Top 10 Broken RPG Party Members

[@locloudanerpg]

I thought I had made this clear in the video but Fie’s placement is based off of Cold Steel 1 & 2. I’m seeing a-lot of comments mentioning characters from the later titles.

[@まっち-s4m]

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[@whimsicalchronicles8798]

kinda surprised you didn't include laura considering if you build her correctly her S craft is not only a screen wipe but is also capable of one shotting ANY BOSS IN THE GAME

[@GlacierFox523]

best girl

[@squishysnowball]

pretty sure emma can 1 shot the final boss in the second game too

[@SantosOverlord]

cs3/4 reverie Fie is stupid broken

[@Chelaxim]

Cream The Rabbit in Sonic Chronicles The Dark Brotherhood. Her refresh ability restores the whole parties MP including Cream herself and you can upgrade skills level 3 refresh costs 8 MP to cast but restores 15. Funny enough she's completely busted in Sonic Advance 2,she a part of the easy mode in Sonic Heroes,she's top tier in Sonic Battle and even after nerfing her in Sonic Advance 3 the best duo in the game is Knuckles and Cream with Sonic and Cream in second place. And she don't need no chaos emeralds.

[@locloudanerpg]

I have to do a dark chronicles tier list!

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

Cream is absurdly strong in almost every game appearance.... only exception is maybe sonic heroes, but her solo attack of sending cheese after enemies basically oneshots almost every non-boss enemy in the game

[@nightwish1453]

@@locloudanerpg chronicles is very simple on who is better than others. cream and omega are the optional choices but they are better than half of the cast you get in the story. Tails while kind of weak and a worse cream you are kind of forced to use him in some segments in the game can't say the same for rouge or big where it's clear what their job roles are that being thief and tank but they do not work in this game

[@REALmikegordan]

@@locloudanerpg The Advance games and Dark Brotherhood are the origin of the gaming term, "cheesing." Similar to how the term, metagame is derived from Meta Knight in Smash Bros. Brawl.

[@locloudanerpg]

@@REALmikegordan Really? I had no idea that's where that came from!

[@zenglaf]

The fun part with Rita is the casting itself. She always do a speach before cast, but when you activate de special, she just change all the speach for a "blablabla" before the cast.

[@mistersomaru]

That always made me chuckle.

[@FuriousMaximum]

Decent list, but I think Orlandu should have been top spot; for all the reasons you mentioned and, no setup is needed. He is game-breakingly lethal right out of the box!

[@TheOneTwoThree]

Good list. T.G. Cid literally joins your party and wipes the end of the game. You dont need to change his equips, moves etc. He's just that good.

[@marcosdheleno]

exactly why i belive he should've been n1. every single other character in this list need some setup, you need to build them right. if you dont change anything in orlandu's class or equipment, he will still delete the entire game. and then you can do make him stronger.

[@Trasgobardo]

Yeah That's what I call that "Gameplay and Story Integration" As quoted from Tvtropes: "Orlandeau, who is described in the backstory as jaw-droppingly powerful and skilled enough to defeat entire armies... and, well, when you get him on your side, he is-and unlike the other characters who join your party at a set level, he is always at the party level the game uses to calculate random encounters (so if your 4 + Ramza is maxed out at 99...)

[@SageofStars]

Bleu from Breath of Fire II. She's the secret character, the returning one from the first game, and she is absolutely broken. Her special move, which is mostly just a gimmick in the case of the others, is a full heal that SLIGHTLY drops her defense for a turn, that you can use every turn. And she has a stat growth that will max her stats completely by the end even if you don't abuse stat up items.

[@Sayrden]

Don't forget that since Bleu doesn't use Shaman Fusion, you'll also have a lot of combinations available for your other two non-Ryu party members.

[@FuriousMaximum]

Finally someone recognizes Breath of Fire 2.

[@dragames]

@@Sayrden the problem with shaman combos was the illusion of choice. There really wasn't.

[@kingdomhearts9714]

You could add in your criteria the sooner they became broken and the more content there are in the game, the higher the character is on this list. For exemple, if a character is broken very late in the game and there is only the final boss to fight, well it's not really worth it.

[@locloudanerpg]

I like that idea

[@kingdomhearts9714]

The same thing can be apply for the worst. @@locloudanerpg

[@zengram]

It's like getting the most powerful weapon before the final dungeon

[@abrahamwijaya6631]

I like the idea fie broke but the reason she broke wasn't because she is evasive tank but her range to counter is wide mid meaning no matter how far the enemies normally attack do to her, she will counter them back!! Since in trails, building evasion tank is already a method since crossbell duology😂

[@uroy8371]

Since most jrpgs have secret bosses, there is no point in where you get them. It could be bad for the game if they were given too early.

[@jesserivera2043]

One key element to Fie's evasion that sets her apart from others is that she can counter regardless of range. She is the only one who can counter evaded gunfire or long range attacks regardless of where she is on the field. You can do that similar setup with Crow, but there's definitely a reason you've picked her. Rean would avoid it but wouldn't encounter, and it won't occur until cold steel 3 and 4, but in the first two entries Elliot and Emma wouldn't be able to evade everything

[@tecanec9729]

I think Sara has a ranged counter, too.

[@gsenjou9182]

@@tecanec9729 She does. Imo, she's also straight up better than Fie for the simple fact that her Lightning Charge grants her a massive STR/SPD buff AND Insight in a single skill.

[@zennvirus7980]

What I love about the post-Cold Steel Trails is that the EVA Tanks became something like the norm (I haven't played the last two, Kuro no Kiseki 1 and 2, so I don't know if you can still EVA your way to victory). But the broken fun in those games only starts with the EVA Tanks. There's ATS cannons, Craft Machines, Bait Tanks, Assists, Orders, Debuffers, True Domination-Rean (because of the name of the quartz you use), and so on. The key to completely break the game is to mix the EVA Tanks with the others, then you are essentially untouchable, and can blow holes into the opposition with impunity, and without ever being targeted or allowing the enemy room to even sneeze. Hell, make your EVA Tanks also Bait Tanks with the Aegis MQ, and just watch as the enemy tries to kill an unouchable counter machine while everybody else nukes them. Reverie is especially broken in this area, what with the sheer amount of playable characters and quartz, master or otherwise. You can imitate some of these broken things in the pre-Cold Steel games (the Sky trilogy and Zero and Azure), but it's only from CS 1 that the devs made them a "let's break the game" competition. In Sky you had Joshua, Agate, Kevin, Kloe, Renne and Richard (in Sky 3rd), and in Zero and Azure each SSS member is pretty much breakable with the right MQ/Quartz/Equip combo.

[@vittoriopugliese3352]

You can make Aaron Wei a good evasion tank. I did

[@siphons5737]

Honestly, in CS3, 4 and reverie, EVA tanks aren't the most broken things, you can just use orders to get infinite turn with character that easily unbalance the enemies or character that directly give order point (looking at you mister Lloyd "Burning Heart" Bannings)

[@Steelers3624]

Joon-gi Han in Yakuza: Like A Dragon is obscenely busted. He has a move called Head Trauma that only costs 6 MP and does insane damage to a single enemy, has access to 3 different damage types, has self buffs and can inflict status ailments...and that's just his default class.

[@mr.voidout4739]

Haha, yeah I always kept him in my party.

[@victoralmeida2684]

Since he joined I always kept him on my party, and just uses his default job, Hitman, he's a very cool character story-wise and gameplay-wise.

[@shirokusanagi3901]

ABSOLUTELY. His cheapest skill is incredibly powerful!

