[1552] Bothstar “Smart” Doorknob is Dumb Choice

[@Voltaic_Fire]

Who wants to bet that the magnet resistance is a byproduct of cheap materials rather than a conscious design choice?

[@cmdraftbrn]

$1

[@wictimovgovonca320]

I was wondering if the keypad is mechanical like a simplex lock

[@Voltaic_Fire]

@@wictimovgovonca320 Whichever is cheaper to make.

[@StacheMan26]

No bet.

[@AttilaAsztalos]

@@wictimovgovonca320 If it were, there would be no charging port on the bottom I suppose.

[@johnnyosprey6056]

When the wave rake comes out, you know it’s all over.

[@TheMariusDarkwolf]

They're taking that "you will own nothing" thing a bit literal.

[@johnnyosprey6056]

@@TheMariusDarkwolf 😂

[@MichaelGreen831]

When the video starts…

[@wr3ckt4ngl3]

More so when the comb pick comes out

[@vcprado]

It's all ogre now

[@PhillyMotoXTS]

From an amateur lock picking perspective, whenever I see the wave rake I feel good knowing even I could pick it.

[@cr10001]

Funnily enough, I can never make a wave rake work, even on the few padlocks I can single pin pick.

[@austinestep8461]

@@cr10001raking can be kind of a pain since it’s not a motion most people are used to doing and it’s easy to stab yourself if you get a bit energetic and pull the rake out of the lock (I’ve definitely never done that, that mark on my hand has always been there) if you’re not already try applying a small amount of upward force when you rake so you make sure your lifting the pins high enough.

[@TomJakobW]

⁠​⁠@@austinestep8461 the wave rake can also be a bit “aggressive” in its bitting; might try a snake instead, if it doesn’t work. But a Wave Rake is great for kinetic attacks/zipping, because of exactly the aggressive shape! Edit: Nice side effect of using the snake is, if you’re still stabbing yourself, you can say it was the snake biting you and not your fault. 🥸

[@austinestep8461]

@@TomJakobW ha, I may need to try that

[@bubba22987]

"Customer security wasn't worth the cost." Exactly. The question asked is simple, "How can we increase profit." Thanks LPL.

[@grantofat6438]

When people buy the locks anyway, then why should they make them better? That would be stupid. They make what people want to buy, and apparently that is bad locks.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

You want security? Hire a bodyguard. We only sell locks.

[@TesserId]

I'm beginning to think there's a conspiracy.

[@DarkLeon02]

​@@grantofat6438That argument is kind of true, however, what choice do you have if you, as a customer, just don't know any better? What I mean is, customers most likely buy these locks because they think it provides decent security. And I think that comes also from false advertisments on some of these locks claiming themselves as secure against picking, etc.

[@-Xzoom-]

@@DarkLeon02 Just use more money when you buy a lock. Buy for example Abloy locks. In Finland we are used to put more money to the security of our houses. We do not even have any of those cheaper and simpler locks generally available, because no one would buy those.

[@sangraal043]

If it looks safe, then it IS safe.... At least that is what the lock manufacturer wants us to believe. Another shameful example of over-priced garbage being touted as a good safe lock.... Thanks LPL for all you do.

[@Solnoric]

Best lock in the world won't stop someone that wants to get in. If they think the lock will take too long they ignore it. The only thing a lock will keep out is an honest person.

[@madtabby66]

That’s sort of true. Thieves for the most part aren’t very bright. So if they see something that looks difficult, they’ll avoid it.

[@sangraal043]

@@Solnoric guess if people were honest one wouldn't need a lock.... Hmmm...

[@thedudeamongmengs2051]

​@@Solnoriclocks keep out honest and lazy people. A lock alone will never stop someone who's very determined, but most criminals won't be very determined. If something looks too hard to pick, they'll just break it. If it looks too hard to break, they'll find another target unless you're obviously keeping something valuable

[@Just_A_Dude]

@@thedudeamongmengs2051 I had a situation a couple winters ago where I'd forgotten to lock the back door up and had run out for an errand. When I got back, I caught some little shit trying to Grinch the presents under my tree. From the security footage, he was just going down the street shaking hands with doorknobs until he found one that was open. Not even trying to pick anything.

[@matthewtalbot-paine7977]

Customer: Oh look I got a bluetooth lock for my door isn't it cool Man with a wave rake: I bet I can open it without the key before you can unlock your phone to open it.

[@XSemperIdem5]

Person with wave rake already inside, taking off their shoes. Person with phone having to force quit and reopen the app because it froze. 😂

[@BFedie518]

LPL: "Something even a novice picker could easily defeat." Me: "Well as long as you can't use a wave rake." LPL: *pulls out wave rake*

[@glenmatthes8839]

My first thought whenever he says "a novice picker could do this" is "here comes the wave rake!" I've yet to be disappointed.

