As a straight resistive element in the travel buddy you will find that raising the voltage raises the current draw anyway due to ohms law. So the losses through the converters probably aren’t as bad as indicated here anyway. You could measure the current with a clamp or inline power meter to compare the oven current vs the battery current.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
It's definitely Mr Georg Simon Ohm responsible here!
@Rabs738 ай бұрын
I added a 15v converter to mine today. Oven now too hot to touch after 45 mins. Such an improvement. I found the stock blade fuse on mine was adding too much resistance so changed that out to something better and increased voltage to converter by 0.3v. All adds up
@LockyourHubs4WDing8 ай бұрын
It sure does! It's a shame Midi type fuses don't come in lower amperages suitable for the TB. You'll love the 15v conversion, it really does transform the TB for the better.
@Rabs738 ай бұрын
@LockyourHubs4WDing thanks for the great video even though a few years ago. I'm getting near 180w into mine now. Shame it's over 35 every day so yet to test it properly. I went with a circuit breaker in the end so I could easily disable the converter as required. The blade fuse was clearly a massive resistance point.
@johnnumbat97823 ай бұрын
Thanks Lock - being a retired Avionics technician I will er on the side of caution and potentially ☺️(no pun intended) try the 13.8V regulator only to protect the oven over long term use because I don’t want a raging fire while driving down the highway - I’m at my third stage and three years in to the Hilux/Aluminium canopy/RFT project build with many prototype setups discovering what works and what doesn’t - I’ve gone with a simple 100ah Amptron Lithum battery system incorporating Redarc, Renogy, Engel mane even Kings products because I only run lights, 27 litre fridge and Sureflo water system - my Travel Buddy is on its way so I’ll start with a simple high capacity/fused/relay configuration first an monitor current draw and heat which are the two important elements that can destroy a system and your vehicle.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with a conservative system, while I like fiddling with all the latest tech like induction cooking and air fryers etc, most of the time camping, I run a fridge, lights and usually cook on a fire. While I'm not sponsored (I wish!) I've become a bit of a fan of Victron's gear. The customisation and versatility is unmatched. I'm running a Cerbo GX (their comms hub) on a Raspberry Pi (Venus OS) so can monitor any of the systems parameters anywhere I've got internet. Though, back to the TB, I've been running the 15V stepup for a few years now without issue. Seems to work ok.
@DuncanMargetts4 жыл бұрын
Superb video.. solid technical presentation from someone who clearly has a very firm grasp of the subject matter! I run a cheap Jaycar 12V warmer, only room for a couple of pies and you have to leave it open for the last 20mins of cooking to dry it out a bit.. but does a great job and doesnt take up much room. Those stepup converters are an interesting bit of kit at what looks like a pretty fair price.. thanks for the information and ideas.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
I've tested those as well, for only a couple of pies, they hold up well in comparison!
@steveobrien73954 жыл бұрын
Bloody awesome video guys! Gotta love your tips, especially when the proof is provided, not just opinions like many other channels.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, yep opinions are like belly buttons, everyone's got one! The truth is in the testing data.
@kafferhond4352 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos on the DC systems. Good, comparable, repeatable results. Great stuff!
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@imdoinit4theladies2 жыл бұрын
awesome job mate, made it so easy to understand where you were going with it but i was so interested in the info. keep them coming.
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback!
@zanegleeson79222 жыл бұрын
Love the idea, will probably do this even though I Run a lithium atm.. Just want to make a note, that the factory wiring that come with it most likely could do with an upgrade.. Especially as it has a 1tamp blade fuse and most likely 15amp rated wire... I'd definitely be putting 12g (25amp) cable on and a 20 amp fuse
@LockyourHubs4WDing8 ай бұрын
That's a great suggestion.
@marzy24234 жыл бұрын
Really great video, but yes it was drawing more amps from the battery at 15v but it was actually pulling more watts through the oven. So the first test doesn't really show the efficency all that well. What you needed to do was test the current on the other side to view in and out. But final test showed the end result anyways.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the efficiency of the step up itself is all that important other than academic intrigue, what is important is how much battery capacity you use in comparison with the other options.
