Lloyd De Jongh After Show Talk - The Psychology of Liars

(PATREON RELEASE) This is my post "Gnostic Gnonsense" stream conversation with Lloyd at the start of the year. In this we cover much more about liars and how they operate mentally to succeed in their deceit. We also discuss how to recognise the danger physically as he shares his experiences in security and the methods he had to apply to save his and his client's lives. Enjoy!
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[@ogdopefeen4910]

My spirit feels that there is something wrong with what this gentleman is saying. Thank you for the video

[@Frvnklin]

Elaborate?

[@ogdopefeen4910]

@@Frvnklin the things he said that liars do seemed like he was doing and saying those same things. i could be wrong bur when my spirit reacts like this i just head to it. thank you for asking

[@DanTrustsTheFathersPlan]

@ogdopefeen4910 I hear ya..

[@sherylmccollum895]

​@@ogdopefeen4910yeah no

[@lindad3926]

The many vulgar swear words put me off too.

[@thedarkparadox]

12:58 This guy who is said to have a tremendous wealth of knowledge of NLP, manipulation tactics, defensive tactics, Sharia Law and then goes on to say he believes Catholic doctrine to be the true doctrine? Hey Paul, it seems you gave a Jesuit adjudicator a platform to speak. Great job.

[@Alex16547]

Tares in the harvest always mimic.

[@foreignuser_]

yeah i can't take anyone seriously who admits to following catholic doctrine. what a joke

[@jayatchison318]

Paul asked Lloyd about his theology and somehow the answer became redirected, not answering the question. For someone that purports to be a professional conversationalist, leaves me wondering the intent.

[@AmandaChristine]

I’m so glad you caught that too

[@teresalee7738]

Sounds to me like he is Catholic

[@Grace_and_Truth78]

​@@AmandaChristineproverbs 6:12-15 5:45 he gives obeisance to his master Satan

[@Grace_and_Truth78]

​@@AmandaChristineand there's much more. I will let you know when I get around to exposing this lying tare

[@AmandaChristine]

One of the biggest lines from this was said at the very end, that the truth is a weapon. And that is so true. It’s why the Bible tells us the Word, the Truth, is a double edge sword. However, people know this and can then use the truth and spin in against us. men can speak actual truth and then slide in the false perspective of it. This is how all of our his-story has been written, that goes for church history too. Then, make the claim that you are just being defensive when you feel that gut feeling that something is off. They then claim you are just being defensive because it “goes against your narrative”. Trust in your gut people, God is the Spirit of truth. When you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that is God sending you a red flag and to be on high alert. Test all things by the Word. When it contradicts, you know something is off.

[@ogdopefeen4910]

That is true. Thank you

[@foreignuser_]

something interesting to consider. lies can only exist in the context of truth. lies are perversions of the truth. in the same way that Satan lies, he creates nothing new only perverts what is made. truth can stand on its own because that's just the way it is. lies depend on the existence of truth. in this way lies are a lot like parasites

[@radworld]

Lloyd doesn’t seem to even listen to you, arrogance much

[@my2cworth4U]

This is so, as we grow up with the fallacy that others will behave like we would and that we have to do something wrong to be punished. Only experience can overcome this fallacy. I'm 77 and still learning. 🥴

[@jeffwarren8154]

Wow, warning lights came on immediately, he’s a Catholic plant! Deceivers during the short season will use every trick in the book, this guy was easy to read, good to listen to one to study his tactics!

[@Blablabla44475]

Hey can you tell me some things to look out for? I’m kinda new to that, but I got a weird feeling about him too.

[@DanTrustsTheFathersPlan]

His-story is quite possibly trying to burry Luther in my opinion. We all sin however look at who he criticized. Of coarse they are going to ruin the reputation of someone who wrote a book called (the Blank and their lies) Great stuff though Paul, it's obviously good to get all kinds of perspectives, pray on it and let The Holy Spirit guide us.

[@watchmen8564]

My intuitions feeling kind of shaky about your guests I did hear him say he used to work for government faction and he also talks with his hands a lot and he curses. I curse but I actually tried not to what I'm communicating with a large audience because most are turned off by it because it shows of level not being able to articulate

[@enas_one]

Did you catch 30:17 ? Is that what you mean by talks with his hands?

[@Grace_and_Truth78]

​5:45 throws up 666, proverbs6:12-15, plus he has 666 coded into gematria on his own acc

[@watchmen8564]

@Iamdust78 Yes, you are 100% correct. I just did a 15-minute glance over at his bio, and he is in love with duality, coding the number 11 and also using the language illuminate. These are all indicators of Masonic order red pill(red lodge) GateKeeper agent. I see a lot of double speak in his text and people in oratory speak with their hands because they are not listening but continue to feed a message to the person or people their conveying to through the assistance of body language because it shows conviction. But it's a great tactic when using sleight of hand deception through communication of a medium. Lastly, it's as simple as looking at the windows to his soul, which is his eyes that throw me for a loop also.

