The World's Laziest Thieves?

Zach Nelson from JerryRigEverything and Dbrand are suing Castify for copyright infringement after finding extreme similarities between their “InsideOut” skin designs and Dbrand’s Tear Down cases.
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[@emulationemperor8924]

I did not know dbrand was founded on the day skyrim released

[@Revid222]

They are dragon born

[@mowtow90]

BMW already tried that vs a Chinese car maker that copied several models. The Chinese court stated "what are you talking about , they look notting alike". You just cant win vs a country that has based its economy on ripping and copying foreign stuff.

[@thejosh0100]

​@@mowtow90just because their based in hong Kong doesn't mean their business arms in other jurisdictions wouldn't be on the hook for lawsuit damages

[@NoNameAtAll2]

...which skyrim release are we talking about?

[@emulationemperor8924]

@@NoNameAtAll2 haha. THE skyrim release. The first one. I remember it very well, because it's 11.11.11. And for the Europeans ot was 11.11.11

[@animefanrk2k]

I remember looking for a case for my new iPad two months ago, and was disgusted at the prices of Castify versus their quality. This is just sad icing on top of the being dumb cake.

[@user-iy5qy4gg7f]

I checked their website too and the prices are insane... Bye no

[@pandabugdiaries2384]

lol i was deciding on a new phone case a few months ago and was considering going to casetify, but opted for a dbrand grip case instead 100% don't regret my decision in hindsight, also side note I am now a fan of the grip case, when I eventually upgrade my phone I might try the ghost case next

[@Nick-jf1il]

So, while it might be all memes and added easter eggs, this is MORE like what Map makers used to do. they didn't want their maps copied, so they made up towns, that didn't exist, and if they found them on a competitors maps, they knew they had been copied, and would get money and damages. The "easter eggs and memes" are basically watermarks for EXACTLY this kind of thing.

[@scottalexgray]

Paper towns

[@NavyDood21]

Yup, and funnily enough dictionary writers still do essentially the same thing as well. They will put in fake words or format things in a way so they can tell if another company just scrapes their database and uses it to try to print out or publish online dictionaries. Though I don't know how prevalent that still is.

[@wiirlak8681]

@@NavyDood21 I heard about a lawsuit in France that failed for plagiarism on a dictionary. Using the fake words as proof. The judge recognize that fake words were copied but since those are fakes, it doesn't grant them anything. As for the right words ? Well, you can't prove they copied them too, plus descriptions are "truth", which can't be copyrighted; so they win the case, but gained nothing. Now, they still use the techniques, to check who copy whom, but that's all.

[@the_undead]

Knowing dbrand, it is equally likely that this was and was not intentional. And frankly, with how much artistic license they take with the tear down skins, it would be pretty obvious that these are copied regardless. Because you could easily do a different shade of copper, you could change the color of some of the components a little and so many other things and have it be as faithful as the dbrand tear down is

[@vladoportos]

Their defence will be “it was created by external freelancers” and they sacrifice some random company that no longer exists…

[@CentreMetre]

I was thinking intern or new guy

[@LorandHungary]

@@CentreMetreBig no no, they would be held accountable for that.

[@Amphibax]

@@CentreMetre Still would be the same company

[@NinjAsylum]

11:35 The fact that they didnt EVER actually open or look at a single real phone and instead opted to simply scan PICTURES of the already existing skins, tells me with absolutely zero doubt whatsoever, that casetify had no idea those were easteregg/watermarks. They 100% assumed that was what was on the actual phone.

[@AngryApple]

probably didnt even do that, just right clicked and saved the image from the preview

[@steffahn]

They did not even scan pictures of existing skins. They downloaded preview images of existing skins from dbrand’s website. This is evidenced by some parts of an depiction of the phone’s camera that made it partially onto one of their poorly cropped skins matching dbrand’s website’s imagery. The phone’s camera is not part of dbrand’s skin, so you wouldn’t get that from a scan, and even if scanned with a phone inside, it would look different.

