Lizzo In Massive Trouble After SA Allegations & Lawsuit

[@echo_lens]

Going from obese to overweight is a huge achievement Ethan just kind of glossed over. Proud of him for that from someone who had struggles with my weight in the past.

[@diositoquerido]

❤

[@MeanStreamFraudCast]

😂

[@zacharymcneely6039]

😂😂😂😂

[@Iuxinterior]

he really does look a lot different i hadn’t realized but he’s looking good

[@Lucina..]

Same! And I’m so happy that he did it for himself: with the added bonus that it took away the main criticism people throw at him 😂

[@ashrafredzuan2426]

Can't wait for the flute non-apology apology video.

[@RoosaM88]

It would be crazy if she did that. Lol

[@DetectiveStablerSVU]

Nah she's going to use a historically important violin. It's more fitting.

[@Serenity888Meow]

🎶🚂 T O X I C G O S S I P T R A I N 🚂🎶

[@Jamie_Rosex0]

Lmfao omg

[@kobiefrancois3670]

PAHAHAHAHAHA I'm so glad this is the top comment

[@Jenn-ie5vf]

The problem with the nude cabaret is that they weren't warned ahead of time. If you're going to take someone somewhere like that, you need to let them know where they are going so they have the choice to go or not. But that seems to be with the problem with Lizzo, she isn't giving her staff any choices. Whether it be that or using the restroom when needed

[@Mooseinclusivity]

Lizzo better get that flute out and start her apology video

[@watersfakeplants]

🪈all aboard 🚂

[@LazarheaD]

@@watersfakeplants The thickset porcine train...

[@clevermissfox]

@@watersfakeplantsBahaha I think all apology videos must have a ukelele from now on or a flute will do in this case…

[@Morale_Booster]

Hahahaha

[@kkistbh824]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@chummymummy]

As an exprofessional dancer, hearing that a dancer soiled herself in a rehearsal out of fear is so horrifying to hear. Imagine how much other awful stuff would be happening when grown adults arent allowed to go to the bathroom

[@Natashajb]

She was allowed to. She just had anxiety that she may be looked over if she did go for a break. No one actually said they couldn't......

[@Natashajb]

Very big difference

[@xtalm1]

@@Natashajb Yes they were ‘allowed’ but the work environment was toxic as hell & the dancers were basically bullied into being so anxious and afraid that they didn’t even feel like they could ask or use the restroom. That in itself is a huge issue. Also, being a professional dancer and being expected to give your all dancing for 12 hours straight? That’s insane and awful working conditions.

[@PoppyUr]

@@NatashajbIt’s a problem that she felt a very real chance of being dismissed because of going on a toilet break

[@Natashajb]

@@PoppyUr then that's on her. Full victim mode blaming what YOU think on someone else.

[@kobiefrancois3670]

From Colleens ukulele train to Ariana dating married spongebob and ruining a family to Lizzo being sued What a time to be alive.

[@ramyarao4499]

im sorry but "Ariana dating married spongebob" is too funny lmfao

[@80sbrunnette]

I was going to say the same thing, so much is happening LOL

[@himesilva]

You literally named the only three H3 videos I've watched in the past month lmao

[@Jonqen]

Dont compare that slime to spongebob 😂

[@rebeccah4177]

Colleen does not belong in this list. She gets to sit in the corner with James and Dobrik

[@GlitzPixie]

Bro soiling your pants in this scenario isn't funny. Imagine how scared you have to be as an adult to do something that publicly embarrassing

[@xobsidianonyxx5898]

Just the fact she felt UNCOMFORTABLE to go relieve herself is concerning and tells a story

[@aesdiablo]

Agreed. I can’t imagine how traumatizing that experience was. Very insensitive of them

[@mads597]

I can’t imagine living through it and then having to risk hearing public commentary giggling about your traumatic humiliation

[@Static4Thoughts]

@@mads597yeah, glad I’m not the only was thinking this is fucked up.

[@roronoa_raf2201]

Yeah I’ve been there as a child and I can’t imagine being under that kind of duress again in adulthood. It’s incredibly humiliating being in that position

[@elisabethochoa1125]

I get if it was someone who deserved it soiling themselves being funny but I would be absolutely mortified if I’m so fearful of losing my job and I have to use the bathroom so badly that I literally peed myself. Dancing. Like ACTUALLY imagine that. She must have felt so sick to her stomach and then couldn’t take it involuntarily. Holding in your pee that long full bladder hurts. You really gotta imagine the scenario for that dancer and the environment she was in. Was it just her interpretation or did Lizzo create a hostile environment and you don’t want to be blacklisted from the dance community. Based on everything it sounds like the latter. We don’t know the other info but they sound genuinely like pure victims. Let’s not laugh at that.

[@FillyDerpyHooves]

Wah wah waaaah

[@recoveringintrovert717]

​@@FillyDerpyHoovescalm down.

