Who is Best in Suikoden II (Tier List)

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@alexchng3781
@alexchng3781 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward for the rest of your suikoden character's ranking. Keep up the good work! I love hearing the comparison and analyses of their strength & weaknesses. It was so much fun especially when there are plenty of party members.
@bsnonsense4535
@bsnonsense4535 Жыл бұрын
Stallion should be in the highest tier, since having him in your party lets you walk at double speed on the world map.
@darrellj.scherzerjr.6308
@darrellj.scherzerjr.6308 Жыл бұрын
Also with a spark rune, even the slowest party members such as Humphrey get to act before the enemy.
@toadsage7328
@toadsage7328 Жыл бұрын
Didn't know this. Thanks 👍
@bosskeke4282
@bosskeke4282 Жыл бұрын
one more, you can "RUN" from every enemy you meet. never fail
@zachhalla1991
@zachhalla1991 Жыл бұрын
@@bosskeke4282 and Stallion also comes with a unlimited use escape talisman, which is handy.
@christinadoxstader3004
@christinadoxstader3004 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Once I recruited him in both games he pretty much never left my party,
@KuyaJessTV
@KuyaJessTV Жыл бұрын
Hey thank you this is one of my favorite game. So many memories went back and I totally agree with the tier list. As far as I can remember my end game was Hero,Mcdohl,Flik,Viktor,Luc and Shiro
@ZimtPorridge
@ZimtPorridge Жыл бұрын
I played Suikoden 2 as a kid and this video took me down memory lane! I remembered a lot of the characters and that I loved Chaco and Luc!
@theoldcorporal
@theoldcorporal 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man... I just wish this was an hour long. Suikoden 2 is my favorite RPG all-time, i could watch this all day...
@decilo2236
@decilo2236 Жыл бұрын
Same. Suikoden is my beginning of my life, mention it now can makes me cry.😢
@billykidman2091
@billykidman2091 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah nice to see some suikoden 2 content in 2021
@jowston100
@jowston100 Жыл бұрын
Really good list. Agree with almost every selection.
@thecolorapplegreen
@thecolorapplegreen Жыл бұрын
This is one of my Favorites! Truly a GEM!
@ahmedkhamis3502
@ahmedkhamis3502 Жыл бұрын
great video !
@hitmangfx7162
@hitmangfx7162 10 ай бұрын
Trying to remember, but I know I made it a point to bring Hix and Tengaar along, plus Kasumi. I feel like I'm due for a replay, but might try a lower-tier build (monsters? Viki? hmmm). Because Flik and Victor were required in Suikoden 1 (in the front row!), I know I made it a point to use them as little as possible. Great video. I forgot about half of these characters!
@Boneidolfitness
@Boneidolfitness Жыл бұрын
Poor Tuta , I have set him up to be auto regening with mega medicines and mother earth on his weapon and the flowing rune , only because I like to create unique rune combinations on every character
@trustee2494
@trustee2494 Жыл бұрын
Hero - Shield, Mother Earth, Double Beat Victor - Double Beat, Fury (Rage on weapon) Flick - Double beat, Thunder Rune Killey - Double Beat, Double Strike, Fury Runes Sheena - Double Beat, Double Strike, Fury Runes Luc - Cyclone, Flowing, -doesnt matter This is extremely OP but if your having a hard time beating the end game boss then you can't lose with this set up 👍
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat Жыл бұрын
That's the same setup I had with Victor, along with trinkets to buff his strength. Dude was such a powerhouse
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK Жыл бұрын
😴😴😴😴😴
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK Жыл бұрын
😴😴😴😴😴
@trustee2494
@trustee2494 11 ай бұрын
@@SeventhheavenDK Yes it's definitely a boring end game party that can smoke the main boss easily....but it definitely isn't worth the time to grind to get the runes for this setup. It makes the game way too easy.
@MoonMagicks
@MoonMagicks Жыл бұрын
Great video!! I'm surprised Tai Ho was so low. I used him a lot because he was a returning character from the first game and thought he was cool.
@kingveelatte41
@kingveelatte41 2 жыл бұрын
Nice list! I always use Flik, Millie and Valeria. The other two slot always change like Kahn/Wakaba/Tengaar/Anita.
@user-gt9lh6bl5p
@user-gt9lh6bl5p Ай бұрын
i love that you included my fave character Millie ❤
@MiAmigoKier
@MiAmigoKier 2 жыл бұрын
Killey, Hai Yo, Chaco, Sid, and Sheena with double beat, double strike and fury rune 🔥🔥🔥
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK Жыл бұрын
Sheena is so annoying, he can stay in the bench forever even if he has 3 rune slots.