[@simonspacek3670]

I want LPL to make a lifestream where we can bet. "Here I have this lock that is not so secure, what will open it? Comb? Waverake? Bypass turner? Knife?" All accumulated money will be donated to charity.

[@Henry-ov7rh]

I was rooting for this lock when I heard the magnet couldn't beat it, and then my heart sank when the wave rake came out.

[@Tomatolover120]

Haha we'll show him, we'll replace the magnetic part with plastic!

[@dinguloid]

I mean, he literally called the lock dumb in the title. So, read?

[@FS2K4Pilot]

Rule of thumb: if the video is in the neighborhood of two minutes, the lock is going to be shit.

[@Brave_Brevity]

I swear the waverake is a near perfect skeleton key for any keyhole.

[@chrisschoenthaler5184]

And that concept is due to how terrible people are at making secure locks.

[@CptJistuce]

The vorpal key cuts through any lock.

[@Dw7freak]

I always love seeing these doorknob locks on the channel because it reaffirms my paranoia that the front door is the most easily accessible part of the house yet has the worst security measures.

[@BlazingKhioneus]

When you hear "novice lockpicker" you know what happens next. That's right! Waverake

[@Metroid9824]

What LPL doesn’t seem to realize is that these aren’t “brands”. They are fly by night companies that disappear in a year. They don’t care if they’re secure or not, they don’t care if they get a trash review. They’ll disappear and regroup as another company with a slightly different product with another alphabet soup style brand name. Literally case in point, this particular lock was called IULock previously, and now they renamed it to Bothstar.

[@cole009productions7]

Interesting…

[@sarcofaygo6218]

He has mentioned this phenomenon in the past with Chinese Locks

[@panda4247]

"no bluetooth or wifi" --> that is actually a good thing (even more so considering that it's Amazon and what they did lately)

[@matthewmosier8439]

Yep. That company is a danger to society

[@CptJistuce]

Someone's going to ask, so for context: Amazon shut down someone's account because a delivery driver accused their doorbell of shouting racial slurs at them while they weren't home. This killed Amazon Alexa, which was their primary interface with their smart home.

[@Wooargh]

Don't you know that Amazon is partnered with Google and Google owns KZbin? You're not allowed to say bad things about Amazon here. I'm reporting you to Google so you can be cancelled.

[@fisk0]

@@CptJistuce You almost make them sound like a responsible if ill-advised company though, I'd say a bigger issue was when they were caught spying on their customers, and distributing private footage of their homes.

[@CptJistuce]

@@fisk0 I wouldn't call "killed all services immediately because a driver accused them of something they did when they weren't home" responsible. If they'd suspended delivery runs pending an investigation, then sure. But killing the account and all associated services? And god help the man if he hadn't had a porch cam with microphone to prove his innocence.

[@wr3ckt4ngl3]

When his ad for CovertInstruments takes longer than the actual opening

[@bikeny]

GMTA.

[@22gjreyes]

CEO when asked to buy some security pins worth a few cents: I am not gonna financially recover from this!

[@Bird_Dog00]

Well, form a purely economic point of view it does make sense. Why invest any money at all in a feature that is invisble and the overwhelming majority of customers won't ever notice?

[@Tomatolover120]

I didn't even know security pins existed or what they were until I started watching this channel.

[@robbo1415]

Such a deft touch. I started down this rabbit hole some years ago after finding this genius and he makes it look way easier than it is.

[@missipgaming6174]

I do not comment on many videos or channels, but I've got to say that I love the work that you do. I have learned so much from watching you. I work in IT for a financial institution and have demonstrated what I've learned from you to my boss and they were happy to supply me with a lock picking kit of my own, albeit a cheap one. However, it gets the job done and has been a useful tool at my job. We had a situation where a home owner took their keys when the house foreclosed and I had to get in and change the locks, and I was able to pick it open. Thank you for all that you do.

[@JayChampagne]

Not being able to open it with a magnet is a BIG plus. If you replace the cylinder on your own, you'd seem to have a really good product.

[@LeonardRoberts]

Other then he said they used plastic parts in some key places, so not sure if they could be reasonably upgraded

[@cheeseparis1]

the electronic part of it may be opened with a magnet

[@orbatos]

No, it's passing such a low bar it shouldn't have to be mentioned.

[@zidane2k1]

I guess at that point, we might as well have spent the additional money on a better product instead

[@kutter_ttl6786]

​​@@cheeseparis1PL already mentioned at 0:25 that it will not open when exposed to a magnet.

