Logic Pro Just Changed The Game! (New Pitch Correction & Mastering)

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[@unfazedree-officialchannel]

definitely the update logic needed, helps the creative process even more and helps making professional sounding music at home easier

[@everestproductions12]

Wish they would add an internal key finder 😭

[@hunter3653]

What i do is chop up the first few seconds of the beat usually where the chord plays and put it in Quick Sampler and itll kinda show you the Root Note. Its not always right but helps start looking for it 😂

[@austinduran3557]

use scaler - drop the audio inside the plugin

[@im_lucky3977]

Metering>Tuner, it acts like a key finder

[@Baywood]

Tbh it’s usually the first note of the main bass note and then set into minor. But I’m sure they are working on a key finder because it would only make sense to have it

[@Rhythmandosyche]

There is a section within logic menu for suggestion submissions.

[@Lifeisripe]

The fullness of the track when you was bypassing was so amazing I can’t wait to drop my next song

[@geoffgrimwood9429]

Just want to compliment your preparation, clarity, concision, and efficiency, in really effectively explaining what these two things do, what they're for, and how to use them. Well done sir!

[@Baywood]

Glad it was helpful!

[@myriaddsystems]

It seems preparation is nearly everything

[@realcire]

Very well done indeed! You got right to the point, kept it simple and clear on what each plugin does. Too many people talk way too much and one has to fast forward at least 30 seconds to a minute to get to the actual content. Thanks for your video!

[@Baywood]

Thank you so much! All my videos I like to get straight to the point , I hate wasting peoples time 😂

[@josephalim]

Thank you for explaining it. Could not find any videos showing the new pitch correction until your video came up 🙌

[@ALTN8NRG]

Great video! This is sooo needed for Logic. I didn't know about the Auto Tune feature. The Mastering is good!

[@Baywood]

thanks for the kind words!

[@Baywood]

If you want to see me mix a full song using these new updates subscribe to the channel! Will be coming out in a few days 🙌 ✅ SUBSCRIBE - vocalsauce.com/subscribe Please note this video was not to show you how to make something sound professional. I did this quickly to show the updated pitch correction and mastering assistant. I believe the mastering assistant is great but you should also master first and use the assistant after to see if it improves your song or not. I have plenty of in depth vocal mixing and mastering tutorials if you’re interested in more 🔥

[@kingcamofficial]

Can’t wait to watch this after work thank you bro deff catch up soon

[@Baywood]

Hope you enjoy!

[@TheUrbab]

Nice review, Im gonna buy this bad boy now!

[@PrisonLaParis]

Awesome video bro 🔥🔥🔥

[@OfficialStevenCravis]

Great video *Baywood Audio* ! I bet Match EQ before the Mastering plug in would be good too. I hope Apple will add ability to emulate reference tracks, at least their EQ curve.

[@Baywood]

That would be cool!

[@AshleySimoneMusic]

Thank you for this , now I just gotta upgrade to the next model cuz I have the one right before the put out the chip with apple silicon and it’s needed for the full effects in the master . But the clean is just mind blowing alone !!

[@Baywood]

Yes the silicon chips are amazinggggg. I just got the M3 Max . Just upgraded from the M1 pro

[@SmilusMusic]

Great update and tut!

[@RDOCofficial]

Great video man! Keep putting this content out!

[@Baywood]

Thanks! Will do!

[@Jerretje]

You make good video's allot to learn. I am a pro tools based person and just like a week ago started with logic pro, im setting up my plugins at this moment i also never worked on mac book pro..so im kinda in the jungle right now.. thanks for making these videos.

[@Baywood]

macs are simple by design! if you ever need help with any aspect of this world, send over a message to [e-mail]

[@JoeBouchardRockStar]

Great presentation. Well done. Mastering assistant definitely is a GAME CHANGER!

[@Baywood]

Absolutely!

[@sp8m8]

Nice update overview, cheers 😁

[@Baywood]

Thanks 👍

[@myriaddsystems]

Exactly what I was looking for THANKS!

[@Baywood]

Glad I could help!