[@biblemaneverett6528]

Just throwing out this idea, why not make this a series. There are so many broken characters in video games. You could get more content just for that alone. I like your videos. I recently started doing the Trails series, and your videos helped me decide what my final party members are going to be in endgame cold steel 1 and 2, as well as Sky FC.

[@locloudanerpg]

Um this video is one of my most watched vids in a year. There Will absolutely be more on the way!

[@biblemaneverett6528]

@@locloudanerpgNice!

[@OMEGAID181]

Raquel Wild Arms 4, KOSMOS Xenosaga 3, and Freya Valkyrie Profike 1 and 2.

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

In Breath of Fire III, Rei with a master that boosts agility and the correct battle formation can make everyone in your party have an extra turn, every single turn. You basically build him to be too fast for even the final boss, then slap the Chain Formation to make the other party members just as fast. Absolutely busted.

[@taciolothar3794]

I do that to Ryu, as he is always in the party.

[@SirthOsiris]

T.G. Cid was so broken, when making a cameo appearance in FF14, they had to nerf him AND the entire alliance raid among all the ones in the game because people just left upon zoning in. It is the only 24 man raid with echo, a stat boost buff for the players. Only hard core raids and extreme trials ever get this treatment. Bonus: T.G Cid's theme is also the final boss from Vagrant Story. Basically saying, "This guy is the real final boss of the dungeon. The next one is just a victory lap." Seriously, this absolute Gigachad of a character...

[@jingo4754]

I don't remember them nerfing Cid. I do remember people fearing him though

[@chuckchan4127]

TG Cid is the most broken SRPG I have ever seen. Completely trivialized the end of FFT.

[@verdethestarwarrior1088]

I’m a simple man, I see Poppi I click

[@locloudanerpg]

That’s not a simple man, that’s an alpha Chad.

[@ZanMindtrip]

One of my favorite ways to replay FF8 is too give Zell the HP- Junction Ability ASAP, refine 100 Curagas, and keep him critical for the rest of the game. Just melting Boss HP with Armageddon Fist

[@veghesther3204]

Or on the PS4 remaster KEEP the INFINITE HP cheat on since its also a INFINITE LIMIT break cheat in FF8's PS4 remaster if playing that one.

[@asmodeus58XX]

Later on, I kept Quistis in the party for her broken Mighty Guard. Limit Breaks for everyone!

[@coreywhitaker883]

Zells limit is so funny too. Hit certain combos to gain access to stronger moves? Lmao no thanks I’ll just get 50 beat rush heel drops instead.

[@stevenkurniawan6521]

How is he compared to squall renzokuzen?

[@coreywhitaker883]

@@stevenkurniawan6521 Lion Heart does more damage than Zell can output. Lion Heart is luck based though and so on average Zell will probably put out more damage consistently.

[@shiroiaranon2990]

There’s a reason Radiant Dawn gets referred to as Radiant Haar. Love to see the Xenoblade recognition and shoutout to Enel

[@jaimereupert4247]

Glad to know one of the units to look out for to use for that game. Just started playing it and was curious which units to use or not. ❤

[@Lightningstrike1220]

Radiant Dawn is atrociously hard in the last few chapters.. Haar is a must to build. Edward is also incredible, if you are willing to put the effort into him, and support him with an Earth affinity, he's a near unhittable target.

[@Dhalin]

RE:Orlandu: He's also the only character I know of, who can end a boss battle in a single turn. One of the later fights in the game, against one of the zodiac knights, the caster mage, if you put Orlandu in a specific spot in the starting lineup, he will go first, and be in range to hit the boss with the armor break attack he has. This will always one-shot said boss, instantly ending the battle.

[@davosan6782]

Orlandu is easily one of my all time favourite characters in any RPG. His character, play style and abilities are what made me fall in love with Paladin's when I was a kid 😊

[@dansmith1661]

He wasn't a Paladin. lol@@davosan6782

[@Trasgobardo]

Just good Gameplay and Story Integration. They said that Cid was outrageously powerful, only compared to Barbaneth. That he could decimate armies by himself. And when you get him in your party he does just that~ I mean, by that point Ramza, Agrias and my 3 generics where their very own pantheon of physical gods thanks to their plethora of skills and synergies. But Orlandeu could very well keep up with them (even if in a very simple and straight forward manner) with just his base class and equipment (unlike the other special characters).

[@TrollCapAmerica]

@@Trasgobardo and yet Delita still threatens you and acts he and the rest of the world dont live because you choose for them too while you kill the other physical god trying to wreck the world so they dont get eaten

[@dragames]

sorta... people like to mention orlandu as the broken one... here's an unfortunate part here. Orlandu isn't exactly as OP as people make it. He's OP because of the sword. However, Melidoul and Agrias are better in their respective sword skills. First, they have higher base stats (or rather potential if you leveled up right) and second... they're women. FFT favors women far more than men because of equipment and accessories. In this regard Orlandu is only better BECAUSE he can use both sword skills, not that he's better with them. But there's not really a case where you'd say "hey, orlandu... I want you to use one this turn and the other the next". Melidoul is clearly broken in this one though because the divine sword skills are better on almost any fight that matters. The only thing she suffers at is fighting monsters which outside 2 fights isn't an issue. Agrias fairs better there. The dark knight skill set was kind of useless in the end though.

[@lowkey_gamer4298]

BOF 3 was my fave RPG back in 2009-2010... Peco was also my fave post-game tank especially on how fricking broken he is... He can literally counter any physical attacks and a great meat shield... Thanks to you I'm thinking of replaying this game again!

[@dragames]

BoF 3 ending still messes with my emotions.

[@bireland2012]

I expected Rikku from FFX to make the list. If you know her good mixes you can beat the game without using the sphere grid.

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

exactly what i said in another comment... wakka is better on damage but still needs some of rikku's utility anyway, especially long before you can do 5 digit damage. rikku should have been honorable mention instead

[@PringleTheOne]

Man I loved Erik, hes such a bro, such a powerful bro, I'd always want him as a homie. Good stuff man, I'm always pretty hype to see your stuff, I always love your selection of games man!

[@locloudanerpg]

Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to write this. Thanks for the support

[@chronomasakari]

I still hear “Blah blah blah Tidal Wave” in my dreams sometimes

[@MasterZebulin]

"Blah blah blah...METEOR STORM!!"

[@crocworks]

To go to an earlier game in the Legend of Heroes Trails series... Kloe in specifically Trails in the Sky FC is REALLY op. Well, it's more like her pet bird Sieg is. In FC, that Kaempfer attack that Kloe has essentially makes your opponent do 0 damage to your whole party while simultaneously skyrocketting your own attack back. That attack CUT YOUR OPPONENT'S ATTACK AND DEFENSE IN HALF. And the way the damage calculations work, even small changes in attack/defense would drastically increase or decrease the damage dealt to someone. That bird got nerfed into the ground in the sequel where it went from -50% for both atk & def down to a measly -10% and -15% for atk & def respectively, which goes to show how OP Kaempfer was in FC.

[@skynet0912]

Poppi really only gets broken once you sink an insane amount of time into upgrading her... Add to that, the fact that she doesn't even become available until literally the final dungeon is unlocked, so you would have to spend many hours grinding crystals and other materials with the horrible Tiger Tiger minigame to break her! Someone like Haar is more broken in my opinion, because you get him relativly early in the game, and you have to invest basicly nothing in him before he breaks the game. So i think a good criteria to add for lists like this, is also the effort involved to get the character, how early you get them, and how much time and effort you need to invest in them to become good.