@ma70er
@ma70er Жыл бұрын
Almost March 2023... hoping those remasters come out soon!
@johangp1990
@johangp1990 2 ай бұрын
Like when there are so many awesome characters and u just have 6 spots on the party :v . BTW cant wait to try out Eiyuden Hundred Heroes, we are almost theeere just 5 days left 🤩
@ahs6821
@ahs6821 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully there will be good people who modify this game, I really hope there is a NEWGAME+ Because RPG games are not only about fighting the final boss, or the ultimate weapon, but you have to keep on playing them, even if you only get an achievement, I really hope that NEWGAME+
@dragonballzmaster11
@dragonballzmaster11 3 жыл бұрын
I always love seeing Suikoden content! This is useful as I've only played 2 once, when it came out on the PSN. Are you planning on doing the other 3 games? I would especially like to see one on S3.
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually yes. But these lists are insane.
@dragonballzmaster11
@dragonballzmaster11 3 жыл бұрын
@@locloudanerpg Great to hear! These Suikoden lists must take lots of time and effort so I can definitely be patient. I appreciate the reply!
@finallife87
@finallife87 2 жыл бұрын
@@locloudanerpg where would you rank jowy if you hack him back into the party?
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg 2 жыл бұрын
@@finallife87 Top tier probably
@noobmaster69686
@noobmaster69686 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that Valeria’s rune (sometimes) can be Critical Strike (up to 3000 damage) love his unite attack with Anita
@karlo9572
@karlo9572 10 ай бұрын
I never picked Valeria. I pick Kasumi because it’s easier to get the the ninjas later with her to enter ninja village
@LeeyosDen
@LeeyosDen 2 ай бұрын
You did Hix Dirty, He has the Exertion Rune which good in long battles. Just my opinion hehe. So far I like your list. Almost same as Mine
@jerongordon
@jerongordon 2 жыл бұрын
Now that its out and receiving mostly positive reviews, would you consider doing a who is best for Cristales? The dynamics of some of the characters in this game are WILD .
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg 2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t played it yet but I’ll put it on the list.
@pacdiesel6240
@pacdiesel6240 4 ай бұрын
Valeria in Top Tier.
@zeroforever5679
@zeroforever5679 9 ай бұрын
I used shiro and stallion most of the game so it’s interesting to see them where they are
@mafxarr8776
@mafxarr8776 Жыл бұрын
I’m ashamed to say I’m seeing some of these characters for the very first time 😂 didn’t know a lot of them even existed. One of the best games though. Loved it. Still have it stashed away somewhere at home.
@Princess_Francesca
@Princess_Francesca 3 жыл бұрын
Nice list, good to see some new Suikoden content. Some of your pronunciations could do with a bit of work though haha. XD
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg 3 жыл бұрын
Haha always.
@Keychan64
@Keychan64 2 жыл бұрын
@@locloudanerpg you forgot mcdogol from. S1
@midaBR
@midaBR 7 ай бұрын
nice video,but i did not understand what you said about " Clive ", what is the "multi hit"?
@aaronammann4236
@aaronammann4236 Ай бұрын
I remember having flik in my end game team for Suikoden 2 when I first played it. (Granted I didn't get all of the characters) so I'm planning on going through it again with the save data of Suikoden before I go again.
@flintironstag2381
@flintironstag2381 13 күн бұрын
Omg, its been around 20 years since I played suikoden 2. Ill have to play it again to even have an opinion 😊😊😊
@tehrzky
@tehrzky 2 жыл бұрын
my first playthrough (90s) these character wakaba,shiro, clive,sheena & hero are my core.
@reza_dailylife
@reza_dailylife 3 күн бұрын
I prefer to bring unique characters rather than strong ones. But this is a good video that tells us which characters have good potential. But I always leveling up all of them tho 😂
@ot7012
@ot7012 3 ай бұрын
I just finished the game again yesterday after so many years. Camus, Georg, Hix, Tengaar and McDohl was my party at the end. I didn't use rune attacks by the end because I liked seeing the high attack damage from having friendship, fury and double beat runes lol.
@ExWhizzy
@ExWhizzy 7 ай бұрын
Soon we can all enjoy the HD remaster and do it all over again :D great list btw. Only issue I have is the fact that both kasumi and valeria are hot af so I can never decide....whyyyyy????? xD
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg 7 ай бұрын
I’m team Kasumi all day long
@TheMixedPlateFrequency
@TheMixedPlateFrequency 10 ай бұрын
Wow, I never realized Sheena and few others were that good. Awesome video. I am wondering if the characters will get balanced out in the HD Remaster.
