Geoffrey Jackson explains bizarre Jehovah's Witness beliefs on the resurrection

(Rebuttals Sushi no. 227 - Reviewing the 2021 Annual Meeting Part 2 of 4) In a talk intended to reveal "new light" on the resurrection, Geoffrey Jackson begins with a lengthy rundown of the current teaching, i.e. 100 billion people who have ever lived gradually returning from the dead into a totalitarian panda-strewn dystopia.
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[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

I just _love_ how the Governing Body doubles down on their own bullshit.

[@Milliardo5]

I find it amusing how the GB members are so full of themselves.

[@outtadarkness1970]

@@Milliardo5, That is amusing, but the control they exercise over "the flock" is downright scary!

[@outtadarkness1970]

@@Flashheartwoof, Too bad logic is totally lost on them!

[@jimmchemings6140]

A Bee Gee that refuse to stay alive. OMG too funny !

[@ThatGirl0930]

@@outtadarkness1970 because they got the brainwashed witnesses thinking they are gods, thinking they are Christ brothers, thinking that they speak for God and from God. Classic cult control.

[@maycowelding]

I was a JW for over forty years..and to my knowledge there were only ever two roads,one wide road which leads to destruction,and a narrow road which leads to life and that was it..It was very clear back then that there was never a middle road,there was no sitting on the fence ,you were either a sheep or a goat that’s it.. Thank you Lloyd for talking about this subject,you express exactly what many of us are thinking..🙏🏻👍👍

[@JamesRichardWiley]

I guess the Perfect Divine Plan sends most of us to a place of eternal torture and damnation. But don't forget Jesus loves everybody.

[@outtadarkness1970]

Isn't it amazing how much the "The Truth" has changed? Real truth does not change. One of the primary ways to tell if someone is LYING is their story keeps CHANGING! 🤨🤔

[@eileenalexander1440]

@@JamesRichardWiley Everybody?

[@matt-z5j]

As far as I know the original teaching of Russell, was universalism where even Adam and Eve would be resurrected

[@hehawkiller]

I haven’t been a JW for over 25 years now, and I’ve seen a lot of change since then till now! It’s quite disgusting how much they have changed their teachings!

[@davee.9906]

Hearing Mr. Jackson read that story really made me laugh. How do adults believe this stuff?

[@knowthyself8233]

Cause people like fairy tale 🤣🤣

[@hustonmices3976]

I used to believe if you touched their coattail you would get some of their Holy Spirit. All they have is Satans’s spirit their father of lies

[@ronnycorea2660]

Jehovah Witness are clueless about the multibillions dollar market driven by the deceptions and the irrationality of the watchtower corporation.

[@cygnustsp]

@@ronnycorea2660 sure, most are, because they don't understand how markets work. I don't blame watchtower for their economic prowess. I'm a stock trader and I benefit from selling high to suckers. But it does piss me off that hard working people like my jw mom give them money every week when she needs it a lot more than they need it.

[@outtadarkness1970]

Because they have been conditioned to believe it...sad, but true.

[@tarynelise225]

To spend your entire life torturing yourself as a JW to have your name written in pencil 😂 lmao

[@knowthyself8233]

😂😂

[@diannejewell4410]

😂

[@dizzygoat8379]

Exactly 😂

[@mr.atheist8848]

😂😂😂

[@ZoeBellCake]

Imagine dedicating your whole life to Jehovah and actually making it into the paradise earth and then seeing Hitler standing there lol

[@NIL0S]

PS: stop hating on goats. Goats are some of the smartest and nicest animals.

[@DavidTaylor-ki2ir]

I love goats too. They’re cute, clever, and playful. Goats are the Greatest of All Time!

[@54spatula]

@@DavidTaylor-ki2ir I wanted to write that! 😡

[@hustonmices3976]

Don’t forget to donate if you want to be Jehovah’s friend

[@jamesmcginn8874]

Bottle of Whisky goes to Lett

[@morningglory9288]

I recall many moons ago that I mentioned the resurrection craziness to an elderette. I said those who have died before armageddon strikes are in a far better position than those who are alive during armageddon. At least the dead can be sure they'll get a resurrection, whereas those who are living may not make it. She was speechless, just a stony cold look came over her. 😳😳😳

[@phoenixchick5088]

I wonder how many ppl that teaching has caused to commit suicide. Thinking it was the only chance ..

[@elainebraindrain3174]

@@phoenixchick5088 too many

[@dizzygoat8379]

@@phoenixchick5088 oh hey right here ✋

[@phoenixchick5088]

@@elainebraindrain3174 That part is what messed me up the most. By the time I learned that teaching, I was already far enough along to the point where ur "too far to turn back". She would start saying I knew enough now that if I turned away if basically be rejecting my chance. I knew deep down there was no way I could fully conform to all that. So I really was walking around feeling like 1 of these days I'm just gonna have to suck it up and take the loophole. I figured I'd be able to feel when the time was right. How sick is that, that they got me there mentally. Thats the main thing that bothers me, that they actually got me there.