[@scooby149999]

You can straight up have Haar take out one side of the map alone depending on the mission. He was so insanely busted.

[@mrp1234]

iirc you can get Poppi QT-pi in chapter 8 and the game has 10 chapters. there's a ton of game left after you get her

[@skynet0912]

@@mrp1234 Chapter 8 starts with just Rex alone, and you need to go through the majority of Morytha to get your party back. After that, you only really have the climb up the tree, Elysium (which has basicly nothing of interest outside of story), and the final run to Malos left. So unless you have left a ton of things undone at this point or plan to do NG+, there really isn't much left that incentivises the player to REALLY invest several hours into QT-Pi to make her broken, let alone learn how she works. So she IS definitly 100% extremely broken, but her downsides are availability in the story, needing heavy investment of time and ressources, and especially indepth knowledge about how the character works... Contrast that to someone like Haar: Pretty good availability in the story, next to no investment needed unless you get VERY unlucky with levels, and you don't need to know anything special about the game he's in to make him work his magic

[@24hr-Gaming]

​@@skynet0912You're forgetting that Xenoblade 2 actually has a pretty substantial post game that makes her worth using. Besides challenge mode there are also the super bosses. Though for main story busted that is honestly Rex who becomes a permanent beyblade chapter 4 on and has a pretty much permanent party evasion buff with Mythra.

[@Oag1992]

Maria is such a beast and fun to use. Her Energy laser is so mean.

[@jaimereupert4247]

Too bad it's locked behind a post game dungeon. 😢

[@finalheaven9818]

Also Radiation Bots and Scatter Beam. And Aiming Device for MP kills. Her whole kit is busted

[@Dhalin]

Citan from Xenogears, anyone? Seriously. When he first joins you, he fights with his fists, because using his actual weapon, the katana, is even more broken. On-foot battles, nobody else comes close to the kind of damage he can dish out, other than maybe Rico. But unlike Rico, Citan is way faster so he ends up being better. He's got good defense, good HP to go along with that monstrous offense. That is, until, you get Billy who is even more busted thanks to his AoE heal. Though, one could argue that you *need* those AoE heals to survive the Id fight soon after.

[@indumatipngtuber2790]

Damn straight Erik is broken. Once he gets set up, he just absolutely melts basically everything.

[@DolFunDolhpinVtuber]

Rose from Tales of Zestiria is one of my favorites, spamming her Dream Slasher does insane damage at times.

[@khfreak5531]

In “Trails of Cold Steel 2” I abused the heck out Fie’s broken stats. I maxed out her AGL/Evasion to 90% which essentially made her impossible to hit. Then I put all of the rest into her impede stat. This made it so the enemies I fought hardly ever got a turn. I just wailed on them. It didn’t work on the actual final boss however. Since it was immune to impede and had an AOE attack that would rarely ignore evasion/agility. Even with that she was still broken. Plus I’d have Jusis and Emma constantly casting physical and magical barriers on the party whenever it was needed.

[@zikree]

Nah bro, u should make fie evasive af, worked on final boss too

[@khfreak5531]

@@zikree Sorry, I actually meant the evasive/agility stat. Not speed. It’s been a bit since I played it. But yes that made her impossible to hit at the final boss.

[@GhostOfRazgiz]

Valsu Saizer from 7th Saga. Late game he gets a spell called Elixer, and it fully heals a character. Seems simple, but here is the catch; it also fully restores MP, including the MP used for the spell itself. As long as you have access to Elixer, you have effectively unlimited MP.

[@dansmith1661]

If he can survive long enough since enemies will still one-shot your guys in end game.

[@Dhalin]

Ayla from Chrono Trigger. Her being able to one-shot any boss in the game, including Lavos's left bit in his final form (though this requires her to be Lv99 to do so and for her to score a critical hit), is a cherry on top. She's got way more than just that: only Robo beats her in HP and Defense, and nobody beats her in raw physical damage. She has a decent heal, and can AoE heal IIRC when Dual-teching with Frog. Her dual-techs with Chrono have nice AoEs, and she also gets a couple good Duals with Robo. She's also the only character who can fight without equipment during that scene where you're escaping capture (though her lack of armor means it hurts when she gets hit during that sequence and she has to fight alone, but it's better than getting caught by the guards without equipment). Robo himself comes in a very close 2nd, that AoE solo heal of his is amazing as he's the only party member in the game to solo AoE heal, and he makes for a great tank and healer both. Just give him a few speed tabs to counter his slow speed.

[@Kaori_Suzuki]

Even when below lvl 99 she's still a beast. One of my favorite things to do is just have a bunch of revives saved up and bring a healer like Marle and then get her to as low possible hp to use dinotail. Any time she dies? Just revive her but don't heal her. Her hp being critical especially late game means you can usually do max damage without much effort when casting dinotail. Having someone for provoking also helps to keep her from getting hit too much.

[@dragames]

I think the problem here is... even with this, she's not broken... but the other characters (being generous to your argument) come right behind. The game has robo who can one shot any boss in the game too when you're that high up. He also has better survivability and utility by being able to hit most element magic attacks (for the fights that require it) and also a broken as hell AoE heal with WAY better dual techs. Robo's initial downfall was his low speed but speed tabs are actually quite plentiful and farmable. Making the one thing he's not good at... he's really good at. Lucca is better in a lower level run because of protect being able to allow you to survive bosses, and the high base damage of flare, as well as some abusable dual techs. Marle sucks. Frog sucks. Why they screwed over their water magic users, Ionno.

[@Dhalin]

@@dragames The whole point about Ayla is the sheer physical damage she does. She does more physical damage than anybody else, and unless you're fighting stuff where you need magic (only a few select parts of the game), she's going to be doing more damage. I'm not saying Robo is bad, but if you're going to talk about progressing through the whole game and feeding him all the speed tabs (which is something I agree anybody should do), then you've gotten far enough to get Ayla on 99 and get her one-hit kill on anything in the game. Oh, and past Level 75 or so, she doesn't do OHKOs, but IIRC she procs a status effect, I think it's stun or confuse, I forget which until 99. Anyhow, I don't recall Robo ever one-shotting any boss in the game, you'll have to refresh my memory on that one. Again, not saying Robo is bad, and indeed my group for the majority of the game when you're allowed to choose between everybody is Chrono/Robo/Ayla for obvious reasons because they just lay waste to everything. Also, I don't GAF about low level runs. I think they're kinda stupid, they kinda break half of the whole purpose of a JRPG, which is leveling up and progression, so... /shrug don't care about that point.

[@asmodeus58XX]

Can't wait for the next list! I wonder how high Velvet Crow will rank. Because there's no way she isn't on the most broken MCs list.

[@Dhalin]

Her being absolutely busted is kinda par for the course, for the lore of the game. She's _supposed_ to be ungodly powerful, it's literally written into her story. ToB in general is a huge power trip emo fantasy, and it is very unapologetic about it. And that's why most people love that game. They did this, because they desperately needed a Tales game to really succeed like no other Tales game ever succeeded before, because the previous game (Zestiria...) was rather a stinker that not very many people liked. So, they went all out with Velvet, giving her a revealing outfit, emo personality, the flashiest attacks ever, an incredibly emotional backstory, a killer VA (at least the English version) that knocked her performance out of the park, especially the opening scenes of the game, and a sweet cherry on top, making her OP as hell. And it worked. Berseria remains near the top of just about anybody's Tales of lists, or even JRPGs in general.

[@Zaleos]

Poppi is the best, broken or not!!!!

