Watchtower Investments: What Do We Know?

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Lloyd Evans

Lloyd Evans

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@markocipkar2999
@markocipkar2999 5 жыл бұрын
Watchtower should dissfellowship them selves
@agentsmith2399
@agentsmith2399 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@foxiedogitchypaws7141
@foxiedogitchypaws7141 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, 2 witness rule, still not enough
@markocipkar2999
@markocipkar2999 5 жыл бұрын
@@foxiedogitchypaws7141 there's millions now, but your right, coz none of them see
@tanyadepoalo9085
@tanyadepoalo9085 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!
@w.ellynkathryngaleckipolk2451
@w.ellynkathryngaleckipolk2451 5 жыл бұрын
*YES!!!*
@meatwadXL
@meatwadXL 4 жыл бұрын
Our congregation got remodeled and then only 1 year later we merged with another congregation and our Kingdom Hall was sold. IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW.
@americanidle1277
@americanidle1277 3 жыл бұрын
It's all part of the: "master plan"
@AlfroLyd
@AlfroLyd 7 ай бұрын
It's a real estate company I'm telling you. I'm so disappointed, if only you can see how poor we are here in Africa
@beckyholmes1911
@beckyholmes1911 5 жыл бұрын
I remember in my congregation, a group of us kids saved up our pocket money for months and our money from our little jobs, and donated it to the new Kingdom Hall fund. I feel so angry that we were, and kids now 30 years on are, being duped out of their pennies to be invested in Watchtower's property portfolio. Thanks Lloyd, for the perspective and the analysis!
@lizlm5793
@lizlm5793 5 жыл бұрын
And I still don't get how they ask and need money and at the same time they discourage higher education. No sense , so delusional
@barrygibbons2803
@barrygibbons2803 5 жыл бұрын
@@amandahuginkiss4098 Educated people with better incomes and life style are much less likely to believe mumbo jumbo from religious crack pots. Any university type course involves proper study and investigation of ideas. Students question what they are told and learn about bringing issues out into the open and discuss struggles in a counselling type think tank till the individual is happy with the result. No one who has experiences like these would blindly follow or believe any fact or information at face value. Unquestioning droids do not go to or emerge from higher education. WT hates any one who would question or challenge their ridiculous religion which is CONFUSION not fact or bible truth.
@mikemittens6492
@mikemittens6492 5 жыл бұрын
They will also use the donations of those they discourage from higher education to pay for the education of bethelite children.
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 5 жыл бұрын
Jon on his exJW analyzer channel, pointed out that the free labor source used to build and take care of ScotchTower's real estate portfolio, is much more valuable than donations. More cash return there than in a varying and unpredictable income stream of donations. Although they still get some donations as well as estate donations which they beg for anyway.
@roblloyd8453
@roblloyd8453 5 жыл бұрын
JONSON Eleazar Higher EDUCATION encourages CRITICAL THINKING. This is contrary to the WTS and especially the G.B. Once you become a critical thinker you start to use the 5 Ws and the 1h. Once you have mastered this you are then a danger to the G.B. of the WTS. According to some BRAIN (dead) WASHED ELDERS any one who had a degree was a threat to them in their position of oversight and thus as percieved by the ELDERS to the WTS and all in it. To be an ELDER it was best to be sparse LICKER and suck up to the one JEHOVAH appointed to select the ELDERS.
@roblloyd8453
@roblloyd8453 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Mittens Procedure called "BRAIN WASHING into subservience!"
@BLARG09
@BLARG09 5 жыл бұрын
Don't be part of the world, but invest people's money in the world.
@valerief911
@valerief911 4 жыл бұрын
Sara What a damn shame! More and more is being exposed, making me NOT want to return.
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb 3 жыл бұрын
What good is it that regular jw people and elders pool their money and resources only for the gb members to sweep it up under their feet if you rank and file members know this already then why build it and the first place how stupid can you be don't build shit for them and don't give them no donations either.
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinwarren1576 don't forget it's the gb donations money not jehovah money God doesn't material things it's his already in the system of things the won't gb members won't get to keep that money or any material positions they have now God will take it all away from them when that happens they'll be crying like babies they really don't care about you or God.
@vaughnmiller4371
@vaughnmiller4371 8 ай бұрын
You need money to make it in this world knucklehead. As if you didn't know that.
@thinkingman2020
@thinkingman2020 5 жыл бұрын
The various WT legal entities have offshore accounts. Those tax returns do not show transferred funds to offshore
@robdillinger3112
@robdillinger3112 5 жыл бұрын
If you can let us know where these offshore accounts are it could contribute greatly to this conversation
@purplefireweed
@purplefireweed 5 жыл бұрын
The Panama Papers might be a good place to begin looking...
@enjoythemoment8973
@enjoythemoment8973 5 жыл бұрын
Blown away by this presentation Loyd, well done & thank you!
