[815] Public Storage Upgrades to PacLock Disc Padlock Pro 1000 (Picked!)

[@lanmastersassistant659]

Good upgrade. And glad to see companies reaching out and improving understanding.

[@tomherron4334]

Clearly Paclock appreciates your great videos. Maybe one day someone at Master will too.

[@user54389]

PacLock is great. Always been super supportive of the Locksport community (it doesn't hurt when you have 330k+ subs though :D )

[@gamechaser002]

Don't bet on Master appreciating these guys ripping into their padlocks like the jokes that they are

[@MuToiDMaN]

Master plays a sales numbers game, not a quality game. I'm sure they're perfectly aware of how shitty their locks are.

[@paclockpres.9805]

I'm kind of hoping that MLC won't! Nothing to see here guys at MLC!!!

[@IanBPPK]

Given that Master issued threats to BosnianBill some time ago, I don't see that happening.

[@kosmikme]

Wow a four minute video, it must be a better than average lock!

[@anteshell]

Not necessarily. The locks seem to be brand new. If the tolerances are anything to go by, brand new locks are harder to open even with a designated key. As the lock wears out in usage, it will become easier to open. Propably most of the Lockpicking Lawyer's lock are already used, so naturally most locks are easier to open and thus shorter videos.

[@paclockpres.9805]

I think the comparison being made was to an "old" PS lock that was essentially new. I would suspect that overtime what you say is true, but only by a small amount. Brand new "other" locks have pretty poor tolerances out of the box and that leads to bad pick performance... I'd suspect that over time they would get worse, but they inherently are bad at the start.@@anteshell

[@jttech44]

@@anteshell If you keep your locks well lubricated they will be much, much harder to pick and won't wear out of tolerance appreciably. The usual treatment is some graphite spray lubricant. The fact is, most locks are horribly neglected and do wear out, but that does not have to be the case. If you're renting a storage unit where you cannot provide your own lock, it's wise to clean and lubricate your lock at least yearly to keep it in good working order.

[@anteshell]

@@paclockpres.9805 You might be onto something with your first point on the lock's age. However, you are wrong about the locks wearing out. It actually is pretty fast, but of course depending on how many times you turn your key in the lock. In my house I got Abloy Exec lock which is predecessor of Abloy Protec of which Lockpicking Lawyer said is too much for his skills. In fact Exec is extremely common in where I live, thus I got plenty of experience of it. I know for a fact that brand new lock is wery tight around the key and the mechanism's sharp corners makes the usage hard with a key. Within a few weeks or at least after a month, the sharp corners in the lock and the key will grind down such that the lock becomes very easy to open with a key. However, those locks has very high production values so the tolerances are much tighter than in your average pad lock, so that may also play part in the initial hardness of usage. Of course, pad locks usually wear down their initial thightness slower, than front door locks due to much less usage. To add a bit of a context to my comments: With the initial hardness of usage I mean that the internal parts have sharp corners everywhere. The parts are finished such that there aren't any cutting or molding artifacts left that could deadlock the mechanism, but the corners in those small parts are left as is. The are sharp and tend to tackle to each others especially in high quality locks that has very low tolerances and that makes is harder to use. Especially with a pick, since it might be very hard to distinguish between if the pin is stuck due to actual lock mechanisms or due to the sharp corners getting stuck. Those sharp corners will quickly wear out in micro level and that makes the lock much easier to use with both key and pick. I did not mean the macro lever wearing out which happens in the actual mechanisms loosening up the tolerances. That, of course, is usually very slow as you said.

[@adamnichols476]

@@paclockpres.9805 Great job improving on this though. IMO if it takes LPL more than 30 sec to lock it, it will be above the avg criminals skills. Any lock, cough masterlock cough, that can be raked open is absolute junk.

[@johnpenguin9188]

That’s a night and day difference! 👍🏻

[@johnbouttell5827]

Good work Public Storage, good work PacLock Pro 1000, good work LPL.

[@pete_lind]

is not that part where lock core is in zinc casting ? Bosnianbill melting a ABUS diskus lock kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGLLYqSNl8-anc0

[@Chlorate299]

Paclock is a really cool company, I love how they've reached out to the locksport community as a crowd testing resource and seriously improved their products in a relatively short time.