[@CBrown86]

Elderette? Omg im ded that is awesome

[@jessek8114]

So the GOAT Wayne Gretzky won’t be playing hockey in paradise? How disappointing.

[@stevengardner7216]

No Valentino Rossi either....how disappointing 🙃.

[@justinrfds3187]

Making things right with family is required for book of life. They obviously don't believe that since they double down on shunning. My jdub family say they believe in the bible but only if watchtower approved. Its stupid and occult.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

I see that Jesus wants the "sheeplike" ones. I guess the independent critical thinkers are a problem for him.

[@outtadarkness1970]

@@JamesRichardWiley, They are certainly a problem for his "Faithful and Discreet Slave"! 🤢

[@crossroadcircleoffical]

Mega sushi, sushi platter, sushi roll. I literally play these knowing full well that I already watched the full video.🤣 I only watch re runs of The Simpsons, family guy, South Park, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, the office, and Lloyd Evans.

[@DavidTaylor-ki2ir]

Same, haha!

[@kirstenkkelley]

The multiple Bee Gees mentions and the reference of Stayin’ Alive was seriously the absolute funniest moments for me for this video and I can’t stop laughing. Thank you so much 😂

[@seaglass64]

Totally agree, I am still giggling, though I should be crying as so many members of my family still believe in this Fantasy.

[@theprodigy20p]

I loved the beegees humour. Thanks Lloyd it makes it so much easier to not get traumatized again by this scaremongering.

[@mr.atheist8848]

And why do they have beards? The JWs have an unwritten rule on beards isn't it? 🤔🤔🤔

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

Earth will be ruled by 144,000 Grammy Winners.

[@eragonzaroc]

And now for winner of best song written for a Bible Action film in the universe......... (opens envelope) Jesus!

[@peteowen3539]

Kenny Rogers(s)

[@BluetheRaccoon]

I adore you, Lloyd! I came for the weird belief stories but I'm living for the Beegees jokes!

[@tbug8224]

I tried explaining this to my partner recently who was raised baptist. He said it didn’t make sense at all. I agreed. We are happy we are free from all supernatural religious nonsense.

[@susanepp2707]

Never having been JW I can assure you this comes off as super bazaar.

[@tuntun8935]

This belief come from acts 24:15

[@benevolentdictator9100]

a super bazaar? it sells everything?

[@tuntun8935]

Every people will be saved

[@claricestarling6510]

No more bazaar then flying up to Heaven or burning in a fiery furnace

[@tuntun8935]

@@claricestarling6510 they don't believe on hell

[@bgramirez966]

This is the same Geoffrey Jackson that said at the ARC "it is presumptuous to say that WT is the only channel of truth on earth"

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

If you are giving "new light" with violins playing in the background, you _must_ be telling the truth! So, sign me up, Geoffrey Jackson!

[@monicalinson3682]

I ♥️ your humor Lloyd. I appreciate the BeeGee references.

[@graytonw5238]

Same here, I laughed at the reference to "stayin' alive"! I see what you did there, Lloyd!

[@tommysmith5479]

It's a tragedy!

[@f0rm0r]

imagine getting into Paradise and still having to wear those stiff uncomfortable cream slacks

[@stevenclarke5606]

These cream pants will be standard issue and the only option!

[@deepfriedbrains__437]

Incoming transmission from-- Aug, 23rd 2286: Hey Cedar's! Hitler's getting into it; he was all about 'removing' things you know. Sorry Lloyd, you had your chance and didn't see the genius of it all. Better luck next time 👍 Oh wait, you don't get a next time. Well, bummer for you. I gotta go anyway; studying 'you can live forever' with Hilter at 3pm. He's really progressing quickly, and turns out he loves pandas! Who would have thought?

[@NIL0S]

We don't talk about money, but you have to give freely if you wanna be in the Book of Life.

[@knowthyself8233]

It would be presumptuous to even believe what coming out of his mouth 😂😂

[@kennyfrien-i]

Appreciate the ARC allusion... 😎

[@knowthyself8233]

@@kennyfrien-i 😎👍🏿

[@jonwoodmass2849]

Good reference 😂

[@easybeautybyniccolebordino8368]

Absolute BALONEY. I never believed any of this when I was forced into JW life. Even As a child it seemed unfair, unloving, confusing, convoluted, contrived, and down right ridiculous. Honestly I’d be mad if I was a JW now. Spending my whole life preaching only to have to do more preaching and teaching in this “new world”. What the heck 🙃 The sad part is there are sheeple who wholehearted believe this. And yes you are right Lloyd - Hilter can come back - but my sister a good person who just decided to live her life on her own terms won’t. 🙃🙃🙃🙃 What’s incredible is the cult just keeps doubling down on its crap.

[@mr.atheist8848]

19:30 On point Lloyd! It means serial killers, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and many others will be resurrected because they didn't sin against the spirit. How ridiculous their "new" light is. 😂😂😂

[@stephaniegoggin7952]

Lloyd you hit the nail on the head with vile people getting resurrection. So hitler and many others get it? Ted bundy Charlie Manson. Sounds like a great place….

