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so very much Bob! I'm so glad I have you in my corner. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

[@bobhobart3613]

Hmmm. Just going to take the comment as a sweet Christmas and New Year card. Happy Holidays Liz!! 😃🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@LizAmazing]

@@bobhobart3613 And sorry for the delayed response, I got 4600 comments last month. I want to answer them all but it takes a while. I hope all is well and I’ll see you after the holidays.

[@bobhobart3613]

@@LizAmazing Enjoy Liz!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@wolfshurtleff1833]

Liz- you are doing a real impressive job. Giving people a voice. And putting the finger in the wound. We guess that your work helps everybody who is in the game: the customer, the dealer and the maker. I will repeat what we mentioned in our video with you - just talk to your customers and help with all the power and knowledge that you, the dealer & the maker, have. Mistakes happen, things break and lemons do exist. Just HELP your customer when the unfortunate happens. That is what our dealer, Bish's in Idaho Falls, is doing right now 👍🏻💪🏻 and did along the line. Thanks Liz for your beautiful intentions. Yours Wolfie & Brook

[@LizAmazing]

Hi you two! You are so right. Communication is key. I sure hope for a happy outcome with your trailer. I think about you often. Thanks for your comment and kind words! Merry Christmas!

[@binglassiter1732]

Thanks for the whole series Liz .

[@LizAmazing]

You are so welcome. I've got some happy buyers and a good mfr coming up, see you then!

[@johngaither9263]

I recommend you use the same parameters for determining a Lemon Law vehicle the states that have such a law use. After three unsuccessful attempts to remedy an obvious defect in materials or workmanship of the vehicle the manufacturer is compelled to buy back said vehicle. You will need an attorney, but his fees are also recoverable. You could set a precedent for RV's.

[@LizAmazing]

Yes. Thanks for your comment, John, and stay tuned.

[@martyi398]

Wow you have to feel for these folks getting the run around by dealer service and manufacturer! We’ve only experienced minor issues with our 5 RV’s that we’ve owned in the past 30 years, although they were all travel trailers used for part time camping and the dealer service we’ve had has been good! We have secured inside storage for our new travel trailer and truck combo nowadays, that will help eliminate sun fade, tire degradation, bird droppings, hail damage etc while not in use, as stated earlier we’re lifelong part time campers!

[@LizAmazing]

That's awesome that you've had such good luck, Marty, and that you are taking such good care of your trailer by keeping it under cover. It's definitely not a good time to buy new so hang onto that!

[@martinhudson8515]

Congratulations on the 100,000 mark. I’m finding across the internet it seems that there is a large number of units and brands across A,B, C class , Fifthwheel or trailer that are having quality issues. I’m tired of hearing the excuses of Covid and suppliers. These are engineering issues and lack of a quality audit being in place during the build. All of these ratings like ISO compliancy mean nothing if they aren’t applied and followed and in some cases workers or supervisors say go ahead with the job and we’ll catch it later. The inspection of new units at the dealership is get glazed over or not done at all. Brands do a great job until they get notoriety and then start cutting corners to say money on what got them where they are. It’s really said.

[@LizAmazing]

It sure is, Martin. Stay tuned as my next video will feature happy buyers and a quality RV mfr.

[@carloseperezmontes2462]

I’m a certified RV Inspector, RV owners since 2015, and everything coming out from the factory have a lot of problems. Appears that quality control is something from the past. Stop buying units because “they look beautiful and the Salesperson was so nice…” use common sense and good judgment expending your money. Don’t get robbed with sweet words.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for this, Carlos. Most RVs coming out of Elkhart are suspect these days.

[@jimsteinway695]

I think in today’s market you better go into the RV world with an inspector, and a lawyer to inspect the contract. Steve Lehto on KZbin did several videos on how NOT TO BUY S NEW RV!!! He’s a lawyer. The contract has disclaimers to keep the consumer from suing the dealer. You CAN sue the manufacturer but the contract says you must SUE IN THE STATE OF INDIANA. There the laws are skewed in the favor of the manufacturers. A good lawyer is $300 an hour. Your time and money is worth A LOT MORE!!!. So listen to Liz and also get a lawyer to inspect your contract BEFORE signing!! This industry is completely out of control. They need to have their noses put to the Grindstone. People paying a half million dollars for a money pit is ridiculous!!

[@ginathacker6207]

Mine is a C-Class Jayco 34’ on a 2018 Ford 450 Super Duty chassis with 45K miles. It’s been great in every manner. Greatest fear is WATER intrusion, which I have not had. Once any of these get “wet”…they are toast-MOLD cannot be stopped! Aside, 5 dogs, that is nuts!

[@LizAmazing]

So glad you've got a good one. 2018 was a good year for the RV industry for the most part. Things have definitely gone down hill since then. Thanks for watching and happy travels.

[@ogremgtow990]

This is why I will build my own cargo conversion.

[@LizAmazing]

That's the way! Thanks for watching!