[@cybyrd3211]

My goodness. A commercial every 3-4 minutes. The type of commercial that just keep going if you don’t skip it. I give. Guess I need to start watching these live.

[@thedarkparadox]

Ublock origin is your friend

[@gcjpcrowder]

No kidding like every 4 min!

[@littleflor2975]

I got no ads whatsoever..

[@cybyrd3211]

@@littleflor2975 well you truly are blessed littleflor.

[@GoddessofChaos79]

I consider myself Christian and not of any denomination anymore.

[@AhjalaArdahnia-ey5fk]

Super interesting. Look forward to next time you have him on.

[@rssfake28]

great conversations .

[@GoddessofChaos79]

My husband grew up Methodist. I never really thought much, I was Presbyterian. We ended up at his church to raise our family eventually. I just recently did a small Bible study there to find out what some of the other people thing about hot topic issues like the multi colored collective. My gut was confirmed with a few people in particular but what I found more surprising was the way these ladies talked about John Wesley. 😵‍💫🤔 You’d think they were all fan girls. 😑😵‍💫 it’s like cult behavior.

[@natm.7073]

Logic!!! Yes. A attack on logic. Amazing as always friend; dropping 💣💣💣💣💣

[@cherylsavage6178]

Yes

[@ivynix6761]

Can you and Lloyd talk about dissociation and dissociative identity disorder. Him talking about how during trauma or an emergency those flashes/ snapshots of the event is how our mind stores it. This has always been interesting to me, I often wonder how we can piece together those memories to make a whole picture even with the different parts of the brain handling it.

[@Pablosan7]

He’s talking about The Trivium, I remember him from the series Unspunn with Jan Irvin (the OG Truther), the episodes can be found at Logos Media II

[@eeleye1624]

he was on there like 7 or 8 times

[@Pablosan7]

⁠yeah did you also listen to that podcasts back in the day? 😄 …I wasn’t a believer back then, but I vaguely remember Jan becomming christian which I didn’t quite understand

[@eeleye1624]

@@Pablosan7 i did! i listened to jan since way back before logos media, when he was still gnostic media. i got there in about 2009 or so. his work saved me from countless intellectual and philosophical cul-de-sacs i had been pulled into. thankful for the trivium education every day. i must have listened to the whole series with lloyd at least 3 or 4 times through. i think the whole 'becoming christian' thing is only the honest result of a lifetime spent unraveling lies. respect.

[@volleyblogSOCAL]

This has nothing to do with this video, but hopefully Paul will see this comment. I just watched 2 going on 3 videos from Cross to Crown Ministries channel about Christs mount olives sermon… it shares the idea of Christ coming in 70 AD but you won’t believe the differences. He shows how Daniel 9 and the sermon are supposed to be interpreted and I think he is onto something. It is from 2 years ago but it’s right up your alley with this all being in the past.

[@Arthur-hy1nf]

Great stuff! The knowledge of good & evil ( via History & God's logic and common sense ) in a nutshell. The last time presenting, you talked @ getting " erased", Sounds correct, becouse i offered an concept, it was added to your U-Tube. But then disappeared very shortly afterward, illogically, i had thought you had disagreed with my thoery & so " erased it". Me,...not wanting to be a " pain " to you, i shrugged it off, now i realize that maybe what i had presented had " a potential ", therefore i'll try again, if i hear you say it's a bad concept, i can accept contentedly that it is so. So here goes ( a repeat as best i can, please bear with me to the end is all i ask ) : ...Let me start with the " why " . God Almighty is ( Holy ), patient with mandkind, Long suffering, Biblical history proves it, giving " chances" time & time again. Right ? The " Chiasmas " of that is Satans ( Or Evils. ), necessary strategy of " Judging ", Mankind,. Spiritually , legalistically, physically, psychologically, and so fourth, [ via Legal Fiat as one example ] its non stop, endless, therefore Brainwashing, leading to guilt, suicide, violence, loathing, HUMAN destruction, etc. OK, SO, Satan, bieng wickend smart, attacks Gods Word and logic using guile and deception ( utilizing minimalism and " slight of hand ". So, by switching two words, ( 2 [ or 3 ] little words !! ). siimilar to something that would happen in the future ( presently ) by / via the changes done in the New Biblical versions now coming out and having had come out.Therefore...2 [ or 3 ] words SWITCHED . Those bieng " Judged " and " Die "( possibly " once " also ). I remember you having conversations/debates with Guests @ " Rebirh V.S. Reincarnation , maybe this will put those talks in a different observation. Therefore, possibly... [ God forgive me if this is wrong ] was it, may it, have originally been intended as : To be... Judged once, [ Gods logical approach and process and spirit of free will to choose to ( finally ) join with The Eternal, or reject it and co-join with the Ego/Rebellion ]..and THEN ( choose to ) die/live [ SPIRITUALLY ] ( forever)???.