[@morningglory9288]

Not much to look forward to if your a JW. Even if you survive armageddon and make it to live on a new paradise earth, they'll be kept so busy preaching and teaching newly resurrected unrighteous ones, there'll be no time left to enjoy paradise. What if they don't want to preach and teach, will they be written out of the book of life? If there's going to be a grim griefer lurking around in paradise ready to 'remove' any defiant people who refuse to learn Jehovahs ways, again doesn't say much for their paradise.

[@mrgordy1980]

I’ve wondered about this. I heard years ago, if you think the preaching work is complete when the end comes…. No, it’s only just begun. I’ve not read this in any scripture. The problem I have with JW, is the plethora of man made ideas, most around control, to never let you free of the idea that you will be accountable above and beyond normality. I mean, will they continue the monthly field service report? Pioneering in the new system… I can only imagine… I’d have more respect if they mentioned the scripture about new scrolls being opened up in the new world and… we don’t actually know what our roles will be or how things will unfold. Not everything requires an in-depth answer whereby they make it up as they go along.

[@Letts_prey]

That and imagine having 144,000 Morris, Splane and Jackson types sitting up there and watching you all the time. “Heaven calling earth. Heaven calling earth. The small fork goes on the outside of the big fork, and keep your mouth shut when you’re chewing.” They’re going to get bored, what with all those myriad of angels interfering too. Forever. And ever. Still, Morris will still get to light his matches and gloat over destruction for the first thousand years, looking forward to satan’s release again. Sausages.

[@mrgordy1980]

@@Letts_prey Yes, I have to agree his lighting of the match was particularly disturbing. Even more the audience that laughed along. Wasn’t there a scripture about a few ones that gloated, it didn’t end well for them. I also think about that scripture in Revelation that says get out of her my people, sometimes I’m convinced that it’s one’s like us that scripture refers to. Jw’s sins have massed clear up to heaven on all accounts. So many things I’m disappointed with, I’m 41 and I’ve lost the better years to this despicable excuse for earthly representation of god. The 2005 Branch guidelines for handling elders with prior history of touching children was the final nail in the coffin for me. The forgiveness was overwhelming, as were the excuses to how they can remain in their position… pages and pages of sweeping it under the rug. Then I was criticized for having it verified, I was told I should be ashamed that I’ve broken privacy and view documents not meant for me.

[@Letts_prey]

@@mrgordy1980 Yep. I’ll echo that, “get out of her”. It’s not until you finally do, that you get a chance to step back from it all, and really see it for the nonsense and the deceit is really is. Sorry you’ve lost all those years, many of us have. Hope you make up for it 👍

[@mrgordy1980]

@@Letts_prey thank you, and likewise. So true about stepping back. There is not a single person I know within my circle of previous ones, that can see what I see. Nothing repulses them, nothing bothers them. A sister I knew ended her life in her car at the Kingdom Hall car park because she couldn’t face the elders. The standard response, even though many were shocked was “oh well, she’ll get a resurrection” will she? I remember them saying those ones who do that, won’t be resurrected so which is it. But not one of them I knew thought this was anything other than what it was, sad but ah well “she’s made it”.. 27 years old. To follow on from that scripture.. get out of her “my people” I thought witnesses weren’t apart of her to begin with so what’s there to get out of. I’ve read the entire chapter, so I’m not taking it out of context… her shameless luxury? Funny how everyone high up in churches generally live in luxury, I’ve been to bethel in upstate.. and like the Catholics no one knows where the money goes, and thank you Splane for saying it’s ok to ask the elders where the money is… ah yeah right, lies. Ok I’m done, thank you kindly whoever you are for listening to me

[@joannasellors1374]

I'm not a JW but i've been watching your videos for years because they are just so absolutely fascinating, humourous and downright bonkers!

[@clarity2478]

Imagine being so full of it ...that they speak with "authority" !!

[@freddyray6805]

It's so sad what this does to the minds of young kids that are in separated households due to this religion. They need to say to themselves that my loving mum or dad that does everything for me and is a good person will die due to the WT weird teaching. How abusive.

[@HeliRy]

I wonder how many believers have ever actually contemplated the meaning of “eternity”? Even in a paradise on earth, when you’ve been there for one trillion years… how does that not become just a fancy hell? Nope, no thanks. Even if I’m wrong and there is indeed a fireball with my name on it, it’s better than an eternity in their paradise.

[@calvinmarkpayne]

It's so easy to be precise and detailed when you're making it all up.

[@UKS12345]

I spent 60 plus years believing once I got through Armageddon then I was deemed to live forever. Now it’s conditional, what’s the point in struggling for a thousand years still on trial?

[@raverider2327]

A new study published in Frontiers in Zoology on July 10, 2019 has confirmed that goats can differentiate between other goats’ happiness or displeasure by listening to their voices. In other words, they can tell how one another is feeling. Goats are intelligent, social animals. I'm PROUD to be a GOAT 🐐

[@kamion53]

if that is so, goats have more sense and social skill then the Governing Body, which only sense the differences between condescending smug and condescending non-smug.