[@scarmmbr]

currently working on album doing all myself, thanks bro bro

[@elfromthabay1989]

Logic needs plugin search,stems search, Ghost notes, stems separation, chord track and preview midi files

[@skrypture1162]

So it basically needs to be Fl? 😂😂

[@elfromthabay1989]

@skrypture1162 No, what I'm saying is they should have them features because other DAWs have them too

[@JabiRSmith]

@@skrypture1162 in a nutshell

[@Skrenja]

Don't forget an actual decent multiband compressor with width control on individual bands. Also, a "Soothe" style plugin would be great.

[@JoostTechno]

Good one!!

[@therealoneal1]

That mastering sound 🔥 I miss having logic, might have to run it back

[@Baywood]

I was impressed as well

[@turtlefeet7722]

Very cool update. I might need it but I’m sticking with my portico II.

[@lavinchi6709]

Thank you!!!!SUPER Logic10.8!!!

[@kaidoChess]

What a great update for vocals !!!

[@Baywood]

Agreed!

[@DolfMuccillo]

great video! How do you decide whether to use Pitch Correction vs. FlexPitch?

[@Baywood]

Use both!

[@dafingaz]

Epic!

[@jairedrob]

This is so amazing. Proud Logic user

[@justinleggett5048]

sounds fire

[@Baywood]

Thank you

[@tomjeppesen4106]

Nice video. Just remember to set True peak to -2db if you master to normal standard around -7db LUFS for streaming.

[@tripleex__]

Love the update

[@Jerretje]

oh yeah.........subbed :)

[@gods_astronaut]

been trying use the mastering feature on old production but it's not showing up on old beats - any help ???????

[@cedricdeherdt9]

Nice vid! I would love to see how to rap in key yk:)

[@TheRyanKellner]

To clarify, there are 3 reasons I can think of to still use Antares Artist/Pro versions (from what I can see): 1. Logic’s pitch correction does not have a low latency mode. This means while recording, there is latency when monitoring. Logic’s “low latency mode” 95% of the time turns pitch correction off. 2. I have found the “Flex-Tune” knob on the artist & pro versions of antares incredibly useful; especially when trying to make higher retune speeds sound natural. As far as I can tell, the “tolerance knob” on the new logic pitch correction acts more like the “humanize” knob in Antares. This essentially looks like Autotune EFX with no “low latency” functionality for live tracking. 3. Antares has the signature algorithm and sound that the masses have come to know. Yes, Logic’s pitch correction, waves tune realtime, and slate’s metatune all sound VERY comparable. However for myself, antares just adds something creamy to the tonality of the sound that sounds polished and professional.

[@Baywood]

thank you for taking the time to leave this comment, I appreviate the information and others wil too!

[@TheRyanKellner]

@@Baywood appreciate your video highlighting these updates, brother!

[@chuckery5177]

Make sure to turn I/O buffer size to the lowest before recording and make sure to put the plugins on a bus

[@wadegurnett]

@baywood Question for you: I followed some of your other videos and manually corrected some vocals with flexpitch and those are fully quantized to the notes but when I run this pitch correction over the top of that (just to confirm) there are still parts that give me the autotune and it sounds awful. I have confirmed the key is the same for both but I am still getting a few notes that just sound like a robot. Other than simply re-tracking the vocal, any tips/suggestions here?

[@Baywood]

How does it sound with out Flex Pitch and just the pitch correction?

[@wadegurnett]

@@Baywood Just the Pitch Correction sounds worse than with the Flex Pitch. Where the FP + PC had some slight robotic sounds, the just PC sounds fine most of the time but has some really awful peaks. The just FP sounds more natural but because I knew the original take had some pitchy areas, so I ran it through pitch correction, just to be safe. I also shopped our the vocal to a producer and he thought it needed slight pitch correction (which made me question the work I did). When he sent it back, it sounded worse than this-like he just ran it through waves without even listening back. I know the FP is in key and hitting the right notes, so maybe I should just trust those and go with it - I like the more natural sound for this track. Thanks for the video and the response.

[@fellassallef8885]

How can I adjust the tonal balance of a mix without a reference track? Or can I adjust the tonal balance using match EQ with the track I downloaded from KZbin? please help.

