Through a ton of research I've pinpointed when Shock died: 1923. Back then Halloween costumes could pretty much be regular clothes with masks. I assumed she, Lock, and Barrel died in the same year due to their unbreakable relationship. Back in the day children were allowed to misbehave on Halloween (that's actually why candy is involved now. It was to negotiate with them to get them to stop being so destructive). One of the worst was a group nailed a wheel to a roof. Sounds right up Lock, Shock, Barrel's mischievous alley, right? I have a throery that connects a lot of the theories surrounding the trio and Oogie Boogie: Lock, Shock and Barrel (Louis, Shirley, and Barry as many fanfics decided their real names were) were best friends. They did just about everything together. It was getting late that fateful Halloween night in 1923. Shirley said it was time to head home; but Louis being the mischievous, arrogant leader he is pushed them into pulling a prank on just one more house. But this house was not the house to be pulling pranks on. The infuriated homeowner kidnapped them on the spot and locked them in the basement as punishment. They tried to escape multiple times. Barry being the sweet, naive 5-year-old that he is mistook multiple bottles of alcohol as something that was safe to drink. Louis and Shirley weren't paying attention until their friend fell unconscious. The homeowner took Barry upstairs placed him in a barrel and dumped the barrel in a nearby river. The homeowner got angry at Louis for allowing Barry to drink the majority of the alcohol, pulling the prank in general, and all of the escape attempts (which Shirley came up with most of them, Louis took the blame because it was kinda his fault that they were in this position), and locked him outside in the snow where he sadly died. The homeowner had some electrical problems but didn't want to call anyone in for the job. So he got Shirley to help him with it. Where a few wrong moves later, she got electrocuted. But to shed any light to this story, the friends were reunited in Halloween Town and don't remember their past lives! Where they continued to misbehave. Fast-forward years down the road, they misbehaved a little too much that day and had to do grave digging chores as punishment. Where Oogie Boogie met them. Oogie fell down the Halloween Holiday Door when he found it. He wandered the woods since his holiday "New Bug Day" was forgotten and his world that he ruled vanished. Oogie manipulated Lock, Shock, and Barrel into becoming his henchmen. Yeah, pretty dark. Actually this is darkest thing I've ever came up with. I know it's just me combining a whole bunch of theories together, but I feel terrible for Lock, Shock, and Barrel now. I was thinking about writing and posting this as a fanfic titled "What Happened 100 Years Ago". With the reunion chapter posted on Halloween 2023 just adding to that bitter sweetness. I'm not sure if I should do it, though.
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@rebekahwallen613 Жыл бұрын
This was really good
@thedepthsofrepair Жыл бұрын
This story read as very believable to me. The past was the worst.
@Peace.and.knowledge1 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive and informative 👏
@Amoeba_underthesea Жыл бұрын
I do really enjoy this theory. I do thing the phrase that they sing “We do our best to please him, and stay on his good side” come into play by thinking that they probably mean that in the sense that they also tried to stay on the good side of their kidnapper, but ultimately failed
@yazminbowyer3157 Жыл бұрын
I thought they were drowned in a bathtub on halloween and that's why they ride around in one in Halloween town, and being Halloween oogie would've had the opportunity to be in the real world to eat or scare misbehaving children, instead of eating them he took pity on them, adopted their souls and took them home to Halloween town I like hearing all these theories though they're all interesting, this is just my theory, the names lock shock and barrell I think could've been nicknames given by oogie as they would've forgotten their real names after death, which I've seen in a few ghost movies and stuff where the spirit will have amnesia because they were taken before their time and they have unfinished business on earth etc Not sure if I've written this well enough to make sense but that's my thoughts on it 😅
@Peace.and.knowledge1 Жыл бұрын
Woah! Very interesting
@WhimsySnailBunny Жыл бұрын
I got a book "The Battle for Pumpkin King" and looking online, it says it's a prequel to the movie and while I don't want to spoil anything for anyone, it does show Lock, Shock, and Barrel in it.
@emilygiarraputo9 ай бұрын
Please do tell!! I don’t mind spoilers
@WhimsySnailBunny9 ай бұрын
@@emilygiarraputo Alrighty, if you insist! Essentially it's a story of about younger Jack and Oogie Boogie where they are good friends, but when they are selected to compete against each other for the title of Pumpkin King, Oogie Boogie is slowly corrupted and turns against Jack, while Jack tries to make things work. The Oogie Boys are toddlers in the book and do help Oogie Boogie.