[@hhhfghhh]

I'm convinced they ran the pictures through an AI upscaler/filter because of how weird the illuminati artifacts was and how the text is fuzzy

[@The_Potato_Boi]

“Those dammed fools”- casetify ceo

[@trickvro]

Generally speaking, as a matter of copyright law, even a photograph that is an unimaginative, unembellished, straightforward snapshot of something that anyone could easily take a picture of themselves, is protected. That doesn't prevent you from creating your own version of that snapshot yourself (unless the underlying idea is trademarked, or there's some other law preventing it, or whatever technicality), but it does mean you're committing copyright infringement if you steal someone else's snapshot instead of making your own.

[@vincentschumann937]

Even X-Rays taken within seconds from each other with the same settings look different if you look for more than one second

[@sagenhaftkriegshetzer4961]

how's that?

[@vincentschumann937]

xrays work by shooting the rays through meterial and sensing the amount that comes through on the other side, but that absorbtion is "random" for each particle so there will be some noise in the image that will differ slightly.

[@sagenhaftkriegshetzer4961]

@@vincentschumann937 that's cool to know, thank you for the info!

[@dylandreisbach1986]

This would be crazy but imagine if dbrand offers a free X-ray phone case to anyone who trades in their castify stolen image cases.

[@brianm.595]

Nah, they are just going to sue. No point in doing a giveaway. Hell If castify didn't pull them down, I'd probably let them keep selling them. The end of the lawsuit is going to be all the proceeds taken away and either licensing agreement or destruction of all remaining units.

[@moneybilla]

​@@brianm.595 yea but good luck laying a lawsuit to a over seas company 😂😂😂

[@oliverpuffer6333]

That would just incentivize purchasing the knockoffs. The exact opposite of what they want.

[@Policepigeon]

well... It would, IF the casetify cases were cheaper than dbrand's. They are not.@@oliverpuffer6333

[@Nova2127U]

@@moneybilla Will just mean they won't be able to sell in Canada or the U.S. (assuming Zack/DBrand is also filing a lawsuit in the United States as well) It will hurt more if they are punished in the U.S. since that's a big country to lose money on.

[@Democrab]

i love hearing Linus channel his inner Jeremy Clarkson

[@VivekYadav-ds8oz]

I love these little business wisdom tidbits that Linus keeps dropping. Wish he made a lot more of that kind of content. Reminds me of that video on how their screwdriver is manufactured, absolutely loved it. His audience has grown up too, would definitely follow along.

[@abrahamlincoln3181]

Linus is going to break the sarcasm meter. 😂

[@-TheFacelessGamer-]

I love the relationship DBrand has with Linus. They roast each other and it's great. They also roast their fans on their website which I laugh at too. Lol.

[@serae6184]

Can't wait to see how this turns out considering it has to be settled overseas.

[@sadmanh0]

they'll have a hard time selling in US-Canada, stores like bestbuy are already taking down their products based on cease and desist.

[@simple3316]

I thought it was gonna be settled in canada. I could be wrong.

[@oyvindrepvik]

All Disney-related icons on Casetify has disappeared now.

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

Uh oh the mouse went hunting 😂

[@OneBiOzZ]

This mostly just goes to show how reasonably priced d-brand skins and cases are a company directly ripping them off without any of the upfront cost was still unable to hit the same price point

[@lancelindlelee7256]

I won't say it's a rip off but it's still incredibly expensive. Steam Deck skin is $40. I got a hard shell case + carrying case for $20. No actual design but it works.

[@TheTyisawesome]

Everytime I buy a new TV I say "This is too good for me. I don't deserve it..." And immediately turn the sharpness all the way down.

[@BoBandits]

Sharpness is artificial sharpening. It should be down by default.

[@Operational117]

8:43 Dude, you can clearly see that Casetify's version has clearly visible printer ink dotting. Case closed.

[@TheYoutubeUser69]

I like that they're cleaning up the bot spam

[@funtechu]

Linus is so angry, he got stuck in sarcasm mode 😂

[@Elvin.M.]

The sarcasm killed me 😂

[@BlackScream77]

Casetify just downloaded 720p res images from dbrand.. I'm sorry but that's not print quality not even close, they edited out SOME easter eggs but not all which is how they got caught. I don't see how there's any merit to being on casetifies side here..

[@tswan137]

I wish Linus watched the full video. They didn’t even talk about how Dbrand’s LOGO IS HIDDEN IN THE DESIGN. Casetify didn’t catch it. Not just an easter egg. Their LITERAL LOGO is clearly visible in horrible quality. It’s amazing.