[@yochitoranaga]

As well as having insane dodge potential, Fie is a natural speedster, only beaten by Sarah amongst the core class 7 team, if I remember correctly. Her weapons have two "damage types" for unbalancing at mid-proficiency, which meant she was triggering support strikes more regularly than those with a single damage type at higher proficiency. I usually built Fie in speed, dodge, and crit and paired her up with Laura who is fully built in power and crit. Everyone in my party had one gem that caused delay + disrupt. This meant that Fie could strike at least 4 times before the enemy could... and each time she had a big chance of dragging the high-powered Laura into the strike... some bosses simply couldn't act... especially those that relied on crafts and arts, as those would always be interrupted either by Fie, Rean, or Sarah. Laura rarely had a turn but tanks to Fie, she always actively participated in the fights in a major way, support striking 10k+ damage when Fie did about 3k and Rean 4 to 5k. Any time I could get that formation, it would be smooth sailing until I couldn't use it. (Cold Steel games have a tendency to strip half the team from the available pool until the final part of the game and the school chapters.)

[@JMartini810]

I can't wait !! As a kid I wasn't aware of God Peco in Breath of Fire 3 I knew there could be something there but I just couldnt connect the pieces! I juat loved Ryu, Rei, and Nina ! Also still wishing I could beat the Unicorn Bros. as kid Ryu and somehow get Teepo as a permanent party member !

[@locloudanerpg]

Yeah it’s a fun exploit but I would have never figured it out as a kid.

[@JMartini810]

Exactly!! I barely figured out Rei Weretiger and influence lolol

[@cam9144]

My last time playing Breath of Fire 3 I challenged myself to not use peco at all because he gets so insane.

[@JMartini810]

@@cam9144 He absolutely gets insane ! I remember searching all over for Teepo as well ! Only to be crushed lol I would sometimes challenge myself to use Momo because she seemed bad but she just had to have something..... She didn't but I thought the same with Garr lolol Man now I want to replay Breath of Fire 3.... Definitely an amazing soundtrack doesn't hurt

[@cam9144]

@@JMartini810 - Momo is fantastic when you train her under a master (currently forget) that can boost her accuracy. Then there's some equipment that does as well. Then I gave her a monster skill that has a high chance to crit and she was blasting everything while being a great supporting class. I trained Ryu to be really high in magic so his dragon forms would pop off and last longer.

[@notomelette247]

Erik's combo in DQ11 is the reason i immediately started a 2nd playthrough after beating the game. It was something i figured out far to late in my 1st playthrough, and i wanted to abuse it early in my 2nd playthrough.

[@stefannelson5785]

Woohoo! A trails shoutout :). Fun fact, evasion tanking isn't even the most broken thing you can do in the first two cold steel games... It is the most forward-facing broken thing that helps many players through the game, but "quick casting" arts builds with Emma, Elliot (or whatever casters), Domination stacking (Cold steel 2 only) with Laura (to one-shot bosses with s crafts), and delay stacking with Rean make evasion tanks kind of obsolete (your opponent's never getting a turn is "better" than never getting hit xD). Evasion tanks are still broken though, since you can't do those other things until later in the games xD.

[@siphons5737]

Let's be honest, cold steel is kind of broken, even 3,4 and Reverie (Reverie is the most broken one, especialy the damage output from the enemy)

[@quanquin3822]

Haborym from the original PS1/SNES Tactics Ogre is a beast. Incredibly fast, and with Petrify magic can disable most of the enemy team by turn 2 or 3.

[@krixousragnarr2458]

Ozma in the Psp version is also just fucking broken all cuz of her low WT she is insanely fast if I recall correctly she can get 2 turns to the 2nd fastest characters 1 which gives you like 6 turns for every enemies 1.

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

Also, Rikku is more busted than Wakka in FF10.... she has 64 potential overdrive when you learn the system of her mix and it's her alone that allows you to NEVER need break HP limit and break MP limit for any fight. Wakka is stronger on the damage front, but Rikku is overall more busted. plus, she can let you deal 9999 damage with every hit very early in the game, which compounds onto wakka's overdrive at a time where you're probably struggling to even get 1000 in a hit.

[@killerb255]

For early game, Rikku is more busted with Trio of 9999/Quartet of 9. Late game Wakka is throwing out 99999 x12 hits with his Overdrive, so Trio of 9999/Quartet of 9 is not helping him there.

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

@@killerb255 while true, she's still needed for the null all stuff among other things or you'll have trouble getting those attack reels off anyway. in fact, she's still a must if you want to avoid getting break HP limit, as it's possible to beat every fight in the game without it. plus i can't really call it "Early game" since you likely won't even be capable of dealing more than 9999 in a hit without some insane grinding or already having cleared zanarkand which is the end of the game basically.

[@thehive7598]

Fie in CS 2 was how I got into her story more and love her as a character. I didn't even got full evasion like you said in set up, but she had an evasion state of like 65 percent and was BUSTED

[@TARDISES]

The funny thing is CS2 also makes her busted in a different way at the same time - it gives her a Stealth craft, and that buff is an entirely different level of broken because its main effect is basically "impossible to be targeted by any enemy". This is how I discovered that the forced-loss battles in CS2 just... end a few turns after what's supposed to be a wipe, because she just Stealthed her way through one to not get hit. Its *other* effect is guaranteed crits on crafts, which leans into a bunch of other mechanics and even just raw damage

[@gamerk316]

Don't forget either: the Shining art grants Evasion +50%, so if you want the extra turn of setup you only need 50% evade, which is trivial even in the midgame. Combine that with the fact the AI will ALWAYS target the closest opponent to them, and Fie becomes unstoppable until the final boss (who has an undodgable attack she probably can't tank). Also, Laura with max DPS and the quartz that makes her first skill used per battle do double damage can one-shot most things if fully buffed on a crit. RNG specific, but it's fun killing superbosses in one attack.

[@dave9515]

Stealth should have been removed from the game after CS2 showed how unbalanced the mechanic was. Glad Kuro weakens it greatly. Stealth was a mistake. Too bad Kuro hard nerfed physical builds after Reverie put the balance in teh right direction again in terms of character options.@@TARDISES

[@TARDISES]

@@dave9515 And the funny thing is that Stealth was still a bit weaker in CS2 than it was in Azure simply because I don't recall a stealth-granting food item (which is relevant because Moebius exists) in CS2. Of course, with that party-wide stealth potential came the risk of softlocks. Which I did run into on my last playthrough. Do not try it against the plant cryptids, they literally don't know what to do if they don't have a target.

[@RyukenVermilion]

Fie busted indeed at CS2 since she can counter with range attack unlike CS1 fie only counter with melee. i manage to get over 100% evasion rate on her and no boss can even lift finger on her even in nightmare difficulty xD.

[@gregphoenix5272]

Peter from Shining Force 2. A flying beast of an attacker that can tank hits due to high HP, decent Def, and has a natural resistance to fire spells..

[@TrollCapAmerica]

He also flies giving him the best possible mobility and auto-ressurects himself after a fight if he actually dies

[@Rhevenant]

Zerase in Suikoden 5 is pretty and broken. Use her for easy mode.

[@killerb255]

Her Star Rune plus a Magic Absorb Rune is definitely busted. What's even more busted, however, is any character in Suikoden 2, 3, 4, and 5 that has three Rune slots and a very high attack. Some combination of Fury, Double-Beat, and Double-Strike runes (or their equivalents) can cause a character to do enough damage to one-round (if not one-shot) a final boss!