[@flipnap2112]

honestly you should always use a reference track. itll save years of headaches. even just A/B ing.

[@mindslikemine.8789]

actually sick update for sure

[@JayManwell]

How would I pitch up vocals up in half step intervals? Is there a plugin outside of stock that you would recommend? I don’t like Logic’s pitch shifter.

[@Baywood]

I believe one semitone is a half step

[@Jeruwrld137]

So Do I Not Need A Limiter Now That There's A Similar Function In The Mastering Chain

[@killerlifealbum]

Quick question , once happy with mix , long as the blue button in stereo out is blue and master button turned on when u export the track will be exported with the mix edits ?

[@Baywood]

hmm if I understand what you are saying than yes. you can seend in an email to [e-mail] and we can help further!

[@santiagoa98]

How donyou organize your plugins like that in the plugin selection list??? Like, all the third party plugins under the default categories of the native plugins?

[@Baywood]

Logic Pro settings, then Plugin Manager

[@GigawattGarage]

oh wow very nice. I use Logic for karaoke night and I run 2 microphones and it would be really helpful if I could automate the key change to whatever song is currently playing. maybe i could have a script that automatically looks up the song on tune bat or uses my "mixed in key live" App to automatically set the key for whatever audio is playing on Apple Music or Spotify or KZbin. Do you know of a way to do this?

[@Baywood]

Woah that would be cool! I do not know a way to do this

[@kwemsp7276]

Nice❤

[@Sherifsound.]

*Is it ok to use 2 versions of AutoTune at same time? For example Pro&EFX+.. WHAT DO YOU THINK?*

[@Baywood]

Sure sometimes I do. All that matters is turning one on and off and being able to hear that it makes it sound better. If you can’t hear the difference than I wouldn’t worry about it

[@SkylerRotten]

THANK GOD!!

[@BeauTylerMakesMusic]

Great video. This pitch correction plug-in already existed in Logic though. They just changed the color scheme.

[@malcolmpayne944]

Neural Pitch Detection, and the Tolerance knob are new to 10.8 . .

[@Baywood]

That’s what people say and I didn’t read any dev notes about it. But to my ear, it sounds smoother.

[@wonki1957]

just updated after whatching your video! now a lot of my plugins when you open them show ⍰ when it comes to selecting presets etc. any idea what to do there?

[@Baywood]

Rescan your plugins in Settings>Plugin manager

[@boyyorbit]

I've been hoping for an auto-tune update on logic for years now, I'm pumped for this! Do you feel like the new auto-tune sounds any different than before?

[@Baywood]

Yes it’s better because of the more controls

[@ilo0076]

@@Baywood I see you also use Ableton. Do you think Logic is better than him? What workflow does Logic have compared to Ableton?

[@Baywood]

I like logic for mix and mastering, ableton for production

[@MajikMuzq]

Yeah you don’t need to buy any other plug-ins but you need to buy a newer computer or mess with that patch to upgrade Smh I’ll stick to Fl 21.2

[@Skrenja]

​​​@@MajikMuzqI disagree. These additions are great but there's still a few third plugins that are pretty necessary for electronic music production. Beat breaker is a good addition but it's kind of limited in functionality compared to something like Effectix 2 or MRythmimizer. The new pitch corrector is cool, but still doesn't sound good on stereo sources, nor does it have a low latency mode. Also, while Flex Pitch can get the job done, it's still _completely_ outclassed by Melodyne. There's also _still_ no quality multiband compressor (with width parameters and sidechaining) built into logic, nor is there any dynamic EQ plugin (besides the mastering assistant.) The multipressor is extremely outdated and needs an overhaul. The adaptive limiter still sucks/ sounds super harsh when compared to any quality mastering limiter and most of the stock distortion plugins are pretty lacklustre too. Logic still doesn't have a plugin search function or good way to organize samples. Logic also lacks a plugin like iZotope RX to remove vocals and other things from samples with AI. We're getting _close_ to not needing extra plugins in logic -- but we're not quite there yet. Sure, most of these issues can be fixed with free third party plugins but the point still stands.