@justinikenna1306
@justinikenna1306 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the efforts you invest into uncovering all these stuffs. Pls dont stop.
@ritam2025
@ritam2025 5 жыл бұрын
I just love the (obviously) well thought out way that you approach these topics. Thank you, thank you.
@mariemyriam1455
@mariemyriam1455 5 жыл бұрын
All this is very true! My family has worked almost every weekend to build Kingdom Halls! And we’ve been reproved for not going out in service enough ! That’s what made us cool down and start questioning “What the hell do they want?”
@roblloyd8453
@roblloyd8453 5 жыл бұрын
Marie Myriam What the HELL do they want?? TOTAL SUBSERVIENCE !! They, the masters of subterfuge are out to run your life while they rest on the "Sweat of your brow."
@sharnimaisey6890
@sharnimaisey6890 3 жыл бұрын
To keep you guilt ridden and subservient.
@nikkirobinson3561
@nikkirobinson3561 5 жыл бұрын
Tax efficiency through the use of ceasars tax system with worldly accountants.
@MichaelYoder1961
@MichaelYoder1961 5 жыл бұрын
They invested in a Life Insurance Company? Isn't that a little bit ironic given that they won't need it and everyone else is going to be obliterated at Armageddon?
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb 3 жыл бұрын
To me the gb members would like to use all of Satan's systems all they can before the end comes the gb members feel that their pretty smart on what they are doing they outsmarted God and christ and last but not least Satan himself such stupid reasoning i would say they are headed for the ax.
@MrBrianNZ
@MrBrianNZ 5 жыл бұрын
Up & waiting in New Zealand .. I know I will not be disappointed. Thanks Lloyd.
@sabrinabowden-hughes1730
@sabrinabowden-hughes1730 5 жыл бұрын
why aren't they giving all their money they're making towards the poor or even to their congregation members who are having problems this makes me sick God have mercy on all of them I hope they repent before they leave this earth
@tanyadepoalo9085
@tanyadepoalo9085 5 жыл бұрын
to the judgemental Uhhh...hello...Watchtower is making money off of other peoples hard earned labor. The secular jobs that the rank and file have to go to every day to make a living and then blindly under a False pretense give a portion of that hard earned money to a pay for a building that isn't even theirs. If it's going to be sold....the money should go back to The people who paid for and built the building. What part of that dont YOU understand?
@daisyjune5135
@daisyjune5135 5 жыл бұрын
to the judgemental There are churches who feed the poor, they may do it once a week but then you can go to different churches to get a meal. These churches have food backs too!! Where the poor come to pick up food stuff twice a week. It may maybe one bag full but it’s better than nothing. What does watchtower do for the poor and homeless? NOTHING! In fact they blame YOU for being homeless and/or poor!
@truthtriumphsevil7729
@truthtriumphsevil7729 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the exact same thing. I remember a family in my congregation growing up and they weren’t well off. It was left more on the brothers and sisters to visit and give food then the organization its self. Why isn’t there some fund set up for less fortunate to be able to access? And they look down on other organizations or religions who do drives during Xmas or whatever to help those in need. So many eye rolls 🙄
@firdoshvirjee3592
@firdoshvirjee3592 3 жыл бұрын
My dear they especially the elders don't care all they care is to be like the pharecies in the time of our Lord JESUS CHRIST
@dttocs4746
@dttocs4746 5 жыл бұрын
Stage 1 - Get witnesses to build halls all around the world with there money Stage 2 - Make them believe by signing there hall over to watchtower they will be better off and watchtower will look after them. Also drain congregation bank accounts Stage 3 - Start consolidating kingdom halls and selling off multiple kingdom halls. Stage 4 - Tell the sheep the end is at hand and make them start meeting in private homes Stage 6 - Sell all the kingdom halls and buildings Stage 7 - Split the money between the governing body
@__DMC__82
@__DMC__82 2 жыл бұрын
Stage 8 - buy expensive bottles of alcohol x12
@scottymeffz5025
@scottymeffz5025 2 жыл бұрын
@@__DMC__82 *their
@daniellee5694
@daniellee5694 5 жыл бұрын
Concise, objective, to the point... people need to be enlightened, especially the "sheep" within.
@teddyrattlesnake2991
@teddyrattlesnake2991 5 жыл бұрын
There's no way that the $1.8 billion is going to pay off lawsuits alone. These people are monsters.
@tamaraheseltine4455
@tamaraheseltine4455 5 жыл бұрын
Love it "when the light keeps getting brighter"
@vincentpicciotti4078
@vincentpicciotti4078 5 жыл бұрын
that will not be kind
@mariemyriam1455
@mariemyriam1455 5 жыл бұрын
So glad to be out! And thank you for bringing out all these scams to light, you are so clear in your vids, and your speech is so lucid!!! Can’t thank you enough!!!!
