Wait A Minute....Google Funds Firefox???

[@krishcshah]

Mozilla also supports extensive documentation for web development it costs a lot to support and host that kind of thing. Plus they provide all of this without ads. You don't know how much we appreciate it.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Oh yeah for sure!

[@krishcshah]

@@kh_trendy i used to be infuriated at the fact that Mozilla with just 5% market cap spend all this money on MDN while Chrome sits and makes money when actually they should be providing the docs because they benifit from it the most. Brings peace to my heart that Google is funding them behind the scenes.

[@kharis9120]

I used mozilla from a couple years ago because when my old laptop use chrome it is very heavy and lag although there is a lot of changes and now my ram could handle any type of browser i still used it, but maybe ill try other browser too from now on to see the difference Edit: which is weird because people says chrome is faster than mozilla lol, maybe my old laptop is the problem

[@nandomax3]

@@kharis9120 I use mostly edge now

[@diablo.the.cheater]

​@@kharis9120 chrome is faster than firefox if your machine is more potent, but if you machine is more limited, firefox is faster. Firefox degrades more gracefully in environments where ram and processor time are limited, but in environments where those resources are more available, then chrome can actually run faster.

[@whensonzhou4174]

Calling firefox a version of open source chrome will trigger a lot of the technical people who know the differences between firefox and chromium based browser.

[@Schroefdoppie]

Yep

[@dsihacks]

Yes!! Firefox and Safari are þe last two "major" browsers þat still do þe hard part of making a web browser, which is þe.. web browser itself? Like þe part þat tells your computer how to read HTML+CSS and draw it onto your screen, and þe JavaScript interpreter.

[@monke7566]

@@dsihacks why use thorn instead of "th"

[@dsihacks]

@@monke7566 I like þ and I want to see it back in þe alphabet.

[@diablo.the.cheater]

@@dsihacks what does that symbol even means? please refrain from using non ASCII characters

[@Rednesswahn]

Many browsers now use chromium under the hood - Opera and Edge for example. Firefox has it's own engine. Letting Firefox die would also pretty much leave Google to make the web standards as they please, including anything ads and tracking.

[@nickplays2022]

What about Safari?

[@itsPenguinBoy]

@@nickplays2022 safari is based on chromium now

[@GlobalGaming101]

@@itsPenguinBoy Safari uses WebKit, it’s not based on Chromium.

[@itsPenguinBoy]

My mistake... I understood that Safari needed to follow Chrome's lead more than Firefox but I guess I don't recall why

[@funkemunky]

@@itsPenguinBoy Actually chromium's Blink is a fork of webkit, so technically Chromium is based on Safari...sort of

[@Psychopatz]

I'm kinda proud that I'm one of those 1% Firefox users in our country lol

[@LogicallyAnswered]

😂

[@SameLif3]

I’m .05% in the globe

[@RenderingUser]

same

[@LoneWolf-py7ps]

I am 1.67 percent of my country

[@RenderingUser]

@OGRapHub is there dark reader addon support for librewolf?

[@hrznn]

Tldr for those who dont have 12 minutes: Google funds Firefox so they can say "we have competition" and avoid lawsuits/fines/etc. Other than that, I have most browsers installed for different reasons. Unnecessary but cool. Instead of switching between accounts, I gave each browser a role/theme. Firefox (dev edition) is for development, github, codewars, things like that. But I do believe that 90% of the Firefox market share comes from Linux distros, because it's preinstalled and no one bothers to search how to install Chrome.

[@PanosPitsi]

Linuix doesn’t make 7 percent of the computer market that Firefox is supposed to be installed on.

[@lalatendupdeo4398]

Not like noone bothers they just don't want to install

[@michaelthompson7217]

@@PanosPitsi it’s a good point but also we don’t really know how they are defining the population with those stats in video. maybe phones are included or not for example… hard to know

[@Frostbytedigital]

As someone who only uses Linux in cloud environments... I didn't even know this was a thing. I have Firefox installed cause my web apps need to b le accessible in any browser.

[@PanosPitsi]

@@michaelthompson7217 phones have to be included since safari is so high up, on iPhones even chrome is a reskinned safari

[@dr_tails658]

Long time Firefox user (10+ years) and it's really 2 reasons why for me, the add-ons/customization and wanted a separate browser from Microsoft/Google

[@oppionatedindividual8256]

Edge and Chrome aren’t comparable despite both running on chrome, that’s stereotyping you’re basically a browser-Nazi

[@trappedcat3615]

Why not Brave?

