Logic & Tarantino | The Art of "Stealing"

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The AtZ Show

The AtZ Show

Күн бұрын

What is the Art of "Stealing"?
Let me know your thoughts down below!
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In this video I:
-explain The Art of "Stealing"
-how Logic and Tarantino craft their stories for their movies, mixtapes, albums
-why Michael B Jordan
LOGIC:
Sir Robert Bryson "Bobby" Hall II (born January 22, 1990), known by his stage name Logic, is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer. Raised in Gaithersburg, Maryland, he signed with Visionary Music Group, before releasing three more mixtapes over three years.
Quentin Tarantino:
Quentin Jerome Tarantino is an up and coming American director, writer, and actor.
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SOURCES
► Footage: Logic | Logic Records Flexicution, 44 More | Take It Back (Music Video) | All I Do (Music Video) | Band of Outsiders | Django Unchained | Pulp Fiction | Gone With The Wind | Psycho | 8 1/2 | Logic Tour Footage | Amazing - Kanye | Black Spiderman (Music Video)
► Interviews: Logic Beats 1 | Logic on Hot Ones | Logic's Incredible Journey (Documentary) | Brad Pitt on Tarantino
► Images: Logic | Everybody | Under Pressure | The Incredible True Story | Bobby Tarantino | Bobby Tarantino II | Chris Webby | 808 & Heartbreaks | Man on the Moon | Eminem Freestyle | Hotline Bling | The Life of Pablo | Quentin Tarantino | Shia Labeouf | Undeniable | Travis Scott | ASAP Rocky | Merry Christmas Lil Mama - Chance the Rapper | The Dark Knight | LotR | Twilight | The Departed | Michael B Jordan
► Fanart: Andrewss23 (Tarantino)
► Music: Everybody - Logic | Contact - Logic | Amazing - Kanye West | Pursuit of Happiness - Kid Cudi | Never Enough - Logic | Under Pressure - Logic | Hotline Bling - Drake | Everyday - Logic | Waves - Kanye West | 44 More - Logic | Contra - Logic

Пікірлер: 3 100
@lab9451
@lab9451 5 жыл бұрын
maybe i shouldnt have commented before i finished the video... this kinda opened my mind to the concept of inspiration and making a style and how that fits into the dynamic of the "culture" today. legit not a bad vid at all
@Beraksekebon21
@Beraksekebon21 5 жыл бұрын
Listenn....
@terencewong7946
@terencewong7946 6 жыл бұрын
Just like what Nas said: "No idea's original, there's nothing new under the sun It's never what you do, but how it's done."
@loganroark3916
@loganroark3916 6 жыл бұрын
terence wong what song
@GOKU8125
@GOKU8125 6 жыл бұрын
Logan Roark No Idea's Original
@loganroark3916
@loganroark3916 6 жыл бұрын
Tib Khan thanks bro😂💯
@josephkuforiji9407
@josephkuforiji9407 6 жыл бұрын
Facts.
@PesterFester1966
@PesterFester1966 6 жыл бұрын
@The Hip-hop Underworld Kendrick ripped off Aquemini with GKMC...... Stop making it a big fucking deal.
@ericwillis4301
@ericwillis4301 6 жыл бұрын
I love how you took this subject and broke it down so well and as a huge logic fan I can appreciate someone who can see a flaw but still understand what he is doing with his music and his own skill
@EvsPersonal
@EvsPersonal 6 жыл бұрын
Read my mind. Great comment
@charlesgaron8131
@charlesgaron8131 6 жыл бұрын
hes sampling. a hip hop song without a sample in my opinion is worst then one with one. no samples = crap
@hazdogthesickest6175
@hazdogthesickest6175 6 жыл бұрын
re-worded what you said and used it for a media seminar about Tarantino. You've made it.
@TheAtZShow
@TheAtZShow 6 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@R3DXZZZ
@R3DXZZZ 6 жыл бұрын
Thank god he had a organized video, criticism but he is intelligent and hes not throwing dirt on logics name...he just gained a subsciber
@MeLlamoFick
@MeLlamoFick 6 жыл бұрын
This video so great Im about to steal it
@NosManJr
@NosManJr 6 жыл бұрын
Zipote this comment so good I legit already stole it and commented on this video
@poison03nae
@poison03nae 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha this made me laugh harder than I thought 😂😂😂
@Bluebalz
@Bluebalz 6 жыл бұрын
i killed it with the 421st like :(
@Treataod
@Treataod 6 жыл бұрын
“Good artist copy; great artist steal.” - Pablo Picasso
@drz616
@drz616 6 жыл бұрын
plural
@charlesgaron8131
@charlesgaron8131 6 жыл бұрын
and hip hop artists samples because its part of hip hop and its great
@complexity3324
@complexity3324 6 жыл бұрын
「 Ju. 」 I
@RibbonVintageGirl
@RibbonVintageGirl 6 жыл бұрын
"This is how idea was made: Steal, but *Make it Better* " -- Willam Belli
@Mr.timecapsules
@Mr.timecapsules 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Garon yeah a lot of people forget the fact that Hip Hop started by mixing two records to create a beat and to rap over it
@cornhq
@cornhq 6 жыл бұрын
The hotline bling comparison was pointless
@heavyd3708
@heavyd3708 6 жыл бұрын
CornHD the hotling bling with everyday and waves with 44 more. Those last 2 wasn’t even close lol.
@jackyvstheworld
@jackyvstheworld 6 жыл бұрын
Heavy D The Hotline Bling one was pointless, but the one for Waves was close because of the shouting vocal sample used for it. Not the beat/flows or anything. That vocal adlib-shout-thing was the exact same in Waves as in 44 More.