[@paclockpres.9805]

Thanks!

[@Capt-Intrepid]

Lost my key to this lock at Public Storage. Couldn't rake or pick it open. Thank You for confirming I'm not that inept.

[@Elon425]

much respect for PacLock, they actually listen to end user feedback, which is a lot more than most companies can say these days.

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

This is an excellent reason we need channels like this that show security weaknesses. It's this type of educational material that helps others (private and corporate) to make informed decisions about their security. And in this case, their security IS the foundation of their business model.

[@adamnichols476]

it separates the companies knowing they need outside unbiased experts to trash their bad products, from masterlock.

[@sigor2011]

Good upgrade, 4 seconds to about 45 but this required skills, not just luck. Thanks for the follow up.

[@JasonW.]

LPL proves that some "Made for TV" lock picking scenes are accurate.

[@Cheesus-Sliced]

They just use master locks for those

[@adamnichols476]

@@Cheesus-Sliced Beat me to it by a year lmao.

[@TrackGeeks]

A 4 minute video. Yep That is a more challenging lock.

[@sortofsmarter]

Wow, I think its great when a lock or storage company takes its security seriously and takes the time to show the improvements and it is in fact a "improvement". great job LPL

[@TonySLocks]

This must be an excellent lock. To watch you struggle for a minute on a padlock means that is a lock I want to try !

[@PinkFloydBootlegs]

It's most likely a lock with added secruity. Also known as a fucking scam.

[@adamnichols476]

@@PinkFloydBootlegs ?

[@thejay8963]

Cigar Ok, prove it.

[@curthatt6461]

Anything to last over 15 seconds with him is secure!

[@adamnichols476]

thats what i was thinking. the fact he had to go over it what, 5 or 6 times, says a lot about it. We knew he would eventually get any pin tumbler lock picked. Its just a matter of taking him as long as possible.

[@briansavage932]

I was really pleasantly surprised with this. I love it when LPL gets some fight out of a lock. That means it's better than 90% of other locks. His endorsement carries some weight with us niche pickers ;)

[@Ostsol]

So nice to hear that a lock maker is responding positively to criticism and expending some effort into improving their product!

[@Thezaccazzac]

Always appreciate a company realising their mistake and fixing it. (even if this was just a misunderstanding as to what is currently used) Still, great vid.

[@paclockpres.9805]

Well, technically, the previous lock was not made by us. It was made by a different factory that still makes lots of disc locks for other "manufacturers" out there. We did certainly make lots of improvements and enhanced features on our PRO design!

[@JNaziki]

THANK YOU FOR THIS. I just got into lockpicking and I found this old public storage lock laying around my house. Expected it to open easy and I could not understand why I was having so much trouble with it until I saw this video. Must say, now that I know what I'm dealing with (security pins, false sets, ect) it's been much much easier to deal with and is proving to be a great practice lock actually.

[@johnpenguin9188]

The lack of a huge gaping keyway was the first thing I noticed on the new lock 🤣

[@glasslinger]

I push a short hairpin piece of spring wire up into the keyway on my locks. I have a little hook on my keychain for pulling out the wire when I am ready to open it. If you don't know its there you can't get a pick gun or key into the slot. Most thieves also would not have the very small hook handy to pull out the wire even if they knew it was there. Probably overkill but we did have a bunch of locks opened by someone with a pick gun one time.

[@3obardThawn3]

This explains why I can't open mine. I was able to open the old one, but not the new one. Thanks for the video, it helps alot.

[@yozarian86]

This is one of the most difficult looking locks ever to open. Others took longer, but just because there was more to do. I want this lock on everything I every lock up lol

[@VerySeriousUser]

Public Storage really deserves the praise. Reaching out to you and giving you a new one that has been improved that much was really the best thing they could do.

[@andersjjensen]

Actually it was the other way around. PacLock noticed that LPL was fussing about a lock from the old contractor and said "Nope, Public Storage upgraded to our stuff.. here try it out!". Nice of PacLock to protect their customers reputation like that. Nice of Public Storage to actually give a damn and switch vendor. Nice of LPL to bring it all to our attention.

[@Vinemaple]

That's actually a pretty impressive time for a little padlock!