[@kunugra]

@@trappedcat3615 brave is chromium based, same as chrome

[@trappedcat3615]

@@kunugra and what is the issue there? Chromium devs are not all Google devs and its 100% open source. Brave disables dozens of Blink features that are considered a privacy or security risk. They also remove or block functionality that directly benefits Google. If you don't like that Google devs are involved, well they are involved with Firefox too and have an impact on some of their decisions.

[@legendboyAni]

@@trappedcat3615 well he also said that firefox for addon's, brave don't have that many usefull addons that firefox have like firefox multi account container and firefox relay, do you have that in brave no, so just stop pushing people to a chromium based browser

[@NasTwice]

One thing that is rarely mentioned in the Explorer/Firefox era is Firefox had the best add-on library on the market. That's what drew me in initially.

[@Sniperboy5551]

I remember the days before Chrome, but let’s be honest, ANYTHING is better than Internet Explorer

[@carlangelo653]

@@Sniperboy5551 Edge isn't all that bad nowadays either. I honestly prefer it over chrome these days.

[@minutenreis]

@@carlangelo653 I mean Edge is just chromium so yeah sure, go for it

[@kevinmcfarlane2752]

Yes, Firefox Classic (i.e., pre-Quantum) was way better than anything else for usability and features and even better than what's available today imo.

[@kevinmcfarlane2752]

@@minutenreis Not true. Chrome, Edge, Opera, Vivaldi and Brave are all based on Chromium but build on top of it with differentiated features. On desktop I have all of them installed and will sometimes temporarily switch from my default depending on the nature of what I'm doing.

[@MaxwellDoesStuff]

The single greatest feature in Firefox is container tabs. Basically they let you create a “container” which has a whole separate set of cookies from your normal browser. In this container you can then sign into whatever services. Personally I use it for managing school and personal google accounts. In my normal tabs I’m signed into all the services I use and then in the school container I have my school stuff. If they aren’t separated then you get a ton of issues where you’re just blocked from google services or signing in with the wrong account causing pain and annoyance.

[@xXxBladeStormxXx]

What's even the point of that? Just use incognito tabs in chrome then.

[@mystic-malevolence]

@@xXxBladeStormxXx Incognito clears all cookies on close and, indeed, Firefox has an equivalent called "in private browsing." That's a fundamentally different function from separating different search histories/cookies into different containers.

[@xbotscythe]

I use chrome so I just use separate user profiles, but I don’t like all the extensions added by my school for my school account since things like goguardian keep running in the background, I might have to look into switching back to Firefox now 😭

[@xXxBladeStormxXx]

@@mystic-malevolence Isn't that just profiles?

[@mystic-malevolence]

@@xXxBladeStormxXx I'll be honest, I have never used profiles so I don't know. That does sound like xBotScythe's description, though.

[@peterm.2385]

I'm definitely preferring Firefox over Chrome. Add-ons are more powerful in this ecosystem, I have way more control about how to access web pages - and what to filter out. Since I suffer from ADHD - avoiding distraction is very important to me. Ads are being removed where possible - and even after this, I prefer the reader mode to grasp texts. Besides this I got rid of many strange updating and home-talking processes when using Firefox instead of Chrome...

[@devilsadvocate8094]

This right here ^^ I have ADHD as well and readers mode is how i normally surf the web 😂

[@peterm.2385]

@Saul 8a # This is what I meant with more powerful Add-ons 👍

[@diablo.the.cheater]

@@peterm.2385 All those addons exist in chrome as well, and even more. In fact it is very rare for an addon to exist only in one browser and not in the other. the reader mode is very good tho, I use firefox on my phone exclusively to read web novels because the reader gives me a standard color, font, etc for multiple sources

[@Sniperboy5551]

Adderall is better than Firefox 😂

[@kevinmcfarlane2752]

Add-ons WERE more powerful in Firefox Classic. You think they are in post-classic? I thought they were pretty much similar to Chromium ones.

[@notyova]

Started using Firefox because it took less RAM and was faster for older computers. Firefox made the difference between having KZbin playing in the background and not due to Chrome's bandwidth. I would still use Firefox to this day if it had a slightly better design interface that Chrome offers.