@OizyMusic
@OizyMusic 6 жыл бұрын
@@jackyvstheworld 6ix sampled it,not logic
@jackdenzo
@jackdenzo 6 жыл бұрын
The hotline bling one was because the song slows down and the beat changes and it talks about a girl
@CHARLZZIEE
@CHARLZZIEE 6 жыл бұрын
HE TALKS ABOUT A GIRL? OMG YEAH BECAUSE DRAKE IS THE ONLY ONE TO EVER MAKE A SONG ABOUT A GIRL HAHA YOU KNOB@@jackdenzo
@jalvorson
@jalvorson 6 жыл бұрын
*Looks at the video description* *sees the phrase "Quentin Tarantino is an up and coming director"* Excuse me?
@willturner9756
@willturner9756 5 жыл бұрын
Fixed: "Quentin Tarantino is a̶n̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶d̶i̶r̶e̶c̶t̶o̶r̶ the G.O.A.T."
@wi77iama773n
@wi77iama773n 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah the disrespect to the GOAT is definitely there.
@saintfaithdata
@saintfaithdata 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that no one is replying that the description is a very clear joke is making me think that this comment itself is a joke.
@halokeeper
@halokeeper 6 жыл бұрын
"samples more than an elderly person at a Sam's Club" - perfect. lol
@TheHippy-te3tx
@TheHippy-te3tx 6 жыл бұрын
halokeeper It was pretty funny though
@izharkhalil751
@izharkhalil751 6 жыл бұрын
Lool I read this just as he said it
@benjamingraham5464
@benjamingraham5464 6 жыл бұрын
As a massive Logic fan I went into this video wanting to immediately dispute him "stealing".However I will say that you had a refreshing view on the difference in stealing and inspiration and where the line is drawn. Personally I agree with you there are so many artists that are "guilty" of this. But with so much music being made everyday and so many new artists emerging one could see how there is overlap sometimes. Overall a fantastic video that really covers all sides of the topic. Oh and my favorite logic song is till the end on Under pressure.
@TheAtZShow
@TheAtZShow 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you watching the whole thing. That’s a damn good song too
@prinzez6559
@prinzez6559 6 жыл бұрын
Lol he made me actually rethink how things work in reality, everything is influenced even classics
@frappeman
@frappeman 6 жыл бұрын
As a Logic fan, I like the way you presented this. You were able to simultaneously point out flaws and also show reasoning as to why he is liked. A lot of musical debates don't do that, so thank you. P.S. favorite logic song from mixtapes would be inception, from albums it's under pressure (the full version, specifically)
@Ariaaae
@Ariaaae 5 жыл бұрын
Especially the last part ... :)
@jamesmillard3773
@jamesmillard3773 6 жыл бұрын
He was quoting Cudi....they are actually friends
@callmeviper7723
@callmeviper7723 6 жыл бұрын
James Millard Obviously
@blah8802
@blah8802 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah literally he mentioned him
@LILREMAlNS
@LILREMAlNS 5 жыл бұрын
not at the time he dropped the album...
@jerads.7160
@jerads.7160 5 жыл бұрын
Nelson Mandela logic went on tour with kid cudi before logics album came out.... are you dumB?
@LILREMAlNS
@LILREMAlNS 5 жыл бұрын
you're lying@@jerads.7160
@insertnamehere4959
@insertnamehere4959 6 жыл бұрын
Boi, I'm about to get inspired by this video real quick
@letmemakeumoney
@letmemakeumoney 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@Tboltross69
@Tboltross69 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@christalmeph
@christalmeph 6 жыл бұрын
No, you stole it
@christalmeph
@christalmeph 6 жыл бұрын
Because inspiration doesn't exist
@yeehawbrother6672
@yeehawbrother6672 5 жыл бұрын
logics best project has and always will be under pressure
@Pnyvsh
@Pnyvsh 5 жыл бұрын
The entire album is amazing
@BBGirlSamus
@BBGirlSamus 5 жыл бұрын
The Incredible True Story...
@MattGoetz
@MattGoetz 5 жыл бұрын
He really followed up well with The Incredible True Story though
@BBGirlSamus
@BBGirlSamus 5 жыл бұрын
@@MattGoetz personally I sometimes prefer TITS over UP, but only sometimes
@MattGoetz
@MattGoetz 5 жыл бұрын
@@BBGirlSamus Yeah recently I've been bumping True Story way more than I used to and it's just because sometimes the mindset you are in changes how you "hear" the music and how you perceive it and True Story just seems like a more mature UP to me. A more developed character of Bobby.
@germvn.837
@germvn.837 6 жыл бұрын
Ive been a Logic fan for a long time and youre right. I hate how everyone thinks artists are "stealing" when really they're js inspired and trying to chase their dream. Logic is talented as hell and definitely deserves respect. You explain and understand! Subscribed!
@Evohate
@Evohate 6 жыл бұрын
There’s a difference between a “fan” and a “Stan”
@C_The_Guy
@C_The_Guy 6 жыл бұрын
Logic has borrowed a lot more than that lol. thats only scratching the surface. he frequently uses flows and song styles from Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Common, Eminem, MGK, Gambino, Kanye, Travis Scott, Big Sean and even Joey Bada$$ at times. and yet he's still one of my favorites. 🤷‍♂️ he gives the credit for stuff that inspires him and shows respect to people. aside from that, he also has his own original flow, that you can always tell when hes being himself and no one else.
@ToniiTheShooter
@ToniiTheShooter 6 жыл бұрын
c yeaahh bro be copying rappers. Still playing with his grandads money !
@SonnySantana2099
@SonnySantana2099 6 жыл бұрын
c I’m logic fan. But that’s facts. He does do that. But he’s real. He gives credit. He took it but many of people do that. He still has a great mind for an rapper
@traceyclaver6076
@traceyclaver6076 6 жыл бұрын
c I think that's his appeal. It's that he's somehow made all the culture we know inti his own. A nerd that raps.