@Wildchildgirly
@Wildchildgirly 5 жыл бұрын
This was so well done. I hope this opens the door for us to get a clearer picture of fully extent of Watchtower’s financial corruption. I believe that will be another factor in members waking up and seeing the complete corruption in every aspect of that organization.
@molybdomancer195
@molybdomancer195 5 жыл бұрын
Ethical investment funds are available . Also you don't have to accept money if you don't like where it came from.
@magdielmedina5488
@magdielmedina5488 5 жыл бұрын
Agree, but they won't they love money ,but if members were to invest a small amount in those companies.. Do you know what happens? How they would be viewed... Lloyd knows... He just loves rattling exmembers... For video clicks...
@Neville60001
@Neville60001 5 жыл бұрын
He has a right to do this; this cult needs to be investigated, a lot.
@doylanecraig1787
@doylanecraig1787 5 жыл бұрын
Has anyone heard of the Watchtower having a bank? My father (up in age, has some dementia going on) swears that he has money in the JW bank. He doesn't want to stay in the his nursing home and has been trying to convince me to get his money so he can live on his own. I asked his overseer if he would look into it and 3 days later he said my dad did not have an account with the organization. Leading me to think that there may be a JW bank. Has anyone heard of one?
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 3 жыл бұрын
Very unlikely, but possible.
@delorestarpley7351
@delorestarpley7351 5 жыл бұрын
It would be like renting a house and the landlord says the renter must pay for the upkeep of the property. Oh yes and I might sell it and all the labor you put into it goes with the sale.
@tanyadepoalo9085
@tanyadepoalo9085 5 жыл бұрын
Delores Tarpley Well said!
@mariocontiu9692
@mariocontiu9692 5 жыл бұрын
It would be like building a house, maintaining it and then some dude comes and sells it.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 3 жыл бұрын
This is why tenancy contracts survive sales now.
@daisyjune5135
@daisyjune5135 5 жыл бұрын
Watchtower power lawyers know what they are doing. A lot of watchtower money is hidden.
@flossieduncan4344
@flossieduncan4344 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminfalzon4622 N
@jamesbush1157
@jamesbush1157 3 жыл бұрын
I think it all matters They should not be accepting money from this Donation by Henrietta because the money that is being donated has been made off of the blood of innocent people What's the difference if a priest accepts money from a drug dealer That money is dirty money That's the kind of money you cannot accept if you are a believer of Jesus
@gennaropannelli7138
@gennaropannelli7138 2 жыл бұрын
Si 40 milioni di dollari alle isole Cayman PARADISO FISCALE ECC E NEL FRATTEMPO chiedono CONTRIBUZIONI anche ai bambini .da L'ITALIA SALUTI.
@matthew.datcher
@matthew.datcher 5 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title of this video, I had an idea of which direction you would go, and you went exactly that direction. When the topic of investments blew up a few years ago, my thought always was "I'm sure the majority of the investments are people leaving their 401Ks to Watchtower in their wills." There definitely isn't as much to see here at people think there is. Thanks for the video.
@SlothyWoffy
@SlothyWoffy 5 жыл бұрын
That's probably true, but I'm 100% certain Watchtower knows that some of that money is coming from companies that conflict with their ideals. Seeing hypocrisy in your leaders was a big wake up call for MANY exJW's. There may be less money involved than with their property flipping, but can you show me any documented evidence that the money from their real estate reeling and dealing isn't being reinvested into their org? At least with the share dividends there are cold hard facts of where that dirty money came from!!
@Ed30675
@Ed30675 5 жыл бұрын
Superbly put together Loyd.... Very easy to follow and understand... Enlightening... Glad to see the Henrietta M Riley matter put in perspective. A very factual video... Many thanks...
@murphettex
@murphettex 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this one!
@DannyvdLans
@DannyvdLans 5 жыл бұрын
You are (all) great for opening eyes and be really looking for the truth! I was luckely 12 when I was quitting the so called truth. I keep watching them and you and everybody are a great help. Greatz from your "brothers" in the Netherlands.
@brucerobertson2466
@brucerobertson2466 5 жыл бұрын
They are conditioning the members to be construction oriented. They have these construction meetings in Kingdom Halls.
@reclaimedlife6870
@reclaimedlife6870 5 жыл бұрын
Very important subject. This deception part of my husband and i awakening. Puerto Rico information very good, hope it wakes others up too.👍
@deborahocampo852
@deborahocampo852 5 жыл бұрын
And they still ask kids to give there ice cream money up wow
@deborahocampo852
@deborahocampo852 5 жыл бұрын
When all this went on and continued they never realized we had mr evens
@cherylseebreth3926
@cherylseebreth3926 5 жыл бұрын
@@deborahocampo852 so correct. he certainly is the man.