@Michael_Mears2 жыл бұрын
I did some testing today on my new Rough Country travel oven. I found the element was about 1.6ohms using a four-wire resistance test (no wire leads or fuse included), and using the figures from the 60V/100A power meter is was about 1.7ohms (including wiring, fuse and the power meter itself). I ran with a 135Ah battery only, which dropped to around 12.05V with a current of 7.2A and power of 86W. I then added a 4A battery charger where the battery settled under load to 13.98V with a current of 8.1A and power of 113W. Lastly, I put two small motorcycle AGMs in series and it was running about 22.3V under load with a current of 12.8A and power of 285W(!). I cooked a couple of pies that way. I thought it might go "pop" and let the smoke out, but it went fine...for now. Cabling was a little warm ;-) This was done on a concrete floor, not in-vehicle. I'm not staying with such a high voltage. It was just for fun. Generally, anyone wanting to work out the current draw in this type of oven can use 1.7ohms as a starting point. Divide your chosen voltage by 1.7 and you have your current in amps, which is the output side of the step-up converter. The current going into it will be higher, though these boost converters usually have a larger wire size on the input side to allow for this. The limiting factor, apart from the element, will be the 15A fuse and the wiring, which I'm leaving alone. My stove is rated 100W, while I see Kick-Ass specs say 130W max. I'm guessing there's not much variation between all these brands, but you never know. I'll be getting one of these step-up converters, that's for sure. Thanks for the great video. Well presented data and charts. It's good to see. New subscriber.
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
Some great info, and 22.3V! Wow, I thought I was keen with 15v!
@4west74 жыл бұрын
Another top bloody notch video guys 👍 Well done! Rito, enough of pumping up your tyres..... I've got to get on Ebay 😂
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, you had better "tread" carefully with comments like that, my ego might get "over-inflated"! Ok I'll stop there.....
@nicolesymons8260 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Very informative. One question though…what step up converters are you using?
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
15v!
@MiniLuv-19844 жыл бұрын
Nice! Good info and great explanation/demonstration and results. Thanks again.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it!
@puzzlecraft8018 ай бұрын
I have a kings travel oven and i put 2x frozen saussage rolls in and from cold start it was done in 50 min no pre heat .
@LockyourHubs4WDing8 ай бұрын
That's impressive!
@DENMONKEY4 жыл бұрын
The 13.8 makes sense, as said being a charge voltage which is way you use them when driving or hooked up to a battery taking a solar charge. They can be used off stand alone battery but it's not an ideal situation. On a sla performance is only going to get worse as the voltage drops. Interesting to see results long term. I can imagine it impacting on the oven much at all. If any wiring couldn't handle that small increases, I'd be a bit disappointed. If be interested in that Guage of the nichrome heating element and if you could wind another to improve performance. Likely not worth the effort though.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
I don't think a modified element would be worth the effort, a second element though.... Just need to convince TB to sell me one! (They wouldn't sell me one....)
@DENMONKEY4 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing you can buy nichrome heating wire for vaping . it comes in different gauges and there for different resistance/foot or length. i reckon with a bit of fiddling and measuring, you could set up a parallel heating element to run with the original. one on top would be nice..ooooh and a fan. anyway, my roadchef is on it's way thanks to your vids. I like aussie built and try and promote aussie stuff on my channel but there was too much going for the road chef to make me buy the buddy. i would have happily paid the premium to buy aussie if it was an equal or better product. oh well. cheers for the vids. I like your more technical approach to the items. nothing shits me more than an unboxing video with info I could have read on a website. PS I'll give you a shout on my channel when I get around to doing my review on it.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
@@DENMONKEY My ideal TB would have a digital thermostat/timer, insulated door with overcentre latch, 13.8v step up that cuts in and out with the charging voltage, and your idea of a fan is great, there is a large temp differential when running both stainless steel trays in the oven. And don't forget the second element! I've just seen your channel and subbed, thanks in advance for the shoutout!