@LordFerbombi
@LordFerbombi 6 жыл бұрын
Tonii The Shooter it’s called paying homage dumbass
@GrantSteenholdt
@GrantSteenholdt 6 жыл бұрын
When I saw him in Detroit he literally said “this that Travis” when he was rapping the auto tuned part in Wizard of Oz
@jeanmatthewernest
@jeanmatthewernest 6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully everybody watched the whole video before commenting
@exthechickenwing
@exthechickenwing 6 жыл бұрын
Matth I did not. Dislike with the quickness
@eastco.3536
@eastco.3536 6 жыл бұрын
Most likely not
@davidrichmond4905
@davidrichmond4905 6 жыл бұрын
No need. Logic is a small fries learning life yet thinking his the first man to know it. 2018 kids can "feel" personalities nowadays
@charlesgaron8131
@charlesgaron8131 6 жыл бұрын
yea kids born in 2018 definitly listens to logic....
@Jacoblmitchell
@Jacoblmitchell 6 жыл бұрын
I am logic fan. The title caught my eye, watched the full video. We’ll said and agree with most of your points. You got yourself a new sub!
@cameronhall4630
@cameronhall4630 6 жыл бұрын
Jacob your obviously not a real logic fan, he clearly just uses samples and says a sentence from a rappers song that he loves
@yungdolo8035
@yungdolo8035 6 жыл бұрын
No one has EVER broken down the “copycat” mentality as accurately as you have and for that, you have earned a sub keep up the good work
@TheRealJahan
@TheRealJahan 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of those videos you need to watch to completion before going to the comments
@pondigaza7809
@pondigaza7809 6 жыл бұрын
blvckraikage I read this and went back to the video 🙏
@jameswhite6056
@jameswhite6056 6 жыл бұрын
blvckraikage nigga raikage was already black like 4 times? Thats like saying white milk. Asian goku. Tall shaq...its self explanatory
@TheRealJahan
@TheRealJahan 6 жыл бұрын
James White 👍🏾
@TomSNC
@TomSNC 6 жыл бұрын
James White goku is an alien so nah hes not asian lmao
@behonest3639
@behonest3639 6 жыл бұрын
blvckraikage FACTS! 😂😂
@raullopez4243
@raullopez4243 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect! This is the definition of analysis, viewing a topic from all aspects without bias! Critical feedback is what pushes up to greatness, people just don’t like hearing their flaws...but the great take it and improve upon it.
@andreuariciaga8043
@andreuariciaga8043 6 жыл бұрын
I mean Tarantino did say “I steal from every movie ever made”. He just makes that shit look 10000% more bad ass. Love the video tho. Really went in depth with everything. Subbing!
@Fillup82
@Fillup82 6 жыл бұрын
"Good artists copy, great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso
@charlesgaron8131
@charlesgaron8131 6 жыл бұрын
but its sampling
@bryandiaz1044
@bryandiaz1044 6 жыл бұрын
@@charlesgaron8131 the difference
@dustycomputer1806
@dustycomputer1806 6 жыл бұрын
logic copies
@Bruno3605
@Bruno3605 6 жыл бұрын
"Every time I change wives I should burn the last one. That way I'd be rid of them. They wouldn't be around to complicate my existence. Maybe, that would bring back my youth, too. You kill the woman and you wipe out the past she represents." -Pablo Picasso. Yeah, quote that bastard.
@mayfalltribe4747
@mayfalltribe4747 6 жыл бұрын
Not the quote at all.
@iazteca1762
@iazteca1762 6 жыл бұрын
An amazing video. One of the most reasonable and constructive discussions I've heard about "stealing"/sampling/influence, etc.
@PandMusic
@PandMusic 6 жыл бұрын
iAzteca agree hahah
@benbacharach3977
@benbacharach3977 6 жыл бұрын
Being a fan isn’t not talking smack, it’s about staying a fan through the bad stuff.
@CharmsYT
@CharmsYT 6 жыл бұрын
I saw the title and instantly clicked. I’ve always talked to friends about how Logic and Tarantino are similar because of how they take inspiration and wear them on their sleeve. Thank you for making this video, I gotta show some friends this.
@KlyzmTheFirst
@KlyzmTheFirst 6 жыл бұрын
HE’S BEEN HIDING THESE LOGIC REFERENCES.. “Undeniable, Execution,& Take it way back”
@TheAtZShow
@TheAtZShow 6 жыл бұрын
👀
@tridux
@tridux 6 жыл бұрын
He hid an Everybody as well.
@itzhallows486
@itzhallows486 6 жыл бұрын
Take it way way back to the first black man
@honoos1962
@honoos1962 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby Tarantino II being his best mixtape?? Man did you listen to all the Young Sinatras?
@goliath3206
@goliath3206 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@jd5726
@jd5726 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome To Forever is easily the best Logic mixtape, BT2 is good but it's his worst mix tape imo
@illestJonny
@illestJonny 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly didnt
@RonaldYengwayo
@RonaldYengwayo 4 жыл бұрын
@@jd5726 indeed!!!!!!! WELCOME TO FOREVER IS A CLASSIC.
@ccole99
@ccole99 6 жыл бұрын
This why you are my favorite KZbiner!!! A little older but I was talking to my nieces and nephews who are in their teens... I was trying to explain to them and I ended up showing them exactly what you just started with... How his shit is borrowed heavily!!!
@jblue1622
@jblue1622 6 жыл бұрын
ccole99 KZbiner is that like a Disney Imagineer?
@honeyyb
@honeyyb 6 жыл бұрын
Do you actually listen to rap? If you did, you'd know that when rappers use a line from another song, they're paying homage to that artist.