[@dremwolf5419]

The reply from Paclock Pres. (Greg) was great to see on your previous video.

[@paclockpres.9805]

Much appreciated!

[@nml5536]

kudos to public storage.. smart leadership.

[@ganzonomy]

I'm a huge abus diskus fan, but holy cow... Paclock just turned disc locks on their head. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍. I wound up buying one for my own collection. It's not quite as overbuilt as my 20/80, but a 20/80 is in the vicinity of $50. At that point, cost-awareness is pretty much out the window. Color me impressed. The only thing I would add, Is maybe a paracentric keyway. PS: the lock came spotless. Only my diskus locks came that way. All my other discs, enough oil to lube a car. 👍👍👍👍👍 Great job

[@stuartfox480]

I bought one off these locks. I'm new to lock picking I've opened 3 other locks easily so got this one and ive struggled with it still haven't managed.so by watching you video of it I can see it's a tricky one for me to attempt. I enjoy watching all your lock picking clips .👍

[@aaronjwalkerga]

I worked for PS for many years...a drill bit through the key hole took quick care of a lock!

[@rat4spd]

A drill dit through any of those brass core locks will open it in about 10 seconds.

[@paclockpres.9805]

We debated going with stainless steel pins to make this sort of attack more difficult... but every enhanced/improved feature means more cost to the consumer. In the end, everyone involved felt that all of the features we put in were drastic improvement over any other disc lock out there. But drilling a brass cylinder will get the job done on any padlock!

[@rat4spd]

@@paclockpres.9805 I agree, and you need to have realistic expectations on the lock for its intended usage. We have several hundred of these kind of locks on vendors. The reality is, you don't want to make it impossible to get into some machines because the amount of damage trying to get in outweighs the loss of what's inside.

[@Germankipp]

Omg I have this lock and have been practicing on it for over a week not being able to open it. I started feeling bad about learning picking and now I don't anymore. No wonder a beginner couldn't get anywhere!

[@shill2443]

Why is this so interesting? I can't stop watching these.

[@tigerslashii7097]

Good to see companies taking constructive criticism well.

[@nooddles12]

I haven’t watched all your videos. Out of the 20 that I’ve seen, this is the first positive kudos from you. Love your channel.

[@jbholland1987]

shout out to Public Storage, nice of them ! and they improved alot as you can see.

[@justink2101]

This lock came with my storage unit and it looks like it was worth the 19.99 extra charge.

[@LPCliftonMusic]

Nice to see a company smart enough to make use of free R&D and make improvements where needed. I don’t have any PacLocks but maybe I’ll have to find a few to aggravate me while I continue to learn how to pick.

[@danielroglich3309]

Did a good job on the upgrade,it took considerably longer than the first lock to open. Great picking and love the review!

[@lmars5933]

Thanks for the update..and pak-lock for sending the updated lock.😎

[@atolmasoff]

Well, you just made me decide to pick up a new hobby. Looks like this could be fun! Love tedious little challenges like this!

[@DonzLockz]

Paclock comes to the rescue and thank the lock gods they did! A great upgrade for those types of locks.🍺✌😎🇦🇺

[@w.c.orielly9059]

love your manner... your like the Bob Ross of lock picking... 👍

[@zachlake5897]

Was just gifted a paclock 1000. So far I can't get it open. I'm fairly new to picking but I'm pretty good at getting basic locks open. So ya, the 1000 is a nice lock. Can't wait to get that accomplished feeling when I finally pop it open. Also the round shape is really pushing me to get a vice grip to hold it in place because holding it for long periods is no fun, especially trying to keep the tension right. Anyways, thanks for your videos LPL, they are always amazing and I watch them all the time. You are known by my wife as "that damn lock picking guy" 😂 Much love to you and the community, y'all rock. Have fun and stay legal.

[@jmm1233]

kudos to the lockmakers who take notice and change it

[@tonyholt90]

Nice to see a lock putting up a fight !

[@evanwilliams8087]

I wound up having to cut this lock off. I didn’t realize two versions existed; I saw tons of people saying how easy it was to open, now it makes sense. I am not a great picker but I can rake and SPP easy to medium locks...