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg 10 ай бұрын
I hope not. It’s pretty fun as is because you choose your difficulty.
@BlackBirdOni
@BlackBirdOni 8 ай бұрын
Yeah Sheena and Killey are the strongest physical fighters in the game, with 3 free rune slots and free weapon slot.
@shivasthong4924
@shivasthong4924 7 ай бұрын
Of course Sheena is good! He's Lepant's son so you know he beat some skill into him.
@armorvil
@armorvil 2 ай бұрын
@@locloudanerpg As someone who likes to use the pretty girls (Meg & co), I hope so lol
@GerardoGomezAguilar
@GerardoGomezAguilar 7 ай бұрын
A pretty good list take ur +1 good man
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg 7 ай бұрын
No you’re a pretty good list you sexy subber you.
@freddyputera1865
@freddyputera1865 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best Suikoden 2 analysis I have known so far. Your objectivity in evaluating the characters is just on point, mate. I do not always go with the strongest characters, though. I always pick the best looking (Flik, Camus, Miklotov, Lorelai, Sierra, Rina) and the ones with the coolest looks (Killey, Clive, Pesmerga)
@fadedlobo
@fadedlobo 10 ай бұрын
Me and you. We are now friends.
@Zeioth
@Zeioth Жыл бұрын
Nanami with double attack rune and fury rune is by far the best character in game to me. It can attack up to 6 times with insane power, often ending the battle herself in one turn.
@KuyaJessTV
@KuyaJessTV Жыл бұрын
Same thing with Shiro he was a beast at Level 99 w/ same runes
@angelajiliagalvez
@angelajiliagalvez Жыл бұрын
U mean double beat rune?
@fcukyoubuthaveaniceday
@fcukyoubuthaveaniceday 10 ай бұрын
​@@KuyaJessTVshiro only have 1 rune slot
@kyzr666
@kyzr666 4 ай бұрын
I was going to say the same. I do that with Shiro. @@KuyaJessTV
@yosifebrian9397
@yosifebrian9397 3 ай бұрын
best for nanaminis spark rune man
@MuhammadArif-lp1gw
@MuhammadArif-lp1gw 2 жыл бұрын
My end party so simple. Rikimaru+Amada unite attack Kinnison+Shiro unite attack Hero (focus on support so i attached water and eart rune) Luc (focus on attack rune so i attached fire, lighting and wind)
@RighteousFiyah
@RighteousFiyah Жыл бұрын
I used Bob recently for a play through. Never knew he had an affinity for the darkness rune. Slapped that on him and he became an effective back row magic user
@777rando
@777rando Жыл бұрын
Did you try bob unite attack that deal 4x damage? With rabid rune, it produce kinda crazy damage.
@RighteousFiyah
@RighteousFiyah Жыл бұрын
@@777rando I gotta try that out
@denciolombos2510
@denciolombos2510 2 жыл бұрын
I never left Killey out of my line up til the end. Only disappointment is he doesn't have unite attack
@emzmaxwell8185
@emzmaxwell8185 2 жыл бұрын
Been playing this since the 90's , any character with 3 rune slot are high tiers :)
@ghastly_gaming690
@ghastly_gaming690 10 ай бұрын
Meg should be a high tier character. When equiped with killer and fury and use trick or miss can deal up to 4k+ damage
@MagnesVestergaard
@MagnesVestergaard 2 жыл бұрын
Georg has one open rune slot. He comes with a 'killer' rune, which can be removed.
@KuyaJessTV
@KuyaJessTV Жыл бұрын
Agree I changed it to fury and he was a beast
@donnytrogdon5455
@donnytrogdon5455 5 ай бұрын
Its actually kinda crazy how op the hero is in the game. It was so fun playung this game the first time and feeling like my main charecter was unstoppable
@Dbo61999
@Dbo61999 11 ай бұрын
My dude, Bob is a beast!! Figuratively and literally speaking. He is ass if you don’t transform but if you do… boss battles go by real quick
@Chrisc0930
@Chrisc0930 Жыл бұрын
Personally my end game party is flick, miklotov, camus, Riou (hero), mcdohl, and mazus. But I have also substituted miklotov for Oulan with fury rune on occasion. Either party never fails
@mattquartley4839
@mattquartley4839 6 ай бұрын
I always have Shin on my team, just counter his sub par defence with clay guardian and you have a dodging, critical dealing beast. I love Shin.