[@SAT0R1.]

Great show

[@jenwilding]

Interesting, my background and studies also include teaching people about subconscious mind and behavior. I can easily spot manipulation. But I would flip the orientation he has been speaking of in regard to Roman Catholic vs Protestants and within Protestants I am a bible believer, preferring KJV av1611. Holy spirit discernment involves logic and logic detecting archetypal values. Following this, archetypes even left in false gospels still point to a preferred English translation, if you’re English-speaking. Almost as if God knew there would be deceptions using some truth.

[@AmandaChristine]

Exactly. He spoke a lot of truth and I agreed with a lot he said in other areas. But it was emotional and manipulative. Notice areas when he starts complementing Paul and then what he says before and after. So then you insert the target, or manipulated viewpoint, and as humans we generalize and subconsciously attach a “good” feeling to the other items that are altered. He’s a pro at NLP. It was kind of cool to watch him use it in real time.

[@AmandaChristine]

Exactly. He spoke a lot of truth and I agreed with a lot he said in other areas. But it was emotional and manipulative. Notice areas when he starts complementing Paul and then what he says before and after. So then you insert the target, or manipulated viewpoint, and as humans we generalize and subconsciously attach a “good” feeling to the other items that are altered. He’s a pro at NLP. It was kind of cool to watch him use it in real time.

[@eeleye1624]

lloyd is a real boss. did you ever see his piper knife style?

[@Frvnklin]

Good thing he’s on our side lol He’s a true badass

[@flow4629]

Logic is inherently illogical.

[@n.m.3981]

Disagree that logic is satanic, that is an extreme comment

[@eeleye1624]

martin luther said that

[@mistahkalean6777]

logic (n.) mid-14c., logike, "branch of philosophy that treats of forms of thinking; the science of distinction of true from false reasoning,"

[@mistahkalean6777]

Logic is false. Dont need logic to get the truth. Logic would suggest "god doesnt exist" While the truth about god needs to be sought out.

[@ethanhitchcock5431]

Jesus is the serpent

[@kylenelson9062]

I don’t think they’re ready for that one yet. Maybe start with Yahweh actually being Satan in disguise? How about there being 2 different Jesus’s present during the crucifixion: Jesus the Christ, and Jesus BARABBAS. Barabbas translates to SON OF THE FATHER. 🤔 Matthew 27:16-17 John 5:43

[@ceedee873]

​​​@@kylenelson9062 They were still separate people, that's why the thief on the cross was saved and not the other one who followed after Barabbas. Barrabas means son of the father but they both couldn't be any more separate from each other. Christ is the Prince of Peace and Barabbas was an insurrectionist rebelling against Roman authority, which Christ wasn't interested in as that's earthly concerns, that's why they chose Barabbas over Christ because they were of the flesh/world which Barabbas represented with his sinful lifestyle of murder and robbery etc. which Christ lead the complete opposite lifestyle from, and furthermore if they really were the same person then Jesus Christ would have been released as well given that logic..

[@kylenelson9062]

@@ceedee873 Yes, I know how the mainstream narrative goes. I have read scripture for myself and don’t need to hear the narrative over and over again, there are churches for that. I pray to ABBA who then gives me the necessary discernment I need through his HOLY SPIRIT which then leads me to truth. ABBA and his ONLY SON transcend any written books or doctrines by men about them, and it’s absolutely crucial to meditate on the words that are revealed to us in those books.

[@ceedee873]

@@kylenelson9062 The word used as begotten in Greek actually means a direct extension, so the Son is a direct extension of the Father, hence why they are the same person, and you mean to say you're praying to THE Holy Spirit, not His Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is a person as well and they are both the same person, The Father, Son and Holy Spirit.. that's just the nature of our triune God.

[@Trickmyster777]

Something is off with this guy

[@eeleye1624]

says a channel with no content but 8 subscribers...................................................................

[@Frvnklin]

Like what?

[@watchmen8564]

That is crazy I am with you on that. He knows more than what he's explaining and he's being measured and what he says.

[@ryanlee2546]

​​@@eeleye1624 What's your point? You need subscribers and content of your own to have a valid opinion on KZbin?

[@the_real_mcgarvyer9]

Hey, If you are going to make a blank statement like that you have to have some form of evidence to prove what you are saying is true.

[@valdorobantu290]

Most of this is about mk ultra bots. Theres a whole book of triggers for them.... great video though, lots of information! Thanks Paul and Lloyd