[@nullboy222]

dude the pants shitting thing isn’t funny. that’s genuinely upsetting

[@WheresMyInhaler]

Oh lighten up .

[@likacl]

ethan thinking he insulted the crew by calling lizzo a “giant b” and dan shutting it down is the funniest shit i’ve seen in a while.

[@DetectiveStablerSVU]

It's clear that Ethan was referring her weight in a negative way. It was a negative comment to ridicule her based on her weight. You and Dan might think that's okay but it didn't make the fact that he did it not true.

[@likacl]

@@DetectiveStablerSVUthat’s not how anyone interpreted it, crew or myself. he felt the need to correct what he said because it could be misconstrued but it wasn’t. ethan was just being overly cautious from what i could tell.

[@kgsassy]

​@@DetectiveStablerSVUdude, you're reaching.

[@nichellekmalvous6688]

i hope you dont dislocate your arm with reaching that hard

[@Ultamanda444]

@@DetectiveStablerSVUlmfao bro people still think Ellen was a huge bitch after her allegations and she is a skinny woman , why would this be related to her weight ?

[@tylerhackner9731]

She clearly doesn’t have boundaries. I liked her and her music, and I defended her when people said she was doing too much. Clearly I was wrong.

[@buffy6673]

I don’t think it’s so black and white. You could both be right.

[@Mooseinclusivity]

It’s definitely black and white. She doesn’t have a separation between friendly/drunk girl vibes and work

[@DetectiveStablerSVU]

​@@Mooseinclusivityit's probably harder when your job is to practically tour and party. Not that it's an excuse but it's def more complex than not blurring that line as something like being an accountant

[@phoenixzappa7366]

Working under Lizzo is a toxic work environment. Flattened like a pancake

[@JeremyFerrer]

@@DetectiveStablerSVUher job is to tour. There isn’t a requirement for her to do anything else. There are plenty of artists that tour without doing shit like this.

[@Iuxinterior]

as far as i’m aware the dancer peed herself because they’d been forced to practice for hours and she was afraid to leave so she lost control which is insanely dangerous

[@CreatEr1n]

The lawsuit complaints line up with behavior displayed on her reality show. There was one girl who was uncomfortable exposing herself during the nude photoshoot. She wanted to teach in South Korea and thought the photos would prevent her from acheiving her dream. The photoshoot was framed as a body positivity challenge. She was worried about going against it because that's Lizzo's brand. Everyone pressured her. When she gave in, the producers framed it as a triumphant "she loves her body enough to show it!" moment. She was elimimated right before the finale.

[@clevermissfox]

The other girl uncomfortable w the nude photoshoot is one of the plaintiffs, the one who was pressured to touch the nude performer. In the lawsuit it’s also described that the dance team captain is super Christian and pushed her beliefs on all of them and was super focused on this plaintiffs virginity , even posted on social media about it without permission

[@Trylica]

Makes my blood boil😮

[@RainsCloud777]

Oh WOOOOOWW that’s insane

[@mads597]

A nonstop 12 hour dance audition which doesn’t allocate bathroom or meal breaks is INTENTIONALLY meant to humiliate and dehumanize. Grow up E

[@matttriano]

I cringe when he says stupid shit like this because he's PEOPLE'S DAD

[@Nikkifrom1989]

Who’s dad is he?

[@Jonqen]

I would go to the bathroom

[@yessica4932]

@@matttriano i just know your dad would laugh at someone soiling themself

[@OurLadyOfSorrows4]

@@Nikkifrom1989 His kids lol

[@Static4Thoughts]

She openly supports Chris Brown. Ever since her vid, I disliked her. Im not surprised about her allegations

[@roronoa_raf2201]

Ugh I did not know this 😮

[@EF-kk3vh]

Wait what? When? That’s awful I didn’t know about this

[@clevermissfox]

I watched the reality show and Lizzo def has the Do as I say not as I do and that she expects everyone around her to be yes men, and she has a nasty bully edge for sure. And that’s from her show where she is shown in the best light

[@Trylica]

​@@EF-kk3vhcalled him her fav person😮

[@CS-pl8fc]

​​@@valog93she also hired the same lawyer who defended Chris brown and Bill Cosby

[@mirabelarmstrong8518]

The false imprisonment accusation refers to when one of the dancers filmed something on her phone then was forced to stay in a hotel room while security looked through it to delete it… pretty valid IMO

[@tlangeeful1747]

they already said that in the video like within the first 5 minutes

[@princessnicki63]

they literally just said that LMFAO

[@agirlonearth]

thank you for the explanation, you were faster than the crew sis lmao

[@idilkaraali]

the soiling pants situation is really not that funny

[@WheresMyInhaler]

It’s a little funny

[@apple_far]

You're making fun, but imagine being an adult and thinking you need to pee your pants to keep your job. Amazon delivery drivers do it all the time btw. Bcuz employment is no longer "at will" in this country anymore. That's why your mind jumped to false imprisonment. Bcuz, deep down you subconsciously think it's awful.