@Angel-qn5bv
@Angel-qn5bv 6 жыл бұрын
Brittany Jorgensen like J. Cole in Adolescence, when he says “I grew up, a fuckin screw up.” shits nice. idk why people complain bout it
@advancedkiller23
@advancedkiller23 6 жыл бұрын
ccole99 but their all samples. Even the kid cudi line he said in an interview how he called cudi up and asked if he could use it even checked with his label and manager. Yeah he samples alot but every rapper samples. For the most part most beats on the mixtape were created by "6ix" his producer
@ccole99
@ccole99 6 жыл бұрын
Brittany Jorgensen yes, matter fact I remember my very first tape that’s right tape of the chronic!!! My dad bought it for me because I told him that George Clinton was on the tape... That was 94 or so... i’ve been alive long enough to watch wrap go from something that people just think is evil to the phenomena that is now... From Will Smith winning the first Grammy for rap album to triple six mafia winning Oscar for best song... One thing I can say is opinions are like assholes we all have one
@traplover6357
@traplover6357 6 жыл бұрын
Logic is like an always-inspiring learner. A pro is he is able to change to styles that people use. A con is he isn't experimental. Jack of all trades but master of none.
@itstroy4145
@itstroy4145 2 жыл бұрын
“Jack of all trades is a master of none but oftentimes better than a master of one” say the whole quote not just part of it.
@LargeInCharge77
@LargeInCharge77 2 жыл бұрын
@@itstroy4145 nah
@itstroy4145
@itstroy4145 2 жыл бұрын
@@LargeInCharge77 no one was talking to you
@fletchersaucey5243
@fletchersaucey5243 2 жыл бұрын
Bro what? He has mastered boom nap and to say otherwise is foolish
@shonyeezy5672
@shonyeezy5672 6 жыл бұрын
I always looked at logics style as if: 1: He's A guy who has been through alot has alot to talk about. 2: Who has a crazy ability to rap unlike alot of people. 3: Has alot of influences and proudly shows it while also at the same time still knows how to put his style on it.
@montezleamonte1445
@montezleamonte1445 4 жыл бұрын
Okay name a single song that he didn’t take lyrics, a flow, or a beat from somebody else. Make me 1 single song and I will find you the original work logic and six copied.
@markharell5320
@markharell5320 4 жыл бұрын
Dont Worry about it did you watch the video or read the comment correctly?? Lmao I don’t think you paid attention. The kid in the comment said he has a lot of influences. No one said he has any song that isn’t influenced. Nothing is new anymore. If you were to try to find a song from this year alone I can promise you that it would be pretty damn hard to find a song that won’t have similar lyrics, beat, or flow to a different work. Nothings new man. Pay a little attention
@wholemilk6001
@wholemilk6001 2 жыл бұрын
@@markharell5320 kendrick drake and j cole are all original. stfu scrub
@wholemilk6001
@wholemilk6001 2 жыл бұрын
his rapping isnt that crazy. and all he does is copy
@tb8654
@tb8654 2 жыл бұрын
@@montezleamonte1445 Dear God, 500 Days of Summer
@ZakariLyrics
@ZakariLyrics 6 жыл бұрын
You know I read this title thinking that this guy was going to go in on Logic and call him out on stealing a bunch of shit. But after all the points he gives, im glad I heard him out. Great video!
@nickynada-btc
@nickynada-btc 6 жыл бұрын
Everything is a Remix... watch the doc
@charlesgaron8131
@charlesgaron8131 6 жыл бұрын
ITS SAMPLES YOU FUCKTARD
@Shay45
@Shay45 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Garon “Everything is a Remix” is a documentary that this person is asking people to watch
@TheDoodLbot
@TheDoodLbot 6 жыл бұрын
ikr, shoutout to Kirby1 😊
@Mr.timecapsules
@Mr.timecapsules 6 жыл бұрын
Hip Hop started by mixing two records to create a beat and rap on it
@AnitaHanjaaab
@AnitaHanjaaab 6 жыл бұрын
@@charlesgaron8131 Everything is a Remix is a documentary asshole. Do your research before trying to make someone look stupid.
@rayshepherd5971
@rayshepherd5971 5 жыл бұрын
...sampling? And the hotline bling one was the biggest reach. However during the end you made some good points.
@YoungPrecise
@YoungPrecise 6 жыл бұрын
yo we was chill till you said bobby taratino 2 is his best mixtape. it's welcome to forever hands down 100%
@itzlawick
@itzlawick 3 жыл бұрын
Young Sinatra undeniable?????
@devindottagain
@devindottagain 3 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@xboxnation2854
@xboxnation2854 3 жыл бұрын
@@itzlawick that's what I'm sayin!
@Ewimnotluke
@Ewimnotluke 6 жыл бұрын
"Once you've made something that's worthy of being stolen itself, then I think you've made it".......DAAAAAAAAMNN DUDE
@mattclarkson3685
@mattclarkson3685 6 жыл бұрын
I saw this video when it came out in march, (clicked on it for Tarantino) and it 1. Inspired me to develop my own style and 2. Introduced me to Logic.
@AstoldbyNicole
@AstoldbyNicole 6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos man. They’re always so well put together and informational. As a huge logic fan you hit the nail on the head with your plot points. Thanks for this video man
@alejandromurillo7938
@alejandromurillo7938 6 жыл бұрын
DearNurse Nicole fuck logic
@joshweber3110
@joshweber3110 6 жыл бұрын
It’s actually plot points not point plots
@AstoldbyNicole
@AstoldbyNicole 6 жыл бұрын
Mythical Titan that’s what I meant lol thanks though
@ToniiTheShooter
@ToniiTheShooter 6 жыл бұрын
DearNurse Nicole he definitely did
@ShinbrigTV
@ShinbrigTV 6 жыл бұрын
I agree that basically nothing is original anymore and it's all about execution. EDIT: Also I just lost it at the Michael B. Jordon bit.
