New Orleans Saints, Mickey Loomis Should Avoid Familiarity In Head Coach Search

[@LockedOnSaints]

What do you think the score of the Saints and Raiders game will be?

[@johnmule9419]

Raiders 20 Saints 8..with the players we'll put out there I don't see us doing much scoring (except a meaningless TD at the end of the game). The only chance the Saints have is to generate turnovers (a possibility with the Raiders). Otherwise, it is bleak. Rattler has not engineered a scoring drive of more than 60 yards in the games he's played in this year.

[@joshuasecrest]

I like Aaron Glenn but I feel like this franchise as a whole has to cut off the Payton era completely. No surprise Loomis wants someone he is familiar with, it’s pretty obvious the game has passed him by. Hasn’t drafted well in a while, destroyed the team’s salary cap, resigned old vets, let rookie upcomers walk. I think us as fans know no real changes will come until Loomis is gone. And Gayle needs to start being held accountable. Look at what the Pelicans have become this season. If no front office changes occur, do we expect just a new head coach to change the way this franchise is ran?

[@1001011011010]

While it may be too early to tell just this past draft seemed pretty solid

[@brantfekete7812]

@@1001011011010also I think our drafting isn’t as bad as we like to say it is sure it has been poor at times but there has been some decent picks!

[@1001011011010]

@@brantfekete7812 Yeah I mean I think the draft is a bit of an iffy thing in general. Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss. That's how it goes

[@brantfekete7812]

@@1001011011010absolutely even the best scouts are gonna miss sometimes such as the players work ethic his character his durability his motivation and attitude and of course his talent all of those things are important and they all matter

[@geoffhoutman1557]

It’s our draft trading that’s the worst part. Mickey is the worst by a mile

[@wolfbisbing486]

I don’t want anyone that has connections to the Saints whatsoever. The only reason to go with a coach that has Saints connections is we can’t get anyone else. I’m tired of the some ole same crap.

[@mrmonty86]

Aaron Glenn = Running it back Darren Rizzi = Running it back Someone outside these two = Moving forward from the Payton era for good. This may be sensitive, but Aaron Glenn, just like Eric Bienamy and Brian Flores, will typically check the boxes of the Rooney Rule. I wouldn't hold my breath for either of these men as the Saints next HC.

[@Mgg2601]

True but, I do think Glenn would be the perfect type that Loomis would sign. Hes not a rock the boat type coach. No big time HC candidate wants to come here lol.. So let’s not act like we have so many choices.

[@mrmonty86]

@@Mgg2601 If a big-time coach wants to be here, it'll be costly, but it also means that Loomis will have little or no autonomy over the roster.

[@Mgg2601]

@@mrmonty86 I agree with that. Guess we shall see. It may surprise us all who they pick.

[@alldaysportstalk365]

I want to see what CEH can do

[@brandoncraft5847]

Loomis has to go. This is his creation. He cannot hire another coach or draft again. He can stay VP but he has to hire a real deal GM. I’m not dropping another 15k next year if Loomis is still there. I’ll drop to 2 seats and sell as soon as they hit my seat geek.

[@brantfekete7812]

Agreed since he is pretty much untouchable that’s honestly the best case scenario he can stay with the Saints organization but no longer the GM or the man responsible for all the decision making

[@brandoncraft5847]

@ when the pocket book gets hit next year he will be forced to give up GM. There were more commanders fans than saints and the place was as empty as I’ve seen it in over a decade. Raiders game likely to be the same.

[@geoffhoutman1557]

Packers game should’ve been his last straw

[@brantfekete7812]

@@brandoncraft5847 I was there too I wouldn’t say they’re were more commander fans necessarily but they’re were a lot of them that’s just more proof Loomis has to give up his GM duties bc when he does many of us Saints fans will stop selling our tickets 🎫!

[@brantfekete7812]

@@geoffhoutman1557 I do agree with that I hope Gayle Benson sees the outrage of the Who Dat Nation and forces Mickey to step down!

[@jaylancole7406]

Unless something drastic happens how is Clyde not in the RB room next fall

[@MRGS1.5]

Unlike Dennis Allen when the injuries set in l, in Detroit that defense remains competitive.

[@TheRealTeflonRon]

We draft OL 1st round seems like every year. We need to change a lot of things and it’s gotta be the draft to start with. That young bull Qb outta Army remind me of Taysom Hill and got almost more TD’s than Barry Sanders in 1 season.