[@GlitzPixie]

Yep

[@leahisme3513]

As a teacher I've pissed myself multiple times. It's very embarrassing but I can't just leave a bunch of children alone in a room so... diapers it is.

[@lizzydarkrose]

Really didnt like that 11 minutes of this is just making fun of one of the victims in this scenario. Astronomical L on everyone's part here

[@ciderodd4278]

Why did you watch then

[@alexb2563]

​@@ciderodd4278 ??? they wouldn't have known that that was in the video if they hadn't watched it

[@lizzydarkrose]

@@ciderodd4278 Because I assumed Ethan and the crew would respond with more tact to a situation involving sexual harassment and humiliation? Especially after they literally just platformed victims of another case on the podcast and treated them with respect. I'm a very casual listener, perfectly willing to point out when they're being blatantly hypocritical and shitty.

[@amriddless]

Your title is wrong she is accused of sexual Harrasment, not sexual Assault there's a huge difference

[@cassandraclover9830]

the coercion & forced contact in the amsterdam sex club is actually legally considered assault.

[@Iuxinterior]

it was both

[@gavinocool7]

Telling a professional dancer they're less committed would probably mean their weight vs. their performance, because I highly doubt they'd be lacking in skill if they've gotten to the point of dancing for someone as popular as lizzo

[@helendrew3640]

I disagree, even if you're talented you need to consistently practice hard to give top quality performances. However there may be more context to the comment that we don't know yet 🤷

[@tlangeeful1747]

either way, from the evidence that is present right now, something as baseless as that would never hold up in court and would be useless to even try to prove. hopefully they have more evidence if that's something they'd like to go after.

[@nichellekmalvous6688]

honestly i feel like people should worry about the actual illegal things she did, like sexual harassment/assault and false imprisonment and horrible work load.

[@tlangeeful1747]

@@nichellekmalvous6688 exactly!! who honestly cares if she apparently “fat shamed” her dancers which it literally doesn’t even sound like she did lol like let’s focus on the fact her dancer was so afraid of her she avoided going to the bathroom for so long

[@nichellekmalvous6688]

@@tlangeeful1747 the claim is never gonna hold up in court too, but there's evidence of lizzo talking about the banana incident on an interview saying she "really wanted to experience it". i really could give two shits about her insuiating body shaming when shit like that is on the table. this is literally the FIRST video i saw titled mentioning the SA allegations, everything else is focusing on the body shaming bc lets be honest, people wanted to be PC but still hated her cuz shes fat so now they can jump on it.

[@Mari-pf3cm]

The weight gain thing is normal in the industry, you are expected to maintain the appearance you had when getting hired including weight, visible tattoos, hair color, etc, unless a change is approved. However, Lizzo puts up a facade that she’s going to change the status quo and then doesn’t… very disappointing

[@bad_bau]

Apparently, it's extremely common for dancers to have their "dedication" to their craft questioned just because they gained weight. The fact that Lizzo had publicly commented on her weight gain right before making those comments, which is apparently dancer code for "you've gained weight," certainly isn't a good look. And they're also probably holding back on some details to avoid giving the defense extra time to prepare prior to discovery.

[@sarabear7828]

That’s not how discovery works. The prosecution and defense have to share all information with each other to prepare, there are no surprises

[@bad_bau]

@@sarabear7828 Yea, I know. Nothing in my comment implied otherwise. This video was discussing the initial complaint, which is the filing that officially starts the lawsuit. Once an initial complaint is made, then the defense has to respond to the initial complaint by either answering the complaint or filing a counter-claim. Discovery only starts AFTER the defense has responded. However, the initial complaint does not have to have everything, which is why lawyers often hold some things back until the discovery phase starts (which it hadn't at the point I made my comment). Again, neither side has to start sharing everything yet. If they started sharing everything now, they'd just be giving the other side more time to prepare, which could jeopardize their case. My comment was about the fact that the video was only discussing the initial complaint, which is not required to have everything, so there might be more details that we won't learn UNTIL discovery. Which is why I specifically said "prior to discovery," instead of during or after discovery (prior = before). Hope this helps.

[@GlitzPixie]

Ik this is confirmation bias but despite Lizzo being super likeable I've always gotten really weird insincere vibes from her and this news felt unsurprising

[@chashmal10]

That’s not what confirmation bias is but I get your point.

[@kharonhaden5136]

Ya as the other person said it’s not confirmation bias, which is only looking at information that proves your already existing belief, and it’s hindsight bias, which exactly like it sounds is when you believe that you predicted something after it already happened

[@GlitzPixie]

@@kharonhaden5136 sorry got my phrases mixed up. Hindsight bias

[@chashmal10]

@@kharonhaden5136 but it isn’t necessarily hindsight bias. Not all correct predictions are hindsight bias. Maybe homie just had a good correct hunch. It’s no bias homie is just skilled at detecting bullshit ;). Trust your intuition man!