@demonbutterfly147
@demonbutterfly147 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like, with logic, when he “steals” lines from other artists it’s just an allusion to that piece. It’s mostly just a little cameo for people who know that piece and I think that is ok. There are some where he uses other’s lines frequently and that’s where my issue arises. But whatever he’s to popular and to rich for anything to change.
@Double189
@Double189 6 жыл бұрын
And that makes it ok how....
@ethanfast971
@ethanfast971 6 жыл бұрын
@@Double189 because if you listen to all of logics sounds, albums, and freestyles, you can tell he has real tallent. The words have meaning and the very few cuts he may use from other songs is almost nothing.
@adonis8293
@adonis8293 6 жыл бұрын
This is Hip Hop. Dudes that did what he does as frequently as he does back in the day didnt last long, talent or not.
@emanatingf
@emanatingf 5 жыл бұрын
@@adonis8293 That is very true
@jocelyncams1826
@jocelyncams1826 5 жыл бұрын
Ethan Fast logic is overrated and a lame. He’s weird as hell
@GokuBurraku
@GokuBurraku 6 жыл бұрын
You slick boi, I saw that undeniable when you said undeniable
@antiform47
@antiform47 6 жыл бұрын
I think its very disingenuous to say that an artist like Logic is simply "ordering take out and rearranging it to call it his own" just because you use the same samples as another song in one part doesnt mean by any stretch that the song as a whole is the same. You have to take into account all of the instrumentals, the vibe, beat, and lyrics. Its more like, say I made a painting of a room, and within that room are all of my inspirations. If within the room of the painting there is another small painting on the wall of, say the mona lisa- something iconic and relateable. you cant just shrug off my entire painting saying that the overall painting of the entire room is simply a copy of the mona lisa.
@TheAtZShow
@TheAtZShow 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. That was a broad statement for those who don’t find their voice - I give Logic his props at the end. Throughout, actually.
@Classikh
@Classikh 6 жыл бұрын
He does that on some songs but I wouldn't say that overall. That Travis Scott type song was a straight rip-off, he even copied his ad-lib.
@LargeInCharge77
@LargeInCharge77 2 жыл бұрын
He also just straight-up takes entire lyrics though
@averagejoe225
@averagejoe225 6 жыл бұрын
I think the mark of a good sample is how transformative it is. Look at Luther Vandross' "A House Is Not A Home" and Kanye West's "Slow Jamz." The difference between the two songs is shocking. The sample elevates the status of the original song from relative obscurity, and shows that Kanye listens to a lot of diverse music outside of hip-hop. When Logic samples "Waves", or "Amazing", 1. He isn't elevating the status of Kanye West, because Kanye is already an extremely popular figure, it comes across more like Logic is trying to elevate HIMSELF to Kanye's level, and 2. It doesn't show Logic's dedication to music, because who the fuck hasn't heard those songs. The popularity of Logic's samples comes across more like he's biting their style because those people are still around, still making fucking music. It doesn't feel like he's humbled by their greatness; rather, he's climbing their coat tails to get himself up to their level of greatness.
@georgeshiroda1173
@georgeshiroda1173 2 жыл бұрын
If this guy was being honest and saw this comment he’d like it. I felt defensive for logic vibes disguised as objectivity lol that’s just my opinion though. Understanding the origin and actually being creative or using it in a new transcendent way is important and your comment shows that
@vincenzohhh
@vincenzohhh 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say he's rearranging the food on a plate and calling it his own, I'd say it's more like he's Using the same plate as other artists with his own recipe on top.
@hollownecryb
@hollownecryb 6 жыл бұрын
That's the most accurate analogy I've ever read.
@geraldgreen919
@geraldgreen919 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah If his recipe is a combination of other artists recipes. This dude has used so many other artists sound, & it’s the exact reason I stopped listening to him recently. Plus he uses the same words & even sometimes bars a lot. Dude has rhymed every word that ends with -ated in like 40% of his songs. Logic is a fan of hip hop that wants to mash all his favorite aspects of it together. He’s not trying to create his own lane.
@rust44
@rust44 6 жыл бұрын
VinnyThePooh More like same recipe with a different colour plate.
@tomleonard830
@tomleonard830 6 жыл бұрын
You can give the same ingredients to different chefs and get two VERY different dishes. Similarly two artists using the same components in their art (music or film) can still result in two distinct pieces of art.
@tomleonard830
@tomleonard830 6 жыл бұрын
Estryus Flemming - We're having this discussion because there is debate on the issue. While the use of sampling, covering, remixing, homaging and other forms of creatively "copying" has been in use for decades, there remains a strain of thought that any form of influence from your predecessors must be attenuated as much as possible.
@rsthilaire
@rsthilaire 6 жыл бұрын
I really love Logic, probably my favorite artist, but I always understand where people are coming from when they talk about his influencers and if they don't fully appreciate him. But holy hell, Bobby Tarantino 2 is a near perfect mixtape for me. Just a fun time. Although, he does contradict himself SO MUCH... its still really lit. Love the video, really great parallels between Tarantino and Young Sinatra himself!
@SilverScopez007
@SilverScopez007 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan St. Hilaire what do you mean contradicts himself?
@cozydesignz8921
@cozydesignz8921 6 жыл бұрын
yh logic said bobby taratino mixtapes aren't serious projects they're just for fun and to vibe
@stellarspace_95
@stellarspace_95 6 жыл бұрын
not everyone can actually make a really good sounding beat. as bright as logic is, he needs inspiration to come up with his hits and musical composition is something he needs to spark that. if he could do both he would've been a god. like if he could mix and master and rap all by himself without a single other hand.. damn
@drunkengoku
@drunkengoku 6 жыл бұрын
Damn he said if you take something and make it your own. Now others wanna steal it 🔥.
