Is Euphony BETTER Than Still Hunt? (Optimal Rotations & Damage TESTING)

In today's video we go over the brand new Raid Exotic Euphony and compare it to other Special and Heavy ammo Linear Fusion Rifles like Arbalest, Cataclysmic and Doomed Petitioner while also evaluating it's potency in damage rotations and comparing to other prominent sources of special weapon DPS like Still Hunt!
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I've been hearing a lot of buzz around Euphony since it came out and today I get to show you guys the results of some testing I carried out on stream the other day, and it was actually quite a fun experiment! The main thing I wanted to test was how Euphony stacked up vs more established HEAVY Linear Fusion Rifles and much to my surprise it comes incredibly close to some and outright beats several options, and it's a special weapon! After collecting the numbers, the next thing I wanted to try was seeing how you could optimize it in a damage rotation, which is why I went with Strand Warlock due to the Threadling spam it's capable of dishing out. In future I might retest because at the time of this test I didn't have a class item with Spirit of the Star Eater and Spirit of Apotheosis, so my super damage would be even higher than it is now. After that I then compared it to a super basic Celestial Nighthawk Still Hunt rotation and it too blew me away, I never truly realized how much damage Still Hunt was outputting. Anyway, please enjoy the breakdown!
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0:00 - 0:53 Intro
0:53 - 1:39 Euphony
1:39 - 2:37 Arbalest
2:37 - 3:35 Doomed Petitioner (Enhanced Precision Instrument)
3:35 - 4:33 Cataclysmic (Bait & Switch)
4:33 - 5:48 Still Hunt
5:48 - 6:40 Merciless (3x Impetus Proc)
6:40 - 7:05 Quick Note On Microcosm
7:05 - 7:56 Ager's Scepter (Cenotaph Mask)
7:56 - 10:21 Euphony Damage Rotations
10:21 - 12:37 Still Hunt Rotations
12:37 - 13:55 BIG DAMAGE
13:55 - 14:25 Outro

[@bodacioushamster4526]

Imma keep it real with you idgaf what you upload i just appreciate the energy you exude and will watch

[@LlamaD2]

Thank you for leaving such a lovely comment!

[@brindogg]

@@LlamaD2ion even play destiny no more but your the goat so idc 😤😤😊

[@yab01keef67]

tf are you talking about

[@patrickoakley7890]

The glazing is out of control in KZbin comments, holy moly.

[@yab01keef67]

@@patrickoakley7890 for real dude at this point I'm convinced it's youtubers alt accounts or they want to get pinned to get some form of recognition or attention they don't get at home. So weird lmao. Also weird that the tubers pin it to as if to say "Hey everyone look at how much people love me!"

[@andrewberger3110]

damn i did not realize still hunt cooked that hard

[@RequiemL34]

Was what achived the world's first and only 24 hours between clear of salvation's edge (the witness was a nasty dps check I heard).

[@Ghxst_2023]

​@@RequiemL34 not so much a dps check as it is tryna telegraph and move through the damage phase without 2 people dying

[@RequiemL34]

@@Ghxst_2023 during contest mode

[@yacobe_]

@@RequiemL34 even during contest mode people had to throttle their DPS to not enter final stand too early. the real DPS check was surviving during DPS phase, not actually doing the damage

[@Cillian-wwweeee]

@@RequiemL34it wasn’t a damage check at all it was more of surviving

[@SuperBeanSquad]

Still Hunt's performance almost doubling, going from 2.19m to 4.3m on Hunter is wild. Even if we take off the Nighthawk shot for parity (600k) it would still be 3.7m, about a 70% increase.

[@jamesbg314]

Still Hunt compared to DARCI is a goddamned crime

[@kiyama7997]

Mostly because the ammo count. Nighthawk give you 1 shot and then you have 5 shot to charge it back up while other class only have 3 before reload

[@oneshot1kill158]

i think your math is fucked up here, no nighthalk means its the same as other classes. meaning the same as his warlock run

[@SuperBeanSquad]

@@oneshot1kill158 No I mean I literally took the Nighthawk Golden Gun super's damage off the damage total. The Warlock test only used the gun for damage while the Hunter test started with a damaging super.