[@flyingdeathcatsgo]

Gotta be scary for a company when there product ends up here

[@billstevens3796]

They must have incredible margins on this. Probably 30 - 50% at least. They're laughing all the way to the bank.

[@namelessusername4267]

To be fair, LPL makes every lock look like a bad choice…

[@eddief32]

I'd love to see him create and market his own brand of lock, using all the techniques that he knows, in order to defeat other pickers, so make it resistant to raking, put multiple security pins in, make everything out of metal, no plastic parts, no holes you can poke stuff in, and so on.

[@wictimovgovonca320]

I figure I will have a heart attack the day he finds a lock to recommend.

[@wafu6058]

I mean the bowey lock is still unpickable/undefeatable in that there are no currently available ways to attack or open it successfully without the key

[@jamesfair9751]

@@wafu6058it’s been picked many times now

[@Aozoramurasaki]

@@eddief32 the trouble is if a lock is 100 unpickable and you forget your key then what. if the door is too hard to unlock a thief will break the door, are you ready to do that if you forget your keys, are your going to also secure the door and the windows of your house so its like a unbreakable vault, make sure to never loose theose key

[@KarolOfGutovo]

The fact that LPL didn't fall into any security pin but he assumes that there still might be some is the cherry on top. Realises he might have went around the security measure without realising.

[@mbedj1974]

If there was any security pin the waverake wouldn't have worked

[@SeeStuDo]

LPL "waving" goodbye to another security claim. 😂

[@Alexisilver]

"...something even a novice picker could easily defeat." Let's see that wave rake!

[@RayTX1337]

WIth this new generation of smart security solutions I finally understand why security by obscurity might actually be the better choice.

[@InvntdXNEWROMAN]

You would think a bare minimum standard exists for locks and it would require said lock to not be defeated by a wave rake but here we are...

[@canebro1]

In this day and age every pin should be a security pin.

[@asicdathens]

penny pinching x thousands of locks => more money in the bank

[@leohebert4012]

😂 Let me show you just how bad it is.

[@danielbishop1164]

Smooth as warm butter .perfect performance. 😊

[@thepagan5432]

You make picking locks look so easy, that's why I have 8 dogs. You would think that in this day and age there would be fundamental changes to locks making them much harder to bypass. Thank you for posting your continued demolishing of the lock industry.

[@GamesFromSpace]

Because having 8 dogs means everything you own is covered in fur and not worth stealing?

[@tses10519]

​@GamesFromSpace depending on the breed of dog & the dog itself, one dog could be worth a thousand locks... I could tell you more than a few stories of my Catahoula leopard dog protecting his home & family but my thumbs aren't up for the task, honestly tho, I'd trust one good dog over any number of "high-grade" locks any day.

[@thepagan5432]

@@GamesFromSpace Not at all. Biggest dog is 165lb and she is very protective. The rest of the dogs will see anyone out the door, even the ankle biters.

[@thepagan5432]

@@tses10519 I agree nothing gets past the dogs. We live half way up a mountain in west Wales, out of the way. The dogs hear and sense everything, and react to it too.

[@tses10519]

@thepagan5432 my dog has tracked car shoppers, scared off attempted intruders, he was on constant guard of my daughter from the age of 2, all kinds of things this good boy has done over the last 7 years, with nothing more than basic obedience training. When he does leave this world, it will be a very hard day on our family. When I cut a lock of mine because the key no longer works... well into the metal recycling bin it goes... IMO locks aren't even a match for man's best friend.

[@davidp2888]

Add this to the long list of locks I won’t be using in my next house.

[@halfadam]

It is never a fluke.

[@jmr]

I'd like to start hearing if cylinders can be changed or rekeyed on the locks where that's the only major flaw.

[@raymond19001]

You should be able to. Take the lock to a real locksmith and ask them to install security pins in the cylinder. That extra cost will make your lock more secure.

[@jmr]

@@raymond19001 I've done plenty of rekeys myself. It's just that some of these smart locks aren't always worth it or don't make disassembly and reassembly possible without damage. I would prefer locks that allow me to change the core to something like Everest.

[@MarioSratss]

Thanks to you I never feel me safe 😂 Your videos are really awesome. Love it so much 😁

[@hafenbraut]

"This is my waverake. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My waverake is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life."

[@JohnDlugosz]

When I bought a keypad lock for the door leading from the garage, I also got a Mul-T-Lock cylinder for it, not because I was aware of the shoddy backup locks in such products, but simply because I wanted it to have the same key as the other doors.

