Loft conversion part 19 - Lead valleys, lead soakers & slating the dormer roof

[@Beefypvp]

Mate idk if you read the comments but I just want to say I've got so much respect and appreciation for you. Really down to earth helpful and informative stuff that makes others' lives better. Your kind of content is the lifeblood of the internet

[@mjw1404mw]

You're doing a bloody good job on this. It's dangerous watching these vids cos I keep thinking maybe I can re do the slates on my own roof cos you make it look so easy!

[@Kelsdoggy]

Really impressive stuff here! Thanks for taking the time to film and share

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Thanks for the feedback David.

[@korffy10]

Hey mate, thanks for all the videos. Some interesting comments on here. I personally enjoy the videos and find them informative. Whether or not everything you do is 100% correct, I can rely on the comments to guide me, or take or leave any information that I don't need or agree with. Cheers

[@jons6125]

Yeah name a house that is built 100% perfectly and that two different builders or trades would agree. New builds should have no excuse but they are the worst.

[@callsignprofessor]

Ive been watching all the parts and I really enjoy it! Not sure why people are hating so much, not fair to piss on a DIY'er doing an awesome job. Because there's so much 'feedback' perhaps its good to have a look at it or let a roofer inspect it real quick so you won't have to do repairs soon. Keep it up!!

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

The roof has been on for over 5 years and not so much as a drop of water through. Unfortunately roofers are taught by other roofers, who were taught by other roofers. Always done it one way so they think it's the only way. The only work I've had done by roofers in the past has been poor. Now that's not to say that there aren't very good roofers, but sadly most of the people spurting this out are probably apprentices with 2 years experience, never owned their own house so have probably never been back to check on their own work. My house, my way! 😂 Thanks for watching 👍

[@JJ-jh6hz]

Just a tip for you, if the valley is longer than 1.5 metres then the lead should be cut and overlapped to avoid splitting due to expansion

[@jayburton9878]

Was jyst about to comment the same. I cut mine at 1.2mtrs. Always be mindful of exp and contraction. Happy Roofing!

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Yes, I'm aware of that but as this was just over I left it and only nailed it near the top to avoid it cracking if it expands. Thanks for the info though good advice.

[@shaunlucas3810]

Also if doing a lead valley, Don't put lead on the felt, cause sweat and condensation. Cut the felt, lead on boards (or underlay) lap the cut felt over the lead. Personally I'd also have a welt, but done alright none the less 👍🏻

[@Toyotaamazon80series]

Around 4-1/2' is perfect, any longer and the lead will pull itself down off the roof over time, 🔨🇮🇪

[@xusedteabagx]

Man, I could watch this all day. Inspiring

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Thanks very much.

[@markwillis3349]

Fantastic work looking forward to seeing the finished project.

[@asroofingservices]

Well done Pouse for DIY and considering its your own house and actually yourself a few thousands of quid overall well done 👍 you might inspire a few people to get of their ass.

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Thanks for the comment. Yes my house, so I know it's not perfect but hopefully water tight! Seems to be holding up well 2 years on and it's seen some bad weather! Thanks for watching.

[@michaelwalter6937]

I noticed that this was filmed in September, does that mean that the loft conversion is complete and you’re just finishing off the editing of your videos?

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Outside is finished and inside is half done, but yes I'm behind on the editing!

[@michaelwalter6937]

POUSE around the HOUSE I’m looking forward to the rest of the videos.

[@wilfredwilde9559]

When you do stuff like the lead soakers in your clips can you do some of it on normal speed please.Hard to see with the fast forward.Good clips

[@bobmartin5101]

nice work.

[@jonfowell9045]

love the vidoes mate

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Thanks for the kind words Jon.

[@ollieollie5512]

You need to batten up the valley like you did with the hip to stop the lead from sagging

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

My vally board (under the lead) butts up to the battens at the same height so it wont sag. Thanks for the comment!

[@Ajwatters]

How come you used small pieces of lead for dormer, could you not use one long piece?

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

You need to use soakers on slate because slate is flat to avoid water getting under the lead and down the join where roof pitch meets dormer wall. The upturn is later covered over with vertical slate cladding. On tiles, they inter lock with grooves so water can't penetrate through, so you can do as you mentioned in that scenario.