[@SheilaTrueLove]

They are NOT as INNOCENT as you think. The information is out there and they have no excuses for not knowing better. They display a deliberate ignorance and refusal to accept reality because they think they’re so smart and know everything, which makes them prideful. If they are NAIVE it is because they CHOOSE to be. As ADULTS we are responsible for the choices we make. This is extremely critical and VERY important. People have been HURT and not just a few have DIED, also many FAMILIES have been DESTROYED and DIVIDED because of the evil and blatantly hypocritical power mongering overlords they follow, rather than God‘s word. It is quite understandable that people have animosity toward this organization and it’s leaders. They have caused SO much PAIN and SORROW and have DESTROYED hundreds of thousands if not millions of peoples lives and careers. They have stolen peoples LIVES and SOULS, so I can understand why so many people would want to see this Organization's FALL. Hopefully many more HUMBLE and HONEST HEARTED ones within the organization will WAKE UP from the mind controlling PRISON they are in and wake up to the fact that the Governing Body is NOT in harmony and in accord with God’s spirit or word. We may have RELATIVES in this Organization, but they are not FAMILY. Jesus Christ said you will know his TRUE FOLLOWERS and DISCIPLES by the LOVE they have among themselves..(NOT LOVE BOMBING. Once they feel they have you LOCKED in, the LOVE BOMBING Fizzles out, and then comes the GASLIGHTING, DEVALUING, and then the DISCARD). When Jesus said "LOVE EACH OTHER", He is talking about ALL CHRISTIANS. (1 Corinthians 12:12-13) Jehovah Witnesses teach us to AVOID other Christians who are also a part of the BODY OF CHRIST and to deem them as WORLDLY. They are a very DANGEROUS CULT. You know it's a CULT because look at what happens when you LEAVE, or try to LEAVE. They will PUNISH and try to DESTROY you and your family relations. They are nothing but MODERN DAY PHARISEES.

[@clarity2478]

The jdubs always say "well he died before armageddon so now he can come back!" Whoops it doesn't sound like that is gong to happen.

[@eragonzaroc]

Jesus decides, so send money to him.

[@annelieswallace237]

All the bible figures in this video are depicted with beards. So why are JWs prohibited to wear them now?

[@trishayamada807]

I’m sorry, it just all sounds so silly.

[@jacketrussell]

That's because it all nonsense.

[@urmenyi]

So Jehova’s day is the day when again he will strike de human kind with punishment and suffering. Very kind and sweet. All it comes because he loves us very very much and will not drown us this time. Oh how generous he is, how fair…

[@indiagxoxo493]

The real hell is living stressing all that armageddon stuff is better to have peace now and whatever happens we deal with it when it comes 💀💀😅

[@cherylseebreth328]

Laszio, Its so unfair. All I did was fornicate and say that Watchtower is an evil nasty cult. How is that worse than Hitler and the brutal slave masters. My name is definitely first in the book of life.🤣🤣🤣

[@sherriemills3960]

Seeing this video I feel so confused all this wasn’t taught when I grew up in it

[@caseyf9697]

Imagine being resurrected and then having to be lectured to by those aS@#$ That would be my definition of hell

[@darh3375]

And told…an assigned living place and an assigned job ! No thank you !

[@WendiRenay]

Lloyd you’re almost at 100k! LETS GOOOOOO!

[@phoenixchick5088]

Even tho the propaganda is bs, I always think the angels look pretty bad ass. This time it made me think of Sylvester Stallone as 1 😆 Rambo angels bringing Armageddon ⚡

[@SlyPearTree]

Do you mean like at 5:30? Aren't those the "goats"?

[@phoenixchick5088]

Oh not them. The actual angels. They're always perfectly buff. And that 1 convention video where 1 flapped down and wiped out a whole camp of ppl.

[@annegretheryan9908]

In 1990 's Sylvester Stallone were used AS Jesus in Their painting illustrations in the book " The greatest man WHO ever lived" I'm not sure about this iwas ment to honor RAMBO or Jesus.

[@diannejewell4410]

I need a flow chart.

[@eragonzaroc]

The flow chart is classified material. Please write your requests to the anointed.

[@krampus408]

Scares the crap out of me and frustrates me too! It’s really frustrating!!

[@susanepp2707]

The Seventh day Adventist also teach once a person was a SDA to leave " the truth" code for denouncing SDA'ism is to loose eternal life.

[@eragonzaroc]

SDA, that means Sort of Damned, but Admissible?

[@stephenvos2398]

Liars wont get a resurrection so Geoffrey Jackson wont qualify for lying at the Australian royal commission.🤣🤣

[@barryroberts7159]

Funny how the Watchtower video for righteous ones montage jumps thousands of years to the 20 century!!