@Toofargonetosave Жыл бұрын
My theory is that Barrel tumbled down a hill and land in a barrel, kind of like the term barrel rolls, that planes do, but it ended in a more sinister way for him because it caused him to choke on a lollipop which then rolled into the ocean. When Lock and Shock found him, they pulled the barrel they found that was floating in the ocean, when they brought it ashore, they found Barrel's dead body with the lollipop still stuck in his throat, and he never stopped enjoying lollipops, even in death in the afterlife. With Shock I think it has to do around Christmas time where she got electrocuted with Christmas lights, where she got her name from being Shock. With Lock, I feel like he was so sad that Christmas that he went outside to build snowmen of himself and his friends together, then it got cold, so he tried to get back in the house and the door was locked. Then he was locked outside freezing to death dying of hypothermia. Because think about it, Lock looks as if he's frozen to death and the only time it gets insanely cold in the teens or below freezing is in winter time, it would make sense since this movie has both perspectives on Halloween and Christmas. Shock definitely looks as if she got electrocuted, which is why I came up with the idea of the Christmas lights that could have electrocuted her. But also think about her hair, like you said. But that's all kinds of witch's natural looks, their scraggly hair. But there should be a huge detail that it had something to do with electricity or getting electrocuted. Or it could be, when Charlie Brown was shocked, his hair stood on end. People can die from heart attacks, like being scared to death. This could have also resulted when she saw Barrel being dead, she had a heart attack and then later died from it. With Barrel, he does look like he's been drowned because his hair and lips are discolored, same with his sunken eyes, that could have filled with water and then the pressure could have burst, causing his eye sockets to become soggy and droopy. With Lock being frozen his lips are also discolored as if he had been frozen. The reason why he came back to life to be a part of Halloween Town is because his costume is warm. The devil is warm, fire is warm and that's what his costume resembles, being a warm creature that warmed up his body. With Barrel, skeletons are dry, so the fact that he's a skeleton could make him dry and not wet after being drowned. With Shock, she's a witch, and witches use spells and dark magic. Electricity conducts power and energy, so that's a reason she could have come back to life. Barrel could have died as a result of being the bait for their traps, that Lock and Shock used him for. Just like when his head got caught in an actual barrel or cauldron, his face was dusty and dirty.
@thedepthsofrepair Жыл бұрын
Were I penning a dissertation, it would be entitled Lock, Shock, and Stockholm Syndrome. I think Oogie did kidnap them, and they came to identify with him primarily. They had loving families, or not so loving, somewhere.
@TinFoilCat90 Жыл бұрын
Locked in a freezer (that was actually pretty common back in the day because they had latches that didn't open from the inside.) Also its not cold enough in October to freeze. Drown in a barrel of water. Shocked. Murdered children.
@Kermilesa2715Ай бұрын
Some places snow in October
@azadalamiq2 жыл бұрын
i grew up on this film and lock shock and barrel are a "kid friendly" version of lock stock and barrel. And original characters to the movie which is based of the poem tom burton wrote. All of halloween town is based on various traditions of halloween/ samhain. Like jack is the story of jack o'lantern and seen as a scarecrow due to the old nature of harvest festivals. witches flying across the moon, vampires who suck blood slowly started to add to the traditions and folktales. The three trick or treaters are part of the old meaning of trick or treat, which was to dress up as spirits to trick them while going house to house asking for a treat or to be tricked. the characters in question are imps that are the henchmen of oogie boogie. they hold up as part of the tradition, but largely do his bidding. the poem is a good start to really look into the mind of tim burton and this story.
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
That is an interesting take! Thanks for sharing
@saulalfaro882 жыл бұрын
Got into Nightmare Before Christmas not too long ago so as of now I've never looked deep into the lore. However your last and personal theory is the best in my opinion because of the trio's allegiance to oogie boogie as you mentioned. Thanks for always looking deeper into all Disney lore! 🙂
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
Thanks the last one wasn’t my theory but I think it’s solid too! 😁 thanks for watching Saul! I’m glad you are getting into the nightmare before Christmas! It is one of my favorites
@angelicagaldos2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Disney films. I love those three. Thank you for the awesome video my empress
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Angelica ❤️
@angelicagaldos2 жыл бұрын
@@DisneyDailyYT You're very welcome my empress.
@moikey1093 ай бұрын
One of my favorite theories is that they're not dead but infact sterotypes of halloween! Lock being an Imp as you can actually see his tail reacting to his emotions in a few scenes, and one where his tail is actually wagging as he suggests what to do with Santa or Sandy claws. Shock being a witch ofc and Barrel being a ghoul as he like Lock as a inhuman look to him which is, his frog feet! Ofc these three are my favorite characters and I love to imagine what they woild be like grown up so I always like to think of them as just orphans from halloween town.