@blackozzysabbath46
@blackozzysabbath46 5 жыл бұрын
I personally believe that the wt is not investing in any of these things... But you have to remember that wt is the same group that said that you can not work in agas station bc you would have to sell tobacco... With that being said WT could easily refuse any income coming from stocks... And walk away from it at any time... But they refuse to do that... so that makes them just as complicit as the people that they condemned for working at a place that sold tobacco
@magdielmedina5488
@magdielmedina5488 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, the members get scrutinized so it's only fitting that the exmembers bring this up.. Lloyd loves rattling cages inside the org and outside.. Hes freewill to do so... Something members inside lost together with their common sense..
@gamescore1654
@gamescore1654 5 жыл бұрын
@escaped to Vancouver where can I find his question for her
@nadinedavies698
@nadinedavies698 3 жыл бұрын
Such hypocrites!
@gennaropannelli7138
@gennaropannelli7138 2 жыл бұрын
Nel 2002 la Watchtower investi soldi in societa di cui la FILIP MORRIS ERA A CAPO, Quando la cosa divenne pubblica ,loro risposero semplicemente NOI NON LO SAPEVAMO .
@orpheusuk8762
@orpheusuk8762 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They make the money from the land. Once again, in the UK, i direct attention to the Kingdom Hall Trust. A Trust set up to acquire the freeholds of ALL UK Kingdom Halls.
@outandfullyawake4751
@outandfullyawake4751 5 жыл бұрын
2.4 billion divided by 8.5 million publishers equals $282 dollars or $70 dollars per week. Knowing the amount my mum was conned into donating per month - its reasonable to conclude this IS the average monthly donation
@marshajanulis6092
@marshajanulis6092 5 жыл бұрын
very true, my mom contributed $10 a week and that was in the 70's I think her generation was better off than the kids being raised without higher education
@user-sm3ql3qq2r
@user-sm3ql3qq2r 5 жыл бұрын
The less people cursed with this religion the better. It upsets me everyday, growing up always scared about armagheddon coming, often wondering when & would it happen before the weekend or after, believing i'd probably die because i felt so embarrased about door knocking & hated sitting at continious endless meetings. Then leaving home as soon as i could for freedom but making poor life decisions, unable to comprehend long term future. So many of us could have achieved so much more in life if we'd have believed in ourselves more & were encouraged to have normal hopes & dreams & to reach for the stars. Its taken a long time & a lot of research to get the demons out of my head & to start believing in myself. My parents did it all with the very best intentions, to save our lives & its so lucky we stayed close as a family unlike so many others. My advice to any jw parents would be to let the children talk & lead the way more & not be brainwashed by the latest tactics of those new videos masterminded by a time & money hungry empire that wants & keeps everyone on choker chains.
@ShoNuffSoulBro1
@ShoNuffSoulBro1 5 жыл бұрын
E: Very well stated ! 👏👏👏
@sparrowfield2020
@sparrowfield2020 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your hard work, as always.
@MonaLisa-yb9bq
@MonaLisa-yb9bq 5 жыл бұрын
The more I come to know the true Watchtower organization, the more I loathe it. I'm appalled at the governing body members over the years that know full well what they're doing. I can't believe that I was so ignorant of these facts. And to try and tell the rank and file members this information, well, I may as well just punch myself in the face before they believe it.
@FixingMyFaithExJWtv
@FixingMyFaithExJWtv Жыл бұрын
we're still learning Lloyd, thanks for your time.
@elizabethlevine4263
@elizabethlevine4263 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lloyd, for your honesty and well researched work.
@cindyarnold7322
@cindyarnold7322 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing up the confusion about their investments and exposing the more disturbing issue of selling KHs. I'm going to check out that movie you mentioned!
@marge7882
@marge7882 5 жыл бұрын
Real estate investments??? Sounds like WT is taking a page from Scientology's play book.
@thisisjeff9845
@thisisjeff9845 5 жыл бұрын
There's still 3 Kingdom Halls in my city. That's how many there were before I was DF'd. There were 2 congregations at one, 4 at the other, and 6 at the one I went to. The first one now has only 1, the second has 2, and the one I went to has 4. BUT, the neighbouring city sold at least two halls and put 2 congregations into the one that had 6 before. My old congregation doesn't exist anymore.
@BLARG09
@BLARG09 5 жыл бұрын
They have no problem accepting blood money. They are doing exactly what they tell others not to do. They just want the money.
@reluctantheist5224
@reluctantheist5224 3 жыл бұрын
'accepting' I think you mean, 'excepting' means the opposite to what it looks like you are saying.
@BLARG09
@BLARG09 3 жыл бұрын
@@reluctantheist5224 better?
@reluctantheist5224
@reluctantheist5224 3 жыл бұрын
@@BLARG09 haha , yup . Auto correct !
@BLARG09
@BLARG09 3 жыл бұрын
@@reluctantheist5224 Just the English language challenging me again.