[@cyrushalberd624]

I recognize a lot of these picks, either from having played the games they came from (Rita, Tressa, Eric, Fie, Poppi) or learning of their absurd reputation through osmosis given how many RPGs I play (Thunder God Cid, Zell). I don’t see people talk about Trails often so seeing Fie in particular on this list was a very pleasant surprise. In the Cold Steel era of the series evasion tanks can become truly absurd, and Fie’s increased range for counters makes her incredibly broken as an evasion tank. And if you thought CS1/2 Fie was already untouchable, the later games (CS4 and Reverie especially) allow for her to access even more ridiculous builds. It’s a case of a strong character only getting better with time. Between that and her easily being one of my favorite members of Class VII, it’s little wonder she stayed a permanent fixture of my team whenever possible. XD

[@metleon]

I'd say Yuna is actually stronger than Wakka, especially since most people will be playing the HD version these days where certain Aeons got buffed. Anima and the Magus Sisters can now do multiple hits of max damage, summoning is the easiest way to get around devastating attacks, and Aeons can often solo bosses throughout the story.

[@joemoak9966]

I absolutely saw runelord Tressa coming, staple of my favourite game :)

[@krunkcleanup2949]

In Namco x Capcom, Kos-Mos is absolutely busted. You can't lose if you have her on your team!

[@jhon1406]

FE8 Seth has gotta make the list

[@julien827]

dq11 also has a jade outfit whith the effect of making her completly invincible, definitly the most broken a character can be, obviously its locked behind the hardest secret post game fight so you wont do anything with it but still

[@zevmerces]

If you think Fie is nuts in CS2, you should see Juna in CS3 or Crow in CS4.

[@alxjones]

I gotta disagree with number 8. When playing casually, Meru will certainly be your best character. She's got the most speed and her final addition is the best *multiplier* in the game (but keep in mind that her low strength mostly balances this out). However, her fatal flaw is joining late. She doesn't join *that* late, but the actual most broken character in the game just happens to join almost right away: Shana. At just 5 less speed and noticeably higher magic stat, Shana is a real life nuke that trivializes the entire game. You get her before the first boss, and the game practically begs you to spam magic items with her because her regular attack is by far the worst (and least fun) in the game, and they always happen to give you the item that's strong against the next boss. The only downside to the Shana nuke is that the 32 item limit requires you to know the game well enough to manage your inventory in a way that allows you access to the items you need. As a bonus, once you get Meru, she can assist with the magic spam, but Shana is still the star of the show by far.

[@locloudanerpg]

It was a hard one. Shanas magic stat and item abuse can be crazy.

[@TheGreatLords]

about star ocean 2, there are two op characters that are kind overlooked, noel and chisato, in this game mages suck, noel is a mage and kind a worst healer than Rena, however he can equip the best armor in the game the blood armor, you are imortal however your hp rapiddly drecresses, the point is, he has a party wide heal, and if you give it enough proficiency he can heal out the dmg of the blood armor, and chisato is know for her high dps, but never saw anyone using her imortal build, there is a weapon called the phantom slayer that you can find in the post game dungeon, this weapon also has the passive to heal you based on the damage you heal, so she can became imortal with blood armor, she can solo the superboss of that game with easy, of you find maria broken, let me say the combo chisato noel turns star ocean 2 in a idle game

[@veghesther3204]

The only problem with that is NOEL IS PURE CRAP if you really want to use 4 Bloody armor users Opera MUST be one of them have Healing Star at 999 uses and Bloody armor Claude Chisato and Dias on a Rena game and Bowman if you can't USE Dias at all. Actually even wit 999 Fairy Light//Heal users Noel will NEVER outheal a 999 use Healing Star and Unlike Rena he doesn't HAVE a USE healing ONLY spells AI at all so he's still PURE CRAP.

[@TheGreatLords]

@@veghesther3204 dude, i did it with easy in both versions, you only need to put off all of his other spells, the best party i did was chisato, claude, noel and opera, and with only 500 uses noel can out heal the dmg

[@veghesther3204]

With Opera in the party Noel is still pure CRAP and even with Fairy Light/Heal as his ONLY spells turned on he will almost NEVER use them so I'll never have him join the party EVER so bloody armor Claude Opera Chisato Dias/Bowman ONLY. Even with 500 uses Noel is NOT likely to outheal HEALING star since I pretty much has Noel's Fairy Light/heal ONLY restore 2000 HP at ANY USE count. Healing Star is also instant WITHOUT a charge up time spell charging is still LETHAL with the Blood armors HP drain effect.

[@Zefiro151]

I agree, Poppy is definetly broken. 8 billion is definitely a number. But I still love pulling out lucky seven in xenoblade 3 using capable hands, spam tachion slash and, if there is still an enemy alive after the doom effect, use final lucky seven and even superbosses die in two hits if i'm not using a chain attack. The animation itself of Noah gently touching the blade at the start is just magnificent.

[@svenseike4496]

For me, late Game in Xc 2 is almost: build 2x or 3 orbs, full trigger bar, summon out Pneuma. An lot blades do high damage (zenobia, dagdas, newt, kosmos)

[@charlieprince8671]

I would offer up Bleu from Breath of Fire 2. Ridiculously high stats gets all the most powerful magics in the game well before everyone else and is nigh literally immortal because she can full heal herself at any time for no cost using Shed lol I would also say Geno might be more broken than Peach because of the Genowhirl trick letting him basically one shot every enemy in the game including almost all the bosses. And I think TG Cid might be too low.. When he gets high Brave stat, the Blade Grasp skill, Robe of Lords and the Eschuteon II he's unkillable. 95% chance to avoid any attack thrown at him with auto haste the most damage in the game bar a calculator and moves that can heal him back to full. Only thing near as busted is like Agrias with a similar setup and the Chantage because she becomes literally immortal with it but not as pants on head broken as Cid because he gets every swordskill in the game and his stats are just ridiculously higih. Half decently, let alone the utter broken setup I mentioned before Cid can solo the entire game with no issue and no in fight setup just set him free. Hell put his AI on auto and watch the slaughter.

[@Zorothegallade-gg7zg]

A honorable mention could be Pleinair in the first Disgaea. She comes with S rank in Guns and a huge Hit growth, and you can get her as soon as you can NG+, which if you let the first chapter boss beat you can be as early as half an hour into the game. Then you can start using her as your main damage dealer since Hit controls both damage with guns and the chance to hit and crit on enemies. Sure, any unit in Disgaea can become powerful enough to solo everything eventually, but Pleinair can carry you through most of that even before you start engaging with most mechanics.

[@raina1848]

Alex from Lunar Silver Star Story is kind of broken once he gets his Dragon Spells. Glenn from Chrono Cross outclasses a lot of the characters and gets duel wielding of the Einlanzer. Maybe not seen as broken idk, but Jade from Tales of the Abyss can become a wrecking machine once he has his best spells from the scrolls and the item to give you the quickest casting time AND easy field of fonon generation with wind in particular.

[@RipleySawzen]

Yuna from FFX is way more broken than Wakka. Aeons in that game are just stupid strong busted. If you play with her every battle, the game becomes a cakewalk. Plus there's Yojimbo.

[@rawaali8451]

The main game But not the optional stuff- without waka’s Limit Break most optional bosses would be hell

[@RipleySawzen]

@@rawaali8451 Again, Yojimbo XD

[@ThundagaT2]

@@rawaali8451 Not true, its not very difficult to beat Penance with Tidus, Yuna, Rikku. Thats the party i used for the entire post game. Even fought all 3 Dark Magus Sisters together with that party. Wakka's a crutch people seem to have lol. Didnt want to go through the trouble of blitzball to get his setup because i dont like blitzball, so to me its not worth when i know i can do without it. And yeah i know i said Yuna, but i didnt use summons either outside of using them to tank the oneshots from Dark Aeon overdrives

[@killerb255]

Yuna's Aeons (outside of Yojimbo and a few select uses of Anima) are mostly meat shields late game and post game.