@twocent1611
@twocent1611 3 жыл бұрын
I have never played this game. That is an insane number of characters. We appreciate all of the hard work you put into these videos.
@andrejors9501
@andrejors9501 5 ай бұрын
The characters in the tier list is ONLY the characters you can use in battle.. there are also characters that you use in war (strategy mode) and there are characters who opened up shop & minigames in your base
@jm2270
@jm2270 Жыл бұрын
Good list but I think for Casters you missed affinities. So Millie is a great mage for example as she has 40% more damage with Fire and Lightning. Rina on the other hand has only normal damage for all of the damaging spell runes. For physical attackers 3 open rune slots is just better than 2 so I think you overvalued many physical attackers with good stat growth as they'll get outclassed damagewise.
@equipbasicsword
@equipbasicsword Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Sheena and Kahn are two characters that I was surprised at ranking them lower. They both have three rune slots and even Kahn with the Double Beat/Strike Fury combo is going to hit harder than a lot of other characters and has about the same str as Chaco.
@jm2270
@jm2270 Жыл бұрын
@@equipbasicsword Kahn can hit hard, yes, but he can't hit often. That is because his fixed weapon rune lowers his hit% by 15% which hurts him quite a bit and I'd rather build any other 3 slot character.
@equipbasicsword
@equipbasicsword Жыл бұрын
@@jm2270 My point was more that he has three rune slots, so I would pick him over Viktor for example. Characters with three rune slots just have a natural advantage over those who don't at least when it comes down to the physical runes.
@mattstorage7805
@mattstorage7805 6 ай бұрын
Millie is the best mage in the game, ans he downplayed her based on old biases against her.
@jm2270
@jm2270 6 ай бұрын
@@mattstorage7805 There's still characters like Mazus and Luc who are better. Millie is definitely A tier though but you wouldn't know it if you didn't know about affinities. I don't think the ranking was out of malice.
@marckevin203
@marckevin203 Жыл бұрын
I usually go with Riou with Blue Gate, Viktor with Killer Rune and Double Beat Rune, Flik Thunder Rune and Rage Rune, Tir or Kahn with Resurrection and Rage Rune, Rina with Flowing and Mother Earth Rune and Luc with Cyclone Rune & Blue Gate Rune
@vickyfarhan95
@vickyfarhan95 6 ай бұрын
- Nina is one of my favourite character in Suikoden 2, tbh (also with Sierra and Karen) - Sierra could be put in back row and focus on her rune - I give Karen earth-based rune and combining with her own rune
@TSD4027
@TSD4027 8 ай бұрын
Every playthrough I say I'm not going to use Viktor and Flik and try someone different, and every playthrough my nostalgia has me using them anyways.
@IczR1
@IczR1 2 жыл бұрын
cheers for even attempting this ^^ some things i wanna address though: command runes and unites (as well as magic) suck compared to auto-attacking in Suikoden 2, not only because they are slower to use but also because you don't get multi-attacks, (regular) critical hits, and iirc they don't factor in weapon runes (rage/thunder runes being an additional 50% elemental damage per normal attack) - Gantetsu is not low tier, one of the few characters w/ 3 rune slots, the worst one of them but still top 10 material - Kinnison isn't low tier, he's really good and 1 of the best 2-slot characters - same goes for Tsai - Millie isn't low tier, one of the weaker 2-slotters but any character that has 2 rune slots is automatically top half of the roster - Nina, 2 slots, solid - Ayda is NOT lower mid, one of the very best 2-slot characters, top 15 - same goes for Futch, almost as good as Ayda - Sierra is not lower mid, 2 rune slots, solid - Lorelei is not #31, top 15 - Hai Yo is not #24, he's the weakest of the top 6 but he's still top 6 if Luc isn't used w/ the kindness rune glitch (= giving him 999 ATK, making him the best character) - none of the 1-slot characters is anywhere close to top tier, Georg being the best but still can't compete w/ the top 15 - defense stats aren't relevant, a decent party will kill enemies in 1 turn, before they even act
@trinketmage8145
@trinketmage8145 Жыл бұрын
The thing about 3 Slot characters is that yes, they usually have a higher damage cap as well as slightly more utillity if they're fully kitted out. However that's only if you bother to kit them out. The first Double-Strike and Double-Beat runes are free so you'll always have one ace - which is incidentlly as many as you need. If you want redundant damage, well then have farming a 2% drop rate. Clives and Viktors, and Valeria's, etc, are all high tier characters because they do their jobs effectively with almost no investment at all.