[@indelyn7143]

As a young jdub many decades ago, I was taught the finer details weren’t worth thinking about, Jehovah will provide

[@BethHeadley]

It’s kind of funny because according to JW doctrine, it’s actually better to be completely ignorant of all religion so that you can be resurrected as an unrighteous person. Unless Armageddon comes while you are still alive. So really to be guaranteed a resurrection you should die before the great tribulation starts. That’s how everyone will be resurrected lol 😂 loopholes 101

[@eragonzaroc]

Jesus decides, not those goats called GB.

[@morningglory9288]

It's why some JW's commit suicide.

[@BethHeadley]

@@morningglory9288 I know…. It’s horrible!

[@motorway2roswell]

Mark 3:33 - "whether you're a mother, or whether you're a brother, you're stayin' alive"

[@lilycat1694]

Great, 1,000 years of meetings, preaching and teaching to those being resurrected, theocratic activity galore……, Welcome to Paradise!

[@bennypagesaunders6895]

The 'Resurrection of the unrighteous ' has always been an uncomfortable conversation and a rather darkly comical, surreal, scenario that was often a subject for debate when I was a witness. Firstly, most of the time if this ever came up on the door (and it did from time to time) the householder would ask it from a preconceived (as I understood it) misconception that witnesses believed all non-believers were going to die at armaggeddon. I certainly don't think this was ever what the WBTC openly said as most witnesses I ever knew didnt honestly believe that was the case and nobody ever admitted that was the doctrine. Most times it was 'only Jehovah can judge a person's heart and mind.' That was kind of the skirt round the issue stock answer which is really what the Bible says. It talks about Jesus separating the sheep from the goats and a Resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous. Seems the WBTC are now saying that only baptised witnesses alive at Armaggedon are worthy, this sort of black and white thinking seems to be a return to the 70's and early 80's . As for Resurrection of the unrighteous most witnesses I knew (Lloyd; you grew up in the Jdubs like me- odd as it might sound to some if I had a fiver for every time the 'will Hitler get a second chance? ' question came up- it was a pretty regular one ; surreal as the moral dilemma is. I digress! Most Witnesses I knew felt he was 'toast' as he was guilty of crimes against the Holy spirit. Persecution of the witnesses; Killing conscientious catholics etc also there was the not insignificant matter of 6 million Jews and generally precipitating the Earth into the most costly period of death and misery the world has ever experienced. There were some who always used to point to the wickedness of the Israeli King Mannasseh who God apparently forgave . The idea to me that somehow a witness who goes out and sells books on the street is somehow more deserving than a woman who has given up.her comfy life and works in an African hospital looking after orphaned kids whose parents have died of Aids , or an NHS nurse who has given her all for sick kids with cancer or elderly people with dementia ..this is what makes differences in lives

[@toomyconne768]

Are they high?

[@toomyconne768]

@@glitterinmyeyes333 So where will all these billions of people live in the new world? Jehovahs witnesses only existed since the 1800s. So everyone before that is getting resurrected?? 😶🤣

[@skyenelson1448]

Holy crap... I need some of Tony Morris bottles of alcohol to listen to Jackson rhetoric 😂😂😂

[@jackthomas6952]

The very same “ Goats” witnesses hire to protect their asses at Memorial celebrations.

[@Milliardo5]

Funny how GB members automatically put themselves as the anointed. Not even Catholic clergy would dare put themselves as automatically going to heaven, yet here are the GB members who already see themselves to even be better than God and made the judgment on themselves, yet they might be surprised as Jesus said that the tax collectors and harlots would be the first in line to go to heaven. Amusing really.

[@rwssel2.052]

The resurrected will remain the age they died? Kids will remain kids or they will grow up? The everlasting life is a joke!

[@steann1]

That's why some jdubs topped themselves...better to be resurrected a goat than be murdered forever by god at armageddon.. ..it's all twisted reasoning...

[@josecarlosrodriguez9876]

They should include this explanation on the letters they're sending everyone. "By the way if you don't become one of us you'll be sinning against the spirit and die"

[@eileenalexander1440]

He wouldn't know - He completely denied being part of their fraudulent activity. Australian Royal Commision

[@ThatGirl0930]

So, he says that the "unrighteous" didn't get to know God before dying. Then what about those good people who are alive at Armageddon who didn't "study" with jw's? Are they as well classified as unrighteous? Good people doing good things, have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior and help others with a generous heart, reading and studying the Bible daily, but just are not jw's; they get killed? Hmmm, doesn't add up, nor make sense.

[@chrimsonshane2132]

Their bullshit sounds more crazy than ever. I didn't think that was possible. I've been out of the org 30 years. 👊🏽

[@lolo8288]

OMG LLOYD!! He said the EXACT same thing I have been wondering. . . . Can't "god" just make you disappear if he want to destroy you . . .WHY THE FLOOD, WHY ARMAGEDDON???? Makes no sense.

[@morningglory9288]

Why does the WT God have to be such a murderous God? When God created life in Genesis chptr one, everything was created to perfection. Then Jehovah comes along in Genesis chptr 2. He is a different God to the original, a God who wanted all glory honour and worship for himself. He hated the creation of the true God, so brought on the flood to destroy everything that was good. He is the same God JW's worship, he is a murder and a deceiver, he is Satan the devil.