@Livstocahouse Жыл бұрын
I think lock shock and barrel followed the boogie man Into Halloween town
@CuckooCulture2 жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown! I really am enjoying the breakdowns! Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together! I had a blast watching! Keep up the amazing work Disney Daily! That theory that Lock, Shock & Barrel being kidnapped while mis behaving during Halloween is pretty cool!
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ❤ I am so glad you enjoyed it :)
@asteroses Жыл бұрын
I like the idea more that Lock was locked outside while trying to pull just one more prank (or 5) despite it being cold enough for hypothermia to mess up his judgement and kill him (can happen at temps as high as 10°C/50°F), Shock was attempting a very clever prank involving messing with new-fangled electricity thing, and Barrel had set up and filled a bathtub or barrel with water where someone would trip into it. He was going to watch the prank unfold from a roof or treetop, but fell and hit his head so hard he fell unconscious, and thus was drowning. Then came the idea that Ooogie beat the Grim Reaper in a gambling challenge and offered each kid a ticket out of death and into Halloween Town. (Death being beaten in a game or gambling has its own long history in folklore). This could also help justify why our three favorite trick-or-treaters are so devoted to him: gratitude and delight at their escaping death into the most amazing quasi-afterlife they could have ever wanted. Bonus historical aspects: there were Little Ice Ages from the 16th to 19th centuries, so freezing temperatures on October 31st were possible further south than nowadays. A single watch of Dr. Suzannah Lipscomb's Hidden Killers episode on the Victorian and Edwardian Eras show just how terrifyingly easy death by electrocution was, especially for children. Certainly people did get struck by lightning Now I've got a fanfic idea...
@toddhicks7377 Жыл бұрын
Great post great information. Thanks so much
@williambuckley-w2l11 күн бұрын
Maybe Lock, Shock, And Barrel maybe ate poisoned Halloween candy because they are the finest trick or treaters, they probably got candy and didin't care about checking them and probably wanted to scare their parents resulting in death.
@TimaScribbles Жыл бұрын
Barrel went over Niagara Falls in a barrel haha
@samanthathunder7902Ай бұрын
Let’s all take a moment for the children that really did pass away on Halloween. These small movie things can be big reminders to us all. This Halloween, stay close and have fun! Leave an extra candy out for the ghost children coming around ❤️
@mannyshrooms6597 Жыл бұрын
I just watched this video from Deluxe that theorized that barrel is the little blue boy from Coraline. But I think not only that but maybe oogie is some sort of paternal figure in the real world. Maybe he groomed him to lure his friends? That's why they all hate him, he got them killed. If we believe that the little blue boy is barrel, we can look at the picture of the sad boy losing his ice cream. In movies, Ice cream is associated with nostalgia. It also represents struggle or conflict for an innocent person. In Coraline the little blue boys ice cream is on the ground in the real world, but he's enjoying it in the other world indicating that the loss of his "ice cream" that effected the boy wasn't in the other world but conflict was still represented in the ice cream itself. Which is how LSB act. Uneffected by death or monsters... except oogie. Oogie broke the boy down (represented by the choice of dessert, ice cream) killed him and his friends (the loss of his ice cream) but then. In the other world oogies problems are back with him. Even though he no longer suffers the loss of one of his hardships he still has internal conflict. Also blue boy is the name of a weapon that has a double barrel.... But I just needed to get this out lol
@jimmylausen442 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Disney Daily. I loved hearing about their backstory. I also just got your book and it is really good
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
You read it already? You are quick Jimmy!
@jimmylausen442 жыл бұрын
@@DisneyDailyYT well I didn't finish it yet but so far its really good
@mallorylong4749 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always tried focusing on the background decor where Oogie boogie lives to see if I see an electric chair or something that could cause a deadly shock. Or things like a barrel or a lock.
@shimerrill967Ай бұрын
All 3 died during different time eras. Lock died by getting locked out of his house during winter (his need for warmth) Shock died by electric chair (truly a bad kid) Barrel died by a stranger drowning him in a barrel full of water (didn’t deserve it)
@RosesGarden6803 күн бұрын
I always thought it was because of "lock stock and barrel"..