@IczR1
@IczR1 Жыл бұрын
@@trinketmage8145 since this is a tier list, the relevant thing is what characters are capable of doing at their max potential do you NEED a full party of 3-slot characters? absolutely not, even a party of 6 2-slot characters is overkill (3 fast ones might be enough to 1-turn the majority of battles) but still, a character like Ayda (2 slots, and good stats to get the most out of multi-hitting w/ a decent crit chance) will always be a better party member than Valeria (using her command rune), if you set her up appropriately, same goes for other 2-slot characters w/ similar potential (Kinnison, Futch, Lorelei, ...), there's a good number to choose from too Double Beat and Double Strike runes are not that hard to get, you only need 6 of each (i like to get more though, to make switching between characters easier) Fury Runes are a bit harder to get, but you only really need one for each 3-slot character you plan on having in your party grinding Rage / Thunder runes to put into weapon slots is optional, i'd only bother when planning to down the harder bosses in 1 turn w/ non-top-tier characters Suikoden 2 really is as simple as that: a little bit of grinding, then speed though all battles by auto-attacking your way to victory ^^
@trinketmage8145
@trinketmage8145 Жыл бұрын
@@IczR1 I guess the first sentence is where we disagree then. The Valeria VS Ayda argument contextualizes perfectly. With Ayda, you need to go out of your way multiple time to even recruit her, let alone equip her, so her maximum potential is gatekept by tedium. With Valeria you get the choice between her and Kasumi at very close to their full power for free. At a leisurely pace the game takes what, 20 hours to complete? And farming for a 2% drop can take two hours, or a whopping 10% of that. What's even the point of spending two hours farmining if your big dick number chracters and hot tiddy comand rune users are already steamrolling everything?
@trinketmage8145
@trinketmage8145 Жыл бұрын
@@IczR1 Suppose there was a hypothetical character that always went first, and always dealt a bajillion damage to every enemy on screen. Now suppuse to recruit this character you first needed every other character to reach level 99. Would she be God tier or trash?
@IczR1
@IczR1 Жыл бұрын
@@trinketmage8145 thing is, a character like Ayda would already be better than a command rune user the moment you give them a Double Beat rune + a common elemental rune in the weapon slot, because multi-hits and crits are a thing, esp. w/ above average stats, and there's bonus elemental damage every hit Double Beat runes you pretty much get during the first hour of the game, and you fight 6 of the enemy that drop it at a time, so the chance of getting one per fight (which is quick) is much higher than 2% and elemental runes to put in the weapon are common, doesn't have to be Rage / Thunder runes, common ones still add 25% damage per hit Double Strike runes can be farmed in Kobold Forest, still pretty early, and probably less work for the majority of people than recruiting all the kobolds ^^ (which is much less beneficial too) all that is NO comparison to the hypothetical example you gave ^^ there actually is a character like that, somewhat, Luc, who would hypothetically be the best character if you abuse a glitch w/ the Kindness rune (making his ATK 999), but this needs to be maintained and is a bit of work so i'd put him as a wildcard (like i would an extremely skill-based character w/ potential that not many people could tap into), and would at least mention this when doing a tier list, because, believe it or not, some people WOULD try and do this ^^ fully exploring a game you love w/ all it's mechanics is not a bad thing, i'd actually encourage people to try everything out for themselves, at the end of the day it gives you more options to enjoy the game Ayda is easy to get iyam, and why wouldn't you recruit her, getting all 108 stars is a major draw of the game, gotta catch them all! plus she comes w/ Feather, 2 in 1 go! and it doesn't need to be Ayda specifically, like i said there's a sizable number of good characters to choose from, e.g. Kinnison, or Eilie and Rina, who you get easily and super-early Valeria or Kasumi is actually a tough choice iyam, half of the players might not even choose Valeria (i didn't until my 2nd run) and i'd say the game is more about 50h long at a leisurely pace, Suikoden 1 is close to 20h, maybe you're thinking of that?
@killerb255
@killerb255 7 ай бұрын
I'd like to see a tier list for characters in Suikoden 1 (more challenging because there are no busted multi-rune setups) and 3.
@mattstorage7805
@mattstorage7805 6 ай бұрын
No one plays Snoozekoiden 3.
@sharebear421
@sharebear421 9 ай бұрын
A run with only vampires, werewolf’s, winged characters etc could be cool
@stevecampbell9670
@stevecampbell9670 Жыл бұрын
Shiro is very useful until about half way and is one of the better characters available when you go undercover at the school.