@DENMONKEY4 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing cheers. I also checked out your winch ring vid. that was interesting to say the least. I hadn't checked them out first hand but I thought they had a bearing inside them. I imagine the pressure on them would make that not possible. Im wondering if the heat generated from that additional friction has any long term impacts on the rope.
@jerrymyahzcat Жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing yeah that’s the new KickAss glass door oven you want. Has a digital temperature gauge and an oven light.
@outdooraussie63554 жыл бұрын
Great video. Was keen to find a solution using the Buddy when not driving and when sun wasn’t optimal for solar... now I’ve got one thanks to you... Cheers 🍻
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@thehulk7360 Жыл бұрын
which one did you get?
@adrianbettio66492 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I have one question. Can the step up converter be left permanently connected while driving as well? Cheers
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
If the voltage input range is wide enough, no problems. Though keep in mind, these step ups have a little current draw even when not actively powering the oven.
@adrianbettio66492 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing thanks heaps for the prompt reply. Love your videos
@87Rorie4 жыл бұрын
Great video and loads of good tech data! My alternator runs at 14.4v so 15v should be fine, but curious if the ovens have a voltage limit before things break? What stopping you using a 24v step up?!
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
You'll eventually find the limit of a component or two, or maybe the wiring.
@TheAussieRepairGuy Жыл бұрын
They are purely a resistive load - A length of nichrome resistance wire, more or less. Not a lot to go wrong, and makes them fairly tolerant to different voltages, but I wouldn't push them much further than 15v I use a 24v version, and it's a bit slow dead on 24v, but nice when the sun is out and I'm at 27v, 28.5 on the road and it's beautiful.
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
Yep the 24v unit runs great! There's an episode on the channel comparing the two.
@TheAussieRepairGuy Жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing I'll look that up, I'll have a couple of videos of my own coming out soon. I have a 6x6 ex military land rover.
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
@@TheAussieRepairGuy Nice, the 6x6 Perentie with its turbo Isuzu engine is a great thing! I look forward to checking out the videos.
@TheAussieRepairGuy Жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing I have a 4x4 gs as well. I'll let you know when they go public
@chrisharding795 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate great video ! Could you tell me what size wire is used on the step up converters you are using ? I brought one off eBay for my travel buddy last week witch looks identical to the Amazon ones you are using but the cable is only 1.5mm 10 amp witch I’m not real keen on trying but seems a lot of people use these same ones so just wanted your feedback! Thanks Chris
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
I was just using Anderson plugs for the testing, though for the actual installation, it's going to depend on the length of the run of wire. Let me know how long your wire run is back to the battery or distribution point and I'll tell you the right sized wire.
@chrisharding795 Жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing thanks for the reply mate ! What size cable is coming out of your step up converter is what I was after ? Cheers Chris
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
@@chrisharding795 Oh ok, sorry I misunderstood. With the 15v Step up, taking into consideration the power usage (13.6A@12.6V) and the length of the run (0.3m) that works out to be 18awg or 0.823mm^2 wire minimum to not loose more than 3% in voltage drop. Though there are connection resistance losses as well. Best thing to do is run it for a while. If it's getting hot from the electrical energy passing though it, time to upgrade! Though I say it should be fine.
@TheTorkerman3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Bloody great video, thanks so much, so in theory this data would replicate for a 12v Fridge running from a similar set up???
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
I tried it with an Engel 75 Combi, we got better performance, but used more battery capacity.
@TheTorkerman3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply 👍🏼👍🏼
@VL30LT4 жыл бұрын
Great videos you do. Very informative and helpful. If these step up/down convertors are 12v input, 13.8v(or 15v) output, how do they handle it when the car is running and the input voltage could jump up to 14.5v? Can they handle that?