[@koertdubois6781]

The surprising thing is that Winnebago doesn't have a "leak specialist" on staff who can recommend specific troubleshooting steps. And the dealer should have more sophisticated ways of testing for leaks besides spraying the camper down with a garden hose.

[@LizAmazing]

You're right about that. I think the dealer should have sent it right back to Winnebago for them to fix. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update.

[@garybaldwin1061]

I've lost total interest with owning ANY RV ever. Thanks for your channel. We will drive our super reliable passenger suv and stay at hotels and camp.

[@faxbullog8361]

Me too!

[@LizAmazing]

Sorry to hear this, Gary. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.

[@jamesjoyce2528]

DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.

[@robertbarron7017]

@@jamesjoyce2528 , YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bensatterwhite5694]

We got lucky and our camper flooded and was totaled. We went on a road trip afterward and stayed in a motel right close to our destination. It was the best vacation I had in years. I didn’t have to tow that thing all over getting 9 miles to the gallon on my trip. And I don’t have payments on it all year while it’s not in use. The only thing we had to take was our luggage and the dog. Much more relaxing.

[@foodpedlarofficial2019]

Dealing with the same thing with the aftermath of an improperly sealed replacement windshield by Safelite. Water got behind the dashboard in my Toyotoa Corolla and now it's an electrical nightmare. Safelite is beyond slow to respond so it's nice to hear that @ least Winnebago and the dealer are working with you. Hang in there!!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for the support and encouragement and good luck with your Corolla.

[@mhdavedmasse1491]

Oh no

[@adamlevine2320]

Congrats on the 100k subs. Thanks for bringing these topics to the forefront. Safe travels

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much, Adam! Glad you are here!

[@johnmoirano5221]

Here's where you're at. Camper hell on Friday the 13th

[@billyjackcarter]

Wow. Thank you for this! I was seriously considering the Navion, the sister of the View - it was my top contender. I was hoping to make a decision this weekend and possibly even complete a purchase this coming week. This is definitely puts the dream on pause until I see the followup video. Also, very disappointing as I would have expected better quality from Winnebago, especially on a model, such as this, which has been out for awhile and should have all the issues worked out. Also, note to self: make sure the inspector water tests the vehicle. 🙏🏼

[@LizAmazing]

Hi Billy! Yes, I love the Navion too and almost bought one. But as a fulltimer I realized the CCC was too low for me. They sure are nice, though. Thanks for watching.

[@leighsirvent654]

I’m so sorry for these people. We have had a Winnebago View for5 years and are very happy with it. It seems like since Covid, the quality of all rvs are not what they used to be. I hope this couple can get resolution. If I were them, I’d push for getting a different unit, there’ll be many problems down the road with all the water damage. Someone in the assembly line wasn’t doing they’re job.

[@LizAmazing]

I agree. Quality has gone down AND they need a new unit. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update.

[@kathrynb4683]

I bought my 2002 National 3 years ago for 18k. 11k miles on it. Never a problem. Always buy tried and true. Great FB group too! 😢 I never would buy new.

[@LizAmazing]

Hang on to that good one! I have a 2005 Alfa. Thanks for your comment and happy travels. See you in the next video.

[@nathannicholas3288]

We have a 2017 Coachmen 5th wheel. Bought it new. Fist time pulling in the rain, there was water on the floor. Took back to dealer and they "fixed" it. Pulled in rain again, floor was wet. I discovered water was coming in under the super slide from spray from the tires. I came up with a plan to seal it. Called dealer and told him, and he asked what I needed. He sent me everything I asked for...at no charge... and I did the repair myself. Haved towed in pouring rain many times and totally dry. Its our 4th rv and we have learned that for us, at least, it's good to have some "fixing" skills. I hope this couple gets their situation resolved.

[@louiserobson9366]

I had the same problem with my Sprinter class c. They came out and fixed it. After that I realized that once the e brake is on you have to pull the handle up slightly before pushing the button to release it. Never had any water problems with our Jayco.

[@Gemini-kl1wn]

Sorry to hear this couple is having problems with their Winnebago. We have bought 3 new Winnebagos, including a View, and they were mostly trouble free. We did have an issue with the Navion's jack stabilizers alarm going off when the sensor got wet when driving in the rain.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you for sharing this, and for watching. Stay tuned.

[@michaelgarcia8271]

Another great video Liz. Congrats on getting to 100K!!!, Nice balance from a concerned dealer. Keep up the great work and lets get you to 200K!

[@LizAmazing]

I so appreciate your support, Michael! Feel free to share this video to help get it out there.

[@jefferyrohloff9607]

Great job Liz. How long before this industry listens to the end-user. I feel the pain of the folks going through these issues. I hope industry leaders are listening, but being someone who visits the Indiana area often, and hears the stories of failures, I fear they are not.

[@LizAmazing]

I am sure this series is starting to get noticed by the powers that be. I hope they are delivering a much needed wakeup call for sure. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update, Jeffery!

[@2SHARP4UIQ150]

I remember visiting one of this rv dealers and they tried selling me a lemon while testing I found so many issues I told the salesman to off. I builded my own.