@jonmcknight18
@jonmcknight18 Жыл бұрын
Oh definitely you should probably take him and Luc but I like Luc so I might be biased but throw on the blue gate rune and his pale palace cleans house
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK Жыл бұрын
​@@jonmcknight18. Luc in Greenhill is so unnecessary, he only makes the area more tedious. It's easier to just hit the auto battle button to clear the mobs than to wait Luc's animation to finish in every battle.
@uberfiend2544
@uberfiend2544 Жыл бұрын
Like the idea but perhaps a longer discussion on each character. Tier list are good listen in videos.
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg Жыл бұрын
Think of it as a conversation starter. Thanks for the support!
@alexevora8557
@alexevora8557 Жыл бұрын
@@locloudanerpg what rune do you suggest for clive? Killer or Double Beat?
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg Жыл бұрын
@@alexevora8557 killer though a spark rune is also a good tactic.
@user-pw2wg3xk6i
@user-pw2wg3xk6i Жыл бұрын
surprisingly for me , the best character if we include glitch , is Rina , when she joins at level 19 , we can bring her to matilda to get 3 rune slots , then when kobold has been unlocked , we can get double beat , double strike , and fury on her , with kindness rune minus affection get her to 999 attack (kill her 10 times with fire lizard) she can solo every boss starting from our first castle , minus the double strike rune every first time characters you recruit before fall of muse can get to lv 80 and every lv 20-29 character after that can get to level 64-68 before we recruit matilda knights
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg Жыл бұрын
Whoa. Do you have a vid of that glitch?!
@user-pw2wg3xk6i
@user-pw2wg3xk6i Жыл бұрын
@@locloudanerpg kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2S0hmiBr6xnq80 not mine tho.. i found it few days ago
@Fogship
@Fogship 8 ай бұрын
​​@@locloudanerpgtbh im amazed you can make this vid without knowing the glitch 😂 i even know that glitch in my first gameplay where internet wasnt that common. Just by my rpg instinct No wonder mostly i disagree with the list. In the video you said phys wins over magic but you put mages that has locked runeslot in the high tier 😅 Edit: oh btw, all the animal chars are great early game. Shiro for example. Their natural STR are high. In the late game tho, they are trash simply because they dont have weapons. No extra STR and no weapon rune. It means alot if you can deal 7k (crit) per hit (means 3,5k extra dmg) Since this is an old video, i really appreciate the content but maybeeee try to understand the game better since you are making tier list based on their usefulness
@dorping_Wolf
@dorping_Wolf 9 ай бұрын
if i want to have a "broken strong op" team at the end, i always go for Anita and Valeria. the falcon runes are just to good. doing double damage is the same as using double beat. with the benefit of not being counter able. (+ getting countered while using double beat is the worst that can happen... especially in the Luca fight) not to mention the falcon crit multiplier (x5) that outpaces the missing 3rd runeslot.
@Pixiedust8399
@Pixiedust8399 Жыл бұрын
Meg has an A rating with the Lightning rune and Wind rune (hits for 40% more damage) so not sure why she's so low on your list.
@rolanalberto3064
@rolanalberto3064 8 ай бұрын
Yes, 100% AGREE to the top Stars of the game--technically Tir a "bonus" cameo character...but I DO agree, his stats are basically just like Killey's if unlocked (and if you have the best gear equipped from S1, since it will reflect in S2) But yeah, Killey and Sheena are the absolute GOD tiers (with Riou of course) because what makes the first 2 games great: Character Customization. Killey and Sheena are pretty much the No.2 and 3 next to No.1 Riou basically. They just have the best stats, all slots can be obtained (except for B.Shield on Riou), better if you grind the hell outta them with the Fortune Rune, and their RNG crit-rate is gonna be nasty! Especially when setup with the Fury-D.Strike-D.Beat Runes on those 2 killers in party. They can easily plow through L'Renouille without breaking a sweat.
@ridewild1956
@ridewild1956 10 күн бұрын
The octopus actually poses the problem.Because it prevents you from getting all one hundred and eight heroes
@Namorat
@Namorat 4 ай бұрын
Is this list missing one of the bandits or am I missing something?
@kea7119
@kea7119 2 жыл бұрын
Any plan to do Suikoden 3? It was my favorite. xD
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
@kea7119
@kea7119 2 жыл бұрын
@@locloudanerpg YAY!! ^-^
@mrsocko316
@mrsocko316 6 ай бұрын
I feel like giving bonus points to useful characters in war battles should be included in this list. Some of the characters who are in the lower tiers could easily be elevated because of what they can do in the war battles.