@ZayneGonzalez-c8c3 ай бұрын
There’s a book called battle for pumpkin king and it shows the trick or treaters as babies working for oogie boogie
@Toofargonetosave2 ай бұрын
I'm still keeping my prediction for Lock's real name as Logan. It suits him more
@kendonovan235125 күн бұрын
I always thought that barrel got poisoned
@erenanmami7337Ай бұрын
Hey, I want to give more clues...Have you heard about the legend of St Nicolas?!! Tim Burton was inspired by it to write this film! It is the story of three lost children and how they have been killed and put in a barrel by a guy named Schwartz and saved by St Nicolas (kinda Santa Claus). I've been horrified by this story when I was 11 y.o...
@Danielle-hp7wq4 күн бұрын
I first thought it was barrel because of a gunshot because I'm pretty sure there is a part of a gun called barrel
@BingeV3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if they really have a truly thought-out backstory. According to the bogeyman legend, he would steal misbehaving boys and girls. It is likely lock, shock and barrel are just kidnapped misbehaving children. This would make sense since they do misbehave in the movie (ignoring jack's orders, throwing stuff at the mayor, etc). They also worship bogeyman and do his bidding most likely out of fear (since they were kidnapped by him).
@F-Los Жыл бұрын
Deadites. Like in evil dead. I think Beetlejuice is one too
@raymondweis908 ай бұрын
I belive in the Broadway show its stated he's an actual demon or a half demon
@WonderfulDayJavier2 жыл бұрын
You have very unique content. I'm really enjoying it!
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jav!! Enjoyed watching you the other day on the podcast! Just subscribed 😄
@WonderfulDayJavier2 жыл бұрын
@@DisneyDailyYT thanks! I hope you enjoy my content.
@SuperJoshuacaudill Жыл бұрын
Well my favorite tick or treater is lock becaues he is the leader of the grop
@ThemeParkLyfeStyle2 жыл бұрын
So I never really cared for this movie, but I did find how the created the movie cool. Great content about this back story theory!
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Theme! I have been super into horror since I was like three 😂 so I think that’s why I’ve always loved the movie
@niamtxiv2 жыл бұрын
Love it
@bellez.112 жыл бұрын
with all the facts in the video, I’m now starting to think what if lock with his bad behaviour on halloween he tried locking someone else out, maybe a family member who tried stopping them form the storm about to happen that night, but once he didn’t listen and left the adults locked in and after the night the rain made a lot slippery and he couldn’t open the door going to his death? And for shocked mabey after the rain she came in the plug something in and because she hadn’t dried if before the got electric
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
Ooo thanks for sharing your theory!
@truelovescharm Жыл бұрын
i think they sold there soles to him
@Canev8212 жыл бұрын
I thought barrel was for gun barrel and they died on Halloween
@DisneyDailyYT2 жыл бұрын
It could be! These are all just theories
@nightryder122723 күн бұрын
I have a theory of mine too I think they are dead back came back as monster their names resembles to their death the first one lock he died of freezing to death his face is pale and his lips are ice blue I guess he got accidentally lock out of his home and froze to death and the reason he a demon he probably was a mean bully and troublemaker, and shock she died of electrical that why her hair is like that and she maybe be love science and does witchcrafts that why she a witch cause he was trying to do potions but it was dangerous and when she was doing an experiment it got wrong and died of electricity and barrel he was probably murder and his body was stuffed in a barrel killers do that however they killed them shot stubbed or strangle to death and they put his his corpse in the barrel and his body decay and that why he looks like a skeleton. That why they can’t be normal children their faces are pale white and their eyes are not normal their were friends bad kids mischievous who died and came back as monster and went to Halloween town cause that the day they pranks kids scare them and steal candy. This is my theory their names were the reason why I think that was their backstory and they why they never aged is because their dead and died at that age cause Halloween was about for a long time and if they died in the earlier 1900 thousand and that show was made in 1993 they still look the same when the kids monster at the Halloween town the corpse and mummy kid they can’t aged cause they died like in corpse bride the skeleton kids they can’t aged or grow cause their skeleton and they don’t grow or became an adult cause you can’t grow up when your dead well that my theory I want to see what you think of it.
@RichardBobadilla-t4lАй бұрын
No I am the boogie man
@Livstocahouse Жыл бұрын
I think barrel drowend
@mateoaguilar44362 жыл бұрын
Berall
@Mitchlol21noicefortnitelover Жыл бұрын
That’s not true lock died from being frozen barrel died from drowning lock died from a natural death
@Livstocahouse Жыл бұрын
I think the oogie boogie man killed them
@scmxtube Жыл бұрын
Please learn how to pronounce the word “mischievous”! (not mis-chee-vee-ous) Please learn how to say the phrase “by accident” (not “on accident”)!