[@kharonhaden5136]

@@chashmal10 for sure but I mean this person said so themselves that it was a bias so I just wanted to help, especially so that I could feel like my psychology class wasn’t pointless

[@JakeDrives1]

Nude Cabaret is fine when you tell people what they’re showing up to. The allegation is that the hid the nature of the event and people only realized when they arrived. Seems like a lot of sexual deviance surrounding her. Given the movement I’m not surprised. Not a fan of the girl but can’t help but feel like it’s a slight bit of vengeance from her staff for other reasons.

[@lovefool.99]

And under the pretense it was a work event / team building exercise or night with the night out. If people feel uncomfortable - they should be able to say no without their job being on the line and that’s what Lizzo was telling them. If they didn’t go out and party like she wanted they would be fired

[@rachell8661]

I have never liked Lizzo. She has always been so obnoxious, and crass. She has proven she has no respect for others many times.

[@saroona22211]

@@spideronawhiteflagtaylor swift is a white feminist who was dating a racist who she knew was racist, and didn’t care until she had to save her image. camila was exposed for saying the n word and being extremely racist before on tumblr. u are right about all of them LOL

[@ryanpriye1402]

​@@spideronawhiteflagwho tf do you even like?

[@PoppyUr]

Usually I find their videos great but this one was really hard to watch. I just KNOW that if Ethan was in a similar situation to the dancer’s and soiled himself, he would not be finding it funny at all. And yet, he’s laughing multiple times and focussing on that aspect for half the episode, making fun of her embarrassment, rather than discussing the very serious allegations against Lizzo and her dance leader. It felt very “school bully” to me when they all snickered about the poor dancer who was probably exhausted and scared.

[@jennruvalcaba8697]

Hey babe just a reminder that this is a comedy podcast so the angle tends to be comedic many times, even when the topic is more serious. If you can’t handle that then maybe you should look toward the news to get your content! They handle things more gracefully

[@PoppyUr]

@@jennruvalcaba8697 I usually love their videos! I think it’s because mainly they make jokes about the person who is seen as the instigator, not someone caught in the crossfire. It felt different to their usual jokes.

[@ryanpriye1402]

​@@PoppyUryou have to keep in mind he's an entertainer first, don't go in expecting a news show, that's setting yourself up for disappointmet.

[@jennruvalcaba8697]

@@ryanpriye1402 right! Sometimes I don’t agree w/ their takes but it’s supposed to be comedic and it’s Ethan for gods sake. Unless he says something truly out of line I just roll my eyes and move on. He’s edgy and that’s why I like him, so I can’t act surprised when he toes the line.

[@cl34939]

@@jennruvalcaba8697 I think OPs problem is that ethan usually punches up but he was punching down here, and i agree. the idea of a grown person forced to soil themselves for a job is horrifying

[@0blivvy8]

I'm a former competitive dancer and do think the statement about being committed could've easily been about her weight gain. If you gain weight while being a dancer it's generally frowned upon and seen as being lazy, not working hard enough, not practicing often, etc. Plus size dancers can be just as talented, but are still usually seen as less talented, fit, or dedicated than thin dancers. *ETA: Of course it isn't true that plus size dancers aren't working as hard, it's just a common toxic stigma in the dance world.

[@sashatoledo1874]

This is so sad. I saw lizzo in concert and genuinely thought she was a good person. I did not see this happening on my 2023 bingo card 🙃

[@dubletrouble]

Are we really surprised by her antics when she tried to justify wearing a thong to an NBA game?

[@xXxakurokuxXx123]

You’ve been waiting to use that one

[@olive_99]

@@xXxakurokuxXx123yeah because it was gross??

[@augustisthebest1606]

I don't see the correlation

[@dubletrouble]

@@xXxakurokuxXx123 lmao I knew something was wrong with her when she did that, no sane person does that

[@WheresMyInhaler]

@@augustisthebest1606The correlation is wearing a thong at an NBA game is degenerate, just like the allegations against her .

[@squreshi8413]

Honestly in my experience this is totally unsurprising. In my experience people who have a large burden like that level of obesity or visible disability can become very bitter and mean people. Hurt people hurt people. That can be true for anyone, but those two groups often surprise people bc you would think they would be MORE empathetic. Even with such tests, we are still accountable for how we treat people.

[@TheMostDivine]

there has been 0 evidence of any of the allegations, stop projecting your experiences onto a total stranger please.

[@ron05aa]

​@divinegoddessnumberone there's no evidence of it NOT happening as well. So...

[@hannahb9195]

my mother was a sadist and my father was a p**ophile. I don't hurt people. It is definitely harder to function coming from a background like mine, but there is hope and it is important not to spread the idea that folks like me are doomed to repeat harm done to us.