@TheNeoLoneWolf
@TheNeoLoneWolf Жыл бұрын
I hope you get to Suikoden 3 eventually since its the only one I've actually played, lol
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg Жыл бұрын
We’ll get there eventually!
@DracoOoOoOo
@DracoOoOoOo 9 ай бұрын
Front line: George, humphry, Persmaga? Back row: hero, usually two mages( usually Tengar and one other.). It's been so long since I made it to end game it's hard to remember lol.
@nars4432
@nars4432 Ай бұрын
George Prime my absolute favourite suikoden character . He is probably by far the best melee fighter who ever existed in suikoden history. But although absloutely op in melee his cryptonite is magic which makes him so balanced after all.
@dannylim95adl27
@dannylim95adl27 2 жыл бұрын
My end game team have all the tiers 😅😅😅 Hero, Flik, Camus, Miklotov (These 4 are always in the party) Stallion (due to his fixed rune) The last one is a variety of people e.g Kinnison, Clive, Meg, Rina, Millie, Simone or Tengaar
@UnosofManila
@UnosofManila 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video but honestly you can beat any boss in this game with any character of your choosing.
@NickG8420
@NickG8420 3 жыл бұрын
Viktor is God Tier until late game when he really starts to fall flat stat wise. Suikoden 1 he was not that great. He had horrible accuracy and is really unusuable without the clone rune. I hated being forced to use him since I then had to choose between Pesmerga and others for my 3rd frontliner.
@alvin081988
@alvin081988 18 күн бұрын
Mazus and Pesmerga is a must have in your Party
@willlamme1988
@willlamme1988 2 жыл бұрын
Most of these are spot on but Zamza with fire sealing on should at least be upper mid tier, the double damage and unlimited rune use for first half of game is pretty stout.
@trinketmage8145
@trinketmage8145 Жыл бұрын
I concur. He'll deal less than a Fury+Double Beat user, but unless you've farmed for years you'll only have the one Fury+Double Beat user. Shoryuken!
@FlorisGerber
@FlorisGerber Жыл бұрын
Zamza is really great when you get him, and can be used til endgame. I agree completely.
@HakaseYuki
@HakaseYuki 6 ай бұрын
The misspellings tick me off 😅
@amalaspina
@amalaspina 2 ай бұрын
When can we expect the Eiyuden Chronicle tier list?
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg 2 ай бұрын
Late July most likely. I’ll try to get it done sooner.
@amalaspina
@amalaspina 2 ай бұрын
@@locloudanerpg I'm looking forward to it
@LaGiniComenta
@LaGiniComenta 8 ай бұрын
I always go with Nina and Flik to the final battle because their combo attack is one of the best in the game xD (also, she has a very good defense. At least she never dies when is in my party) Luc tho... he dies very quickly. I like his powers (and him hahaha), but it's very difficult to place and to use (he's a mage, but he is uppfront, so you have to choose between making him use magic all the time or just die xD!) My final team is always: Riou, Tir, Flik, Camus, Miklotov and Nina. That way I can use all of their combos (4 in total, using Nina-Flik when Miklotov is unbalance and viceversa) and their runes (I find Camus' rune one of the best :_D)
@kyzr666
@kyzr666 4 ай бұрын
Luc is useless for physical Attacks. You can just let him defend and do nothing. But he shines in boss fights with his powerful magic. Put him in the back and wait until boss fights.
@fancywaffles
@fancywaffles 3 жыл бұрын
My end game for suiko 2 is hero, flik, Victor, rina, eilie, and the last spot changes around. Wakaba usually, but sometimes tengaar if I want another magic user.
@SpanishFly120
@SpanishFly120 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Wakaba is really good. I know I actually didn't use Killey much, so it wasn't until afterwards that I found out how busted he was.
@fancywaffles
@fancywaffles 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpanishFly120 I had never tried using Killey til the last time I played, and he is really good. But I cant help but stick to the same party mostly. I get attached.