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a different model 13.8V model that handles a much wider input voltage range, like the one that Somerville Metal Works sells. Though not for the 15V version. Though with a little extra wiring you can automate it switching in and out kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYWZiH2EhbOFqcU
@tac853 жыл бұрын
Interested to see the results with 12v fridges as well my trailblazer fridge is 12v to 24v
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
Here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2rbm4yBqJZ-rpY
@davidprice78232 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, great video I got a step-up converter and works great on my AGM battery, but I have just upgraded to lithium 150ah would there be any benefits using it on a lithium ?. Would it work the same ? Cheers
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
Still works just as well.
@pandkgraham3 жыл бұрын
I have a question...what would be the results if you used a 12v dc dc charger and attached Anderson connectors to the input and output sides of the charger..then put it between the battery and the travel buddy..the reason I say this..is that I have swapped out a 12v dcdc charger..so I have one lying around gathering dust.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
Depended on the output voltage of the dcdc I suppose.
@wewentthatawayadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, brilliant stuff.
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Lsjeffery972 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the step up converters? Was it just eBay?
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
Yep, eBay special!
@symonjames2657 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, great info,cheers
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Dogrockdog Жыл бұрын
I only cook when driving. So are these useful when driving?
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely especially the 15V version.
@Dogrockdog Жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing thanks mate. I thought maybe it was only useful when stationary to get up to driving amps .
@phillroo7871 Жыл бұрын
G'day, I know this is an old vid but hoping you maybe able to still answer a question. Is there any recomendations on where the Stepup converter (15V) should be in relation to the travel buddy "Distance from travel buddy to Step Up Converter)? or doesnt it matter? Ill be putting in a switch at the dash area but travel buddy is in the back of the wagon. I was thinking of hiding the converter for clean wiring. Enjoy ya vids. Thanks.
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
G'day Phil, just like a DCDC battery charger, you're off placing the DCDC step up as close to the Travel Buddy as possible.
@phillroo7871 Жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing Thanks mate really do appreciate you getting back to me on this even though its an older vid. BUT if I may ask 1 more question, as I am now in the middle of doing some re wiring in my wagon. Basically, I have now a 100ah Lithium in the back just over the top of the travel buddy just so you know. I purchased the 15v Step up, but as you said in your vid, "you cannot speak to the long term durability on the 15v " but hoping by now maybe you have better insight? Vids on the outcome after a fair while can be so informative. Cheers mate and again thanks heaps.
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
@@phillroo7871 G'day Phil, my 15v step up is still running my travel buddy no worries. I've not heard of the 15v step up causing issues for anyone else either. Cheers Simon.
@scottlinn29794 ай бұрын
I just brought kickass new oven with digital temperture gauge and have two heating elements. 12v 260w ... watching your video 15v 15A ... i look up for converter step up .. just wondering if i can use 12v to 24v 20Amp .... ... but 260w / 12v mean 21.6A !!! Not sure what i can do ....get 30A if have or not thanks
@JafffaAdventures4 жыл бұрын
This was a sensational video mate, well done to you. I was screaming at the screen “what amount amp/hrs” when you were showing the heat up times, but true to form you covered that off in the end. I’m sold, just bought one! Again, thanks from Jafffa Adventures for educating me.👍
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
I thought there might have been a penalty to pay, but for pre-heat, it doesn't look like there is. Though for actually cooking... How long is a peice of string? Thanks for the kind words mate!
@JafffaAdventures4 жыл бұрын
Lock your Hubs 4WDing I run a 120 a/hr lithium battery and as you noted it holds 13.8 volts right down to its 20 percent cutout limit. I would love to see you repeat these tests in this video on a lithium battery. Your results might show me I just wasted 20 bucks 😂😂. Thanks again.
@holgermuller29874 жыл бұрын
@ Jafffa Adventures did you charge your power tool battery in the car ? What you use for it the get the 18v battery charged
@GPatrolUte2 жыл бұрын
Gaday mate, I have a late model Patrol with a so called smart alternator. I’m assuming that using the step up converter whilst driving, will still be beneficial even though the alternator kicks back to 12.?V about 2 minutes after you start the car?