@bigscol
@bigscol 6 жыл бұрын
I know that rap samples more than an elder person at a Sam's club 😂😂
@charlesgaron8131
@charlesgaron8131 6 жыл бұрын
hip hop*, and cause its part of hip hop
@PokeTwilight
@PokeTwilight 6 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head with those points. Thanks to Logic, I listened to more music I haven't been exposed before. Favorite track of Logic is definitely Soul Food followed by City of Stars.
@Damonetyrell
@Damonetyrell 6 жыл бұрын
“Rap samples more than an elder person at a Sam’s club” thank you sir you just ghost wrote some of my bars 🤷🏿‍♂️
@bobbyclark3940
@bobbyclark3940 6 жыл бұрын
Damone Tyrell STEALING
@Damonetyrell
@Damonetyrell 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby Clark “SAMPLING”
@Sinofria1898
@Sinofria1898 6 жыл бұрын
Great video man! I have never seen your stuff and I was pleasantly surprised by the level headed attitude on this subject. As a guy in a band, I can tell you that you got alot of these things right from the perspective of many musicians. I think your point about whether anyone can call themselves the best if the steal is really valid. I have been forced in my time in college to study music history, and I can tell you that this has been happening forever. Beethoven was hugely inspired by Haydn and Mozart and he is considered by many to be the most influential composer in that realm of music. The difference is like you said, setting yourself apart, and for rap that usually means lyrically, at least for me. I think the Cudi rip that you showed is an example of logic stealing, but to specifically show the love to a huge influence of his. I personally don't think logic is the best to do it, not because he steals from others, but that he recycles lyrics from mixtape to album of vice versa. Everything aside though, it seems like you are doing good, thoughtful videos and I'll be checking more out. I'll leave you with a quote from Stravinsky to double down on how good your thoughts on the subject are. "A good composer does not imitate, he steals."
@giblet4286
@giblet4286 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of logic fans don’t really listen to hip hop, like myself at first, but he introduced me to so many artist, like Tarantino did, him
@bardiarahmati649
@bardiarahmati649 6 жыл бұрын
Who can relate! WOO!
@tridentHalo
@tridentHalo 6 жыл бұрын
I see it as more paying homage to the original flows or samples he uses but I am boast because I love him
@tridentHalo
@tridentHalo 6 жыл бұрын
Bias
@ninamarie5382
@ninamarie5382 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge logic fan. But this vid was put together so well and you are so intelligent and your not bias at all. You only put in facts and you go in others perspective. I completely agree with you and all your really saying is facts. New sub!
@timeyinbinitie47
@timeyinbinitie47 6 жыл бұрын
Was going to dislike till I watched excellent analysis will definitely be subscribing.
@CliffyH21
@CliffyH21 6 жыл бұрын
Logic and stealing in the same sentence ? Pump your brakes! **watches before judgement**
@ZestyCroissant
@ZestyCroissant 6 жыл бұрын
As soon as he started off with saying he listens to chris webby I was like psh this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, but then he gave us a well thought out - logical - discussion. Good stuff!
@TheAtZShow
@TheAtZShow 6 жыл бұрын
What is your favorite Logic song? #Flexicution
@tylerk5975
@tylerk5975 6 жыл бұрын
The AtZ Show Never Been! I'm a HUGE Logic fan, but this is a great video. Well done, sir.
@MrKiingpin
@MrKiingpin 6 жыл бұрын
Are you a pusha t fan
@Robo-bm4cv
@Robo-bm4cv 6 жыл бұрын
Warm it up
@Ziallow
@Ziallow 6 жыл бұрын
Definatly Man of the year. Had such an impact on me
@arnulfopadilla6085
@arnulfopadilla6085 6 жыл бұрын
925
@AllTheArtsy
@AllTheArtsy 6 жыл бұрын
"Good artists copy; great artists steal." If you're any kind of creative person, you already know the difference and what they mean.
@TheAtZShow
@TheAtZShow 6 жыл бұрын
100%
@jacobturnage
@jacobturnage 6 жыл бұрын
I swear I’m shocked each video with how real you are. Found you via the Kanye/Cudi video a lil while ago; spot on, insta-sub. This was no different. Keep it up, man!
@AdamsProcrastination
@AdamsProcrastination 6 жыл бұрын
There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking samples and inspiration from other songs and albums, I love logic and I love the artists he 'straight up jacked' from, he's a very talented artist with a bigger and even brighter future ahead of him #Rattpack
@Ryanspashai
@Ryanspashai 6 жыл бұрын
Damn you really went in because I initially thought this was gonna be very opinionated but really this was very informative
@-issdeej-1158
@-issdeej-1158 6 жыл бұрын
Damn not many people on the internet have an open mind like you, nice to see it.
@evsanger
@evsanger 6 жыл бұрын
My best bass teacher taught me that the best way to come up with your own music is to look at the playing of others and learn it, and then splice it all together to create your own sound. I'm not plagiarizing if I learn the same lick as my favorite bass player, I'm not plagiarizing if I use that lick in my own solos and creation, but I if I use that lick over the same backing with the same context, we have a different story. Even though Logic is using beats and even some lines that don't belong to him, they're more like allusions to famous rap titles and artists rather than blatant stealing. Logic is so good because he knows the sounds he likes, from the artists he likes, and how to present it all to his fans while still being original. This creates a holistic sounding mega album that is mass produced and circulated through millions of hands, while, again, still being original. In this sense, he's merely following in the footsteps of artists of his monetary and commercial calibre (Kendrick, Rihanna, etc)
@tb8654
@tb8654 2 жыл бұрын
Half of this comment is accurate and the other half is riding Logic, what is original? Trippie Redd and Carti have more unique work in their songs, lyric/flow/melody wide within the past 2 albums than Logic has had across his last 5
@evsanger
@evsanger 2 жыл бұрын
@@tb8654 4 years after writing this comment I can definitely agree that I was riding Logic there. I think I was just trying to get at the fact that he made it as a successful artist because of those traits. His album is original in the sense that he didn't plagiarize the work but the song ideas themselves aren't original
@tb8654
@tb8654 2 жыл бұрын
@@evsanger crap I didn't even notice it was YEARS 😭 I def agree on that bro, I do like Logic both musically and as a person
@theoreticallydrew
@theoreticallydrew 6 жыл бұрын
I liked the video and the fact your doing both criticism and positives towards Logic being influenced and stuff. If I have to say who does it the best, in my opinion I have to say Eminem. If you look at his songs he has some that straight up use music/lyrics from popular songs and makes them his own. Like rhyme or reason and in your head are two big examples.