[@lolo8288]

@@JH-yi7qc Exactly what are they learning if they're DEAD?????🧐

[@lolo8288]

@@JH-yi7qc what can u THINK about CONSEQUENCES if you are DEAD????? 🙄

[@lolo8288]

@@JH-yi7qc It's why people don't want murderers to get the DEATH PENALTY. They feel like they get off EASY by getting to die They rather them get LIFE IN PRISON because they have to instantly fear for their lives in prison which is worse. Do you GET IT NOW??????

[@lolo8288]

@@JH-yi7qc No, you're actually MISSING THE POINT. If you're alive . . . You can continue to SUFFER for what you've done. If you're dead . . . You're no longer suffering as a CONSEQUENCE of your actions. Like people that commit suicide . . . They want to be at peace & stop suffering. If you don't understand NOW . . . I'M DONE.

[@PastaMaster115]

What the absolute hell, Lloyd?!? Hahahaha The staying alive joke bahahahaha! I'm trying to do laundry and I'm dying! lol

[@cherylseebreth328]

I can put my head on a block that Jackson does not believe the utter rubbish he is spewing.

[@cherylseebreth328]

@@JH-yi7qc and that be all it is.

[@knowthyself8233]

Of course not

[@cherylseebreth328]

@@knowthyself8233 what did JH omit? Pray tell!

[@knowthyself8233]

@@cherylseebreth328 Stephen Lett has a pinky ring and we know what it means in masonry world.

[@justinthyme5382]

That would be PRESUMPTUOUS to say anything against dear Geoffrey. Remember that he's an Aussie through and through. I'll put my head on a block too, ( as long as it's Chocolate) hi Cheryl from Perth Australia.

[@JohnDoeSchmoe]

So if you've lived a very good life, helping others and generally just being a nice person who contributed to society, but are not a believing JW _two seconds_ before Armageddon starts, you're toast. But if you're that same person and are "lucky enough" to die from heart failure _two seconds_ before Armageddon starts, you're granted a resurrection into a paradise where you'll see proof of everything, where there was none before. Sounds perfectly reasonable and fair....!

[@Ballykeith]

I guess they've gotta draw the line somewhere and we're probably talking microseconds either way. Shame too for newborns - and what of foetuses? Will depend on who they're inside.

[@nallelilawrence1169]

😂

[@barryroberts7159]

Their names are written in pencil in the book of life?? Another way to control!!

[@SlyPearTree]

I'm no Bible scholar but I can't think of many instance of God killing people without making them suffer first. The only one I can think of is that lady who got turned into a pillar of salt, assuming it was instantaneous.

[@eragonzaroc]

She had a strong taste of sea salt in her mouth and then, it was over.

[@daabee236]

I’ve known so many nice exmormons and jw’s. Far nicer than the ones practicing because they aren’t afraid everyone else is the devil. Sad.

[@juliaabadi6812]

You need that on a T-ahirt: Lloyd Evans: Worse than Vlad the Impaler.

[@johnw5584]

In " Paradise", they show such nice homes. Beautiful windows, bricks, sized lumber, painted homes, shingles. And the homes are in beautiful settings; remote wilderness. I didn't see any candles, so they use electricity, powerd by wind or solar. Clothing doesn't last forever, so they will need new clothing. All of which begs the question; who will be making all of these things? They will need roads, maintained, trucks, etc. So that means fuel, drilling and refining of the petroleum. So what has changed? They will have mundane meaningless jobs, for all of eternity? They would need copper mined, to make into wire, to wrap into coils, then transported, to the factory to assemble into a generator. Then driven into the wilderness to be used by some lucky person, who will be home to enjoy it. While others are doing the same work that they have always done. There are so many things that would be needed to attain the level of "Paradise", it would only be a Paradise for the few. Even nails to build the homes, think if all what is required. Unless God is going to make it all out of thin air, it's not a Paradise.

[@morningglory9288]

Exactly, someone has to keep the infrastructure operating. What about all the resurrected people, where they're all gonna live? The WT publications show isolated houses scattered here and there amongst snowy ranges, a few people here and there with smiley faces picking juicy red apples, with a table laden with all sorts of delicious food. Animals are peaceful, It's a beautiful idyllic fantasy, but that is all it is. 🙄🙄🙄

[@raeroms9589]

So so logically true. Modern civilization is grossly underrated. Who will make and distribute toothpaste. How will we pay for stuff? Who will manufacture the money.?

[@stevenclarke5606]

This is where this Bullshit falls apart, because it’s just not possible.

[@janheard3826]

@@raeroms9589 When i was a JW and questioning all this paradise nonsense, the elder suggested there would be a bartering system as there definitely won’t be money in paradise. I was also told we would go back to horse and cart, there would be no manufacturing so therefore no washing machines so back to washing clothes with a washboard at the river’s edge. Sounds a bit like it will be going back to the dark ages.