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
Sure will!
@GPatrolUte2 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing thank you. Can you tell me, for a quick safe initial setup, could I fix the step up converter in line to the back of the oven with Ceramic 10mm screw spacers for ventilation, 15amp in line fuse then battery supply?
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
@@GPatrolUte Solid state electronics don't enjoy heat, while the ceramic insulators will help, a sheet metal spacer with an air gap each side will be much better.
@GPatrolUte2 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing Cheers and many thanks👊
@theraque13 жыл бұрын
Hi can you please do a temp comparison between the 12v and 24v Travel Buddy? I would also be keen to see the Amp draw between each and how much Amp Hours over time for the same cook and how long each took. I'm looking to use a 12v to 24v converter for this and would be interested to also know how much extra Ah that adds to the battery consumption instead of a direct 24v source.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
I was just chatting about that last night, I think I might in the near future.
@theraque13 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing I am concerned also about the under side of the oven getting hotter and so I thought another way of increasing internal oven temperature and lowering external temperature would be to use a heat shield. I found this one that seems perfect for the job reducing heat by up to 90% making a 50C external temp just 5C. If I pull the trigger for the 24v oven, I'll try this as I have a fridge that will be just 2.5cm below the oven. www.mishimoto.com.au/aluminium-silica-heat-barrier.html
@muzzaball3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, well researched and tested - thank you. Hey you could have your questions regarding longevity answered by asking Aussie Dave Jones from EEV Blog - he'd love to sort you out I reckon. Shoot him a mail or send him the link to one or more of your clips as his motto is "don't turn it on - take it apart" and he's a Guru & Aussie. Cheers mate.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I like he's motto!
@michaelatkin25622 жыл бұрын
Love it. Great stuff. Off to ebay now!
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@pscape3 жыл бұрын
So can you run the oven for 2 hours without damaging the battery with engine off ? 105 amp battery. Is it bad for the battery to drop to 10.5 v ?
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the battery chemistry. Lithium no worries, AGM should be fine if you start with a fully charged battery.
@batlowboymelb35953 жыл бұрын
Just the information I was looking for, thank you, can you let me know where you got the 15 volt step up converter from? I've had a look around and, and can find 12v to 15v, with a max output of 15 amps, do you think that should be fine considering you hit around 13.6 amps draw, or should I look for 20 amps max?
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
The part number I used is in the description.
@chrisharris40472 жыл бұрын
excellent stuff mate - thanks
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@nicporter13234 жыл бұрын
Do you think these step up converters are sealed good enough to be mounted on the back of a tool box in the weather? I have wanted one and this great review has sold me on one. I have always held off due to mounting positions.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
They're advertised as waterproof, so as long as the connectors are weather sealed, I think you should be fine.
@nicporter13234 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing yeah nice. Cheers. Best be hitting ebay! Will be between toolbox and ute cab. So not in straight view of weather.
@billroach23934 жыл бұрын
My Chevy Silverado is fitted with three Fyrlyt Nemesis (250 watts each) driving lights. Fyrlyts are made in South Australia and the nemesis model is a 24volt halogen globe and is supplied with a 12v > 24v step-up converter...look the same as the ones in this video, but with higher output. They are designed for all weather use; mine are mounted on/under the bullbar. No worries...
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
@@billroach2393 Great thanks, good to know that not only are they advertised as weather proof, they actually are!
@jerrymyahzcat Жыл бұрын
Will a step up converter void the oven warranty?
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
You would have to refer to the individual manufacturers. I know for instance the Big Bertha specifically prohibits the use of step ups. Then in the next breathe specifies a maximum input voltage of 15v......
@Luke-pn4ub8 ай бұрын
G'day, Can I leave a 13.8v regulator in when alternator charging or with solar input? Run an old school isolator and a separate renogy rover mppt for solar.
@LockyourHubs4WDing8 ай бұрын
Check the input voltage range, but most you can.