[@oneshot1kill158]

@SuperBeanSquad night hawk effects the gun as well bruh

[@mercipug938]

Titans sitting quietly in the Conner with a melee hammer

[@saladgaming4339]

I think euphony is probably a great choice to swap to for longer dps phases/final stands where you've already spent all your still hunt ammo, you can just run the call or something beforehand and loadout swap i think

[@LlamaD2]

Actually sounds like a good idea!

[@saladgaming4339]

@@LlamaD2 i believe this was the strat for trio and duo witness for final stand, just hotswap to euphony, pick up ammo and go

[@ADreadBellow]

Double special where one is your add clear and the other is for dps will cost you a ton of ammo for dps. Your second special will drain most your ammo for it. Better too use outbreak or lucky pants with still Hunt.

[@saladgaming4339]

@@ADreadBellow on witness you can literally use an lmg, still hunt singlehandedly carries dps, and rocket sidearms are also incredibly ammo efficient so this point does not stick

[@Sagittarial-A-]

​@@ADreadBellow This would typically make more sense with that double special heavy ammo effect they nerfed way back, but lead from gold on at least 1 of your two special weapons, along with even a single Aeons present makes this nerf so insignificant it's not even a concern.

[@cola-addict]

Can we say we are in a special dps meta? Cause imagine 5 still hunts hunters or 5 euphony warlocks will go absolutely bonkers.

[@LlamaD2]

I do think so!

[@dtps_champion6016]

we got a 2 phase on witness last night with 5x still hunt we're pretty retarded

[@dankplagueis9253]

Sad titan noises

[@georgiabulldog7671]

@@dankplagueis9253what about Propulsion? Overhyped?

[@stephencutler5439]

@@LlamaD2 just wondering if there’s something I’m missing. You mentioned the strand dmg would be inflated due to surge, but you didn’t mention the same for solar damage. When you pulled out your ghost towards the beginning it showed a solar surge as well so I guess the real number for 4.3 mil still hunt hunter would actually be 3.2 mil if we remove the solar surge. Just wondering if there was a reason why you didn’t also mention an inflated number for solar like you did with strand or maybe I missed it?

[@AN1MAX]

From the damage tests we can agree that the heavy LFRs especially precision frames need their damage buffed. Because in the current sandbox, whisper of the worm is a better LFR than the actual ones and with introduction of Euphony and Still Hunt makes them even more obsolete.

[@silentib1534]

I think they're gonna need to nerf Titan again after this

[@LlamaD2]

Agreed

[@vrika4280]

Of course! (Bane voice)

[@RetroTSSoS]

They pretty much did considering we found out that the rocket exotic is not going to stack with radiant but rather override it.

[@Th3_a_g4m3]

@@RetroTSSoSshould probably reword that, it’s going to be overridden by radiant. So instead of 35% it goes to 25%.

[@fleefie]

The only Herald of Finality solo is on a titan as it's only possible to output the required damage on a Titan.

[@semajgraham5849]

Llama: "Yeah, I'm sure surges are sticking around." Bungie: Is that a challenge?

[@nightismonochrome]

For the Ager's scepter, it may be even better to run it on a prismatic subclass, since it can benefit from both Facet of command (reload on freeze) and facet of ruin (more shatter damage). That should allow you to fire off significantly more without even depending on Cenotaph, all while doing more shatter damage on top of that.

[@DrChili1428]

I have been addicted to strand warlock since Lightfall came out, I havent wanted a raid exotic this bad in awhile, looks so fun

[@ahmedimranimran5100]

It's really good im so happy i got it on my 2nd try

[@Ghoseum]

me too bro... me too

[@LaFlamaBlanca757]

Nice of you to test the warlock wxcljsive dps rotation introduced this season and the hunter exclusive dps rotation this season and the titan- oh wait…

[@LlamaD2]

Titans crying in the corner rn lmao

[@LaFlamaBlanca757]

@@LlamaD2 hey we got a rocket chest! That… gets overridden by the easiest to pass buff in the game 😢

[@ytiev1486]

@@LaFlamaBlanca757 not in the future! Bungie said on their reddit account that they're looking to fix that interaction so that the 35% buff takes priority

[@LaFlamaBlanca757]

@@ytiev1486 that’s awesome really. Was pretty disappointed when I found out.