[@shaunlucas3810]

I've seen 'professional' roofers do worse. So as DIY jobs go, you done ok 👍🏻

[@davidmathews2219]

is that it no number 20.whos the music by?

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Music - the elephant rescue plan and there are plenty more vids to come. I will show them right to the end even if it takes me to video 360!

[@paulhinkley11]

You haven't folded the lead in the valley for a welt

[@lynngardiner227]

That’s going to leak lol

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

3 years on and it's still fine so sorry to say it's superb. Not a trickle. Thanks for watching.

[@nb2211]

I could be wrong but i think you've put your slate on upside down. Probably not what you want to hear after slating in a roof and dormer. Id be interested to know if you've had any leaks. If not i guess its all good.

[@bp8092]

Is this a wind up?! Why would you think that?!

[@nb2211]

@@bp8092 Generally i think slates and tiles get nailed at the top so there are no exposed nail holes to the elements. I could be wrong as i'm not a roofer. I am a roofing carpenter however and i can't ever remember having seen a slate/ tile nailed at the bottom like that before. I live in Manchester tho so it could be that you guys do it differently over your way. Maybe if you live in area with high winds it might make sense.

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Not entirely sure what you mean, but it maybe that we are using fibre cement slates which require 2 nail fixings and then a copper disc rivet at the bottom to hold the bottom of the slate down to avoid wind lift. They come pre-drilled with all 3 holes. Maybe this is what you thought was the nail at the bottom?

[@garethheathcote4988]

NB I'm a master carpenter from Manchester, you can't beat a day doing traditional roofing joinery can you. 👍🙂

[@urbanbuild1]

Bahahahahaha that’s hilarious.....upside down .... 🤣🤣🤣 that comment is funnier than this roofing job ....

[@iWatchAlotOfThings]

Not bad, no welt on the valley and how come you dont stepflash your stack?

[@user-qv9dw1kq3q]

Found your vids think there great, where abouts are you? Would want a quote for work if your close enough, if not some help on knowing what kind of price I should have to pay for a standard pitch roof...flat roof coming off that and a smaller pitch roof coming off the utility room, think all tradesmen should do what your doing, see your knowledgeable about building in general and always do a nice job

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Thanks for the comment. This is just DIY, I don't do it for a living sorry. Best of luck with the project.

[@i.mboring1524]

Mate stay away from the slating, everything you’ve done on the roof is wrong, lead works a disaster, front apron always goes on before the soakers and your drilling holes way too far into the slates, only thing stopping that from leaking at the minute is the felt

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

If you watch my other vids you'll know I slipped tge soakers over the lead tray afterwards. I did it this way purely as it was the order I had to doi it working alone and over a longer period of time. As for the rest of the rood, you say its bad, it's seen some pretty bad weather for the last 3 years and not so much as a weep, but if you say it's only the membrane stopping it from leaking, then just as well I used membrane hey? 😉 👍

[@i.mboring1524]

@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE you should always dress the lead around the corners, you never cut it flush and try turn soakers around it, it’s a disaster waiting to happen, I’ve came across lots of roofs in my time that have been done badly and yes they lasted a good few years but eventually it will leak and leak badly, and yes you were lucky you have used good membrane, Tyvek is very expensive but worth the money

[@iangillie82]

If you are a diy’er how do you know all this? I’m keen to know where you’re getting your information from? Thanks Great videos! Can’t help but chuckle when comments appear from “supposed” veterans giving the usual BS with no real guidance of best methods….

[@ianhoare289]

The valley is wrong should not be on the battens and should be welted you're storing up problems for the future.

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

I used a wider bit of lead than required so not sure what problems I've stored up but thanks for the info and thanks for watching.

[@chrismilton2840]

Lead work is terrible no vallery boards should do front apron before soakers give up if I was you

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

It's DIY, I had to do it in this order and the soakers makes no different going on before apron as I tucked it into the right place so no difference what soever. Giving up half way through a roof installation is probably not a good idea! Thanks for watching.