[@rondYT]

You can tinker with the design of firefox to make it to your liking

[@atillabiber9697]

IMHO Firefox is years ahead of Chrome in terms of visual design and user experience. I personally don't like Google's ways (making everything so simple that it becomes useless, adding unnecessary bloat just because Google wants it so)

[@sprinterwind4597]

Do yourself a favor and get 32GB RAM sticks. It's like $100 and would last forever

[@mellord83]

Ever tried Brave? I like brave because it has a nice clean simple interface and kind of looks like a cross between Firefox and chrome. And lets be honest, it looks miles better than chrome.

[@apc9714]

Google: when you are so successful you need to finance competitors. Great video, as always very informative and entertaining

[@nrbgamingYT]

Microsoft did the same by funding Apple. Monopolistic Lawsuit avoidance seems common in the tech realm.

[@micosstar]

for google, their case is strong if they are ever asked about the dominance of chrome in marketshare; i mean, they're literally funding their competitor, firefox, what else is there to say?

[@RichardHoule]

Not only they funds Firefox, they also funds Safari. They pay billions per year to be the default search engine of Safari and Siri.

[@smkh2890]

To be the default search on Apple iPhones and laptops, you mean.

[@kh_trendy]

I worked for Netscape when they released the last version, which was just a skinned version of Firefox with some plugins baked into it. The original spell checking plugin for Firefox was written by a guy on the Netscape team, and so that became a feature in the last version of Netscape.

[@PoochieCollins]

Wait... Netscape is still a supported browser??

[@jmtradacc]

Google keeps Firefox alive so they can say they have competition. Without Firefox Google will get a lot of headaches. 😂

[@Esus4]

The same reason Microsoft saved Apple when it was going under. Avoided a lot of legal problems.

[@ducksongfans]

@@Esus4 they didn't avoid anything cause of it the supreme court denied it cause the judge didnt follow porper procedure

[@FlorianWendelborn]

I use Firefox Developer Edition since it has some of the best devtools out there. I use Firefox in general because it has a feature that no other browser has (AFAIK), Firefox Containers. They allow me to basically always be in private-browsing since every single tab I open is a completely unique session. However, they also allow me to say that specific websites (like KZbin) get a dedicated, persistent container. So I’m always logged-in on KZbin, but I’m never logged-in on other Google sites. I can simultaneously log-in to multiple accounts on the same site without any issues, just by opening them in a different container. It’s honestly the most useful unique browser feature. That being said, if Firefox wouldn’t exist anymore, I’d definitely NOT switch to Chrome. Google is an evil data hoarding company and should not be used when avoidable.

[@NBSgamesAT]

It‘s rare to see a fellow firefox developer edition user but hello. Personally I don‘t mind Chrome/google but I stay of chrome for most of the time because why use chrome when I can keep using firefox.

[@Sniperboy5551]

Yeah back in the day when I did a lot of whitehat hacking work, Firefox easily had the best tools

[@willpugh-calotte2199]

Firefox Containers is great. I use it to stay simultaneously logged into two different KZbin accounts, while also impeding Google's ability to link my other web activities specifically to those accounts. Firefox's Inspect facility signals invisible parts of webpage code by displaying them in grey. Chrome's Inspect facility doesn't provide the same indication of why you're not seeing part of the webpage highlighted when hovering over certain parts of the webpage code.

[@Austinfdp]

Is the feature on on dev firefox? Ive been using brave and i want to try firefox out

[@ibgib]

Wasn't aware of "Multi-Account Container" extension! Just profile manager with multiple profiles and web-ext for dev...

[@joelarnold2394]

Firefox was nothing like a rebranded, open source version of Netscape. As you said yourself, it was rebuilt from the ground up. I remember using it as early as 2005, and the reason it became popular was due to innovation (or a lack thereof by Microsoft). Firefox introduced major new features like tabbed browsing and addons (for things like ad blockers) which fixed a lot of the annoyances in Internet Explorer. It was also a lot more secure and crashed less often. Most people never starting using it because of some ideological crusade against Microsoft. People used it because it was a superior product.

[@elainelouve]

Very true. IE was slow the way I remember it, Firefox was just performing better. I had friends who recommended switching to Firefox, and then I guess I just didn't see the point of switching away. Btw I use Google as the default browser, also because it's good. Still good even with the ads and paid content.