[@thechosen3332]

...say wha? First off, are you suggesting we draft a gadget player? Because you sure as shit are not drafting an Army QB to play QB. This team has holes EVERYWHERE. That would be a luxury pick..at best. Second, it's an Army player. You do know that they have contractual obligations to, ya know, the Army. So unless he requests and is granted permission to get out of his contract, which is unlikely, he ain't playing in the NFL anytime soon.

[@TheRealTeflonRon]

@ nobody said draft anybody Qb from the army. You clearly ain’t read anything I said. You only said what I didn’t say. You make it seem like I make the calls on who to draft. Pipe it down and take a seat somewhere 🤣

[@thechosen3332]

​@@TheRealTeflonRonYou mentioned how we draft o-linemen 1st round every year and how we need to change things up. Then you bring up liking the Army QB because he reminds you of Hill. Not sure what I misunderstood. Thank GOD you don't make decisions on who they draft.

[@TheRealTeflonRon]

@ keep doing things the way you want our team will still be the same as it was the past years. If the car is broken fix it don’t keep repairing the car if it gives you issues. I like the the cheerleaders for the Clemson Tiger and according to you, you think I’m talking about drafting Cheerleaders now 😂 Bro you should be asking God to teach you how to read what’s written instead of looking goofy trying to read in between lines.

[@thechosen3332]

​@@TheRealTeflonRonjust...just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.

[@vetointhehouse]

Micky bout to hire Coach Allen Dennis.

[@LZ21-]

Joe Brady if we go familiarity, Glenn is such a retread hire it’s not even funny, I’m certain he’s a better leader then DA, but I’m good to go back to that same tree who was under DA, heck Frank smith in Miami if we are desperate to go familiarity, was our assistant line coach for 5 seasons and has certainly done his apprenticeship under McDaniel, gruden, Payton, staley (lol) he got 2 interviews last season and was Carolinas 3rd option

[@TrumpsTrashTruck]

@@LZ21- Brady is def better. Vrabel is my choice bc he’s the best we could actually have a shot at. Ben Johnson wouldn’t come here even if we offered him more than everyone

[@LZ21-]

@ yeh, yet some people act as if we even have a chance at him, at this rate I doubt he’d even interview with us outside of the fact maybe dan and Glenn have said good things to him about Mickey or something, but yeh wouldn’t mind vrabel either just that offensive coordinator hire is crucial, lafleur was good and smith was good but when he had to go to downing it was terrible really, Tim Kelly last season wasn’t to bad tbh, he actually made Levis look more competent then he does now under the guy who was meant to truly unlock him in Callahan. Titans should of kept vrabel and giving kelly another season with him, I still remember how good that titans performance was against Miami last season, they were great. But I’m not sure about keeping kubiak that’s why I speak on kelly still young to, kubiak has definitely fallen off a cliff in his play calling, it’s slowly got more and more bland and vanilla, and just some stupid calls at times. He’s part of the problem imo, I still think Spence has got something there if we didn’t have bums running routes 💀 mv gets a pass but Kevin Austin, ced, pettis are horrid, haven’t really seen much of Tipton either if any. If we had shaheed olave together with Spence and another receiver we’d be much better, kubiak is playing for his job though and really should determine if we go offense or defensive mind

[@johnmule9419]

You can start talking about the draft because Aaron Glenn is the next HC...pretty easy to predict what Mickey will do next...oh sure, he'll interview several "candidates" (just like he did with the DA hire...when everybody knew DA was gonna be the next coach)...and he'll pick Glenn anyway...next years roster will still be filled with the same old guys playing out their careers and retreads discarded by other teams along with a few "potential" good young prospects and our ever longer list of draft busts or near busts...Carr will be QB1...they can't really rebuild because they don't have enough quality young players to build around (because of mediocre to downright bad drafts since 2018 and the cap situation is still horrific). In other words, they are stuck. Probably for at least 2-3 years.

[@tonyweakley1406]

Kubiack wasn't familiar how did that work out

[@geoffhoutman1557]

Klint Karmichael has been less than impressive

[@brianwii623]

I like Aaron Glenn but don’t like Loomis

[@slimsouth5047]

It's time for some new blood new direction Who Dat ⚜

[@geoffhoutman1557]

Loomis should be not involved in the GM search OR the HC search.