[@pantherplatform]

These are the same locks I have on my trailer. They seemed like a good idea at the time. Thanks for showing me how to pick it in case I lose my keys. 👇

[@andrewfowens]

This channel is so wholesome.

[@texpatriot8462]

Public Storage also has lockers that allow you to place two locks on the door. I use an Abus 20 Disc Lock and an Abus Rock with an upgraded core.

[@Matteus733]

It’s hypnotic watching this

[@DAdamTrammell]

Paclock is awesome! Fun picks and a very well run company.

[@goneutt]

Love how we get around to a 30 second pick from a pro being a major improvement. Hopefully the security cameras got a good look at the face of the person who pilfered all the units that night.

[@robbabcock_]

I should pick up one of these PacLock disc padlocks! Thanks for a great video.

[@lwilton]

Considering the small throat design and your typical hasp shackle, you would probably also have to pick this lock upside down if it was really where it belongs. At least for American pickers that might add some extra challenge to the task.

[@Vincent_Beers]

I wish I remembered the brand, but years back I'd rented a storage unit from Uhaul for about a year and they had a similar(looking) lock that was a mandatory purchase to put on your unit, there was room for a second lock of your own, but they would require you used theirs too. Their stupid locks would rust shut and then they would try to charge you a huge fee to cut them off. So they got you coming and going on top of your rental fees. The lock cost like $30 to buy and they wanted $100 to cut it off. I went to home depot instead and bought a $20 bolt cutter, left the tags on it, used it once to pop the lock and returned it for a refund without a scratch. So glad we don't need a storage unit anymore.

[@kenabi]

came across one of these a short while back that i literally had to drill out to remove it from where it was, come to find out it had a fairly decent set of security pins and some cylinder tricks. i was rather surprised.

[@flypimpinogflypimp2126]

This dude is a straight boss

[@roysammons2445]

And for all those people who moan about videos like these, saying they show criminals how to break into buildings 😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝. This shows the positive outcome. Thanks LPL

[@stk8768]

I dont see anyone moaning, who are you talking to?

[@roysammons2445]

@@stk8768 I am referring to previous videos where there are those who stumble across a channel like this and make claims that these type of videos do more harm than good. (Sorry for the confusion)

[@13vatra]

Lol, he's not teaching us lockpicking, he's just doing it in front of us. I don't care how many time you watch this video you're not getting the improved lock open in any form of reasonable time without a lot of practice, and knowledge on what he's actually doing in there.

[@roysammons2445]

@@13vatra He is demonstrating how the company have improved their locks. Not necessarily teaching how to lock pick. Having said that watching his technique and his description does help.

[@13vatra]

@@roysammons2445 exactly. Though I would argue that watching his technique doesn't really help much at all because you can't see or feel what he's actually manipulating.

[@richscott2090]

Looks like a big difference.

[@jamesg1367]

Not so bad indeed. Reminds me that I've encountered few well made locks so far. Need to lay hands on some more of them so I can hone my skills.

[@shoresy6927]

Great work PS for upgrading.

[@frogstair]

Just watching this for the calm voice of LPL!

[@RobinPillage.]

Good to hear👍

[@defconone1498]

Everyone at PackLock held their breath as you entered the rake....

[@andyb9994]

Don't know why but I find your picking fascinating, wish I could do it. 👍

[@hannanO_o]

Great video LPL . Thanks 👌

[@tubbycarpenter9847]

When you switched over to the purple tool it reminded me off a dentist talk to their assistant

[@OneIroNauT_1]

Well I'm glad they reached out to you. But I cant wait for you to show us how ill prepared that lock would be for a destructive attack.

[@victotyorvalhalla]

Eye opening! Thank you!

[@fernando-sl7qm]

Wow they made a huge improvement

[@grizzlytrap2816]

I love how LPL personifies the pins

[@sobertillnoon]

Are you sure the old lock can't be opened by giving it a dirty look?

[@JoeDirtHockey]

Very interesting.

[@emerald7810]

I just got a storage unit at a PS, and they gave me one of these locks, so I went looking for it specifically to see how long it would take for you to pick it. Since it took you a couple of minutes, I think I can rest assured that the average would-be burglar won't be able to get through it before security shows up.

[@bird718]

they sent the lock picking lawyer a challenge lock?