[@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388]

In Iran's case, to my knowledge, since due to sanctions most companies don't market their stuff here, they obviously haven't bothered to protect their IP. So piracy is very mainstream. Funnily enough, here I can legally pirate any non domestic movie I want. But I can't use the subtitles of that movie without the author's permission.

[@g_lise7103]

I've received a photo of a computer screen (from an angle), screenshot of that in the gallery, sent via Messenger. And it wasn't a joke.

[@Talimancer]

The Easter egg trick is an old technique. Way back in the ordinance survey days in the UK(perhaps worldwide) they would include deliberate mistakes or phantom streets to catch the copycats

[@benjaminmiddaugh2729]

This is still done by map companies, up to and including Google and Apple with their map software.

[@renchesandsords]

the quiet guy in the back just stood up...

[@Skywalker_FPV]

Dude the sarcasm in this video is laid on sssoooo thick! Lol they just kept it running!🤣

[@Alice_Fumo]

casuals don't even know about jpeg artifact generators. SMH

[@cody_raves]

The beginning of the clip you can hear Linus twice, this means that the noise gate on the microphones isn’t aggressive enough

[@Locutus]

I think this will be a huge win for Dbrand. People had no idea that Dbrand did these kind of cases, and the quality.

[@coleeto2]

Best But has pulled these Casetify cases from shelves, so that’s already a small W

[@mrpants8976]

Oh snap, if they did not get permission from Disney they will be in a whole new world of hurt

[@seeinred]

Reminds me of that time some guy got a prototype piece of hardware for showcase, shat on it, and then straight-up sold it out, despite it being only for showcase.

[@pignebula123]

Castify should have to pay 2x whatever revenue they made from the sale of those cases to dbrand and jerryrigeverything

[@Amphibax]

Kinda liked to see the sponsorship with the Taican

[@amostake]

"it's like free anti aliasing." XD

[@Efreeti]

Woah holy shits the very obvious bot comments so far, not even vaguely related to the topic.

[@thedykewholovesswords9316]

Nice flag

[@supermat1937]

I didn’t know dbrand was a Canadian company 🇨🇦 🍁 very cool!

[@alexnobles3429]

kinda waiting for their take missed the podcast

[@lolita_88]

Bruh that title is the biggest bait about that certain auction that I have ever seen LMAO

[@user-pn6qq1zr3x]

in case of mahoot, iran’s market is almost completely isolated from the global market and dbrand like almost all western brands are not present there and also mahoot is not present outside of iran. There are ways to order products like dbrand’s from inside of iran but it will cost like 500 USD for a case in a country that average monthly income has plummeted to around 200-300 in the past decade. I’m not defending their action in stealing someone else’s work, I’m just saying that there’s just no real overlap for their markets and with or without mahoot and alike brands, nothing will go to dbrand and other western companies from inside of iran, except for the giant ones like apple or laptop manufacturers etc.

[@jpierce1987]

Get it wrapped with a poor quality Castify wrap of the insides of a Geo Metro 🤣

[@Guyver02USA]

- This is savage . 🤣

[@Simiocrates]

Interesting timing, about the xrays being the exact same. I was just at the doctor's office today because my mom broke her foot and the doctor showed us that even using the same machine the her xray from last week and today looked different. In today's the bones looked much whiter and more dense.

[@NellerProductions]

Disney has huge copyright heritage. Copyright is very close to their heart, so i think they'll definitely be pulling ties

[@robinbegley1077]

They are the only company to get copyright law rewritten, TWICE! There is a reason everyone says don't mess with the mouse.

[@nixplayer_05]

5:57 i actually turned the video down to 144p just for the meme

[@NeverlandSystemZor]

I ALMOST had Casetify make a print for my otterbox case I wanted for my iPhone... Glad I didn't. This is blatant theft. Should be an open & shut case.