[@brianvogt8125]

I was a fan of Netscape Navigator from 1995 until version 9 was declared dead by AOL. I then begrudgingly took AOL's advice embedded in the final update to version 9, and transferred to Firefox. In recent years, Mozilla has been running Firefox down a commercial path in some ways, and has removed many of the Options settings. Waterfox has come somewhat to the rescue there. I was delighted to find that SeaMonkey has preserved the look & feel of Netscape 7 (surprisingly rather than v.9), and is still supported.

[@brianvogt8125]

The commentator is confused by the fact that Netscape created the Mozilla Firefox project before being sold to AOL. Firefox was a new creation rather than being based on Netscape Navigator. Years later, AOL finally decided to abandon the Netscape Navigator product, and donated its source code to the Mozilla Foundation, from where SeaMonkey is the resultant product (although now outside the Mozilla fold).

[@akinaguda]

Mozilla also gave us the Rust programming language ❤🦀

[@JoeWithTheHoesBiden]

Mozilla fucked over the rust crew, fuck them

[@RenderingUser]

wait really?

[@JoeWithTheHoesBiden]

@@RenderingUser yeah but mozilla then fucked over everybody developing rust so fuck mozilla, I'm never forgiving them for that one

[@RenderingUser]

@@JoeWithTheHoesBiden wait what happened exactly?

[@JoeWithTheHoesBiden]

@@RenderingUser during the pandemic mozila laid off the entire rust crew and nearly ended rust until the rust foundation was seperated from mozilla fuck mozilla for that, I will sit here and use edge instead of firefox just because fuck them

[@kidades]

I've used firefox before chrome came out. When it did, I really had no reason to switch from a browser I was familiar with. And that is still the case now. Nothing related to privacy.

[@elainelouve]

Same

[@DanielDogeanu]

You are correct, I switched to Firefox because it's just a better browser than Chrome! And after the rewrite, it's also the fastest! The first thing that pushed me to switch from Chrome to Firefox was the rendering engine, which rendered fonts way better than Chrome. Fonts used to look really junky in Chrome, until they fixed it a few years back with the switch to the Blink rendering engine. But still, I stuck to Firefox, it's simply better and more privacy oriented!

[@Farreach]

the only reason to ever switch to chrome is their ecosystem other than that firefox is leaps and bounds better

[@sapphiron21]

I stuck to Firefox mainly because it let me arrange the toolbar however i like plus all the addons that wasn't available on chrome (then), the privacy protection is just the cherry on top.

[@GarnWall]

Though Firefox has basically the same features as Chrome, the tab layout and overall navigation just feels better to me than Chrome. The main browser I use is Opera, they allow you to have multiple workspaces, and there's so many other small quality of life features that the other major browsers are lacking.

[@danielbuckland4329]

I've always used Firefox and love it for all the reasons in this video but also some very specific things like the multiple search bar option, built in screenshot tool and dev tools.

[@spde]

I use both Chrome and Firefox 😁👍 This was a wonderful overview of everything from the days of Netscape (RIP Navigator!)

[@aaaaasssss884]

Tree Style Tab, pocket, container, and Swift Selection Search are the killer add-on for me, I never thought I would be a Firefox user before trying it out half a year before. Very little but quality of life feature.

[@s3th0n33]

On my fist PC when I was a kid I had Netscape Communicator because my dad had it on both his work and home PCs and I was somehow already familiar with it. Moving to Firefox after Netscape was abandoned was a no brainer. Since then I always used IE on new Windows PCs only to download Firefox. On the other end most of Linux distros come with FF by default and when I compile and install Gentoo, FF is usually the first software I emerge at the first boot. I use decently high range PCs for work and fun and FF is a staple, regardless. Said that, I usually have more than one browser installed, for different tasks, but FF is the default one. I just love Firefox.

[@darius2640]

I like firefox. I started using it in 2008 when I bought my first PC and never switched. I like it even more now when it claims to be all about privacy and simplicity

[@Mewnblades]

is anybody gonna mention the fact that google is also dropping the framework that almost every adblocker extension uses in chrome, and firefox isnt? I feel like there may be a surge in popularity just due to this face alone.

[@Lord_Falcon]

Long term Firefox user here. More customization, more privacy and runs more efficiently than others. Easy choice.

[@papanga1197]

I use Firefox as my "academic" browser. I binge watch KZbin and scroll through my social media on Google whilst I open my emails, my canvas, Google Suite, and OneDrive in it. Firefox consumes less RAM so I can work much more smoothly on my academic and/or work stuff.

[@infradragon]

I use for Firefox for the privacy, and the extreme level of customization and diy modding.