[@henryginn7490]

"Wasn't worth the cost" is so much worse considering that the cost is so small that if you saw a coin with that value on the street, it wouldn't even be worth bending over to pick it up.

[@coolwinner05]

There should be a series about products that are worth the money. Any kinds of products based on the price, security, and functionalities.

[@K4RN4GE911]

"We've made our smart knob magnet proof!" Great! What about the security pins? "...Security what now?"

[@williamsl798]

I noticed that the design forces you to install the keypad on the same side as the door's hinges; "Security" is clearly just a brand name.

[@bluephreakr]

Imagine gifting a tech-paranoid security-conscious acquaintance this, being a good friend by helping them to install it, then some months later roll on up to wave-rake your way into their house.

[@Sparky_D]

If you want to sell a lock, hire this guy first.

[@Sylocat]

The lack of bluetooth and wi-fi is an advantage, from a security standpoint. A shame about the everything else.

[@JBfromKY]

LPL has caused me to staff my property with overnight security guards.

[@dahn57]

I'll never understand why these companies don't even bother with security pins. The cost is insignificant, as is the actual effort they would have to put in. And it would at least make their locks a bit more secure, which is their actual job!

[@dbfcrell8300]

I would LOVE if you could post an interview with any of the decision makers from this company on why they make choices to save 8¢ over making their products get higher security marks. Maybe you should talk to law makers about false advertising when it comes to security.

[@DracoFire3000]

As soon as you see the wave rake you know it's practically already open.

[@Silentguy_]

Someone at work ordered a bunch of these things about a year or so ago and I got my hands on one to test and sure enough, just a few seconds of raking was all it took

[@mattbrown5511]

The illusion of security continues unabated.

[@Pw6872]

But it LOOKS cool and that's what's important to lots of consumers today.

[@itoibo4208]

I like the look of it. not so much the buttons but the handle.

[@DconBlueZ]

Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!

[@mfoxx3969]

Thank you for this video. I almost bought this on Amazon. Thankfully, I always check for reviews.

[@yozarian86]

This channel has taught me that locks are useless against anyone with a little experience and the right tools. Get one that can’t be opened with a wave, a rake, a metal sliver bypass or a magnet. It will be easy to pick, but that’s still the most you can hope for.

[@ViaFerrataCH]

Amazing you can feel security pins without seeing them

[@Davlavi]

Informative as always.

[@arthurhartwick7974]

Your videos are always soothing, like comfort food, but with nutritional value.

[@CommandProMC]

Whenever he pulls out his wave rake, I just think 'oh no'.

[@midimusicforever]

I wouldn't want a "smart" lock.

[@Iowa599]

We could rely on the keypad & fill the key hole with JB weld, as long as we have another way in (like another door)… How's the security of the electronic part?

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

"A few cents worth of security pins" I never thought those things cost that much.. I may not have many cents, but clearly I have more sense than those guys

[@AndrewWilsonOz]

Buy one, put security pins in it. Wait for the confused house breakers reactions.

[@Gkitchens1]

What amazes me so kuch is that so many locks could be bunped from terrible to decent/good simply by including security pins. Tiny little bit of metal that are probably 1000 for a dollar or less. I would honestly consider using this knob if it wasn't pickable by the wind.

[@jongonegone1262]

its all in his tools, those are tools he loves.

[@CharlesGriswold]

It's kind of crazy to expect your door lock to actually keep people from casually waltzing into your house after spending two seconds picking the lock.

[@deputyrook6232]

buying these locks is like spending millions to raise a huge castle wall and then leaving the front door open.

[@ChristofferOrrmalmUtsi]

I am not anywhere near a lockpicker myself, even I am able to see that was an embarrassingly bad lock.

[@stylesrj]

At first when he put the tension thing in, I was like "Ooh is he going to slowly pick those pins?" Then out came the wave rake and I was like "Nope. It's all over."

[@Cascadence87]

LPL: "...the maker seems to have decided it's customers security was not worth the cost". **"Smart" Lock Manufacturer In Shambles**

[@christopherbedford9897]

*_$20_* - for the security equivalent of two cans and a piece of string. Talk of your garden variety contempt for the customer.

[@hensli]

Oh my god, any lock is a bad choice if they’re just going to kick the door down…

[@rafsandomierz5313]

The only way to stop criminal from lock picking is to buy doors with multiple locks and second doors with multiple locks.

[@patchesm]

My man didn’t even get to finish plugging his website before it opened

[@AndyTheCornbread]

The auto generated captions call him "the walk begin lawyer", I wonder if master lock provides KZbin's captioning service?