@Luke-pn4ub8 ай бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing I have run it hooked in with solar going for a few hours twice. Never saw a problem, thought I'd ask for some expert advice to be safe. Thanks for ya reply. All the best, Luke.
@sheldonpopesp4 жыл бұрын
I got the 13.8 since it's the same as my alternator but I wish I got the 15v now!
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
It certainty adds performance!
@maggot34314 ай бұрын
I’ve just purchased the 15v converter, what’s the go with fuses, do you install 1 on the input and out put sides? I already have 1 on the travel buddy wiring so was thinking on the out put side would be over kill?
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 ай бұрын
I would place a fuse on the input and output as close to the supply of power as possible.
@timbishop13114 жыл бұрын
Could a similar test be done for operating off 240v to 12volt convertors? Difference between a 13amp compared to a 15amp unit. I noticed a lot people are using different amp converters.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
If the 240v converter can supply enough amperage to the oven, it doesn't really matter if it's 13amp, 15amp or 25amp. There should be no difference in performance. The oven will only draw as much amperage as it needs.
@timbishop13114 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing Thanks for the quick response! Love your video's.
@ausguy4385 Жыл бұрын
Got myself a SMW set-up converter... my question is fuses... One before that 15amp? Any after the set-up for safety of over?
@LockyourHubs4WDing Жыл бұрын
I would place a fuse close to the power source (battery I assume) and another after the output of the stepup.
@jackdunn16873 жыл бұрын
Is the most basic way to use the step up converter , plug it in with Anderson when you need it and then unplug it when you are driving ? I’m not an auto electrician so don’t want to do anything to difficult in terms of wiring..
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
The units I tested aren't suitable because of their limited input range for driving. Though I notice Sommervile Metal Works sell on that you wouldn't need to disconnect.
@jamespartell57813 жыл бұрын
can confirm, the 15v reg (even though it says max input 13 volts or whatever it is) still works and is without damage running while a dc to dc charger is charging as well (at 14.6 volts)
@jackdunn16873 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing but if I disconnect when I drive and then connect when I pull up to camp or whatever, that is fine ?
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
@@jackdunn1687 yep, that'll work fine.
@masonnagle3 жыл бұрын
Great video Simon! Can anyone share a link to either a 13.8 or 15.0V step-up converter. I'm having trouble finding one with the model numbers provided in the description.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
Here's a link to a 15v stepup that won't require any addtional wiring when the car is operating. www.ebay.com.au/itm/12V-to-19V-15A-285W-DC-DC-Boost-Step-Up-Power-Converter-Voltage-Regulator-SL-/313339939355?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
@masonnagle3 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing Thx Simon, but the link seems to be for a 12v-19v step-up.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
@@masonnagle apologies, I just searched through my ebay purchases, this is the wide input step up/down I purchased. www.ebay.com.au/itm/WaterProof-DC-DC-12V-to-15V-20A-300W-STEP-UP-Power-Converter-Regulator-XL-/293739824378?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
@masonnagle3 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing Champion! Thanks for going to the trouble.
@SalvoDan7 ай бұрын
FYI, 170W @36minutes is 102.6Wh 145W @48minutes is 116Wh 120W @80minutes is 160 Wh. Even though the step up converters are not 100% efficient and do loose power to heat, the oven is also not 100% efficient and also looses heat over time.
@LockyourHubs4WDing7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarification.
@akira59822 жыл бұрын
Gonna weld my travel buddy to my turbo manifold 😅 & let the boost cook my pie
@LockyourHubs4WDing2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@ausguy43854 жыл бұрын
So what happens when you set it up and car is still running? Does it max out at the 15v or boost past that?
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Various step ups have different voltage limitation. I know there is a 13.8V step up avaliable through Somerville Metal Works that has a wide enough input voltage range to just connect it up and not really worry about it. Though for the 15V, I've only seen them with a 11-13V input. You can either manually switch it in and out, or automate the process with relays. I did a video with a few wiring diagrams you can download and print out if you're interested.