[@insanejughead]

Oh how silly they must've been...

[@John-lx8iu]

I wouldn't call it a challenge lock - just simply a sample to show the improvements which were clearly substantial. PacLock is a very responsive and active company with a close eye on the locksport community. They knew he would have little difficulty picking in but would also give them unbiased credit where due...

[@paclockpres.9805]

Yup, just a couple locks off of our shelf!@@John-lx8iu

[@adamnichols476]

I want to see masterlock get the gonads to do this. Oh wait, they cant make a lock that doesnt easily get raked open by an angry glare and a stiff breeze.

[@crimsonfox87fluxule62]

It actually took you a couple more seconds to open the damn thing, surprised the hell out of me.

[@jeffwatson26]

I have lost my keys and am enjoying watching your highly educational videos, which I appreciate your sharing. My follow-up question is: what specific brand of tools do you recommend buying in order to help unlock a lock like this? I am uncertain which pick lock set is most applicable & helpful for these types of locks.

[@funny-video-YouTube-channel]

Good guy to call, *when you forget the keys* inside the house :-)

[@Cheesus-Sliced]

House, car, bank, w/e 🤔

[@MegaMrdusty]

You should go buy one of there "new" locks and pick that just to make sure they didn't send you a custom hard to pick lock just to make sure they aren't pulling a fast one on you.

[@cryptidairsoft3905]

Recently moved into a new storage unit with this lock, and I’m just not getting into the sport, gonna be interesting to see if I can get it open after a few days of practicing on other locks

[@Sweetonionct]

Novice picker here. Have one of these that I still haven’t picked. Comforting knowing even LPL had a problem with it five years ago.

[@sciencenate]

Rented a spot from public storage today - still shilling the old locks in denver

[@dizzyknutsak9462]

Awesome 😎

[@Malakie]

I no longer buy locks to specifically keep the pull shed, garage or anything else locked. I buy them for one reason... and my reason works.. To delay the thief long enough for either my German Shepherd Combat bite trained k9 to get them, for me to reach them with a Benelli M4 .12 gauge semi auto tactical, or both. I found out the hard way that depending on locks of any kind, is a waste of money if you are relying on them solely to keep someone from stealing your stuff. In the past I lost items to someone, including a sports car, that knew how to do this and pretty damn fast as well. BUT the reason I know my method now works... I have stopped attempts twice now on my property, first to steal one of my vehicles (again) and the second time attempting to cut copper cabling from an irrigation system. Both times, the locks were good enough to delay them for long enough for me and the K9 to get there. In the one case where they attempted to steal my vehicle, it was about 2-3 minutes from the moment my K9 alerted me something was wrong outside to the time I geared up and made contact with the 3 men attempting entry into the main garage. Once I had them all on the ground at gun point and a K9 teeth bared, it took the Sheriff another 15 minutes to even get to our house. Lesson is.. don't rely on any lock to stop a thief. PERIOD. Use a good lock but only to delay them as long as you will need to stop them or get someone there to stop them, if you live someplace that PD can arrive fast enough.

[@paclockpres.9805]

Wow, some serious stories! Totally agree with you... locks should be a visual deterrence to make the would be thieves go somewhere else. But if the thief insists, then hopefully the lock holds up long enough for some sort of response to be made. Definitely appreciate your service and the sacrifices you made to end up with a service related disability. But I must say, Go Army, Beat Navy!

[@Malakie]

Yep.. Just wanted people to know in real life, depending on ANY lock is not a good idea.. Use the best of the best but use them to delay, not stop a thief and you will have less loss over all.

[@DamonJohnCollins]

I appreciate them making improvements, but am skeptical that they sent you representative sample of the lock you would pick up at a Public Storage facility right now. I'll chip in so a random sample can be obtained.

[@paclockpres.9805]

I'd be happy to chip in as well! But like I reply I posted above, no cherry picking here because it doesn't help us. If our products don't measure up, then I'd like to know it so we can improve it! I did ask LPL if he thought he should go down to a local PS store and pick one up, but he asked if we just sent a couple! If you want to run to a PS store and grab one to send to LP then I split the cost with you! My e-mail is on our website! I just don't think it would be a great use of LPL's time since what he got should be representative! Just let me know!