[@dominicjacob1573]

That lead 🙈🤦🏽‍♂️

[@bryandyson5308]

Shit lead work

[@garethheathcote4988]

Mate I'm sorry but that valleys too long for a single length of lead, the longest a single piece should be is 1.2 metre,s otherwise it will rip with the expansion and contraction

[@iulianpitiruti4803]

1.4

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

I agree, yest it was just over 1.5m. I only nailed it near the top to help reduce cracking in the event of expansion or contraction. You're right about the welts but I used a much wider piece of lead than recommended and three years on it seems to be holding strong. Thanks for the feedback.

[@clivefox5072]

I hate to say it, but i feel you should not be roofing, i follow you video's, not to pull them apart but have generally interest on what you do, unfortunately the slate roof has so many no no's. It is incorrect from start to finish and after 35 years of roofing i can honestly say its one of the worst i seen. It would have been much better to have a good roofer behind the scene guiding you. Real shame because your other work is great.

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

It'd be good if you could elaborate? It would appear roofers don't even agree with each other on how to do a roof. Roofers always seem vocal when it comes to saying how bad it is but never reply when I ask for a break down of what's so incorrect. The roof has been doing it's job for over a year now, not one weep around windows, flashing or valleys after some of the worst rain I've seen in years. I havent got the plasterboard on yet so I can see if theres a problem. Doing a project on this scale myself I might do things in a different order to roofers and obviously slower but not sure what is so terrible about it. Thanks for the comments and thanks for watching.

[@jons6125]

If one of the worst you’ve seen is 100% water tight 2 years on you must have spent 35 years working on roofs with your eyes shut?

[@MrBillfox13]

35 years with eyes wide open, you are definitely not roofer, look at front lead apron, look at lead in valley, over sized, no correct lay out of timber to valley, nothing stops water under slate, back tracking, no eave or 5u protection, wrong nails, I can go on and on. So don't try and tell a real roofer to suck eggs. If your going to put videos on, make sure you know what your talking about. And yes it should last more than 2 years, my roofs last a lifetime and there is no way in this world yours will.

[@johnallen6487]

Clive if the truth is known pouse’s roof is far better than yours and ur just jealous lol, I’m not an electrician, builder, decorator, chippy, it don’t for one second mean I can’t wire a socket up, build a wall, decorate a room nor build a fence or shed, I can do all those things. Just because I don’t have your 35 years experience is neither here nor there

[@clivefox5072]

@@johnallen6487 your talking crap mate, sorry but you are

[@Starman3539]

This comment has nothing to do with your abilities as a builder. I have followed your videos which I find interesting, however, you ought to know that people that watch your videos are doing so to see and hear what you do. Regrettably, the latter is badly impaired by the loud music that you play (it should only be a low level supplement to the main subject which is what your title states i.e. "Loft Conversion") plus the inferior microphone that you use. If you could correct these points people might find following you much more interesting/pleasant.

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Yes fair enough. The software I used wasn't great and you're right, camera was cheap but then the videos are for free! I recently upgraded my camera so fingers crossed the quality will improve. Thanks you for your feedback.

[@rickphillips5098]

Just terrible ! What a mess ! Seriously what's your real tade ?

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Thanks for the feedback Rick!

[@rickphillips5098]

If your going to make a video please actually know what your doing ! You are not a roofer and you should have not made a video as a ego trip to generate work when your not a roofer !! Your video was off a DIY WEEKEND WARRIOR ! Fingers crossed for anyone who gets you to do there roof ..

[@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE]

Hi Rick, this is my house, no ego here. I don't do building work as a day job, this is purely me filming my loft conversion. That said Thanks, two years later the roof is bone dry and doing a great job. Thanks for the feedback.

[@ljones396]

...if only your grasp on grammar was as inspiring as your presumptuous attitude, Rick.

[@rickphillips5098]

Thank you my teacher was completely correct! I have dyslexia, but I know about a roof . I've been doing roofs for 27 years and my father for 48 years before he retired last year. Being honest I just don't hope you get this virus at this moment in time or anyone you know ! Good luck

[@ljones396]

@@rickphillips5098 why watch this video then? And why comment with such an arsey, presumptuous comment? I don't even know Pouse, but as far's I'm aware; it's his own house and hats off to him for his dedication and hands on approach, that should be applauded not shot down. Now, more than ever, try not to be an arse publicly. Stay safe.

[@jons6125]

@@ljones396 I am dyslexic too but i still think ricks original comment makes him sound like an arse.