@DIY12-24v4 жыл бұрын
Is there anything different been 12v and 24v travel buddy other then volts
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
As far as I know it's just the operating voltage.
@stephenashe21603 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Very helpful.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@jarethclark24703 жыл бұрын
Nice video, very informative.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@paulshain3624 жыл бұрын
Well done mate. Great reviews
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@Eddie_Turbo4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video as always! Have you tried leaving this plugged in while driving? I wonder what happens when the input voltage is say 13.6.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
I haven't, at the moment, I just swap around the plugs, though will automate it soon.
@kontiii4 жыл бұрын
Have you tested this out yet ?
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
@@kontiii I did one better, I did a video on how to wire up step-up convertors with a switch, relay or a fully automated solution depending on your needs and still staying in the specified voltage range. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYWZiH2EhbOFqcU
@kontiii4 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing legend
@rawiridixon44304 жыл бұрын
Does the stepups work with the opposite? Which is a fridge
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
That's a great question, I'm not sure, but I'll look into it.
@rawiridixon44304 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing thanks
@markp46684 жыл бұрын
Has anyone checked the output of these when the alternator is pumping in the juice? Would be very interested to know what they do when the system is running at full charge of around 14.5v. Thanks for the great content and thanks for any further info.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
If you check out the travel buddy FB group, I've uploaded a wiring diagram that uses a switch to bypass the step up when the car is running, you could easily enough automate it with a relay and a trigger from the "on " position on the ignition.
@blink18219869 ай бұрын
1x 13.8 left in stock as of 4th January 2024
@michaelhermans47534 жыл бұрын
I prefer mrs macs Great product review without the hype
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but I have to disagree about Mrs Mac vs Four'N Twenty! :)
@stephenashe21603 жыл бұрын
Mrs macs defo better lol
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenashe2160 Noooo!!!!!! :)
@michaelhermans47533 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing just curious who ate all those test pies?
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhermans4753 You don't make friends with salad!
@lachlanshanemcdonald4 жыл бұрын
What does the performance look like with a 24V step up?
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Smoken! :)
@eds4wdcamping4 жыл бұрын
Well done on this video top demo 8)
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@trentwilliams11763 жыл бұрын
Just hooked my 80w solar panel it was running at 6a and 83w in the sun. By rights would that be enough to not 100% offset the power draw but sort of help keep some juice in the battery so I am able to run my oven with the vehicle off? I wanna cook dinner without pissin me mates off by runnin a 3 inch straight pipe diesel for 2 hours
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
That would partially replace the juice the TB was drawing from the battery. If you leave the solar out for longer than you're cooking, you could fully recharge the battery.
@trentwilliams11763 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing bloody legend mate. I'm buying the step up converter aswell. Gettin the road chef for me 30th in a week. Parmas are my first cook!
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
@@trentwilliams1176 nice, a parma is my favorite pub grub!
@bradsadventures45584 жыл бұрын
Hi. Just a thought. Is there any reason why you cannot run these units direct from the alternator?
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Via the battery? The limit in the specs is 13v input, and many cars charge at a higher voltage than that. There are some step ups avaliable with a much wider input voltage range, though they're 3 times the price. Keep an eye out though, as the next video is all about fixing the input voltage limitations.
@pauladams11564 жыл бұрын
Great video... do you have a link to the actual unit (15v please) that you used in this test... I want to get one.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
The model number is in the description, just search for it on ebay.
@pauladams11564 жыл бұрын
Lock your Hubs 4WDing wow, so the 13.8 one actually uses a fair bit more power. That’s a surprise....last question, did you personally experience any issues when testing either of them?
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
None, I did mount them remotely to keep the heat away, both both are still running strong!