[@RipleySawzen]

@@killerb255 If you use her for every single battle you will absolutely steamroll everything late game. I did so once and made sure not to ever again because it was just boring.

[@victoralmeida2684]

Great video, I'm looking forward to the top 10 worst party members video, I just hope you don't include Edward(Gilbert) from Final Fantasy IV because he's one of my favorite characters in that game😅.

[@marcosdheleno]

11:35 that is indeed a massive damage. but there's one thing you forgot about one of the characters. and the reason why he should've been n1. Orlandu from FF tactics DOES NOT NEED ANY SETUP. he is broken from the moment you get him, you dont need to do anything beyond putting him on the team for him to destroy everything in his path. at most, put equipment on him. IF you want to make him better, all you need to do is give him dual wield, and possibly one of the better defensive abilities. but at that point its already overkill. what makes orlandu so broken, is not that he is is strong, or that he has access to all knight classes skills. but because he has access to dark knight skills, which, in the base game, HE IS THE ONLY ONE who can. and those skills not only allow him to dish out one shots left and right, but also heal for the ammount of damage he has delivered. and sure you cna make anyone broken in FFT. but the fact orlandu is from the moment you get him basically an OP Boss character that is playable.

[@kagemusha7029]

Ryu's Agni form is totally broken which he had to use against final boss in order to get best ending. Peppita from Star Ocean 3, Robin from Fire Emblem Awakening, Elwin from Der Langrisser, War Lady from Disgaea 6/7, and Veronica from Dragon Quest 11 deserves to mention too.

[@siphons5737]

For Fie, I do see why you would think she's the best, as she is one of the few character that ca counter attack ranged attacks and has a 25% base evade stat, however I do think Rean might be best (in cs1 and 2 of course) because of one thing, delay, he can just delete enemy turn with his delay craft and some quartz impede, as well as still having 100% evade since everyone can have that in these games. You could also put in it Laura since she can, you know, one shot bosses with her S-craft at the start of the fight ?

[@Silvamoon]

Every video I watch mention xenoblade chronicles 2 makes me want to play it again more. One day. Hopefully before they remaster it on the switch 2

[@NightmareOni]

I would of started throwing hands if Maria wasn't on this list and at the very least in the top 5. Man knows his stuff. Also, I expected any unit from any Disgaea game to be on here. Like literally, ANY unit.

[@denisfolcik1373]

Fie was my favorite character even before seeing she could be an evade tank. Still works in 3+4, also with Reverie but you don't get her til late there. Kurt can do it also.

[@nasunasu1446]

Kurt could do that as well , but Fie got that broken attack range + base evasion

[@potatomatop9326]

Now imagine Orlandu having Math Skill...

[@nathank2289]

Nothing for Magus? Only guy in the game with all 4 damage types and Dark Matter?

[@iveyyewitt1621]

I almost never take the nuker out of my party in any Tales game.

[@MoogleBoss]

BoF3 Peco's slow and needs time to grow into a capable fighter. Sure, he can tank hits and counterattack, but you don't really have to do that when you outspeed and wipe random encounters out in one turn and Ryu's dragon powers dispatch bosses in no time at all. The real optimal use for Peco is to exploit his low starting level to gain some of the better Master skils, like Shadowwalk, really early. Garr is helpful for the same reason, to a much lesser extent. I don't think Quina is all that great in FF9 outside of LLGs, too.

[@nonameuser2020]

In trails of cold steel the same thing can be done with Rean the main character. However, upgrading Lauras attack, giving her the quarz for the first attack deals double damage plus the vanishing quarz you can easily one shot bosses, even in late game. My favorite combo of the series is pairing her up with 100% evassion Rean. Never fails

[@dave9515]

Funny thing about Rean is his physical damage is higher than Laura's actually because if you eat a meal and have max strength buff then overdrive and it allows you to reaplly the buff for a higher number then use ogre unleashed to stack ogre attack buffs on top of meal attack buffs and his DPS is higher than Laura's with the same build at that point. Rean is arguably the most broken trails character of all time aside from Crow. Even tehn magic damage was insanely higher than physical even in CS1 and 2.

[@JeannieLove]

"Blablabla Tidal Wave!" makes Rita my number 1

[@DaakkuuYRS]

Poppi is the most broken character in RPGs... if you actually play the stupid, boring, and annoying mini game of Tora. I couldn't; sorry, it is that bad.

[@jogymogy3691]

It steals time

[@sharebear421]

She’s also a terrible (ina cringe type of way) character. Tbh if the world wasn’t so fun to explore I never would’ve completed xbc2

[@DaakkuuYRS]

@@sharebear421 Totally agree. I hate her and Tora with passion. The only reason he created her is to make a toy of his erotic fantasies.

[@barongeoffrey75]

@@sharebear421 right. I use him only when i have to. For the cringe there is THAT scène with Mythra... hard to forget.

[@themegatonmenace1224]

Tiger Tiger is life

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

Maria? Being used from AFAR? You don't know how to scatter beam spam if you're saying that.... you go POINT BLANK with that skill and get all 10 hits to connect. and assuming it's dealing 50k each shot, you're hitting for 2.5 million damage EACH COMBO. people SPEEDRUN with this attack

[@scubasteve5326]

Sees title and sees Orlandu...... I'm already pleased lol

[@karlispovisils5297]

Something you neglected to mention about Eric is that his move Critical Claim is great in the mid-game for killing Metal Slimes and getting level-ups faster for everyone in the party

[@xGasTon87x]

Super Robot Wars games are usually not very dificult but Zeorymer in J is particularly so busted that one of the secrets of the game requieres the player never using it unless forced up to a point late game. Your reward? An even more powerful version of the unit called Great Zeorymer. Also Ideon in Alpha 3 starts combat pretty weak but as it fight it's special Ide gauge starts rising to the point that it get infinite energy and absurdly powerful attacks, one of witch can just out right hit the whole map if you position it right

[@zhaoyun255]

Ash the Vandalier...The most broken unit in Tactical RPG every created.

[@sharebear421]

Good stuff man! Keep up the jrpg videos

[@locloudanerpg]

Thanks! Fighting the good fight my friend. Also I love Gintama!

[@jerongordon]

If you ever do a part 2 of this, i have 2 suggestions from some games. 1. Battle Chasers Nightwar: Garrison for his ability to just destroy the damage limit with crit damage or Red Monika for her ability to stack on almost every status ailment in the game to deal every type of damage in ONE TURN. 2. Yakuza like a dragon: obviously itll be Joon Gi because guns go brrrrr.

[@locloudanerpg]

Nice! Great suggestions.

[@sebastiandzulsolano2707]

I discover the exploit of EV of cold steel thaks to you. I wanted to cry while I remember how I left out Fie from my team after seeing how easy she can overcome the bosses. Great video!!!

[@locloudanerpg]

I did too in my first playthrough.