[@DANYALLAYNAD]

2nd song example is some heat 😮‍💨👌🔥

[@MIKEYGOTBANDS666]

That’s my song droppin this fam! Had my Baywood master it💯🙌🏽

[@quanmula2506]

How do you access the mastering plugin where can you find it?

[@omerickgreen5685]

update your mac

[@KdotMuzik89]

Mine didn’t update. What do i do to update it. It says logic is up to date so idk why mine still looks like the old one

[@Baywood]

Check the App Store and see if you can update it there, maybe update your MacOS

[@electroflamez9584]

i have logic but i still have the old format of this plug in how do I get the new one?

[@Baywood]

Update your Mac to the latest version and then you may have to update again. They’ve had two updates in the last few months . And then you should be able to go to the App Store and update logic

[@bobbyboyderecords]

does studio 1 not come with melodyne?

[@chadgarber]

Why did you have to reanalyze the master after you made changes? Didn't that reset and lose your customizations?

[@Baywood]

Yes it did but I didn’t really like what I was doing so sometimes it’s beneficial to just hit reanalyze it on maybe a different part of your song

[@chadgarber]

Yea I agree. I was just making sure there wasn't something to reanalyzing after making changes... thanks.@@Baywood

[@nonamebonney13]

do you mix (use the mastering tool) with monitors or headphones?

[@Baywood]

Both

[@nonamebonney13]

@@Baywood thanx dude

[@JabiRSmith]

Other daws come with pitch correction as well, maybe they are not widely used, FL studio has had it for a while and also the mastering section is included if am not mistaken.

[@Baywood]

Pitcher is not a good pitch correction at all. It lacks quality. And their mastering plugins lack quality as well. Which is why most FL users use external plugins like waves

[@joelsom]

This clueless cat has no idea that Pro Tools comes with Melodyne! …which is BY FAR the best vocal tuning and manipulation tool. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Baywood]

melodyne is not auto tune... it is vocal pitching just like Flex Pitch for Logic Pro. Melodyne is great!

[@JabiRSmith]

@@Baywood that's like telling people pro tools is the industry standard, saying FL studio lacks quality sounds like you've not used it enough or a just sold on certain plugins. A daw is as good as your knowledge about it.

[@JabiRSmith]

@@joelsom I think most people are lost in this battle, many producers and artists think pitch correction will automatically fix bad vocals instead of getting the singing basics first.

[@dantethompson167]

Whatup!? What Audio Interface and Midi Interface do you use? And what Mac OS are you currently using?

[@Baywood]

All my gear in linked in the description of this video 🔥 also on latest OS, I always auto update

[@_zanderr]

Does the new auto tune have a “real time” type switch for no latency ?

[@Baywood]

No it does not

[@kenyattathompson9144]

Were are these new plugins available for down load?

[@Baywood]

Nope just gotta update Logic Pro from the app store

[@user-wp8gp9lc4w]

I don't see this update available anywhere and my computer is up to date. Am I missing something?

[@Baywood]

Hmm maybe restart your computer. Make sure you are on a later or newest MacOs

[@josephdoerr8245]

Bro u need to show more of the process how do you add the stereo out track

[@Baywood]

I have plenty of tutorials where I show that :) this was a video solely on the new update for vocalists.

[@endlessnameless01]

Will this update be available on M1 MacBook airs? I don’t seem to have the update yet.

[@Baywood]

Yes it should be. You may have to update your actual computer to the latest update first though. And then go to the App Store and you should see update available for Logic

[@endlessnameless01]

@@Baywood Looks like the update isn't available for my macbook yet. Not sure why.

[@TheIntersonic]

Nice unexpected treat...

[@KevbyDay]

Hey! I'm NOT good with Logic, so this may be a stupid question, but I hope someone can help me out with this. I have the newest version of Logic, but I can't seem to find the "Mastering" button ANYWHERE. Can someone please tell me where I can find it? Thank you soooo much in advance!