[@bearlybearablebear]

@@LlamaD2 The titan rotation is actually kinda simple. All you gotta do is go to ESC -> Change Character

[@HannyaHalo]

Don't kinetic weapons benefit from surges when your equipped subclass matches the surge?

[@Spartan140Kurt]

Believe that is what it says on one of the surge/overcharged tool tip when you hover over it.

[@LlamaD2]

Yes but not in raids/dungeons

[@slytheninja]

It's only from the overcharged weapons modifier

[@lamp6381]

the funny part about this is that prismatic warlocks can get apotheosis and star eaters on their class item alone so theres even more damage potential there

[@Lachlan_McDougall]

Still won’t beat hunter with a steel hunt apex rotation.

[@lamp6381]

@@Lachlan_McDougall yes I know, but Hunter also doesn’t have the survivability that warlock has

[@Toxxicqt]

​@@lamp6381have you seen prismatic hunter? Every melee gives healing, resto + recup on dodge, stupid amounts of damage resistance from amplified, 100 resil and facet of resistance, all without designated exotic. If you're dying on prismatic hunter youre doing something wrong

[@lamp6381]

@@Toxxicqt and yet, every Hunter still begs for well, song of flame, or the speaker helmet

[@Lachlan_McDougall]

@@lamp6381 maybe you’re playing with trash team mates 👀

[@phantomcreaper9720]

No offense but the div is such a bad way to test this because with the cataclysmic you hit for 20k like 5 times when you should be hitting for 100k+ on the body shot, not to mention it also keeps breaking, maybe just go for the crit

[@thedankesttaco3585]

bro did not just say "you could be hitting for 100k+ on the body shot"

[@frosty8712]

alright, only dps build videos from now on lol. Crazy damage, good stuff man!

[@randomizeskillz5643]

Great video Llama🎉 wished you on good health and keep good posting brother 👏🏻👍🏻

[@winterpirate]

crazy combo, only got even better with pris warlock with the new class items, this on top of the apoth and star eater combo with the class would absolutely cook

[@Storebror492]

6:40 just wanna put out a friendly reminder, Kinetic weapons (unless it's only when Overcharged is a modifier) gain a damage buff equal to that of a Surge if your Subclass (maybe linked to Super now?) matches that of the active Surge(s).

[@chunkyrabbit1032]

they don't in raids and dungeons until next update

[@christhiantrevisan8084]

6:55 Isn't there something about using a subclass matching the surge to overcharge your kinetic weapons giving it the same bonus as a surge? Or is this only on strikes/gms? Cause I'm pretty sure this exists somewhere

[@Optclzr]

Are you gonna do a rotation 101 video for some new builds now that prismatic n stuff is out?

[@maka134679]

Microcosm in Ghost of the Deep with someone else breaking the shield with Arbalest to proc the Disruption Break buff would cook

[@sergioalexanderdeinschlimm9752]

How happy I am to be a Main hunter.

[@Lugiahdx]

It’s better to put on one solar auto loading then switch to a reconstruction rocket with explosive light so once you shoot the golden gun switch to rocket dump the 2 and by the time u go back it’s fully loaded it’s more optimal without extra reloads

[@mauricioalpizarrodriguez9078]

Main wannabe-trashard better said

[@thedankesttaco3585]

@@mauricioalpizarrodriguez9078what

[@TheMrMayo]

"Euphony laughing in DPS until the Scintillation comes striding in." - internet, 2024 I'll probably use both no matter the DPS, but still worth knowing should I learn any Hunter DPS setups. Cheers for the comparisons!

[@dknetharion]

It's worth noting that testing Microcosm during surges is entirely plausible as kinetic damage is overcharged when your subclass/super element matches one of the surge elements. That's why kinetic surges for activities don't exist. The overcharge benefit is meant to be the same as the surge benefit.