@pauladams11564 жыл бұрын
Lock your Hubs 4WDing BEAUTIFUL! I’ve just ordered a 15v one... if you want to possibly fan force one with no extra power...look at a 55w peltier module thermopasted to the front door & wired directly to a 5v electric motor on front door also, with shaft through the door & a metal RV boat prop on the inside.👌🏻 will work as long as the door has heat, closed circuit.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
@@pauladams1156 I would like to add a second element firstly, though fan forced would definetly help, especially with stainless trays.
@nicklarkin6004 жыл бұрын
Nice video mate do you think it would work the same with 12v fridge like a 80lt waeco
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
It's not something I've tested, though might some day.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
I meant to say thanks for the idea, it turns out they do, for my Engel anyway. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2rbm4yBqJZ-rpY
@Jasjosh114 жыл бұрын
is the correct model for the 13.8 unit XW-12-13.8-248W (12v-13.8v18A) ? I am not super with my 12 V just want to make sure i get the correct one? Thanks
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
It's the XW-12-13.8-248W That looks like the right one.
@joshuamcgrath27123 жыл бұрын
So are the 13.8 v at 10amp is it
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
The step up specs?
@Jasjosh114 жыл бұрын
Would a link to the E bay item be possible, i cant seem to find it? Love the vids!!!
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
This is similar to the one I bought 13.8v 248W www.ebay.com.au/itm/DC-to-DC-Step-Up-Booster-Waterproof-Car-Power-Supply-Converter-Regulator-Module-/331984319451?nav=SEARCH
@noelscammell6624 жыл бұрын
Lock your Hubs 4WDing Would have loved a close up of the step up converters in your video Showing the serial numbers or model number you used, making sure i bought the right one. The 15vlt one is what im at thinking with my travel buddy. But the ebay link shows 23pictures Either Xw - 12 - 15 - 120w ( 15V8A ) Or Xw - 12 - 15 - 75w ( 15V5A ) Im a welder by trade Which one is the more grunt ? At a wild guess 120w option ???? ( Being 8amps ) Compared to the 75w 5amps ???? Cracking video!!! And definitely buying a step up converter to help my marine travel buddy Thanks for a great video Look forward to your help
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
The 15V model is the XW-12-15-225W . Hope this helps.
@noelscammell6624 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com.au/itm/DC12V-9V-13V-15V-225W-DC-Step-Up-Converter-Boost-Power-Module-Waterproof-/141852378234?nordt=true For sale and available right now
@cameranmanner47013 жыл бұрын
12v devices have good voltage tolerance. I can't imagine the oven will be damaged.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
Mine's still happily running on 15v happily so far.
@cameranmanner47013 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing i thought so. There arent any electronics inside.
@LockyourHubs4WDing3 жыл бұрын
@@cameranmanner4701 nope, just a timer, thermostat and an element basically.
@bobaitken90064 жыл бұрын
Well presented
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@brockstravels75864 жыл бұрын
The 13.8 V reg, will be the same as driving, as the car system is a nominal 13.8 to 14.2 volts while driving..
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you might only get a marginal improvement if your charging system is closer to 14.2V.
@lastknownlocation87604 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you Just to be pedantic, the saying is not. “The proof is in the pudding.” It is “the proof of the pudding is in the eating”
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@theraque13 жыл бұрын
Actually it's either. In the USA it's "the proof is in the pudding ". In UK it's the latter. In Aus, it's either.
@choppersean14 жыл бұрын
Where can i get the 13.8v one please
@MiniLuv-19844 жыл бұрын
he said "eBay" in the first part of the video.
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
Yep flea-bay is the answer!
@choppersean14 жыл бұрын
@@LockyourHubs4WDing the 13.8 have different amp ratings does it matter which one i go for
@LockyourHubs4WDing4 жыл бұрын
The 13.8V unit I used was an 18A unit, that seemed to work fine.
@greggilmour34824 жыл бұрын
The oven resistance is fixed. Power P is Voltage V squared over Resistance R So increasing V increases P. Current is V/R. So increasing V increases current. Good video.
@ethicalfarmer74244 жыл бұрын
LOL any excuse to break out the Four & Twenties :)