@lubnaabdulrehman4431
@lubnaabdulrehman4431 6 жыл бұрын
you are sooooo good at what u do and make such good points that I would have never thought about
@istolegojospencil9820
@istolegojospencil9820 6 жыл бұрын
I LOVE LOGIC
@donemessedup2356
@donemessedup2356 6 жыл бұрын
Salty Tea ok...?
@ProducerCastro
@ProducerCastro 6 жыл бұрын
This is called an Interpolation. Its the artists own twist on the original.
@charlesgaron8131
@charlesgaron8131 6 жыл бұрын
its called sampling fuckhead
@asvp__miller1065
@asvp__miller1065 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Garon dude can you get lost?? 😂😂 you’re on everybody ass for no reason
@Ninwing
@Ninwing 6 жыл бұрын
Interpolation and sampling are really similar but they aren't the same. Interpolation focuses more on delivery, intonation and just general style. Listen to GOMD by J. Cole or Normal Girl by SZA and you'll notice how similar they are to the original but is used for a different purpose.
@AL-mx6yx
@AL-mx6yx 6 жыл бұрын
‘Everything is a Remix’. The best video out there that touches upon this subject.
@eduardozepeda5746
@eduardozepeda5746 6 жыл бұрын
Have you not heard, “ Welcome to Forever?” Bobby Tarantino is not the best mixtape
@homes500
@homes500 6 жыл бұрын
C'mon "crush a bit, little bit, roll it up, take a hit" is something schoolboy q has used as well. Plenty of rappers have said it just like C.R.E.A.M. Imo I don't think logic copies. It's similar but it's not copying. Even the hotline bling comparison I didn't really see copying I just saw a similar style in a different beat. The only one I could see is the contact song since that beat is almost exactly like amazing except a little slower.
@antoineagnew3986
@antoineagnew3986 6 жыл бұрын
As a Logic supporter and someone influenced by him, I have nothing but respect for what you said
@ComedyLikerVideos
@ComedyLikerVideos 6 жыл бұрын
I drew that Tarantino cartoon at the 2:17 mark back in 2013. It was actually part of a bigger artwork that I was designing as a gift for my friend's birthday. How did you find it?
@TheAtZShow
@TheAtZShow 6 жыл бұрын
Googled Tarantino PNG and popped up on related. Cited it under “Andrews 23”, is that you?
@ComedyLikerVideos
@ComedyLikerVideos 6 жыл бұрын
Well, my DeviantArt name is Andrewss23 (with TWO 's'es), but you were close enough, so yes, that's me.
@TheAtZShow
@TheAtZShow 6 жыл бұрын
Gotcha, updated Good stuff!
@ComedyLikerVideos
@ComedyLikerVideos 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate it!
@KaelenB
@KaelenB 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite Logic song? #DeadPresidentsIIIAllTheWay
@wilbur4548
@wilbur4548 6 жыл бұрын
#DeadPresidentsIIIAllTheWay :)
@Layla-rr7iy
@Layla-rr7iy 6 жыл бұрын
PopGreen_Master chhjv
@isniffcrustysocks3862
@isniffcrustysocks3862 6 жыл бұрын
That song is fuckin dope
@dbzkings3650
@dbzkings3650 6 жыл бұрын
:Welcome back Tv: logic just don't give a fuck. Ratt pack
@knowledgeknowledge7546
@knowledgeknowledge7546 6 жыл бұрын
Dead presidents not to be confused with Growing pains 3
@DDoggy1224
@DDoggy1224 6 жыл бұрын
I was about to go off but decided to watch the whole video. You make a good point. Good video man.
@velvetoscillator
@velvetoscillator 6 жыл бұрын
lol Kanye - Waves is also a sampled track.
@dario.m4707
@dario.m4707 5 жыл бұрын
Rap is not about the beat its about the lyrics just because a beat is similar it doesn't mean that they are bad
@ryanb.carden255
@ryanb.carden255 2 жыл бұрын
If you had good lyrics over a fart sound you wouldn’t listen to it. Beats in rap are equal to lyrics in the building of hip hop as a culture and personally I feel like they can be more important
@SpliffyHusk
@SpliffyHusk 2 жыл бұрын
It is always about the beat bro
@chiefblanko
@chiefblanko 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanb.carden255 false. Bears eat beats. Bears, beats, battle star galactica
@jedikiahmusic
@jedikiahmusic 6 жыл бұрын
sampling, and paying homage to legends is what most music is nowadays.
@Ggggggggggggg2342
@Ggggggggggggg2342 5 жыл бұрын
Wanna know something? We wouldnt be anything without the people before us.
@jessicabarco72
@jessicabarco72 6 жыл бұрын
I think some people are getting inspired by Logic , and mostly show that in other ways but not in music. Like doing what they love. & Aye I listened to this whole video and I do see what you mean . I totally agree Logic has been inspired by others but I feel he makes it his own.
@Trench810
@Trench810 6 жыл бұрын
i do music and logic inspires me with the stuff he does
@matheusdiassc
@matheusdiassc 6 жыл бұрын
I think Logic really stands on the inspiration side, with those Tarantino's shots being his verses, like you said. Also I think he manages to bring the "samples" from one context to another, like you listen to a particular song and then he gets a verse or a beat and puts it on a completely different situation. Nowadays the thing that makes you stand above the others is how well you can use your influences to make something new out of it. And to be fair, Logic does a good job on it. Maybe we are still to see his prime, but right now he is already killing it.