[@ntrotter1166]

I had a similar reaction my first time through Cold Steel hahahaha. I didn't realize how valuable EVA was until I started trying the optional bosses in CS2 hahahaha. Now I can't picture playing through without an eva tank

[@sebastiandzulsolano2707]

@@ntrotter1166 it is way more easy an EV tank than many other tactics. On CS 3 I used the EV tank and I think I could not beat the game without one

[@veghesther3204]

I don't why evade attacks when 4x 99,999 S crafts/4x 500,000 S crafts in 1 turn ON EASY mode will still kill everything in Mere seconds 4x 100% Evade users is good and all but it will still GIMP your s craft damage that even on easy mode its not worth it. Heck in the current game Reverie/Hajimari's dub I won't use a SINGLE Evade user and use a full Str setup to try to 1 turn kill the post game bosses at lv 250 on VERY EASY mode in UNDER 30 seconds.

[@TheDougWay]

I didn't think Rita was even an above average character tbh. If you wanted to go with a Tales of Character, I'd recommend Marta from the 2nd Tales of Symphonia. If you get enough speed casts on her she can cast like instantly, and with technical III she also has like infinite TP. Combined with that she can give your whole party autolife status makes it impossible to lose. And she can heal, support, and attack, too.

[@Ingisen]

Choco from Arc the Lad. She's in all the games (5 main entries in total on console). She's a kid that wipes the floor with everybody, even the final boss in all the games! Trolling before it was mainstream, I tell ya

[@DanteCrowlley]

I try to never break my games in the first play, but if the game asks me to do it I won't hold back

[@locloudanerpg]

Good philosophy

[@DigitalMorph07]

My girl Zerase couldn’t even get an honorable mention? New to the channel, enjoyed the vid 👍

[@locloudanerpg]

Haha oh no! I even did a Sui V list too! I’m sure we’ll make more in the future!

[@DigitalMorph07]

@@locloudanerpg looking at your channel uploads, I am actually not new…I watched your Xenoblade 3 class tier list a while ago haha. Don’t know why I didn’t subscribe then Edit: also watched your SO6 character tier list. I’m a fan of your content 😂

[@locloudanerpg]

@@DigitalMorph07 haha glad you made your way back! Welcome to the Family!

[@SirBanana1992]

Legend of Heroes really is a breeding ground for OP characters with the power creep that kept going, especially from Azure onward with master quartz and how the bell quartz worked in that game, but Reverie really brings that to its peak. If not characters, combat features can be OP, from using brave orders and united fronts to be practically immortal, but I liked trying to theory craft broken builds as Reverie allowed practically everyone to become a broken monster to the point tier lists barely matter. One setup I had on one character allowed that single character to achieve 100% win condition by just having 60 CP on her first turn. Altina with Erda master quartz and caliburn/Beowulf sub (I prefer caliburn for space arts). You get a character that can infinitely sustain stealth with the CP buildup and their own EP. Literally just cast Ebon Shade once every 2 turns, using the odd turns for art casts. I was able to make it work even in the mid game without all the busted quartz and accessories. Because you don't need an evasion tank or a chained delay spam when the enemy literally turns into a braindead punching bag wasting all of their turns doing nothing at all. Also, in later games I feel Sara is a better evasion tank than Fie. Sara can self-buff with max str, max speed AND insight plus also has a ranged counter where Fie's self-buff grants stealth, which defeats the purpose of counter attacking. I end up using Fie for status spraying

[@skyknight0408]

Yeah, evasion tank Fie is pretty broken. But so is Laura in her "Godslayer" build. Give her every piece of equipment and Quartz that pushes her STR, Tauros MQ and top it off with the Domination Quartz that doubles the damage of her first attack. If you then double buff her STR at the beginning of the fight, her S-Craft can pretty much onshot most bosses in the game. I think that was the reason they implemented the shieldbreak mechanic for the later games that makes you do less dmg until the defense of the enemy gets broken. And you know what's even more broken? Link those girls togehter for the max amount of counter attack dmg. That way it makes a cakewalk out of the things that don't die instantly to Laura.

[@mobes8876]

Xenoblade 3: Noah -Noah for most of the game isn’t really amazing. However, once Noah gets Lucky 7, you basically win. It is an automatic AOE full driver combo. It is so utterly broken that it invalidates the rest of the game. Have a mob of monsters, you launch smash all of them at once and just kill them. Have a super boss? Buff yourself and then launch smash them and they are either dead and just about dead. Lucky 7 is one of the most broken things I’ve played with in massive JRPGs

[@SuperDawsome]

Add capable hands and it's a wrap

[@juancarlosfernandezperez6843]

Isn't FMJ full evasion the meta now?

[@dave9515]

For evade builds there are lots of options and one is stalker which is surprisingly better than FMJ with falsh fencer arguably the best at being an evade tank for some reason. The meta is awakened seraphs with support soulhacker, mash, signifier and troubadour user and by signifier medic signifer and masha troubadour or some other class and troubadour but the important ones are masha class, soulhacker, and signifier for supports and having mainly seraphs for attackers with of course no tanks unless its lone exile cause thats the only good and amazing tank class endgame. FR is abusing mathew and killing everything mad fast or endgame using Rex and spamming spinning edge and shredding everything in chain attacks. Xenoblade 3 meta doesn't matter much when you can debuff every boss and also just make almost any team work for the most part. Its much less restricting than 2 for the most part.@@juancarlosfernandezperez6843

[@kuks0453]

Not to mention the weapon has a built-in really high probability insta kill effect on basically every attack. This means you are probably one shotting everyone before you even have the chance to build your special attack (this doesn't affect bosses, but just kill them with the special attack itself, it already acts like a one shot anyway)

[@wood1066]

The classic evasion tank Fie method. It kind of sucks in Cold Steel 1 because Fie couldn't do long range counter attacks in that game, but from Cold Steel 2 onwards Fie can pretty much solo any game she's in without you having to do anything.

[@lancelindlelee7256]

Also, you can reach 90+% evasion if you equip the Vermillion MQ. It gives double damage when at max HP, and even heals you for every kill. You will always be at max HP.

[@veghesther3204]

Evade is still PURE Crap even on easy mode Vermillion in CS1 and 2 I COULD still have Fie do 99,999 S craft damage and around 300,000 in S craft damage CS2 by lv 200.

[@lancelindlelee7256]

@@veghesther3204 I'm not shaming people for playing on easy but really not a good standard for seeing what is good/bad. Evasion especially scales when enemies hit harder and are harder to kill. Played CS 2/3 on hard and CS4/ Reverie in nightmare.

[@veghesther3204]

For that I won't attempt Hard/NIGHTMARE at ANY LV that is NOT max lv and still won't EVER use Evade and STILL do FULL Str setups to try to kill EVERYTHING in under 30 seconds.

[@dave9515]

Just abuse statuses or laura in CS1 and have fie a delay spammer as for 2 go wild almost everything works even on nightmare and rean and laura trivialize the game with oneshot builds along with emma and much more. Delay builds are also insanely broken in CS2 like verything can be delayed. Nightmare isn't that hard in any trails game if you understand the game and the tools you have. CS2 has a masterquartz that gambles damage values if you get every fish in the game.@@veghesther3204

[@andchaos1]

Well, Orlandu is mostly good because of the equiped Excalibur, give the weapon to another character an he also gets OP, so its more the weapon than the character itself, but if we tal about most broken party members than i would say its Red Chocobo in FFT, the from basic stats fastest with the longest movement reach character, with the Choco-Meteor who has a 5 tile range and ignores heights and does masive damage he easy breaks the game.

[@Dhalin]

Orlandu also has all of those Mighty Swordskills, though. Sure, those skills are available to Agrias and others, but Orlandu has _every single one of them_ all in one singular package. Sure, you could take his Excalibur off of him and give it to someone else, but why would you? You'd be severely nerfing the guy who has the best skills in the game, while buffing anybody else who can use knight swords, but why would you do that when their skills and/or abilities are vastly inferior? Just face it, nobody comes close to Orlandu when it comes to abilities. AoE abilities, abilities that breaks enemy's equipment, abilities that lower stats, most of which have a 100% chance to hit and are instant, and the AoEs never friendly fire. Nobody else's abilities even come close unless you pull off some sunken state dance cheese or something having to do with calculators.