@ShoNuffSoulBro1
@ShoNuffSoulBro1 5 жыл бұрын
It's apparent that things don’t add up. Since the “work is advancing so rapidly” how is it possible that there was a need for 1,300 new Kingdom Halls and then just a few years later NoT needing any but 200 new halls while consolidating and selling off many others ? ? If they feel that the work would continue INCREASING why wouldn¡t they hang onto the properties they already own in anticipation of eventually filling up those halls instead of consolidating and selling them off ? ?
@Scott_From_Maine
@Scott_From_Maine 5 жыл бұрын
Watchtower is sitting on a massive amount of cash and it would be interesting to see how all that is invested. I assume that info isn't disclosed anywhere. These returns seem to be mentioning some income along the fringes.
@mr.orange8205
@mr.orange8205 5 жыл бұрын
Wait. What about Monsanto? You would think Genetically modified anything would be a no-no.
@adrianneavenicci
@adrianneavenicci 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s hope 2020 brings a Watchtower leak similar to the one of the Mormon church hoarding $100 billion.
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 4 жыл бұрын
Back here researching some info. It's probably worth clarifying that when speaking of losses on stocks one has to remember that these stocks were received for free. So yes the stock lost value but Watchtower lost nothing because they got the stock for free and tax free from the outset.
@lumaimubanga9253
@lumaimubanga9253 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed tamara heseltine, the lights are really getting brighter for real.
@jenburlock377
@jenburlock377 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a legal mind would like to peruse through some of these files. Yet it doesn't take a genius that the org is doing something shady, at least to its members! I think you did a great job with this video.
@nenitaramones4353
@nenitaramones4353 5 жыл бұрын
A wizz or not,he surely has found documents to further pound n intimidate WT. BUT HE RELIES MUCH ON HIS OWN UNDERSTANDING, GUESSINGS N OTHER EXCUSES THAT TICKLES D EARS OF WT HATERS:-)THST'S UNFAIR IN SOME EXTENT COZ WT HAS NOT GIVEN ITS SIDE 2 EXPLAIN IN DEFENCE. THERE'S NO IF ANYONE IS NOT PARTY 2 D .......LEGSL AGENGY
@barbarahedges1791
@barbarahedges1791 5 жыл бұрын
rebuilding the KH's now they put in windows the old ones didn't have. Better for resale. LOL
@watchtowergoggles307
@watchtowergoggles307 5 жыл бұрын
I understand that the fund was left for them. But being the "FBO," (for benefit of watchtower) they can clearly request stocks not to be bought via war investments, adult stock (Cinemax).
@outandfullyawake4751
@outandfullyawake4751 5 жыл бұрын
Think they "invest" in property i.e KH's. Everything else will be hidden as proved by paradise papers
@georgejackson875
@georgejackson875 4 жыл бұрын
When is society going to start showing enough sense of compassion. Under standing and love .to rid our self's of these dispicabal cults ?
@brucerobertson2466
@brucerobertson2466 5 жыл бұрын
It will come a point where they will sell all available Halls and then what?
@christianmarx3249
@christianmarx3249 3 жыл бұрын
sell evry hall and just do everything on zoom
@forsminer
@forsminer 5 жыл бұрын
At #1, I agree. Comerica has an obligation toward the trust fund to make the most lucrative investments. But it would be interesting to know who at Comerica is handling the trust fund investments. Would be damning if it could be shown that a witness working for Comerica were the one doing this.
@MimiMimi-np3lq
@MimiMimi-np3lq 5 жыл бұрын
We turned down or quit lucrative jobs for this organization. We donated our time energy and funds to this organization and when you get too old or tired to contribute they dump you just like district overseers, special pioneers or old bethelites who are ill. It's truly sickening.
@peppaminttea
@peppaminttea 4 жыл бұрын
We're you one of the people that were sent home from bethel? I was so shocked that they didn't even give people stipends to help them get started with life.
@gennaropannelli7138
@gennaropannelli7138 2 жыл бұрын
O SENTITO DI UNA PERSONA DI 76 BETELITA CHE ANDAVA A MANGIARE ALLA CARITAS ,UN ENTE CARITATEVOLE CATTOLICO ,DOPO UNA VITA SPESA PER LA WATCHTOWER AMERICANA NEANCHE UN POSTO PER MORIRE ,IL SALMISTA DISSE CHE NON AVEVA MAI VISTO UN GIUSTO CHIEDERE IL PANE ,MA IO HO VISTO UN GIUSTO MANGIARE ALLA TAVOLA DEI SUOI NEMICI ,PERCHE NON AVEVA AMICI .DA L'ITALIA SALUTI.