[@logosour]

Ok, I'm one of those minority people who use Firefox but only for personal use. For my college and work stuff I use Edge browser. As much as I love Firefox, I really want Firefox to adapt some features from other browsers like "default vertical tabs" from Edge, "sidebar" from opera/edge, "tab grouping" from chrome. With chrome dropping support for Manifest V2, I think some people will shift to Firefox for better ad-blocking features. Anyway, I am quite satisfied with Firefox myself and am not going to switch anytime soon.

[@fsdfgasgfisd]

It's suggested to upgrade to windows 10 if on windows 7 still. There's a major security vulnerability so you'll never even know if you're infected as system processes get hijacked

[@avi12]

I'm actually using Brave as it has a preinstalled adblocker if not for Brave, I'll probably use Edge, both because it's a fork of Chromium and it has killer features such as a built-in TTS engine So basically I have to choose between blocking ads because I hate ads, and having great features as Brave actually lacks features I miss from Edge and it doesn't seem like the Brave team will add them anytime soon

[@nebunezz_r]

Come on, you can just slap Ublock and be done with it. That's how I run my Edge, slap PopUp Blocker and Ublock, set up sidebar, and done.

[@alephcake]

"Firefox doesn't come preinstalled on neither Windows or Mac" Linux: allow me to introduce myself

[@auseawesome9112]

I swapped from chrome to firefox due to chrome stopping support for older extensions (breaking nearly all adblockers and privacy extensions)

[@RangieNZ]

Chrome is rolling out a huge change to how it operates in a few months, called 'Manifest V3'. The main purpose of which, is to stop ad-blockers from working. Firefox is going to maintain the current 'Manifest V2' style, which will retain ad-blocker support. Over the next few months, Firefox WILL be taking market share from Chrome, as people migrate over, to maintain ad-block usage.

[@mitotakjde9763]

Im using Mozilla just because I don't like chrome at all. I have high end pc so its not about having old system. I really dislike how with google, everything is made to feed you adds. Also i don't want to be without addblock, and as it would not properly function in chrome in the future (maybe they already implemented that change) i would rather not be on internet at all, than to be a product that google is selling to someone. Its insane how much adds you get and how much google manipulates what you see to sell you something. When i compare the same searches on one of my gfs devices and on mine, (on those that arent linked, never were on the same wifi and so on) we both get vastly different results. Its incredibly manipulative

[@ozzieggg]

Calling firefox an open source Chrome is terribly misleading. They run completely different engines under the hood. Chrome is Chromium with extra packages and features. Firefox is Firefox.

[@anon0]

you should mention the main thing which is ad block. you still get certain ads when using ad block with chrome. and its only getting worse with manifest v3

[@BramHeerebout]

I am really curious to see what will happen. I am actually an edge user. It is like Chrome nowadays but with a few nice extras for me. However, the second I'm seeing ads I'm out. Hello Firefox old friend!

[@cybersecurity3905]

Thumbnails on your videos are so good, that whenever i click on your documentary by only seeing title and not seeing the thumbnail, i go back, see the thumbnail and continue watching it afterwards.

[@ghoste07]

The part about Mozilla's revenue isn't entirely accurate. While I'm guessing 80%+ of their revenue still comes from donations, especially from Google, they do have a couple services they sell: Mozilla VPN (essentially a rebrand of Mullvad) and Firefox Relay Premium. They account for at least 10% of Mozilla's revenue afaik.

[@jamesantony1992]

Firefox comes pre-installed in many Linux distros. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have a user base who installs Firefox in whatever machine they use for their use.

[@djaegean]

Firefox is not an open source chrome browser. This is totally wrong. They are not using same language, they are not using same rendering engine, they are not even close... Video is OK but the information is mostly wrong.

[@Connie_cpu]

The big thing that solidified my use of firefox: I can install uBlock Origin in Firefox for Android. Haven't used Chrome on my android in years.

[@kron4x]

the reason i personally use firefox is DEFINITELY not because i hate chrome, if i liked chrome id switch immediately i have no issue, the only thing keeping me on firefox really is the overall vibe and some functionalities like hitting middle click on the space at the taskbar at the top to open a new tab etc, also i kinda feel more private when i use firefox because i heard chrome spies on you even if you are in private mode or incognito or whatever

[@satgurs]

incognito doesnt provide any privacy features at all, all it does is delete your browser history, and that stays consistent on all browsers. the only upside to firefox is the fact that it supposedly doesnt sell data, unlike chrome

[@xXxBladeStormxXx]

@@satgurs There's no proof at all that chrome sells your data though. Other than people telling each other that and then those people telling others and so on.