[@i8dragons]

If his name isn't Jerry then wtf has this all been for

[@Respectable_Username]

Big L for Casetify, big W for dbrand! Glad I procrastinated on buying the Casetify case I was planning to get until after this all came out 😅 I just wish dbrand did more cases rather than just skins. I would _love_ their Damascus skins on a case, but my phone hits the ground too often to go caseless (the back glass has _already_ smashed within a month of owning it)

[@PKMNTrainerEevee]

Dont their cases have the skin either to be applied by the customer or applied already? At least that was my assumption

[@thefabulouskitten7204]

Yeah their cases are super good. You can just rotate the stickers on the back of the phone

[@Respectable_Username]

@@thefabulouskitten7204 Can't have the _shiny_ stickers on the back though 😭 But saying that, their support rep was so super helpful! I actually asked them if the skin I was looking at would work under their clear case, and they came back and basically said "no" and showed what it would look like. 10/10 for the honesty of their rep, making sure potential customers have a good experience over securing a sale that would leave them unhappy ❤️

[@russelrust2753]

The worlds laziest thieves would be a multi millions dollar company taking in a product from a smaller company and selling it at auction without consent.

[@unrealed]

Dbrand was created on 2x3 Prong Day???!!!! You say they're not evil, but they clearly work for the Batterwitch!!!

[@Gaskinmoo79]

what is it with red arrows in video thumb nails. Every video in my feed seems to have them.

[@105dx]

Anyone else's has this? LTT logo on a Google add?

[@Kratos1902]

Business it’s more than just money, but don’t deny it, money it’s high up there in the first spot.

[@Dadbod2019]

Just makes you question with casedefy what products are their own

[@Maadhawk]

Best DBrand and JerryRig might be able to get out of this is for Castify to be added to the list of embargoed companies.

[@TheUnknownCatWarrior]

Whatever Castify does to make their phone cases, their quality is so bad they're essential a waste factory. Imagining paying more for PS1 graphics on a phone case.

[@1draigon]

The print quality is just SO weird Like why is it so blurry? Who would buy that?

[@christopherthao9151]

i with everything that has come out. i seriously doubt the actually collab with any of those ip and not just right click and save image and put on the back of a phone

[@teamboubouy]

although i'm pretty sure they would be okay in sponsoring a video of you wrapping the taycan in a blurry skin of the inside of the wrong car

[@evdomos]

It's like free anti-aliasing!

[@silvialuzmia]

broo what if someone notify those brand that castify stole assets, i wonder if they would react or not

[@mike4402]

chinese companies dont care, they are partially owned by the CCP and as such are immune from repercussions.

[@darkflux]

now if they would just remove the infinite duplicates on Amazon...

[@TheFrantic5]

I'll be honest, I thought his name was Jerry.

[@TheMrSnarf]

I personally don’t know anything about Zach from Jerry rigged everything. However, I did used to watch him back in the day and haven’t for years, but regardless, if he was stolen from which the evidence is damming, there needs to be some form of recourse.

[@raisofahri5797]

Wait his name isnt jerry

[@christoph1995]

Casetify not Castify

[@santiagocastro6701]

dislike bc spoiled the fact he is not Jerry

[@JasonB808]

Lesson here. Always put Easter eggs on your creations that are so obscure that only die hard fans know what it means. This way if some ass hole company tries to literally copy it. They can’t, the Easter eggs would be a dead giveaway. Laws for products sold in US and Canada should have anti copy protection, which violation of that law equals a very big pay day to the original creator that was ripped off without the need for trials or money sucking lawyers. All the original creator has to do is prove their creation was ripped off.

[@svpracer98]

Well, if you buy a Sony Xperia, you get basically one option for a case, and it's probably going to be black.

[@ThaWiz11]

Someone really tweeted "love the cheap merch"..... either all these tweets are bots or Andrew b has never bought merch or looked at the prices because that's 100% false

[@YouTrolol]

i think because it's not a 100% ripoff, small things were changed, their argument could be that it's a derivative work.

[@TylerFurrison]

The thing is, the logo is still baked into the design. That's trademark infringement

[@sagecolvard9644]

I don't know if this has been the case for a while or if I only just now noticed, but Linus's mic has a larger pop filter than Luke. Is there normally a large enough difference in how they pronounce the letter P that they require different audio equipment?.

[@DerKruemel]

its the same size you just dont see it and no the diameter doesnt change it .

[@txm2124]

I think the filters are same, its just different perspective. The filter and mic aren't centered so change in angle and orientation is making you think its different size but its not. If you watch some other clips where Luke's mic is placed differently, they look the same size.