[@konnerwilley4844]

Hey Llama, I cooked up a dps rotation for warlock using a primary, Still Hunt, Apex Predator with recon/bns, and Rain of fire boots: Use goldy, 3 regular snipes, primary bullet, 2 rockets, icarus, rocket, 3 snipes, repeat

[@drupins9511]

Try an Apex Predator Stillhunt hunter rotation. I had a teamate do nearly 9 million on a two phase witness

[@LlamaD2]

Saving this for an updated optimal rotations video!

[@bigf00tgaming37]

Was your teammate using bipod or bait n switch?

[@Uolfee]

that is only possible this 'season' because of fragments/prismatic shenanigans (and with """"bad"""" teammates)

[@michaellewis5867]

Prismatic subclass with threaded spike and facet of courage will increase dps too

[@longps9528]

Check out Chicken SI-2. He has already made a video about this rotation with Explosive Light Apex and Still Hunt.

[@FalloutFan011]

MAN I knew Still Hunt cooked, but i didnt know it cooked THAT HARD ALONE, thats absolutely NUTS 😂😂 I DEFINITELY know what character and class ill be bringing to The Witness's door if I'm able to find a group 😅😅

[@OthersideSparrow]

Crazy DPS you can do with Still Hunt is as follows: Equip 2x solar surge + solar holster. Pop Goldie Sup, pop Still Hunt sup, become radiant with dodge. Shoot both goldies, shoot 5 Still Hunt bullets, then swap to preferably Solar Rocket with some kind of ALH and dmg perk. Youll shoot both rockets, and by then Still Hunt will be reloaded. Shoot once, proc Still Hunt sup. 5 bullets left, rinse repeat with swapping rocket as youll always have 5 bullets left. Preferred rocket is Apex with Recon + EL

[@waheedD12]

what times u usually stream?

[@JustJoe24]

Something to keep in mind for Euphony is you can make builds that exponentially speed up the stacking to x25, AND for multiple Euphony users you'll all stack at the same rate to x25 including if even one of you makes a dedicated build (osmio/apotheosis + star eater warlock using Strand super and threadling grenade will get to x25 in less than 5 seconds)

[@gavo7911]

I think Euphony will shine beautifully with Needlestorm and the Apotheosis/Star-Eater class item combo. Use the higher damage super, then blast with Euphony while spamming Threadling grenades for 10 seconds.

[@zacharylangford773]

When over changed weapons modifier is active, (master raids and GM's), when your subclass matches a surge, kinetic weapons also get the 25% over charge buff.

[@freddyflo7364]

arbalest is benefitting from the surges too i believe because kinetic weapons get surged when your super matches the surges, which it did in your case. the same would then go for macrocosm

[@jvsilky]

Wont microcosm work with the overcharge like kinetic weapons in previous seasons?

[@Konnerading]

Id love to see how bastion stacks up now that it got effectively trench barrel.

[@LlamaD2]

Bastion vid tomorrow :)

[@DanYami]

does Microcosm benefit from surges when your subclass matches? like with normal kinetics?

[@skodapidar]

What singe was up that day and have you used surge mods?

[@ipolarisi2381]

I wonder how many contest mode completions the new raid would have if still hunt wasn’t a thing. I reckon about 50

[@georgiabulldog7671]

Probably less than that.

[@serabi_]

it'd probably be the same as last wish. one.

[@quinndonaldson4972]

llama, is the kinetic weapon damage boost earned from matching your subclass to the current surge modifier not working with microcosm? Seems like microcosm wouldn’t shift in viability compared to the pack on weeks where the meta subclasses match the surge.

[@Cynderrs_]

I was wondering the same

[@neurotgaming9508]

Am I wrong in thinking that kinetic weapons get the surge buff if the super matches the elemental surge?

[@zackeryauzbournebrinkley6945]

Llama Also note when u rally u get full Cades Retri so u should be able to pop Golden Gun + the second Still hunt Golden before going into the Sniper rotation

[@ninjawatchdutchmen7171]

Weekly surges affecting the dmg results aswell?

[@0RandyHooper0]

Considering the news surges are going, all damage output is getting a 25% buff(including kinetic and abilities). That microcosm videos going to be a banger

[@ItsVoltali]

how do you get clean images of the weapon icons?