@1chadmon
@1chadmon 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, these are some big numbers in donations. And yet they still get on JW broadcasts and have their hands out for more. For an organization that is “no part of the world”, they seem pretty financially savvy. And they most likely use the services of college educated financial advisors and accountants. Hopefully the sex abuse lawsuits will be able to reallocate some of those funds, to victims’ bank accounts.
@robert55726
@robert55726 5 жыл бұрын
John where does the profits go to. indivduals?
@adu5335
@adu5335 4 жыл бұрын
So who benefits from all the profits? The Walton family benefits from the Walmart empire. Google, Facebook, target, att and all the big companies are owned by and benefit specific people. They live well. They r rich. Who gets to live well on all the millions the watchtower corporation makes every year?
@anaschulz8084
@anaschulz8084 5 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Lloyd! Thank you so much for your videos! You have so helped me finally free myself of all the last vestiges of this cult. Many blessings to you and your lovely family!
@darrinhart8217
@darrinhart8217 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent work Lloyd. Just to confirm on this KH building scam they run: publishers need a KH; they donate large sums of personal money and/or sign on for a loan (sometimes from Watchtower at exorbitant interest rate) and build KH and make payment. Watchtower then decides to sell the KH and pockets all the money/profit, leaving publishers with lost $$ and having to drive to another KH? Correct?? Would love for someone to bullet point this process. I've been aware of it, but this information has to be exposed at a greater level.
@marluismoreno
@marluismoreno 6 ай бұрын
I have been a JW all of my life & it's weird but😢😢😢I feel like am finding out so many things😢😢it's like being betrayed & lied to 😢😢😢
@elisenieuwe4649
@elisenieuwe4649 5 жыл бұрын
2.4/ 1.2 billion in 2015, when the economic crisis was still hitting people :o Is almost certainly more now.
@mr.orange8205
@mr.orange8205 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were selling off shares.
@marcoonlinetv7769
@marcoonlinetv7769 5 жыл бұрын
Not it is not, because in 2020 is less people in western countries that are JW then in 2015 !
@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer
@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer 5 жыл бұрын
That's why it's easier for many heads of religious institutions to tell people about "getting through struggles" and whatnot. Because in reality, very few of them will every experience what their servant--I mean congregation go through.
@musicdude6939
@musicdude6939 4 жыл бұрын
No higher education = no enough money = no contributions. Sorry Watchtower
@sanfrois
@sanfrois 5 жыл бұрын
I think I know where Tony Morris invests his money...
@diannabell7817
@diannabell7817 5 жыл бұрын
I overheard a Witness on the phone ask another Witness if he went to the special publishers meeting that just happened. Speakerphone was on. First man said he went and said they're preparing everyone for what happens next. Sounded like he meant civil war and/or raida. Pay special attention to the Kushner deals.
@a.d.2206
@a.d.2206 5 жыл бұрын
What a waste leaving that trust to them. Could have helped so many people. I will never understand people leaving their money to religious "organizations"
@yasharahlakgmshumblework733
@yasharahlakgmshumblework733 5 жыл бұрын
I look at it this way No matter what religion organization out on the planet today. They're all going to come under judgement. Jacob rises.esua falls
@janiceloudon4140
@janiceloudon4140 5 жыл бұрын
So who would be benefiting at a personal level as far as the profits go. The governing body? Or the original investors who purchased shares in the corporation when they still sold shares? Who has a profit motive here if no one is paid by the corporation.
@delorestarpley7351
@delorestarpley7351 5 жыл бұрын
My question exactly
@milld9345
@milld9345 5 жыл бұрын
I think it might be just about growing bigger and obtaining more power. Money = Power. Plus the GB gets pretty good perks. I just think it's about obtaining wealth.
@maknavickas
@maknavickas 5 жыл бұрын
Is there no way to find out the total value of the investments, instead of the year-over-year increase/decrease? Because you could conceivable have a holding that is a 100x or more its yearly increase.
@barbarahedges1791
@barbarahedges1791 5 жыл бұрын
invest in cigarette companies. Investment their members can not work for. Those are companies you can make good money with out an education. They train you on the job. But their members are told wash windows etc.
@melodymakingmelodies4896
@melodymakingmelodies4896 5 жыл бұрын
What’s going to happen when they run out of sellable property. Lawsuits are going to eat up their profits.
@marshajanulis6092
@marshajanulis6092 5 жыл бұрын
it is all good information to know wish you could sway the pimo's and pimi's who are still making contributions to WT...thanks lloyd
@brucerobertson2466
@brucerobertson2466 5 жыл бұрын
Pimos are not donating anything
@marshajanulis6092
@marshajanulis6092 5 жыл бұрын
@@brucerobertson2466 you sure about that...i know I family where the wife is in and husband is out; part of that household income still goes to WT
@locohispalatin
@locohispalatin 2 жыл бұрын
Just check out . they are selling Bethel in. El Salvador for $12 million US dollars. I was amazed that during these hard times they did not help any of the brothers and sisters that could not work or lost their jobs and had no way to provide for their families.