[@Levios-xg5co]

i find react content in itself not the biggest problem but the new thing i have seen is some react youtubers locking certain videos of them behind join channel payment which is utterly disgusting in my opinion

[@brianm.595]

I dont think I have a problem with this if its fair use. Things locked behind channel membership are infinitely less accessible than a public video.

[@sunbleachedangel]

China? How unexpected

[@amd950ex]

These guys are not officially Hong Kong but just created a shell company here. They are actually from ahem you know it, China. The founder couldn't speak perfect Cantonese.

[@Jev55]

So not to be "that guy" but rtings mostly calibrates TV's with the sharpness all the way down lol. TV's push sharpness to unrealistic levels and it degrades image quality.

[@TalesGrimm]

After "Truly Humble Under God," I am convinced Linus could be Casetify's lawyer

[@skekch]

Imitation is the biggest form of flattery....

[@TylerOfTrade]

Oh it's amazing that dbrand doesn't even look like they intended too. But looks like casetify fell for paper towns essentially.

[@QuinnBarnett]

Hay you have an xray Machine now, how about some xray phone cases now

[@PajaKulebrc]

2:58 Complaining that a company the size of Casetify doesnt want to spend few hundred bucks is pretty ironic.

[@ermtheworm]

How so

[@bradleymarks]

Ok so I don't speak out much... but Zack is an artist.. and every artist uniquely signs their work...the easter eggs are a signature.. this is why AI blurring signatures pissed artists off... this is art theft..

[@dirtydan6098]

Anyone’s mom want to talk to me ?

[@acetorres8787]

This is a money grab

[@lup4118]

free antialiasing

[@PexiTheBuilder]

This is pure hypocrisy! Someone who was too cheap to test properly new product, because that crush it, then steal and sold it.. Then blaming others from stealing.. Shame on you! How can you sleep at night? Probably no problem, because why would narsistics care about others?

[@MrArcanjoGabriel]

Chinise company copying other companies... No, that's impossible.

[@piratetv1]

Should sue him for not being named Jerry. Lol

[@the_undead]

Why are we suing on Jerry rig everything? He has done nothing to justify legal action

[@psgamer-il2pt]

​@@the_undeadyour joking right? Did you read the comment? Are you a bot? Have you never seen sarcasm?

[@hoverbike]

It’s hard not to think about what Linus said about 500$ of his company time screwing over that gpu cooler developer, when he talks about casetify not bothering to buy a few hundred dollars worth of tools 😂

[@bingusbongus9807]

TRUE!!! thats not a parallel i had thought of!

[@Collin_J]

This reminds me of Colbert Report. Nothing is genuine and I enjoy the characters

[@snailairy]

Bro they stole from basically 3 people ☠️

[@ronsijm]

"$99! That seems like an unreasonable expense!" 😂😂 - Is he memeing on himself? Because that was the exact phrasing of the "Guys, can we really justify $99 of time to error-correct our videos? That's just an unreasonable expense!" meme

[@domanics4314]

I have a sneaking suspicion that you missed the obvious sarcasm.

[@ronsijm]

@@domanics4314 wait what, he said it sarcastically, really?! OMG! What kind of maniac would be sarcastic on the internet? Saying it sarcastic is definitively relevant to whether it was a reference to that other thing

[@domanics4314]

​@@ronsijm I just find it odd that you are taking the joke and trying to bash them with an off topic comment. I can understand not liking someone, but why make such an effort to try and twist it into a half-hearted gotcha.

[@Highlander77]

​@@domanics4314sounded to me like he was just asking whether Linus was intentionally poking fun at himself or not (which is how I took it as well). Don't see anyone "bashing" anyone here.

[@ronsijm]

@@domanics4314 Ok, I find it odd that first your assume I missed the obvious sarcasm, and now you're assuming that I don't like them and assume I am making any effort to "twist it into a half-hearted gotcha"... If you wanna argue with a straw man, go find yourself a scarecrow

[@cifers8928]

Man, the only way Castify could top this type of scumbag behaviour is if they put up some indie startup's only prototype up for auction

[@the_undead]

Seeing as that problem was resolved and both parties are mostly happy with the resolution I would say this is many thousands of times worse than that. Stop being salty for people who are not salty, Go back to watching the selfish baby that you clearly enjoy for some stupid reason

[@cifers8928]

​@@the_undead None of this makes Linus not a scumbag. He went on the podcast to whine about someone else giving his prototype bags away while he misrepresented a product from an upcoming company, and didn't even bother to apologize before being called out

[@kuro_emiya]

doesn't need to apologize when that clown gamer nexus lied about billet lab lending it to linus. when they originally said he could have it and that they didn't want it back. and then billet labs decided that they wanted it back long after LTT released the video.