[@LoadstoneKnight]

"Now, I do want to check to see if there are any security pins." Hmm, I wonder if there are any security pins. ... "No security pins that I could feel." Of course there aren't.

[@Arctevious6923]

To those saying that the LPL could get into your door just in a few seconds of hearing his intro, you can easily lock anybody out manually by tensioning the other side of the handle while picking/unlocking is happening, this would bind any dead bolt in place until either a sheering force was applied or both handles were once again loose. I've also done this trick to lock people from the opposite side of the door. (Ex: person "A", locked in room "a" by person "B" in room "b". Person a in room A would then tension the handle downward with approximately 15 pounds of force to lock out person B in room b from unlocking the door to room a. effectively trapping person B in room b. while person A is still locked in they can still lock others from coming in on most locks. try it out, it works!)

[@mrcat3493]

As soon as LPL said a novice picker could defeat the lock, I knew the wave rake was soon to appear.

[@davidyoung518]

I'm waiting for the Covert Instruments Doorlock!!!! 😏😏😏

[@elvendragonhammer5433]

The only Fluke here is the laziness in the security that these locks supposedly rely on.

[@franklin.s.werren]

LPL shows the reason bean counters should all be fired!!! I wonder how bad the buttons are on security???😅😅😅😅😅

[@wovenscrolls]

It seems more like the "security" of this lock would be it making thieves laugh themselves into an immobile state by the bad quality of the lock.

[@mascadadelpantion8018]

When the title of the video has smart inquotations, you always have to be a little weary

[@chuckwilkinson]

I would love e to see a video that goes over why the companies cheap out on things like security pins. How much more than regular pins are they? Does it make the assembly of the lock more difficult? Does it have consequences that aren't obvious?

[@andy4an]

i wonder how much cost security pins add to a lock? fractions of a cent?

[@AusNetFan13]

You know, once you see the wave rake, the game just ended. I’ve gotten so used to LockPickingLawyer using the wave rake that I look at his time using milliseconds.

[@spencerp_6067]

Since LPL knows how to pick so many different types of lock mechanisms, I want to see him build his own unpickable lock

[@jafryicus5304]

he could collab with Stuff Made Here again, to create the final version of the unpickable lock. would be sick.

[@spencerp_6067]

@@jafryicus5304 yes totally

[@r0bw00d]

It's always a good video when the wave rake is brought out.

[@mirthenary]

That's it, I'm moving to somewhere where there's no people, like outer Mongolia, where locks are of no concern

[@nomore6167]

No magnet vulnerability? That's actually extremely shocking. Given the absurd lack of security otherwise, you have to wonder if protection from magnets was intentional. I can just imagine the marketing for this company -- "We're Bothstar. Our products are consistently rated 2 out of 10 stars and we earned both of 'em!".

[@dahn57]

By the rest of the lock, it's probably more likely that they cheaped out on a plastic part than intentionally non-magnetic

[@timokkhan9020]

Hello @LockPickingLawyer, I would like to chime in with many others. If it is true that we get a lot of pleasure from watching you opening all those 1500+ locks, I would really like to see more of the locks that passed the LPL test. You presented some locks that are not totally ridiculous, but I haven't seen yet any that you could not open at all. Even better, some kind of a list or score board would be useful. Actually, maybe I will start one: a list of locks with the amount of seconds they resisted to the LPL... See you soon!

[@robertfergusson5367]

$50 dollar lock in 10 seconds. Hope those things come with a free 100k theft insurance policy.

[@akshonclip]

I will never automate anything sentry related in my house.

[@ixythepixy]

On a construction site i worked at we had a container full of equipment locked with some lock and the person in charge had me put a 2 t concrete block with a crane every night after we finished work . I think thats the only thing you would not be able to lock pick.

[@ixythepixy]

Accualy i forgot about your super strength u can prob lift dat sry .

[@RAkers-tu1ey]

Really interesting use of the Lishi tool. I hadn't thought about it that way.

[@EricRacine123]

I have something similar for my bedroom just to keep the kids out. Definitely not something for higher security

[@bikeny]

I sure hope your kids aren't watching these videos.

[@zhengfang3619]

2 second / 30 seconds = 7% actual security rating 80%+ design rating = 80%+ security rating(customer first image)

[@Sylocat]

Speaking as a programmer: any electronic device that describes itself as "smart" is a dumb choice.

[@plaws0]

Once the money people show up, it's all over.

[@airwalwer]

I would love to see you take some of these easy locks and show how, with just a few easy tweaks, make them more secure. Or, show how to replace the core with something off the shelf,that would make,them better.

[@Wagonman5900]

There ain't no security pins in there, you just raked that thing open twice!