[@Baywood]

Press x to open the mixer then scroll to the right. The track furthest right is your master stereo out. There should be the word mastering at the bottom of the plugin chain, but it is grayed out. Just click it and it will open!

[@KevbyDay]

@@Baywood Thank you so much man!

[@t1paul]

are you able to record with autotune on now or does it still lag?

[@Baywood]

it will likely lag but depends on your set up really

[@thenextraycharles26]

I don’t have the update. I went to the App Store to do it and it wasn’t available for an update smh

[@Baywood]

check your OS it may need an update

[@DavidAlexx]

I use Melodyne on logic, but I HAVE TO TRY THE NEW STOCK ONE wow 😮

[@udensiukaoma2686]

Some GarageBand IOS tutorials would be interesting to see

[@jackklaholz9576]

Yo how do I update Logic? It's not showing up in "updates" within the App Store

[@Baywood]

you may need to update your MacOS

[@nine-0875]

how do you get this upgrade ?

[@Baywood]

Check the App Store on your Mac! You may need to update your MacOS

[@manumonogenis]

Wait, do I want to add loudness compensation?

[@Baywood]

It already does. That should be turned on

[@otucanal-wv2rt]

Anyone know if uad pluggins are working ok on this update?

[@Baywood]

I do not know

[@MKD371]

If you want the T-pain auto tune sound, then I'm sure logic auto tune is fine to use. I'd like to hear if it beats Melodyne, for subtle tuning. Logic needs searchable plugins, yes a folder can be made with favourites, searchable feature would simply be better and is not hard to implement, should be basic standard stuff. Time stretching in logic still sounds terrible, bubbly artefacts. Snappier response with the use of cores is needed, none of this low latency button rubbish, the whole point of a snappier system is so you don't have to start turning off plugins or freezing tracks, not in this day in age, with systems being so powerful. Pro tools is the only other DAW, which has these power management issues. Studio One is super reliable and stable, as well as Ableton, however, if you grow up using a system, then I tend to stick to it. Logic still has some features which I prefer, instant buss routing is super timesaver.

[@Baywood]

Very well said. Flex Pitch is a good option just have to be more careful. The whole search thing is what makes me use Ableton more for production tbh.

[@Wizardofvoz2]

Nothing touches Melodyne

[@MKD371]

@@Wizardofvoz2 Melodyne beats of them hands down.

[@3rdwrlddrippy]

why my logic ain have this? recent update?

[@Baywood]

Couple months ago! Check the App Store for an update

[@buckybarz3779]

808 video length. Nice!

[@Richardgreenmusic.]

Best advice said “use your ears”. Great demo and I agree Logic raised the game in their current release.

[@Baywood]

Maybe hard to understand so I’m not sure it’s my best advice, but with more experience, you’ll begin to understand the sentiment

[@user-ew8xh9wk8w]

Can we get a new how to make our own preset from scratch using stock plugins for logic with this new update? possible a free template for recording☺ ONE LOVE ALL LOVE

[@Baywood]

Absolutely

[@Skrenja]

I hate the new Logic pitch corrector. Does anyone know if it's possible to revert to the old one?

[@Baywood]

I bet it’s possible , I don’t know how

[@faviancarrillo4337]

I can’t get my macOS to update to ventura and so i can’t get the logic update.

[@Baywood]

Apple sure knows how to get people to upgrade their laptops

[@xipemuko5471]

Is the mastering from the antaras

[@Baywood]

logic pro!

[@JCOLETUBE556._]

how do i update logic to get the updated version of pitch correction?

[@Baywood]

Update Logic in the App Store you may also need to update your Mac first to see it

[@JCOLETUBE556._]

@@Baywood ok bet one more question. someone sent me logic will i still be able to update it or are updates only available if u paid for it

[@RakiRam]

Why can’t i hear myself with pitch correction when i recording? And Good video like always bro

[@Baywood]

hit the "I" button for input monitoring , its orange.

[@RakiRam]

@@Baywood its not working for me. I have watch so many videos of this, but i can only hear myself with my other plugins, like reverb and echo and so.. and first when im done with recording, the pitch correction works? Thanks for your time bro, do you know anything i can do?