[@raeroms9589]

@@janheard3826 exactly. We are going straight into the dark ages. And most the resurrected people will soon die of starvation.😂😂😂. “God “ has to do what IT has never done ever. Put food on the table and wipe our A s s e s with divine tissue paper. Cos no one will he making such

[@bobdobbs8700]

I'm guessing that Hitler's persecution of the Bible Students could be taken as an implicit rejection of their message. But Hitler was hardly the most prolific mass murderer in history. Stalin, Khan, Tepesh, Pizzaro et all will be given a 2nd chance in the New System. I sure hope for Gandhi's sake that he didn't have the misfortune of hearing the good news in his lifetime... Question for any experts in JW doctrine: Are unbaptized publishers who have left the Truth guilty of sinning against the Holy Spirit?

[@whimsicalwoodpecker]

I always wondered why I've been teached both that Jehovah will read the state of people's hearts And that if I won't preach to people they'll die and I'll be responsible for it

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

Hi, Lloyd. I promised you that if I found where I recalled reading that people such as Hilter would not be resurrected. So far, I have not found anything. I asked a few fellow Ex-JDubs that were in the organization the same time I was. They can't recall anything about the subject. It might've been that I heard a talk in which someone mentioned this, and I'm thinking that I read it in the WT's literature. I'll keep looking just in case.

[@eragonzaroc]

I remember it too, but cannot recall where. Maybe if you watch the Hitler Videos on YT, it might be covered again.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

@@eragonzaroc - My memory is that he was listed with Pontius Pilate as sinners against Jehovah's Spirit by attacking his people, and Pontius for not stopping Jesus from getting impaled.

[@LloydEvans]

Thanks! I think it's telling that there's no clear language ruling out a resurrection for Hitler given his conspicuous notoriety in history, at least not that we have found so far.

[@leicafox4403]

I'm looking too and can't find anything. I seem to recall there being sentiment that Hitler wouldn't be resurrected, but I don't specifically recall reading that anywhere, or if it was just one of the many, many questions I ran around asking as a kid trying to figure out wtf was going on with LIFE lol. I've even gone looking in the context of simply "unforgivable sins" to see if maybe Hitler is buried in there as an example... so far, nothing!

[@GRACEFS1]

What's up with the music behind these talks? It it to put the JWs under a spell, it's just creepy to me

[@eragonzaroc]

It's added for drama. Like any spooky film.

[@HGANGHONY]

There is no end to their convoluted theology.

[@rickwilkerson3865]

The New Testament speaks of only 2 types of people, the Children of God and the Children of the Devil. 1 John 3:10. And Jesus himself speaks of only 2 outcomes at Matthew 25:31-41 on the day he returns. This idea of 3rd party candidates having to prove themselves under the supervision of Splane and company now and in the new world order seem mighty presumptuous and tortuous.

[@ablue7335]

I love your speculation, talking it out like that, makes it really that much more unbelievably ridiculously terrible.. “The thing with Lying the more you go in and pixilate it the more it falls apart!” Hell yes!

[@RogerDeelaw]

"Who will teach this unrighteous?" I am more keen to know, who prints all these publications they apparently use to teach them after Armageddon.

[@xTROLLINGx]

We are all goats. Greatest of All Times

[@eragonzaroc]

naaaa naaaaaa,

[@ejmills991]

Bhaaaaa

[@freddyray6805]

23:09 - that's such a grim outlook. Can you imagine a scenario like The Purge? When faithful JW can actually go out and execute devine judgement on these that just want to live their lives.

[@terridovey7648]

They're "new light" and all their teachings are from the gb's imaginations. How much more WRONG can they get this? ALL people saved by Jesus are righteous, annointed by the Holy Spirit and are written in the book of life. The gb and all who worship them are considered the "goats" and they don't even know it. SMH...😔

[@theamazingfuzzlord]

Lloyd just can't help but make long form videos!

[@LloydEvans]

Some are long, some are short.

[@eileenalexander1440]

?

[@727Phoenix]

When my mother told me our family doctor, who we all loved and admired, had passed away she was grateful he (worldly) died now instead of at Armageddon. He _will_ be resurrected. Yet even as a believer I felt there's something wrong here. It's the same comfort one JW sister had when her worldly son died. Back then I felt there's something wrong there. Now of course I know exactly what's wrong here! btw, which group will my cats be in? They deserve life more than some asshole humans I know of that will be resurrected! nevermind, just kidding.

[@mailill]

They'll go to cat heaven, of course. You can choose to go there as well, as kitty staff.

[@727Phoenix]

@@mailill Cat heaven. Isn't that the same place as mouse&bird hell?

[@mailill]

@@727Phoenix You know, I think you might be right ... 😸

[@steann1]

It reminds of the Sodom & Gomorrah resurrection dilemma. Depending which decade, the answer was.. Yes.. no .. maybe.. we don’t know .. can you repeat the question.

[@ricksanchez1472]

I got put, and I tell them you're not the boss of me now, you're not the boss of me now, you're not the boss of me now and you're not do big! Life is unfair isn't it.