[@oliverxhmll]

Lizzo's obesity doesn't stop her from doing anything. I saw her on stage in Poland and she goes crazy. What you're talking are about are people on like 600 pound life. She has no reason to be bitter about anything. She could lose weight if she wanted to FAST with a professional chef, but she clearly doesn't want to.

[@nick-dq1hh]

⁠@@oliverxhmllthat extra weight has terrible effects on your organs, regardless of outside appearance. So it likely does have effects on mood and cognitive function.

[@amalonebd]

The false imprisonment was when they wouldn't let the girl leave until they checked her phone after they fired her

[@mabby4299]

I’m in the group of happy that this is coming out since i never liked lizzo NOT because i’m fat phobic but because she’s has always come off to me as very insincere. the way she portrayed herself and her “body positivity” (as with the claims proves she really wasn’t) never felt genuine to me. same kinda energy as amy schumer and ellen. fake commercially profitable advocacy

[@2turg_2furious]

To be clear I was a lizzo fan but every time someone is so “passionate” about a social issue it’s always forced and performative and I’m so tired of it.

[@GlitzPixie]

I'm not happy about it but yeah same. For ex. her Emmy acceptance speech seemed really insincere

[@GlitzPixie]

@@2turg_2furious I really don't think that's true, not everyone is insincere

[@2turg_2furious]

@@GlitzPixie I mean look at the track record obviously not everyone but for a lot of people if feels like compensation. It’s not unfair to assume it’s PR for them.

[@GlitzPixie]

@@2turg_2furious what's the track record? What percentage of people are faking it? I just don't think this is a fair or helpful generalization, it kinda just minimizes and invalidates the opinions of people who truly care and by extension the causes they advocate for

[@kishpieandtart]

Shoutout to Olivia for bringing up the fatphobia. I feel like many people are using this situation just to fatshame Lizzo, instead of criticizing her ACTUAL crimes.

[@skippythealien9627]

is anyone surprised? Lizzo triggers so many fucking weirdos who are angry that someone is fat and isn't ashamed of being fat. they were going to use anything possible to trash her lol

[@Terrann1]

I am thankful that you guys have a highlights channel because sometimes I don’t have the time to watch the whole thing but you give us all the best parts in the highlights and I appreciate that.

[@peebbeep4830]

Ethan might not feel like it’s a big deal but ‘overweight’ and ‘obese’ mean totally different things and experiences. going from obese to overweight is a huge accomplishment, everyone is so hyped about it except Ethan😭 i know how hard it is to restrict calories for a long period without feeling depressed but soon he can start eating his maintenance calories, fatigue and hunger will go away and you’ll accomplish something you’ve wanted for years while giving your wife and kids more time to spend with them

[@yessica4932]

take one look at the replies on any one of ethan’s takes and the first thing an incredible number of people jump to when they disagree with him is to attack or discredit him bc of his weight; i’m sure he is proud of it, but dude could see the trolls coming and downplayed it before they could

[@elianarebekah7180]

I was reluctant to believe the lawsuit until other people (who would have nothing to gain from the suit) started speaking out in support and sharing their stories working with her. Edited to add: plus one of the dancers apparently recorded a meeting that was damaging. So I find it hard to believe they would claim it as groundbreaking evidence if it’s BS

[@tylermunday2146]

My dislike of lizzo was never about her weight i just always got a really bad feeling about her.

[@sinuretasin]

"Whaa..t?.. " Was my initial reaction reading the title. Then my rational brain kicked in and am far less shocked thinking back about all the info that's come to light and world events so far in 2023.

[@olive_99]

i've had a weird feeling about her since she went to that televised basketball game with her ass out. where children are. she clearly doesn't understand boundaries. i've also go the feeling from her for quite a while that there is some insincerity and self absorbed behavior from her

[@mads597]

That was my moment of realization as well! Like, I don’t want to be forced to see anyone’s bare cheeks in public, or sitting on publicly used surfaces, shape and size irrelevant

[@k1xnt]

I mean, her size isn't completely irrelevant. That's a whole lot of ass, it can't be easy getting all that surface area in one piece of clothing

[@savagebrendaquinn131]

Same here!!! I was like Nah ...

[@SandrineAnterrion]

I feel like she is an ex sexual abuse victim, now abusing people in that way.

[@adelaidefeuseau7741]

I went to conservatory as a singer and I can believe a flautist got this out of control. Woodwind players are crazy! I will never forget the bassoonist who told me I should go back to his place because he was good at double tonguing (which is a legitimate technical thing they do but grossly applied)

[@clevermissfox]

Tyrant is the perfect word for Lizzo

[@gabrielathomas4783]

Honestly… I’m not surprised about this lawsuit at all. There’s literally a picture of her licking some girls boob, I don’t think that she’s very interested in setting boundaries 😅

[@devonwilliams2423]

It appears shes pushin the boundaries of her clothes too jkjk ez joke lol

[@TheStormSuspect]

@@devonwilliams2423you shouldn’t have to be like “omg it’s a joke please don’t hate me” it’s a joke and that’s it. Good joke too

[@aliceisaperson]

This video was super uncomfortable to watch. I typically enjoy these but this just feels like 20 minutes of downplaying what the victims went through

[@gonzalomontana2704]

agree

[@ciderodd4278]

What are they gonna do they’re a shock jock lite station.