[@dansmith1661]

Give a female Chantage and it is impossible to die.@@Dhalin

[@marcosdheleno]

@@Dhalin that's what makes orlandu broken, he doesnt need anything to be broken, no setup, no special anything, if you dont change anything about him, and just put him in the party, he will clean everything in reach. that's what make him so OP. other characters need special equipment, or some specific build. not orlandu, the guy can just do it from the moment you get him.

[@Dhalin]

@@marcosdheleno That was the point I was making, in response to the thread starter saying that Orlandu is only good because of Excalibur. No, he's OP because of his insane skillset. Even if you put some other endgame sword on him that isn't Excalibur, he'd still be stronger than anybody else.

[@Flutterdark_]

even ignoring the most optimal setup for poppiqtpi there is another thing that makes tora broken in that game, perhaps even more so since its easier to use. the fact that across all his poppis, tora has access to the entire blade combo. and not just that, but the break of qtpi is a 3 hit with 3 chances to break, so really easy to break enemies a broken enemy is then quickly toppled and launched, while launched they take more damage or you can just smash them for a burst of damage and item frops. also the moment an enemy is toppled or launched they cant do anything, allowing tora to stunlock most enemies and bosses in the entire game. so even if you barely customize them, the poppis reign supreme

[@ericstelzman5190]

Here's another broken character: Joon-gi Han from Yakuza: Like a Dragon. His default job has access to all three types of physical damage, and with the three transferable elemental attacks from certain jobs (Host for ice, Foreman for fire, Fortuneteller for thunder), he can exploit any enemy's weaknesses.

[@mueezadam8438]

Saw Fie in the title and I got flashbacks to the best evasion tank in the game. just plop her in the middle of a horde and watch them waste their turns trying to scratch her after-after images 😅

[@personaking7]

what about nemissa from soul hacker

[@Ajoura]

"Top 10 Broken RPG Party Members" *Dog from Arcanum:* Yeah. Fuck me.

[@bukojoetheslapsoils8273]

"Eric can one-hit any boss" Proceeds to hit the enemy GAZILLION times.

[@Spiderwilliam13]

I feel like Gau from Final Fantasy 6 is pretty broken especially when you get him. Spend a little while roaming the fields and he can learn some devestating AOE magics or multi hit physical moves that absolutly shred opponents. I really love him and always had a spot for him in the party.

[@dave9515]

Gau may be good but Setzer can one shot with his slot machine any boss in teh game with deathblow. Setzer makes the game cutscene mode with how broken his slot machine is.

[@veghesther3204]

About that like FF7 s instant kill slot for FF6 Setzer almost NEVER triggers it and on the PIXEL version Auto battle mode like 90% of the time would trigger the one that KILLS your OWN party not the enemies.

[@NotHere-un5pf]

From what I remember, Mog is actually the most broken character in FFVI. Something about being able to equip the best equipment in the game + a multi hit, max damage jump I think? On top of just generally being able to clear everything easily with the learned songs or whatever.

[@richardcaraballo1185]

Partitio in Octopath 2 is pretty broken as well. Granted, that game can certainly be broken by a number of characters & builds, but Partitio is probably the most easily broken, provided you have money. Sidestep + Hang Tough+ Rest for survivability, Arrow of Fortune & Bifelgians bounty for grinding, Donate BP + An SP healing skill for the party, that alone removes alot of difficulty. Then you add Hired Help & Negotiate Schedule, and the game gets put on easy mode. Give him Full Power as a support skill, activate his latent, & a full BP hired Help just obliterates and/or breaks everything, opening up the enemy for the heavy hitters (Hikari, Throne, Ochette, possibly Oswald or Casti) to clean up. It's just insane. I made mine an Inventor sub class, gave him Salt The Wound, plus the axe and spear that give +1 hit. Parti breaks the enemy, goes again because STW, donates BP to Hikari, Hikari abides, then next turn either uses brands blade or his latent power, and boom, enemy dead.

[@jaimereupert4247]

I'll have to keep this in mind, I'm playing the demo of that game and wasn't sure which units to use or how to build them. ❤

[@richardcaraballo1185]

@@jaimereupert4247 it's a pretty customizable game, you can really find a party set up that works best with whatever play style you like. Can't go wrong with pretty much any party make up. Which is why I absolutely love that game.

[@jaimereupert4247]

He/She is one if the 8 people you can use as the MC, right? Not sure who's story to go through.

[@richardcaraballo1185]

@@jaimereupert4247 yes sir, and his story is pretty good. Not at all a bad choice for your MC. If you do choose him as your main, I recommend going for Hikari or Throne as your second, those are primary damage dealers, Partitio can support them very nicely via Donate BP.

[@jaimereupert4247]

@@richardcaraballo1185 atm, I'm doing the Thief character, I forgot what their name was.

[@dansmith1661]

No mention of FF7 Barret with max materia and Ungermax spam doing max damage a dozen times in seconds and mimic forever. Also Tifa with Powersoul with critical hp and death sentence from Cursed Ring, doing 8X damage.

[@helloidharbl6753]

TG Cid of course is GOAT. Peco could be overlooked until you realize that he's getting massive stat boosts every friggin level until he's just completely unstoppable.

[@mr.voidout4739]

Pleasantly surprised there wasn't a Persona mention on this list. P5 exaggerated the hell out of the series.

[@knightsurda]

Honestly shocked that Reimi from Last Hope isnt on this list. Crimson Squall, a level 25 ability, is the only ability she needs to carry the game. Its pretty much a challenge to NOT use her since she is in the party from the start of the game. Precis from 2nd story is also a contender, in NG+ scenarios especially. She can easily hit the damage cap with the limiter removed with her ultimate weapon. The worst offender of this however has to go to Orlandeau from FFT. You can't mention Radiant Dawn and Harr without mentioning the Square Enix counterpart. Dude can solo the game.

[@killerb255]

Blue from SaGa Frontier. Can have spells from opposing schools, has a time magic spell called Overdrive that gives him up to 8 actions (instead of just one), and after those eight actions, NORMALLY loses all WP (to use techs), JP (to use spells), and bullets for guns. However, if the last of those eight actions is the Stasis Rune spell or the Snake Oil item, the loss of WP/JP/bullets doesn't happen. On top of that, if he learns the most powerful martial arts tech in the game, DSC, he can spam that seven times in Overdrive followed by Stasis Rune or Snake Oil. This one-shots every boss in the game except for some super bosses in the remaster. Time Lord is another busted character, but you have to put more effort into him since he's a Mystic and Mystics are more limited on what they can do than Humans. The best you can do with Time Lord is absorb three monsters into his Mystic weapons powerful enough to get his INT/WIL/PSY stats to 99 so he can get 8 actions, give him the backpack so he can use Snake Oils (or have him do the Rune Quest for Stasis Rune), have him do the Shadow quest for Shadow Servant (creates a clone that duplicates the user's action), and use a combination of Shadow Servant, six Griffith Scratches or Tiger Rampage (attacks from the absorbed monsters), and then Stasis Rune or Snake Oil. EDIT: The "No protagonists" rule disqualifies Blue, so I guess Time Lord it is. :D

[@dansmith1661]

Also the RNG possession from certain living equipment enemies that increase your stats further.