[@Redboy533]

I disagree. Aaron Glenn very successful with Dan Campbell regime. This is not Dennis Allen. Give this young black coach an opportunity.

[@BillyRayValentineFCOJ]

Young? He's 51. He's the same age as Mike Tomlin and Dennis Allen. He would be in the top ten oldest HCs on day one. And if Mike McCarthy and Pederson get fired as expected, it would actually be top 7 oldest. What he is or is not, he is certainly not a young coach.

[@jermainescott3506]

I agree with the person who commented Rex Ryan…Defense will be top notch to go along with Kubiak with all these predictable running plays

[@1001011011010]

I think Joe Brady could be a great HC candidate if we could get him, personally.

[@TooCoolToCare32]

It doesn't matter what HC the Saints hire and if they fire ML, mfs cannot stay healthy anyway. Player's injuries played the biggest part in this season failures than anything else

[@georgeroberts506]

Staying with the Sean Payton coaching tree what got you in trouble for 4 years now

[@bigceesthebusinessman814]

I hope Rizzi can impress enough over the last few games to win the coaching gig. Here's the thing.... We keep talking about anti-familiarity being the order of the day. However familiarity isn't the issue. The issue is familiarity being selected over a better available option. Dennis Allen had already shown that despite familiarity with Payton that he wasn't a good head coach but was selected due to that familiarity. Glenn being selected had he not coached here would be celebrated due to the Lions success, where as Allen had none apart from Payton.

[@esongsore]

I agree with you 100%.

[@brantfekete7812]

I agree I love Aaron Glenn I see everyone’s point in wanting a fresh start and not wanting anyone with Sean Payton ties but to be fair Aaron Glenn does deserve a shot as head coach and who knows he might bring great culture to our club 🤷‍♂️

[@Tramall_Mally_Mal]

If Gayle Benson keeps Mickey as GM next season she doesn't care about her team.

[@thechosen3332]

Listen..if you have ever worked with, for, or stood close to Loomis or Payton, you should IMMEDIATELY be disqualified as a candidate. Bruh..it was time to clean house on that regime YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@C-money007]

Miss Benson should step in once again and strip him off his powers to search for the next head coach. She should let Kyle Hurley take over his GM make Luma should’ve been fired with Dennis Allen.

[@nevellewis3547]

WHO DAT

[@TrumpsTrashTruck]

I will be furious if they get Glenn

[@BillyRayValentineFCOJ]

He's not going to be a good HC

[@OSSM_trauma]

😂 This team is a joke. Mrs Benson, please give Loomis a different position

[@geoffhoutman1557]

@Ross Surely bringing back the same GM year after year is the definition of insanity?

[@eddykane4297]

Bruh, you ppl need to chill Loomis is responsible for keeping the team a float for years look at colts without their coach and qb duo, giants , patriots, it happens he made a mistake give the man a chance to fix it

[@thechosen3332]

...how many chances do you give someone to be successful? This is the difference between winning franchises and losing franchise. Are you ok with mediocrity? Winning franchises are not..losing franchises are. Loomis has been the GM since 2002. Thats 22 years. The Saints have been to the playoffs 9 times in 22 years with one SB. And he has eaten off that SB, almost 14 years!!!!!, since. The Saints have the worst cap situation in the league, by far! There is a good argument to be made that they are the least desirable option for head coaching prospects. Tell me what you are excited for as far as this current team's future. All of that is 1000% on Loomis and he should have been gone years ago. The only reason he isn't is because the Benson's care more for "loyalty" than winning.

[@FarringByers-s5r]

Agreed!!

[@1B2B-ReyA]

Rex Ryan.....

[@mrmonty86]

Hell no!!!!

[@1B2B-ReyA]

@mrmonty86 Rex a have an identity immediately. He was Dan Campbell before Dan.

[@jermainescott3506]

Hellllll yessss he would get the defensive right and bring a culture

[@lestershipman3039]

Helllllll noooooo!!!!!

[@1B2B-ReyA]

@@lestershipman3039 Rex, Rob and their pops Buddy Ryan are legends.

[@michaelmitchell2243]

actually it;s probably time to get rid of mickey mouse loomis, this guy has cost this team many prime players in the past , he;s a clown