[@aliceisaperson]

@@ciderodd4278 it’s possible to be able to make jokes about a situation without downplaying traumatic situations these women went through.

[@yessica4932]

show us how

[@lucyotaku531]

Lmao you’re gonna have to apologize Ethan

[@Janm-2]

you cant even defend her in the slightest bit, she’s lost all credibility as an artist and a “””role model”””

[@jboao]

why? were you there? do you know what really happened? plenty of women and men lie about sexual assault and other wild allegations to make celebrities look bad. Lizzo has the right to defend herself and there’s two sides to every story.

[@Janm-2]

@@jboao bffr

[@skeletini9836]

what confuses me about this lawsuit so far is the range of accusations. it goes from cultish chanting to encourage a woman to eat a banana out of a sex workers vagina and putting someone in a see through outfit with nothing underneath (depraved sexual exploitation) to saying something that could be taken as rude by some people. there’s no in between. then all the other people supporting the lawsuit from the outside are acting like something terrible happened and they’re not saying anything… we need to know all the context surrounding these events and those stories would help.

[@MELLMAO]

It sounds like a hit piece to me. The wording and accusations are very flimsy and rely on "feelings" "felt" "feeling like". In reality, we will not know until a trial. All of this could be entirely made up to take her down but her whole career is already dead

[@_SunscreenQueen_]

In dance being told you are “less committed “ or “not trying hard” actually means they think you are gaining weight bcuz of laziness. They won’t say “you are fat” they will say you’re lazy but the message they are actually saying is they think you’ve gained weight

[@maximusreville3837]

Fat phobic isn’t a thing there is no person on this planet that is irrationally afraid of someone who is fat

[@CezaMVO]

Putting Lizzo and MASSIVE in the title is hilarious

[@laurah674]

iirc, lizzo specifically said her “body positivity” movement was only for bigger bodies. I could’ve sworn I remember seeing a video where she got all pissy bc people of all sizes were taking part in it, and that seemed to not be allowed in her mind. Which in itself seems to be the opposite of body positivity, bc yet again you’re telling another group of ppl that they can’t outwardly celebrate their body unless it’s of a specific size.. bc Lizzo said so? And now apparently it was all bullsh*t anyway

[@gleeeleee13]

Why is Ethan downplaying all this she’s obviously a horrible person wtf

[@ciderodd4278]

He’s not a rabid hater who paints any accusation as verbatim. Also, this is just another day of clocks and profits for H3

[@evgama4085]

It’s a comedy podcast please lighten up

[@El.Sasquatcho69]

Innocent until proven guilty like Johnny Depp should be a good example of these situations. Look she might be a POS but I'd like to wait for more information first. Especially before attacking her regardless I'm not gonna say the people are lying yet or she's bad. Gotta see the receipts and all let this come out more. Then we can make our decisions based on that

[@badirafi7685]

@@evgama4085 Commentary podcast.

[@Roserosey04]

there is no factual evidence, and its a comedy/drama podcast, I suppose. he still calls her out

[@Mooseinclusivity]

Lizzie weight wouldn’t even be in question if she didn’t bring it up every 4 seconds

[@bradw4305]

ethan is actually looking a lot healthier these days it’s so good to see!

[@Austin-xs8bn]

2023 is the year of female offenders being held accountable and im so here for it

[@ciderodd4278]

😂

[@Sila_is_ice_queen]

and when will male ones finally be held accountable? lmao

[@jasonh8542]

Pretty awesome Ethan laughing at innocent victims of powerful people

[@Frankenstein_420]

He’s always been like this- he was like this to Trisha too

[@ciderodd4278]

Poop funny lol

[@jasonh8542]

@@Frankenstein_420 yeah I have been watching them from the start. Much earlier than Trish

[@jasonh8542]

@@ciderodd4278 victims or power isn’t funny

[@Frankenstein_420]

@@jasonh8542 so have I, I’ve been watching since vape nash

[@Be4rin]

Not sure if this segment is it. I think the humour attempts isn’t so appropriate when discussing allegations like this. Abit cringe

[@SofiaTHEfIRST1873]

Why giggling at the poor woman who didn’t go to the bathroom bc fear of being fired.

[@zeynepnazmegrel6693]

I’m at the office and that fart noise on 5:07 caught me off guard. And now everyone is looking at me. Thanks Zach the Sound Lad 👌🏻

[@futuristicgirl14]

Insecure angry people like to make others feel the same

[@katherinefotopoulos9244]

I mean I'm not surprised after she showed up to a Lakers game in a thong 😂

[@RE-dz6gf]

It's not funny that someone wasn't able to use a bathroom when they needed to. Making light of someone being denied a basic human function is gross.