[@satgurs]

@@xXxBladeStormxXx There's a lot of proof, read the terms of service.

[@wolfarix]

Another factor about the number of users on Firefox is that it’s preinstalled on some Linux distorts such as Ubuntu

[@sparenn9070]

I use Opera and I love it, had some problems with Chrome and couldn't solve them, so I started using Opera and I love it. You have included an ad blocker, tracker blocker, and a VPN. It's really smooth and nice. For browsing I love it the most now. Also it's quite customisable

[@matrixlander85]

Opera +1

[@floridapowerlines]

agreed and i love the flow its really good for saving things for later

[@xizinpinglo7862]

Opera is Chinese 😑 no trust for it

[@zEw0]

Ewwww you must be really dumb ngl. Opera is chinese which makes it really bad for privacy

[@4w3rftwegrf54]

"Giving money to a smaller company (to keep them in business) DOES NOT PROVE YOU ARE NOT A MONOPOLY. If anything, it does the opposite. it proves you ARE a monopoly, because your business practices are affecting the profits of other companies to the point where you have to give them money to create the illusion that you have viable competitors"-Michael MJD But there's something we have to understand here. Did Google engage in anti-competitive practices? Because a quick search shows that as the illegal part, not the monopoly status itself. Therefore, I think keeping Firefox alive for a legal argument is a misinterpretation.

[@AI-Idiot]

firefox used to be my favourite browser, since its open source, easy to work with (usually) and has some really big advantages in privacy and user expeerience. That being said, Brave browser is better, an my actual favourite as of today, but the reasons it is so are more towards stability, openness, simplicity, integration and SPECIALLY optimization. All of said things can be improved in firefox's side quite easily, and if they adress them (specially the google services not working because of an internal error with certificate authentication problem, as well as the 6 simultaneus procecess with only a single tab open thing that I suppose is a bug) I will definately go back to it as my favourite browser.

[@machancock545]

I switched over to Firefox from Brave (chromium-based) because of the news of Manifest v3. From my understanding, this isn’t a problem for Firefox at the moment.

[@Belaris888]

I've used all browsers, but in the end Opera suited me the best, and then Opera GX came out, and man oh man, it made things so much easier, gaming browser indeed ^_^

[@kevinmcfarlane2752]

Opera is my current desktop default. Though for me, it's not as good as it was about 3 years ago. They introduced some usability regressions. I switched to Opera after being a longtime Firefox user. Vivaldi is my current No. 2 but could also be No. 1.

[@saedin1]

Google recommended firefox before they invented Chrome, even the very word "chrome" already existed inside firefox for years before.

[@andre-nunes]

I'm in the google ecosystem so chrome is the main browser I use. Recently did a bookmark import so FF is the main one on my desktop and mobile now. I think the reason I left FF initially was the performance.

[@iUUkk]

Another very important thing to know at the moment is that Chrome is killing adblockers by moving to Manifest v3 for extensions somewhere in 2023. There is a change where adblockers will be limited in the stuff they can block. Firefox announced that they will continue to support Manifest v2. This means if you care about adblocking, Firefox will be much better.

[@illdieanyway7865]

I've been using Firefox since I was little, yes, I'm gen Z, and I think Firefox is the best browser out there, from a technical standpoint, they use secure memory code, as Firefox is made on Rust, has better standards support, and its extension API implementations are better, also, Firefox is faster, lighter, and portable, Hell, it is even ported to ArcaOS, *BSD, System-V, Linux, Windows, and it even was on BeOS. But something I hate about Firefox is Mozilla, they've become wokes, braindead people bossing around talented coders and limiting them, not a good business models. GWGB.

[@qkzalswns]

I use Firefox and I have forced my family to do so too because it is noticeably faster even on faster machines, it has better UI, the whole privacy thing and DuckDuckGo that we use, the ease of use when connecting multiple devices to the same Firefox account and the synchronisation between them. I just love it so much more then whatever Google is doing rn.

[@inspectorvoid]

Didn’t the original Firefox dude start Brave browser?

[@LogicallyAnswered]

I’m not sure actually

[@You_are_wrong99]

yes

[@trappedcat3615]

Yes, he founded Brave. Mozilla let him go over his politics. Pretty messed up, if you ask me. It was an early manifestation of cancel culture eating their own.