[@160rpm]

nice upgrade

[@Nf6xNet]

Good video, LPL! I’m curious whether it’s significantly harder to pick when it is hanging off of a shackle on a door at a typical height for Public Storage installations, rather than being hand held in a comfortable position.

[@CaptEirikr]

It seems like the question to ask for any lock isn't 'can it be picked', but rather 'how long will it take to pick it'.

[@UliBaier]

Do you have a video or a document where you explain the technical terms (security pins, false set, binding...) you are using in your videos? Picking a transparent lock would be nice.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Uli Baier At some point I’ll come out with a training series. 👍

[@Cheesus-Sliced]

Security pins are just differently shaped. Standard pins are just a cylinder, where common security pins have some manner of cuts in them (spools are like a thread spool, thin middle and wide ends, serrated has several notches alternating between wide and thin). A false set is where the lock is set into a security pins notch instead of the actual split between the drive pin and key pin, causing it to cease instead of unlock. Binding just means exactly that, its binding. When turning the core, it ceases on the pins. From what I know, usually only one or two pins are actually bound (depends on locks tolerances), where the others a free moving. When they are bound, you can feel when either the key/driver split is reached or a notch in a security pin is reached (hence the click, the core turns a little further and another pin is bound). I'm by no means an expert, but thats the jist of it

[@lwilton]

LPL may not have this currently, but you can wander over to Bosnian Bill's KZbin and find videos that explain all this stuff.

[@rualmet]

Sure wish you’d leave the links so we can (have option) purchase these. I’d also like to see you, the master, pick this lock (and others) in their natural habitat!!!

[@paclockpres.9805]

These are at every Public Storage facility... and we (PACLOCK) also sell them (just call or email us)... but you'll get a better price buying it from PS. We value their business very much and don't want to do anything to undercut their business.

[@rualmet]

PACLOCK PRES. I’ll go around and ask at my local PS’s! Thanks for the information!

[@paclockpres.9805]

My pleasure! Let me know if you have any issues... some PS facilities are setup to use only "cylinder locks" (little round cylinder lock) and those facilities to stock the disc locks. We also make the cylinder locks for PS and are quite proud of those as well!!!@@rualmet

[@andrewgibb8846]

Mr. Lock Picking Lawyer, when you’re using top of the keyway tension, how much space do you have to leverage your tensioner? I have a U-HAUL disc lock, and when I try top of the keyway tension I find there’s only about .25” to rest the tensioner on before I contact the first pin. I’m not sure how you’re getting the tension needed to turn the shackle in this case. Any information would be greatly appreciated 🙏 Thank you for sharing your expertise.

[@thumperlockpicking9269]

Great video brother

[@adamnichols476]

Im so glad that everyone but masterlock seems to be improving and taking your criticism the right way. Lets make it harder and harder for scum to steal stuff.

[@chaseporter8816]

I've never really been interested in locks before, but after finding your channel a few months ago i have to say im quite intrigued. I would like to start getting into picking just as a small hobby do you have any videos of how to get started or any recommendations on any starting kits. Thanks, and keep up the great work!

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

There are a few channels that cover that. Bosnian Bill and Dark Arts Lock Picking, for example. LPL does some reviews but he's more of a how-to person.

[@chaseporter8816]

@@two_tier_gary_rumain Thanks, i will check them out!

[@GilbertMartinelli]

I have one of these I used for my first attempts at raking and picking. It seized up exactly the same way and I thought it was because I was depressingly bad at raking. I'm elated to see it's actually because it's a good lock and I shouldn't be able to rake it or pick it yet.

[@danallen266]

Damn, a 4 minute video. PacLock should put that in their promotional ads!

[@17931793248650]

Can you also pick this upside down since that would be how the lock would be hung?

[@Zodliness]

That's a rather disc'apointing padlock!

[@reedjames-fo7zu]

Say amazing absolutely well done videos and displaying your techniques do you have a book or a strategy guide learning 101 picking locks

[@spacemissing]

The place where I store my stuff has individually alarmed units, so even if someone picked a lock, their attempt at theft would be known immediately. The security situation there is Never left unattended.

[@blockbertus]

You couting the pins while picking sounds like a dentist going through and calling the teeth and their damages etc. ;-)