[@the_undead]

@@cifers8928 a couple of things, billet labs first said that line is could keep it. They only changed their mind long after, second of all, that product is only going to be purchased by people who want a solid copper water block regardless of how good or bad it is, that's not the kind of thing that anyone who's reasonable about even water cooling is not going to be purchasing because you can get an entire water cooling solution for cheaper than that water block. So if billet labs fails, it would not be because of that video. In fact Even if that video was a glowing five-star review of the product, it would have changed the fate of the company at all.

[@cifers8928]

@@kuro_emiya At what point does "you can keep it" mean "Yeah you can auction off to potential competitors"?

[@shanewazsultan9305]

does anyone know ,"what happened to anthony?"

[@saibgassanov3378]

Linus making fun of a company maybe not spending 100 bucks is ironic

[@bobbytables4305]

Linus inadvertently hit the nail on the head. It's going to be hard for debrand to win this case because they have to prove damages. And if case, if I was selling it for more with an inferior product then there really isn't damages unless they can show that by doing so it diluted dbrands product. There really isn't a real case here.

[@lilkittygirl]

Damages are sales lost. So every single time the stolen IP was stolen, that's damage that can be easily proven.

[@juances]

I don't think they are going to win a million dollars or anything but it's probably enough to at the very least get a montion for Casetify to stop selling the bootleg. But as Linus also said, this isn't just about money, this is a PR win for dbrand, they'll come out on top either way.

[@ARitzCracker]

castify got the bestbuy deal, dbrand didn't. Boom. Damages.

[@EraYaN]

It’s just straight copyright infringement, there is absolutely a case here (hint you don’t just get to use shit you didn’t make, this is not fair use). Photographers for example do this all the time with images, so much so you often don’t even have to sue companies cause they know, and settle.

[@brandobond]

Had only heard good things about JerryRigEverything (including from Linus). The first video I got recommended from that channel was a sponsored video for a $2000 watercooled mattress that requires a monthly subscription to use! The "review" was largely positive and failed to even mention the required subscription! That was all I needed to know about how much trust I should put into the channel.

[@HorsesArePeople2]

Not sure who the dumber thief is, Linus when he stole that startup company's prototype or casedefy. Funny how Linus rips on them for not wanting to spend extra money to get something right, when he chose to lie to his audience to save $500

[@sephondranzer]

First! Don’t spend engagement ring money on an RTX 4090!

[@sephondranzer]

Awe damn it second 😫

[@Henrex2000]

Don’t spend RTX 4090 money on an engagement ring

[@the_undead]

I have no idea what this has to do with this video, but okay

[@psgamer-il2pt]

Why spend money on a worthless ring when you could get a rtx 4090

[@scotthuang3022]

Gamers nexus will probably clip these for the next drama they create to promote their lab

[@rorysteffan]

I couldn't imagine liking my own comment

[@qunas101]

Absolute smooth brain comment

[@ehqwk]

@@rorysteffanIf you don't even like your own comment then why are you commenting?

[@TheSteveMeister]

The World's Laziest Thieves huh... reminds me when linus stole and tried to sell the water cooling prototype from BilletLabs without their consent.... and got caught. lol linus is scummy af

[@VitalVampyr]

Imagine thinking you could do whatever you want with something that was given to you unless otherwise specified.

[@the_undead]

​@@VitalVampyras far as I can tell, the communication from billet Labs was not super clear on that prototype not helped by human error at LMG. The fact that anybody thinks that this is comparable is disgusting to me, That was a product that was never going to hit mass production and was only ever going to be sold to people who build computers because they have thousands of dollars to spend on nothing because they're rich, billet Labs was compensated for LMG's error and as far as I can tell, both parties are mostly happy with the resolution. They would have preferred if it didn't happen at all but neither of them are complaining. This is actual legitimate theft committed by a company that thinks they can get away with whatever they want because they are Chinese.