@jncasey8234
@jncasey8234 5 жыл бұрын
"To when your grandma was naming your parents everyone steals" please explain your parents being siblings.
@tammyariel2982
@tammyariel2982 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe your grandma knew your other grandma and gave her a name suggestion... That grew up to be your other parent
@RickOnTheLoose
@RickOnTheLoose 6 жыл бұрын
*The Art of Sampling
@HowWeSeeItPodcast
@HowWeSeeItPodcast 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Huge logic fan but the video is valid. You did this 100% on point and much love because some people just straight bash instead of being constructive
@adanomar9103
@adanomar9103 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone borrows ideas from everyone The truth is that every thing you know is borrowed hence the term being "influenced"
@NosManJr
@NosManJr 6 жыл бұрын
*This video is so good I'm about to steal it* This comment is stolen
@kokecordero65
@kokecordero65 Жыл бұрын
There is no such a thing as an "original" idea, it just doesn't exist. Everything was, is, and will be inspired by something else, and we are condemned to it. Nothing that you think you know came from nowhere, we only choose how to express it.
@ScorpMatoro
@ScorpMatoro 6 жыл бұрын
In my opinion 1-3 lines are inspiration it becomes stealing when they jack a verse
@amdavad
@amdavad 6 жыл бұрын
PREAACH, IVE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS... godfather2 > godfather1
@abrahamdominguez1896
@abrahamdominguez1896 6 жыл бұрын
ALL of them lmao 😂
@biyahero3424
@biyahero3424 6 жыл бұрын
na lmao
@alexnelsonamaya1
@alexnelsonamaya1 6 жыл бұрын
JRA RAPPER! Everyone says that i think you sampled that
@earlpatrickgonzaga5008
@earlpatrickgonzaga5008 6 жыл бұрын
Nah.. The Godfather: Part III > The Godfather, The Godfather: Part II Sofia Coppola was far too magnificent in the film.
@abesc_
@abesc_ 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Rattpack member, and after listening to this video I honestly agree with what you're saying. Logic takes from a lot of places, but he's slowly becoming the influencer. What I see him as, is taking from all the best parts of different genres of music and other great rappers, and making the best music out of that. I see him as the best because he takes from everybody and respects the craft so much
@withmatt6327
@withmatt6327 6 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you. RZA said it best. You take the ingredients and make your own recipe. That’s what Logic does, and that’s what everybody does.
@saintlaurentdon2725
@saintlaurentdon2725 6 жыл бұрын
expect Logic's recipes have already been made by Drake, Kendrick and Travis but better.
@LordFerbombi
@LordFerbombi 6 жыл бұрын
Dennis U “That’s what Logic does, and that’s what everybody does” reading is fundamental
@gamernation2842
@gamernation2842 6 жыл бұрын
Or he takes the recipe before someone else has the chance to release and put out a version of their own and use a title that’s similar too.
@LordFerbombi
@LordFerbombi 6 жыл бұрын
Gamer Nation you mean the song that was teased a year before its release date? 🤔
@gamernation2842
@gamernation2842 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the song that was shown with instrumentation alone and no lyrics for it whatsoever??? All you heard was the choir.. hmmm Logic is a snake bro. Not a bad rapper, but a snake and a biter.
@stanhenderson9928
@stanhenderson9928 6 жыл бұрын
He didnt say he's the greatest of all time, but he said he's the greatest at what he do. He's the greatest in the art of stealing, respectfully. But its not stealing, its retroactively paying homage, but with a twist he's actually using something similar to something familar made by his famous artist to attract new fans by using his twist or influence on it, whether its the cadence/flow, lyrics or track/instrumental. Kinda like reverse psychology in a sense like, maybe by using something ppl are used in his unique way, he promote his message to ppl who wouldnt give it a look, otherwise. The power of suggestion with a familar phrase or sound, maybe.
@emanatingf
@emanatingf 5 жыл бұрын
@Stan Henderson Does he know everyone who's apart of & has contributed to the Art of Stealing. If not, how can he decide that?
@philip1875
@philip1875 6 жыл бұрын
You’re endings are bloody perfect
@jessicabarco72
@jessicabarco72 6 жыл бұрын
A real fan will tell the person they support honest opinions . That’s the #rattpack
@ryanawe6190
@ryanawe6190 6 жыл бұрын
Under Pressure will be his best work ever, nothing will ever top it because of how corny he has become.
@fIurox
@fIurox 6 жыл бұрын
Idk. Welcome to forever comes close. And the way, Young Sinatra: Ultra 85 - is looking. Be hard to tell
@ronnysingh4152
@ronnysingh4152 6 жыл бұрын
Young Sinatra IV is coming out soon, and so far the stuff Logic put out a few weeks before, like his YSIV freestyle, One Day, The Return, they all seem promising.
@Captian3pik
@Captian3pik 6 жыл бұрын
you mean metropolis?
@PesterFester1966
@PesterFester1966 6 жыл бұрын
TITS shits all over UP.
@lordbrownkid6378
@lordbrownkid6378 6 жыл бұрын
agreed
@nyykSIUUU
@nyykSIUUU 6 жыл бұрын
Don‘t forget the „He was once a thug from around the world“ from „Eazy-Duz-It“. He used this in the background for the whole song (Under Pressure). I love it.
@stevemcintosh9381
@stevemcintosh9381 5 жыл бұрын
“...You can never criticize the artist you like...” HAHAHAHA then Logic just dropped COADM and practically the entire RattPack is inventing theories about how there’s gonna be an entire second half to this album because of how disappointing it is.
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