[@Jonqen]

She could go. She wasnt imprisoned. It was more a psychological lock. You have to joke about the darker aspects of life otherwise youd kill yourself from depression

[@oscaravalos9098]

Calm down.

[@midwestmarcus4723]

The problem with us is that we publicly persecute before the person is found guilty. Needs to change

[@DavidKen878]

But I thought we were supposed to believe all victims?

[@augustisthebest1606]

People are allowed to have opinions. Multiple people that have worked for her have spoken out against her I don't have to wait the years this gonna take in court to have an opinion

[@midwestmarcus4723]

@@augustisthebest1606 I’m glad you have a opinion. Your supposed to. People shouldn’t get cancelled off opinions. I’m not saying she didn’t do it. I don’t know at this point and neither do you

[@Justicejuice179]

I’ve been learning that a good amount of body positive people aren’t body positive. They’re self body positive lol. Which is good. But they’re just as petty and negative about other peoples body.

[@WhatSmellsLikeToast]

These viral Ozempic ads are getting creative

[@ExosLife]

maybe the crystal flute turned her evil

[@Cats_Are_Scary]

Legalize all drugs!

[@Marques330]

Dumbest shit I’ve ever heard anyone say

[@don6359]

Based

[@kraayzie]

fr

[@ifwrainbow190]

Hell yeah

[@CathaterW]

Correct

[@ariel325]

Not surprised at all… I thought Lizzo Showing up to a basketball game with a thong on was icky and weird considering people of all ages go to games and showed a clear issue on her part with what’s appropriate and what’s not

[@olive_99]

THANK YOU. i've had an extremely unpleasant feeling since then that she does not have proper boundaries and doesn't care if anyone around her is uncomfortable or doesn't understand that kind of thing can make people uncomfortable.

[@rachell8661]

She’s a disrespectful creep. She’s gross.

[@Mac-et8rv]

I wish they had read the actual lawsuit (if they haven’t already). I think the articles leave out a lot of context

[@veggiesavvy]

I love you guys. I listening to you 10hr a week. However, the way you handled the Lizzo situation was inappropriate at best. You were extremely disrespectful to the victims. And finding soiling funny (to the point where you cannot control your laughter) past the age of 10... girl...Lizzo is not a random celebrity. She is a fat, black woman in a position of power who represented many marginalized communities. Her inevitable demise will give way to anti blackness, fatphobia and misogyny.

[@WhatSmellsLikeToast]

I'm sure everybody will miss you, but you need to be principled and stop watching Ethan

[@r.i.pmydog7723]

@UnjustifiedRecsif they wanna be funny maybe dont cover AS allegations al the time

[@r.i.pmydog7723]

@UnjustifiedRecs I am more upset that it wasn’t funny, old people really like poo poo humour how mature of you huh fegg

[@veggiesavvy]

@UnjustifiedRecs God forbid we give constructive criticism to a guy we all love. Eyeroll vibes

[@WutTheDeuceGaming]

​​​​@@veggiesavvyyou act like this video is 20 mins of them laughing at that fact. Stfu. Majority of the video is them talking seriously about it. As someone already said, your generation of people are so fucking soft. One little joke/laugh and yall get into your feelings. It's so pathetic.

[@joaquinbaume1291]

ethan almost had another chestnuts moment

[@xjojorez]

As a cabaret performer, I LOVE Ethan's imitation of a fan dance

[@medeucaa]

Yo all seriousness to the side for just a mo’- this podcast was WIIILD😂 a five minute discussion on poopin ya pants

[@FullOfPixels]

the fear of calling someone fat these days is insane

[@sophie.ahlberg1748]

Do you wish you could call ppl fat left and right without consequences?

[@FullOfPixels]

@@sophie.ahlberg1748 yes

[@sophie.ahlberg1748]

Why?

[@FullOfPixels]

@@sophie.ahlberg1748 because inherently there shouldn't be consequences - lizzo is fat

[@laurarose7770]

It is not fat phobic to acknowledge that obesity is not healthy and not a good look.

[@alexanderluna4598]

I love Lizzos music. But i also know that her niche of glamorizing obesity does harm to women everywhere, especially in America where our obesity rates are already skyrocketing. It’s not fatphobic to finally be able to comment on her spreading lies of fat beauty now that she’s exposed herself of not even being as body positive as she claims to be.

[@DeityLover]

I'm fat, even after losing 269 pounds... but I never got behind lizzo... especially after her selling out and working with fabletics.... I mean, drastically unchanging... unless you pay ....

[@Blurbblurb]

Did the other dancers used the loo? We’re they scolded? Did this lead to her soiling herself?