[@steann1]

@@ricksanchez1472 .. 🎼 Life is unfairrrrrr 🎼

[@OscarWithC]

I was taught that at the end of the 1000 year kingdom when satan will be released for a short while he would be destroyed with the unfaithfull of the resurected. But here it seems like they will be killed off from year 0 to year 1000 what is the correct teaching according to JW?

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

At least when I came into this organization, 35 years ago, it was taught that people would die from year 0 to year 1000.

[@jacqwerner7919]

I was taught the same thing that we wouldn't reach Perfection until the thousand years and then Satan would be let out and everybody would be tempted again and then whoever went with Satan would be thrown into the Lake of Fire second death and whoever obeyed God and Jesus would live forever and ever and ever

[@eragonzaroc]

Stay turned after commercial break about Healthcare.

[@Kat-zj1tc]

These guys are just making this up as they go!

[@slartybartfast1]

The human race has a long way to go if people can't take responsibility for themselves rather than looking to ancient books and fables. I fear the maturity of the human ape might never be achieved. 😳

[@UKS12345]

Why can’t it be the case that EVERYONE has their hearts tested after Armageddon gods war not humans) whether they know god or not? That’s a simple way of having a new order. Then, when they realise that god has saved them but they must worship him to remain, only the idiots will revolt and chooses not to

[@dominichsweden]

A point of his bubble (a refuse to call it a talk or a speech) that got my special attentions that the unrighteous will be closely watched by Jesus AND HOS FELLOW JUDGES, meaning that they’re appointing themselves as final judges, something the Bible claims is God’s exclusive right. It’s sounds to me they’re claiming to become gods like their Jesus is a minor god, upon the installation of “the new system”. I find that very much disturbing.

[@knowthyself8233]

You going to sick to your stomach if you watch the last speech of Samuel Herd about the Gb as judge. 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@jeffreycarroll5920]

Well, sounds like we’re goners!😂😂

[@dizzygoat8379]

Proud Goat here! 🐐

[@dominichsweden]

Bah-bah 🐐

[@jannewton5951]

Me too

[@Nathan-jq1uw]

I love goats. They are smart.

[@tiadiad]

1:13 "...in pencil, as it were..." applauding....applauding...👏👏👏👏👏.......applauding....🤟👏👏....who came up with that one? Was it Tony? Was it Stephen? Beautiful......beautiful...............

[@tarynelise225]

At least I’m the GOAT

[@josephhebert1785]

And Jesus said to the governing body: "I don't know you, give me back my purse!" 🤣 On a different note it never dawned on me these guys think that they are going to be royalty on the earth after a great catastrophe. Crying that something bad is coming is like saying it's going to be night at some point, or that it's going to rain eventually. Unless you're at the North Pole or in the middle of the Sahara chances are it's going to happen so saying it's going to happen long enough is crying the inevitable. Good luck with the whole royalty thing though. It's hard to be royalty when you're all dead. And death is coming for each and every one of us death is as natural a part of life as birth and required just as much.

[@terrimac3406]

So in a nutshell, as long as you DIE before Armageddon, you will survive, no matter what sort of a life you lived. You could be the biggest torturer and mass murderer ever, but as long as you pop your clogs before the big A hits, you will survive. If we consider two people, both non-JWs, so both deserving of destruction (according to JW teachings). Person A is pure evil and does the most evil things - the worst things any human can imagine. Person B is kind, generous, helps everyone, charitable - a real sweetheart. Person A dies 10 seconds before Armageddon strikes - so he survives. Person B is alive when Armageddon strikes, so he is detroyed forever. What absolute and utter garbage! Who on earth could swallow such tripe?

[@justinthyme5382]

Hi Terri ,Google " was the Yorkshire Ripper a Jehovah's witness "see what comes up on the screen, I've read about this evil monster who bludgeoned to death 13 women, and tried to kill another 7 ,when arrested he told authorities that God had spoken to him to kill all these innocent victims, that's food for thought. PS I was a jw for 46 years. Agape love from Australia.

[@bonniebrown5557]

If Hollywood came up with this story they would be laughed out of the casting room

[@gregfuller2387]

If the Almighty God expects us to recognize JWs as the one true religion based on the evidence. No thanks.

[@b.w.7588]

Greg Fuller , If the JWs were the "one and only true religion", I'd rather burn in Hell for all of eternity, or send a fireball my way on Armageddon Day that will result in my immediate death. Please and thank you, Jehovah. Living on an earthly paradise for all of eternity with people who act like Geoffrey Jackson would be a nightmare. That would be like a curse from Satan, if he existed that is, which I don't believe that he does.

[@gregfuller2387]

@@b.w.7588 No one's coming to save us...we have to do it ourselves.

[@b.w.7588]

@@gregfuller2387 , Well, I agree with you. I'm an atheist, so I don't believe in a demigod-like Savior or in a deity. We have to do what we can to make this world a better place for ourselves and for possible future generations. Even if there is a deity, what makes us think that that deity is going to everything for us anyway? To think that a deity should solve all your issues is just narcissistic and lazy thinking.

[@deejamerson7977]

I love how the GB, Jesus and the unrighteous all have beard.