[@LlamaD2]

I use an AI upscaler to enhance the icons you can get from the API

[@treybrady9134]

Used gold gun in well on that first test and it still deleted looks like our favorite gunslinger is still looking after us

[@Vahloksavjul]

Hey Llama would you be willing to test out an optimal rotation with star eaters nova bomb (facet of courage/weaken) + facet of command edge transit? Idk if it will beat out still hunt but timing facet of command freezes/suppresses correctly you can empty your heavy reserves without reloading . I hit a nova bomb for 815k in a quick test on the ogre which out damages a nighthawk so I’m interested to see.

[@LlamaD2]

I'll definitely keep this in mind because I'm planning a larger video with all sorts of rotations, so yeah probably will

[@Vahloksavjul]

@@LlamaD2yeah I figured to include the 15% weaken in my test as it’s something you will pretty much always get in that rotation from either your vortex nade or the prismatic nade. Usually use my vortex before damage to throw out a bleak watcher for constant freezes though.

[@dimitri187227]

Imagine if you had the exotic bond on warlock with the star eater perk to buff your needlestorm much more

[@jshereforareason6830]

Both, both are good.

[@xufis]

Thanks for the comparison between the two, quite insightful to see side by side. While Still Hunt is undoubtedly the best DPS especially on Celestial Nighthawk, I felt it was mildly unfair in the DPS comparison since with Still Hunt you were aiming at his face which is much easier to hit crits than a Divinity Bubble being covered by his stomach when you were using the Euphony. With the amount of missed crits on Euphony I'd say you would be up about 200-250k bringing it slightly closer albeit it marginally closer to Still Hunt.

[@DR3WSIX]

The Still Hunt rotation could be a little quicker DPS if you empty out the mag before activating Cayde’s Retribution. That lets you get more damage in before Retribution refills the magazine

[@Cqntemplate]

Would love you see you test the new warlock super w/ a demo BnS rocket (the nades from the super remote the rocket) I got some INSANE damage with that combo on Greg earlier - side note: ember of ashes improved the damage by a lot

[@LlamaD2]

It's on the list of videos don't worry!

[@thenichols1Music]

Unless something changed, surges apply to kinetic weapons if you're using a subclass (super) which matches the surge. Curious to see if it affects microcosm though, as it's the only kinetic heavy in the game.

[@karateka_95]

I think Ager's Sceptre could have done a little more damage with the Whisper of Fissures fragment (increased size and damage of Stasis shatters), but it probably still wouldn't be enough to contend with the other weapons. Nice video dude :)

[@juduking44]

I come from the future. Surges did not in fact stick around.

[@themitry4811]

Correction: Kinetic Surges exist in activities. Kinetic weapons do increased damage when your super element matches an active surge. If there is a solar surge and you put on Song of Flame, microcosm would benefit from the surge damage.

[@GK-R]

what's with the 2 trace rifles when doing heavy dps testing?

[@LlamaD2]

To proc B&S on my rocket

[@ls7205]

short answer: NO long answer: NO, by a lot.

[@patrickoakley7890]

Oh you, just wait until Bungo nerfs the hell out of Still Hunt, it's way too powerful for them to ignore. Enjoy it while you can, it's gonna end up like Lorentz Driver.

[@georgiabulldog7671]

@@patrickoakley7890that could be a year from now. Who cares? Guaranteed it won’t happen in the foreseeable future. And it Lorentz Driver was never great in PVE. Too much setup required.

[@jhemp]

​@@patrickoakley7890yeah I honestly expect a pretty substantial nerf to the interaction between nighthawk and still hunt BUT I think they can just disable that interaction and it would be still a VERY strong pick

[@karatsukiawildfemboy2326]

The answer is not yet

[@georgiabulldog7671]

@@karatsukiawildfemboy2326 the answer is never. Cope. Hunters run Destiny 2.

[@clementsavin521]

Maybe now that warlock had access to exotic with opethese and star eater scale maybe damage can go a little bit higher? But not higher that celestial still hunt damn that thing is strong!