@magdielmedina5488
@magdielmedina5488 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how much $$$ they have, its already to late.. Is in the billions and they have their new mansion by the lake. Were the chosen ones get to retire as it happened before . In the 1920s..
@jsokla7515
@jsokla7515 5 жыл бұрын
What do the personal homes of the Governing Body members look like? What is their annual salary?
@clivebanks6593
@clivebanks6593 5 жыл бұрын
Watchtower the dream business, second only to casinos.
@elisenieuwe4649
@elisenieuwe4649 5 жыл бұрын
Omg again the 1.200 kingdom halls they don't need. ExJWAnalyzer had a video including this and the closing of existing kingdom halls. (KH's) Their reasoning doesn't make sense xD Them: 'We wanted to build new ones. We are not going to build extra, but all of the sudden close down KH's instead. In the audio on the ExJWAnalyzer video the closing KH was only 10 years old! There is no reason to talk about not needing to build a new KH if the KH is only 10 years old. Buildings last 30+ years easily. It's just an excuse. Edit: I suggest watching that video. It's a very new one. Named: (on request) LEAKED: How it sounds to lose your Kingdom Hall (SECRET RECORDING from Jehovah's Witnesses)
@maryannlockwood7806
@maryannlockwood7806 5 жыл бұрын
Elise Nieuwe I saw that. Unbelievable! And it’s not just happening in the USA. JW suicides did a video not too Long ago about what’s going on with selling KHs in England.
@elisenieuwe4649
@elisenieuwe4649 5 жыл бұрын
@@maryannlockwood7806 I will look that one up. Thanks for the tip.
@barbiechyqa9192
@barbiechyqa9192 5 жыл бұрын
@@maryannlockwood7806 KHs are being sold everywhere. In Kenya many have been sold in all the best real estate areas like the suburbs, and convention lands in lucrative business areas. It has really got me questioning
@pauls185
@pauls185 4 жыл бұрын
how much money do members of the governing body get paid?
@roxiaitken6465
@roxiaitken6465 5 жыл бұрын
Snare & a Racket indeed!
@dantoinettetaylor1663
@dantoinettetaylor1663 5 жыл бұрын
John Cedars, you are a very fairminded critic and that's why I love your channel
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks wannabe - I aim to be as fair as possible in my criticism as I feel it's important to make the information credible. I appreciate your comment. :)
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
Schall - I'm kind of tired of your comments, which are becoming little more than passive aggressive trolling. I'm putting you on a time-out. If you're ever ready to start engaging respectfully and maturely, please let me know.
@RJPhotographics
@RJPhotographics 3 жыл бұрын
They actively, tactically drive families apart and concentrate efforts to manipulate their way into vulnerable member's will. Within my small friend circle, we know of several cases where this has happened.
@d_e_a_n
@d_e_a_n 5 жыл бұрын
What was the deal where they kept promoting Apple products. iPads. In the drama from 5 years ago or so only iPads could be used. Not other tablets. I should find my notes on that.
@rOb1842
@rOb1842 5 жыл бұрын
Lloyd, why would you have a framed picture of Lett on your desk, I couldn’t stand to see that freak? Wouldn’t it better be used as toilet 🚽 paper?
@AsherPiesman
@AsherPiesman 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's meant to be ironic
@hectorconde5452
@hectorconde5452 5 жыл бұрын
because he looks like elmer fud on crack hahahha he looks crazy
@misskitty976
@misskitty976 5 жыл бұрын
inspiration to stay in the fight.
@lukesmith4440
@lukesmith4440 5 жыл бұрын
I am a bit confused. Usually it would be a good idea for the CFO to give an informative presentation. Unfortunately, the GB's CFO Bernie Madoff was too busy making license plates.
@mrsmartmouth8393
@mrsmartmouth8393 5 жыл бұрын
Only a villain would come up with a master plan.
@w.ellynkathryngaleckipolk2451
@w.ellynkathryngaleckipolk2451 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be far more concerned with the pharmaceutical companies. These are the companies pricing medications so high here in the U.S. that people cannit afford medications.
@uakrongrad
@uakrongrad 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video, interesting perspective. Thank you for all the time and effort put into making it. Lots of great points. Great job. It looks to me like the org. is directly investing in military defense among other things. If the companies names and investment information was not directly stated, I can see an argument for an indirect relationship. Also the fund is named "Watch tower", my perspective is, it belongs to the org. not Comerica. But hey, Im not an expert either ;) ****Regardless they can refuse to accept the money***** I think the reason this subject is important to some (including myself) is this may hit a nerve of those who remember specific examples where brothers changed jobs based on moral dilemma caused by their employer fulfilling military contracts. Leaving a job/career is always a difficult task. Possibly this could be the straw that wakes someone up, especially if they themselves made the change. This is analogous to being a member of United Nations NGO, while at the same time calling the UN the whore of Babylon. i.e. Do as I say, not as I do.