[@steveb8200]

Those are some very wholesome lyrics 😂

[@Baywood]

Lmaooo

[@chasehavensmusic]

How do I update logic to see the new auto tune?

[@Baywood]

The app store

[@JabiRSmith]

Autotue isn't a logic pro plugin, just to help anyone that maybe planning to update logic hoping for autotune.

[@alexanderbytes]

hard

[@almightyymeech_]

why dont i have the mastering button?

[@Baywood]

Update Logic Pro in the App Store

[@ceeZee21]

I have a 2014 Mac Book and doesn't let me download logic 😭😭😭😭😭😭 and I can't afford a newer Mac 😭

[@Baywood]

It’s so worth it thooooooo 😭

[@Bradleybrookwood]

Well that pitch correction sounds way more natural than in previous versions of logic. Did they finally make it zero latency to where you can have pitch correction turned on and you can record without delay? Waves audio says that their pitch correction is zero latency or something to wear if there was latency you wouldn't even notice it but even still it makes the fan on my laptop Speed up like crazy.

[@Baywood]

I agree! something sounds smoother to me. but I still believe you will have latency if you record with this

[@Bradleybrookwood]

@@Baywood is the latency bad enough that you could actually hear a delay or is it similar to the waves tune plug-in where you probably won't hear very much latency so they say. Is it true that the waves tune plug-in has zero latency or are they just puffing?

[@Skrenja]

​​​​​@@BradleybrookwoodOn my M2 Mini and using a buffer size of 32 and sample rate of 96khz, the latency isn't unusable while recording with just pitch correction itself. It's a little laggy, but useable enough to perform with it on. However, don't expect to record in real time with autotune and a whole vocal chain after it, unless you're using low latency plugins exclusively. The latency combined with other plugins really adds up.

[@Bradleybrookwood]

@@Skrenja so what are all the different low latency plug-ins? Our compressors and noise gates and limiters considered low latency in logic? If I were to use the pitch correction and logic 10.6 and just have that as the only plug-in, would there still be any delay or would it be zero latency?

[@Skrenja]

@@Bradleybrookwood I am not sure which plugins in particular cause the most latency, but usually 3rd party plugins are the worst for it. Excluding limiters and pitch related stuff, Apple's built in plugins tend to introduce minimal latency. Try enabling "low latency mode" and see what gets disabled throughout the project. You can then remove those plugins before recording (expect for the pitch correction.) Make sure you turn low latency back off before you record, otherwise pitch correction will stay disabled. Also make sure you're recording at the lowest possible buffer size your computer can handle without the project freezing or making popping noises. Like I said, with just pitch correction on, you should be okay to record. A little latency, but it's not unusable. A compressor and a Logic EQ will also probably be fine, just don't go crazy with adding a million plugins.

[@Deezo_mixed-it]

mines still the same as the old one?

[@Baywood]

Go to App Store and update

[@skillzxrocks]

Why has my projects not updated to have this new stuff

[@Baywood]

Need to update your Mac to latest version and then update logic in app store

[@whitemokebeats8880]

Yeyyyy i think, beat crusher is a killer gross beat

[@partlysimpson5154]

Yeah but not plugin search how is this possible?

[@Baywood]

true that would be nice. I just added my most used plugins to a folder so I can grab them very quickly, which basicallly solvels that problem for me

[@robinarmstrong8886]

So they reinvented a plugin that Antares invented in the 90s? This is progress how, exactly? We already have Flex Pitch which makes this look prehistoric. Why don't they fix the numerous bugs/ limitations in the mixer window.?

[@Baywood]

Well it’s free to you don’t have to pay monthly for Antares. But you are right about Flex Pitch. I’d say it’s combo of the 2 that work the best

[@therealkristiansbeats]

What version of logic is this

[@Baywood]

10.8

[@jbugatti7429]

Where is this I don’t see this

[@Baywood]

On the master Stereo out

[@tnsgaming4825]

hope you feel healthy

[@Baywood]

Thank you! I do

[@thehourglasslee]

Cubase has great pitch correction

[@itssandeepa]

Logic fam ❤🔥🔥