[@CORRI140ms]

Rn a mate and me are trying to duo witness and stillhunt is the carry there, with prismatic hunter you can debuff on your own, do more dmg duo to prismatic n stuff its crazy... Maybe do a optimal dps rotation video for diff classes soon with the new stuff? That would be awesome Non the less, awesome content and i love your atitude during your videos, its awesome!

[@joesmedley9546]

Have you tried queensbreaker yet since the damage buff? Also an exotic linear.

[@joesmedley9546]

Also, throw in lorentz since it's a special linear as well. Get the damage buff for Lorentz going with the artifact perk and see how it compares, bro!

[@ixodesricinus3001]

I mean there are surges for tracerifles in the rotation and when we get anti champion tracerifle in the artifact microcosm can be used

[@DavidFerneau]

Is there a reason you stil use wipe screen numbers instead of counting the pixels on the health bar? We've known for a long time that wipe screen numbers are inaccurate.

[@dee0175]

Use solar loader for the still hunt dmg rotation, thats what i use to rotate to use heavy as well like apex predator. Golden gun shot, still hunt shot, apex, then back to still hunt

[@EnderKnightz]

I have a question about the divinity bubble, if you hit the bosses crit spot while there's a divinity bubble doesn't that do more damage then just shooting the divinity bubble? Edit: looking at the comments saying about him just aiming at the head with only still hunt and not the other weapons this makes this damage test a bad test lol.

[@medalliondnb]

Does the Warlock exotic legs not synergize w Euphony?

[@capten_pickles4869]

Golden gun hunter with still hunt has finally given me the feeling of being an actual sniper build

[@Levigumba]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought kinetic weapons got a surge boost when you ran a subclass matching that surge

[@mallen123]

I like to use still hunt/ apex (recon/explosive light) 2 solar surge, 1 solar holster That way when im left with 5 in the mag after still hunt super, I can swap apex and shoot 2 rockets, swap back to still hunt and be ready to fire 6 to stack caydes again. 1phasing pretty much everything lol Makes still hunt feel kind of like izinagi, but not exactly Especially good since after reloading still hunt you have that awkward hang time of around 2-3 sec before you can shoot again. But basically 1) hold reload to activate caydes 2) shuriken for radiant 3)super and shoot 4) shoot caydes we prepped before +5 shots 5) swap to rocket and shoot 2x 6) swap back to still hunt, shoot 1x 7) hold reload to pop caydes 8) repeat 4-8 using shurikens and trancendance to extend radiant. Im not saying its easy, but im seeing 6m+ a phase on warpriest I'd love to see someone better than me pull it off to full potential

[@fleefie]

This is the exact strat that me and my friend are practicing to duo the witness, it can spit out the required 4 million per phase necessary to kill it

[@mallen123]

@@fleefie glad to hear I was on the right path. I was using marksman dodge to begin with as a safety buffer incase I missed shots or messed up the order Switched now to radiant dodge as confidence increased.

[@benzimbleman1315]

I love how at the end of the video you just go drink down some Tito’s vodka

[@bjcooper4365]

Am I crazy or did they say at some point that matching your subclass to the surges gives you essentially kinetic surge?

[@cheezyguy7119]

Im dumb, why shoot his crit when the div bubble appears, is it just because it disappears every now and then?

[@Creature-ology]

What about exotic class item on warlock using apotheosis and star eaters?

[@Catalyst375]

Keep in mind that a SINGLE Hunter with Still Hunt can put out 4.3 million on a long enough damage phase.

[@yashiroisana4177]

I just want to point out that you were shooting his actual crit during the 3mil still hunt rotation and that does a little more damage than shooting the div bubble

[@Frodo_Synthesis]

dont kinetic weapons get surge buffs if your subclass is matching?

[@serabi_]

i have hit 10 mil damage consistently every time we've ran the raid on the witness with hunter, and every other class is half that damage OR LESS. this proves that they need to nerf it or else no other class will exist in another contest mode raid

[@Solo_Shuckle]

Needle Storm Apotheosis Euphony - 2.175 mil without surges I believe that the solar damage surge may be on, so the Still hunt Celestial spam is ~3.2 mil

[@arryn786]

So like is there literally no options for Titan 😅 I’m honestly not sure what to use for the witness

[@kishan20101]

Don't Kinetic weapons gain the surge bonus If your subclass matches the surge?