[@o_Its2D]

Leave it Ethan to not full press this story like he would if it Andrew Tate or anyone else that has those views I think they definitely went super easy on lizzo

[@k1xnt]

because Ethan's paranoid of being cast out by the left for being insensitive. He needs Hasan's crowed for those VIEWS

[@yessica4932]

lizzo hasn’t trafficked human beings but good effort

[@o_Its2D]

@@yessica4932 Tate hasn’t either still no proof of it if there was he would be in jail let’s be real she’s forcing her dancers to eat bananas out of strippers vaginas

[@o_Its2D]

@@yessica4932 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYe7l2pjrrWmjKM

[@shaymundane1335]

Ethan, I think its safe to say that alot of us expected more from you and your team, and instead you guys laughed and made fun of the girl who was forced to soil herself. You guys went way too easily on Lizzo.

[@ayysweetstea9339]

Both sides have to be heard first but we'll see if they really take it to court. Such a shame if it's all true.

[@Andiethehedgehog24]

I’m so mad you guys laughed at the dancer peeing herself. It’s honestly disgusting and I feel like that was the last straw for me guys sorry I’m not watching anymore As a woman I’m shocked Olivia would not have checked them

[@JaneLorenzo-fk6dm]

Bye

[@rayannhearns]

I’m actually sooooo not happy Ethan is laughing. It’s pretty disgusting that he can sit on his podcast with millions of views and laugh at the victim of some of this stuff. Like do better bro, take it seriously for a second.

[@RoosaM88]

He’s not mocking the victims, he’s criticizing the actions of Lizzo. He did not once laugh at the victims or speak unpleasantly about them. He makes jokes, but not at the expense of the victims.

[@rayannhearns]

@@RoosaM88 he literally laughs at the woman who soiled herself being kept on set. Sure we can play semantics and he wasn’t technically mocking her, but her was legit laughing. Maybe you should rewatch?

[@VIi726]

​@@rayannhearnshes laughing because he too has shat himself amd had to finish performing

[@bstardtedcruz8022]

​@@rayannhearnsI find it pretty funny that a grown woman would sit there and piss herself instead of going to the bathroom. I didn't know you could sue people because you are too nervous to be a big girl and go to the bathroom on your own

[@WhatSmellsLikeToast]

Found the reason Ethan's never funny anymore

[@clevermissfox]

The false imprisonment is regarding another incident where they fired Davis then security didn’t let her leave until she allowed them (under coercion) to go thru her phone to make sure a recording of Lizzo berating the team was deleted .

[@beaniebabyV]

If lizzo wins this case she could pull out a defamation case or sue for slander against this dancer

[@reykaye6096]

Idolizing people never ends well.

[@DrNekobeard]

Tbh I've been on the Lizzo hate train since she came out pretty supportive of Chris Brown

[@wisdomcoffee]

Wait, she did? Totally missed that, that’s pretty nasty of her. What did she say?

[@shanzaaa8532]

The “poop yourself” conversation though lol

[@krystyna89lopez]

Lizzo would make people do stuff w the back up dancers and then after make her security lock them in a room and make them delete pictures off their phones

[@NorthwestNicholas]

Zack with the fart noises 💀 I’m dying.

[@kellyfeger]

What im trying to understand is doesn't Lizzo want big dancers on stage? She specifically hires big girls. Why would she ask them to lose weight?

[@nunyabusyness762]

Holy crap, a 12hr rehearsal?! That's insane...

[@sienapowers333]

Wow you laughing at the false imprisonment explanation is disgusting. If someone actually suffered through this how do you find that funny?

[@sienapowers333]

Maybe don’t discuss serious topics if you can’t have sympathy for others

[@bunny1319]

I’m not a Lizzo fan but it wasn’t wasn’t “SA” though. Nobody is even claiming that they said harassment not assault and even that was a bit of a stretch…there’s a big difference

[@grey1632]

She talks about how her dancers have to stay “in shape” she’s big on them looking a specific way

[@Rogu666.]

If someone is a sexualpredator then they deserve no boundaries shame anything from their body-sexuality hurt them physically&mentally

[@clairej212]

unfortunately this mindset just puts fat people in an uncomfortable position. imagine seeing your friends go after a sexual predator by talking about how disgusting their body is, when yours looks the exact same. there’s plenty of valid reasons to come for lizzo, being fat isn’t one of them.

[@connorl9546]

I don't really listen to Lizzo and didn't have any strong feelings about her one way or the other. I was at a restaurant with my mom, stepdad and a few other people and we got into an argument because my step dad said he felt like he was being pressured to find lizzo attractive everyone at the table disagreed with him and he pointed to that as evidence of societal pressure. We're both white and he's near 60 so I can verify there is some irrational hate going on.

[@Mooseinclusivity]

Whoever did the fart noise at 5:06 deserves a raise and a years worth of canes

[@stepha8713]

So my employer should be charged with false imprisonment every day. Because I only stay for fear of being fired.

[@milarose275]

Emily D Baker did really good legal commentary on this, looking specifically about whether any of this is actually actionable.