@seigeheim3247
@seigeheim3247 2 жыл бұрын
For me; All playable characters units are the best as long as they got extra rune slot for *Double Beat Rune* ; This Rune is the farmable in early game as well
@noobmaster69686
@noobmaster69686 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah,, as a player on early game, i’m patiently farm Double Beat Rune at North Sparrow Pass, it takes 2 hours to collect (at least 5 Double Beat Rune) from Rabbit opponent’s
@jonathancruz5486
@jonathancruz5486 2 жыл бұрын
My party should always include Oulan with the rune that gives berserk and Shiro with double beat
@aditbagaskara1454
@aditbagaskara1454 8 ай бұрын
how come u forget about Killey (with fury and double beat) almost single handedly L'Renouille boss lol
@daniellomas5389
@daniellomas5389 Жыл бұрын
My endgame was Hero, Flik, Viktor, Kahn Sierra, Luc Mainly because I just stick to, mainly, the party I was forced to use at Tinto.
@trinketmage8145
@trinketmage8145 Жыл бұрын
Personally I'd bump up Tsai to low mid tier. Early game he's at least as solid as most of your other options, but unlike most he also unlocks a second rune slot as low as level 20.
@MelficeCyrum
@MelficeCyrum 5 ай бұрын
I think you missed Kahn. My endgame team was Hero, Tir, Viktor, Flick, Kahn, and Pesmerga. I didn't realize Killey was*that* good!
@xainudin108
@xainudin108 3 ай бұрын
Ah, the age-old debate among Suikoden II fans! 🌟 Crafting a tier list is always a challenge with such a diverse cast of characters, each with their own strengths and quirks. I'd love to hear your thoughts on who tops the list and why. It's the unique strategies and personal experiences that make these discussions so enriching. Let's dive into the analysis and celebrate the depth of Suikoden II's roster! 🎮🏆
@user-ko9qo7ud1l
@user-ko9qo7ud1l 8 ай бұрын
Hi where can i Download Suikoden 2??
@linggaviekas5637
@linggaviekas5637 Жыл бұрын
Woaa how did i get the mc suikoden I ?
@metalboigames
@metalboigames Ай бұрын
Someone prob already put this, but it's for sure Freed Y (Yamamoto), not Freedy.
@Camobwoi
@Camobwoi Жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what the second game in the intro is? The one after three houses
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg Жыл бұрын
Time and Eternity. You sub yet?
@Camobwoi
@Camobwoi Жыл бұрын
Seeming as Ive just watched all your Suikoden tier lists I've kind of got to, you should do the rest though!
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg Жыл бұрын
@@Camobwoi planning on 3 or 1 soon. Welcome to the Fam!
@arnoldgee5915
@arnoldgee5915 2 жыл бұрын
I beat the final boss with only viktor (exertion, double beat, violence + battle oath) as damage dealer, others only defend and Riou healing
@-Samus-Aran-
@-Samus-Aran- Жыл бұрын
Werewolf Bob with Double Beat Rune, Fury Rune, and Exertion Weapon rune is a force to be reckoned with but I guess anyone would be. Maybe I just like having a werewolf teammate with health regen.
@sayyidashqar5717
@sayyidashqar5717 Жыл бұрын
Hai, what's the name of the game on the intro?
@locloudanerpg
@locloudanerpg Жыл бұрын
Fire emblem, time and eternity and dragons crown.
@chrisfallen7547
@chrisfallen7547 Ай бұрын
Pesmerga, Georg, Hero, Suikoden 1 hero (yes, you can get him in Suikoden 2) with Viktor/Flik for nostalgia.
@paffyjr9446
@paffyjr9446 Ай бұрын
Where is jowy here?
@thaironecampos1380
@thaironecampos1380 Жыл бұрын
Me again. Well... Georg Prime, OMG! There is a powerfully tanker/damager. He is like that movie guy more stronger than the main hero what have much large battle experience but came to help on final scene just for hero do the final strike on villain. Sorry for my english
@tockutocku
@tockutocku 10 ай бұрын
what about jowy?
@AFellowDoktuh
@AFellowDoktuh 10 ай бұрын
Forever my favorite characters will always be Victor and Flint.
@josephgranada7025
@josephgranada7025 2 жыл бұрын
lest gooooooooooooooooo 2021
@toadsage7328
@toadsage7328 Жыл бұрын
Poor Tuta 😢 hey he can heal youuu. Muku team is cute
@fizzdoodle9666
@fizzdoodle9666 2 жыл бұрын
I usually just use my fave character since riou is the most useful one anyways XD. I usually pick Killey, Sierra, Shiro and Valeria since they are my fave but good to know they're not on shit tier. I'm surprised Killey can be op. I just liked him because of his design.
@SunburstGuitarsDan
@SunburstGuitarsDan 5 ай бұрын
The squirels deserve a higher tier... Crazy strong at high leves, fast and their unite atack can one shot bosses. Kinda funny making Luca Blight flying away from battle
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