[@Quadrphenia]

if ur super matches the surge of the activity then microcosm gets the surge bonus i heard?

[@Redoit-]

I need the maths on still hunts total dmg with celestial. Counting pre charged super. Because you always will have pre charged super in a dps with banner. I wander if it’s more than whisper

[@IGniTo100]

I wonder how much harder last encounter of day 1 would've been if still hunt didn't have the celestial synergy.

[@jamesl9174]

Llama I’m crazy but it works, especially in fireteam setting, probably higher damage solo as well: forget golden gun keep on celestial, use tether 😮

[@SunLeaf-tp7hv]

Triple solar surge works for still hunt. Not super but for the sniper. Also your radiant is running out so if you throw some knives in the mid you can get it going again

[@connormcateer7125]

Bungie: “yea wells are too strong” Also Bungie: “here’s a special weapon that on its own with no supplements besides celestial nighthawk which you can hot swap too that can hit over 4 million damage on its own.”

[@JamesTheTurnbull]

Titans: let me in...LET ME IIIIIIIIN

[@mikealgiers7852]

Ok how does it hold up to Lightfall's dps king of Needlestorm + thread of ascent, Izzy's, and BnS Apex rocket swapping? Or even Izzy, Dragoncult Sickle swapping?

[@simmybackup5000]

still hunt hunter outclasses easy without half the effort

[@d2cbro]

Wasn't this on Solar surge week? So Doomed Petitioner at would be higher than Cataclysmic?

[@LlamaD2]

Yeah lmao Cataclysmic has fallen down quite a bit

[@cur1ous238]

Why is cataclysmic so bad? Shouldn't bait and switch out damage precision instrument?

[@LlamaD2]

@@cur1ous238 At max stacks enhanced precision instrument is the same damage buff (30%) as B&S, and it only takes 3 shots (I guess 9 technically) to hit this cap

[@d2cbro]

@@cur1ous238 too much wasted time proccing it i guess

[@turtleturtlesaint-fleur7282]

If you match your subclass to elenmental surges your kinetic weapon gets the 25% damage boost

[@spynix0718]

Wanna know something that a friend and I tested that's actually sad? Base T-Crash does less damage than just using Still Hunt. Edit: To clarify, Titans get more damage from using Still Hunt with 3 Solar surges than T-Crash.

[@dankplagueis9253]

Base t crash does less damage than a synthoceps thunderclap. The damage easily gets exceeded by hunter melees. It crazy bad. Also the gun is busted. Titans are not doing well

[@Winger2020]

Bungie loves hunters. Still waiting on some exotic synergy for titans...

[@conley2659]

But that was also with strand overcharge? So still hunt would be better?

[@LlamaD2]

It was both Solar and Strand surge, you CAN compare them directly

[@rigelarchangel2451]

Can you try dumping a demo/BnS apex predator with the Euphony rotation while you stack the threadlings

[@RequiemL34]

To me still hunt is better since I already can use it lmao.

[@realteabaggins]

You could have built the Still Hunt super before going in dps since thats what most people do going in dps. That would increase the total damage by A LOT

[@notlucki3]

How does it stack up againt celestial + wild hunt

[@d2cbro]

watch the video

[@IrritatedGnome]

Pls explain why you’re using a div but shooting him in the face at the end? Does it have to do with precision multiplier? Is divs debuf still active when shooting in the face? And why weren’t you doing it with euphony too? So many questions lmao

[@jamiesamson4034]

Can i ask you to try out hazardous propulsion with grand overture or just a rock i kinda wanna see how itll cook the boss

[@LlamaD2]

It's on the list don't worry!

[@jamiesamson4034]

Sweet thx

[@Kjf365]

I want to know why all of these damage tests all decide to not enter the damage phase with max stacks of the buff on euphany, which to me seems to clearly be the intended use of the gun. It would be especially easy on this boss given all the adds you have to clear first to even start it.