@friendywendy3474
@friendywendy3474 5 жыл бұрын
A research has to be done on how the gb and their wives are living and if they get financial support...just wonder if they live a low lifestyle
@nadinedavies698
@nadinedavies698 3 жыл бұрын
Well we know that they spend a lot of money on whiskey!
@jeffreycarroll5920
@jeffreycarroll5920 5 жыл бұрын
Well hell, I’m sitting here waitin clear over here in Florida USA😎😎
@asielmilian38
@asielmilian38 5 жыл бұрын
It's always sunny.
@asielmilian38
@asielmilian38 5 жыл бұрын
@@justajavajunky you should visit Florida.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 3 жыл бұрын
Heh, 'clear.' Clearwater?
@raventreefrog2305
@raventreefrog2305 4 жыл бұрын
Question. Anyway to find out with accuracy what WT is spending this KHT process on? If it’s in a negative light than it should be easy to find. If it’s for the new planned media centre in NY USA and the like I guess their doing it to promote the faith. Thank you for the info. Has me thinking. Being PIMS it is clear to me WT is not being transparent. (Principally In Mentally Suffering) :(
@darkgenix
@darkgenix 5 жыл бұрын
as a stock trader..this list is pretty solid. lol.
@AnayhiasMimi4619
@AnayhiasMimi4619 11 ай бұрын
Im just wondering if there are any updated finance reports on them or no
@mamabear8555
@mamabear8555 5 жыл бұрын
IMO Watchtower does whatever it wants as long as they are getting away with it. Like a criminal or an abusive spouse. They know that according to what they expect out of the members they are in the wrong for investing in such things. And I will NEVER give them the benefit of the doubt. Not after the ARC. Not after watching Geoffrey Jackson admit to what he had no choice in admitting to and him lying or getting around the truth. Not after my experience of going to the elders for HELP as a mother of a toddler and 7 mo pregnant and getting disfelliwshipped for knowing too much of my husbands and his fathers dealings that his father went to PRISON for but did NOT get disfelliwshipped! There are all kinds of things that Watchtower is involved in and trying to hide. So I do NOT ever give them the benefit of the doubt.
@beautyRest1
@beautyRest1 5 жыл бұрын
...foxes have dens...and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay his head...Math. 8:20 Watchtower sure knows where to lay it’s head!
@SunFlower-xb3gf
@SunFlower-xb3gf 5 жыл бұрын
Question: Are Watchtower financials transparent, accountable and easily obtainable? If not, how can they be unearthed?
@londomollari4871
@londomollari4871 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen several reports where JWs save up for an assembly hall (or a Kingdom Hall). Sometimes the Watchtower directive in an area is to contribute toward it. Then Watchtower takes the money donated and cancels the project. The local JWs don’t get the building promised. I’m not sure how this can be legal. Someone whose’s expertise is financial/legal needs to look into this.
@londomollari4871
@londomollari4871 5 жыл бұрын
Here is a reddit post about a situation like this: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/e5xpz0/the_scam_that_was_the_ky_assembly_hall_tri_state/
@peppaminttea
@peppaminttea 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. That happened to a kingdom that was supposed to be built in my area. Then it was cancelled.
@katiedotson704
@katiedotson704 5 жыл бұрын
Phil Ferguson (The Phil Ferguson Show) could probably explain a great deal that we, the financially unenlightened ones, can't see. Lloyd, if you get in touch with Mr. Ferguson, he may well be willing to come on and help decipher some of the mysteries here.
@lukesmith4440
@lukesmith4440 5 жыл бұрын
I can't verify the accuracy of this information. But I heard that they are investing heavily in yoga pants....Tony you dog!!!😋😺
@Chris-zz8jx
@Chris-zz8jx 5 жыл бұрын
haha :D
@zoe0187
@zoe0187 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@loriswitala942
@loriswitala942 5 жыл бұрын
He’s dreaming of tight pants!
@thefigleaf6206
@thefigleaf6206 5 жыл бұрын
Fair and balanced. Unfortunately WT are not themselves fair and balanced and it's that double standard which provokes such ire among exjws. If we must go high where they go low it is still important to acknowledge that this is what is being done. Thank you for the hard work you and others put into pulling these videos together.
@gregdiamond5355
@gregdiamond5355 5 жыл бұрын
There’s one JW convention clip you showed in one of your rebuttal videos to illustrate the selling off of Kingdom Halls. The one where the girls were talking after an elder announced KH merger. It to split up one of their families. There was an old sister they asked whose family was also being split up and the girls asked her which congregation she was to...you know the clip. If you want to really get into watchtower’s dealings you need a forensic accountant to go over everything with a fine tooth comb.
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