[@amouramarie]

@@trappedcat3615 Cancel culture isn't new. It used to be called "shun the non-believer" and "don't associate with those queers" and "dishonorable discharge due to conduct unbecoming." Conservatives just gave it a new name when _they_ started being affected when people who didn't like _their_ actions.

[@iplayminecraft833]

"Firefox isnt preinstalled into there systems" Any linux distro be like:ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? atleast 30% of firefox users are linux users either they perfer firefox or they just clicked on it one time and installed something else

[@jonbikaku6133]

I have tested almost every browser in existence, even ones that use terminal to output websites, and while I love Firefox I'm completely switched over to Edge. Microsoft has done an amazing job with the new browser and it has the best performance by far. Even when it comes to privacy they have out of box DNT and ad blocker which makes it a very perfect browser for everyone. Just switch Bing to something like duck or Google and you're all set!

[@Samstercraft77]

MS Edge... and privacy?!?

[@jonbikaku6133]

@@Samstercraft77 yes its not as great as Firefox, but the overall speed and the basic privacy control they do provide makes it quite usable. Its like it lets you hide away data from other websites but you only give it to Microsoft lol

[@bunnyg1996g]

Agree

[@deewinc]

I use Opera on my Laptop because it's so good at saving the battery. Turns out, Google pays them over a billion dollars yearly to keep Google as the default search engine.

[@Tylermattrazzo]

I like how most people are okay with monopoly as long as their favorite browser stays alive

[@rayoflight62]

Google is about to release the the new API Manifest v3 for all Chromium browsers. The API controls all the interactions between the Chrome browser and all the extensions. Specifically, the call "Webrequest" will behave differently, so that the majority of current Adblockers will not work anymore, unless specifically modified - should it still be possible. This API change involves Chrome and all Chromium browsers. Firefox has a different web kernel compared to all Chrome -based browsers, which have a very complex program structure. I didn't know Firefox was directly supported by Google, but it doesn't come as a surprise to me...

[@DanDog91]

My main reason (besides ease of customization) is the ease of privacy with Firefox, esp. with DoH (DNS over HTTPS), with Firefox it is a simple checkmark in the network settings (as is now the default). In Chrome & Edge, if you modify privacy settings your installation gets the "managed by your organization" flag and the DoH option is greyed out. Since DoH is also a privacy feature that encrypts your browsing habits, I always found this counterproductive.

[@me-myself-i787]

10:40 Chrome is not a monopoly because there are good alternatives, including Safari, Firefox, LibreWolf, Waterfox, Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, and Edge. Having a high market share simply because most people choose your products over your competitors' products does not make you a monopoly.

[@EquaTechnologies]

I use hardened Firefox not because it's just Firefox. I use Firefox SPECIFICALLY for privacy.

[@jlinkpro]

I still use Firefox, mainly because compartmentalization and resource usages. Firefox allows for alt tabbing much more so, and seems to implement true separation of processes in that crashes in one context don't affect other contexts. Also true stateless and clean washed sessions are much easier to arrange for Firefox, and proxy implementation is far more transparent and configurable. Past all that, hooking the Firefox render engine is much easier, so plugin writing is easier. As a feveloper Firefox is the most respectful sandbox to develop in. For most common usage though, chrome is easier to use and faster in launch and general processes. Also, for light development such as WordPress editing or other script and config development, Firefox holds much less advantage. As far as acid compliance goes, safari seems to anecdotally have been the reigning champ, so all my design work is checked first in safari, as successful implementation there seems to carry acroas most well to other browser contexts.

[@jlinkpro]

Internet exploder and edge still both explode regularly though. I do final proofs with them to make sure they work, but that's about it. Sanity dictates keeping them at arms length.

[@vulgoalias4050]

It's a pity, that webkit was not mentioned. It's also a major reason, why use Firefox.

[@hypercrack7440]

Really? You of all people didn't know? Open-source company without ties is a myth

[@natalieeuley1734]

Firefox is the only developer-focused browser remaining. It has dev tools that blow the others out of the water. If it doesn't support a feature, it's almost always from the developer's angle as to why. The MDN docs are some of the best on the web. It's developers keeping Firefox alive and Firefox keeping developers alive

[@SonnyKlinger]

I used to use Firefox before Chrome launched... Eventually I switched to Chrome, but on the recent years, what really drove me the to switch back to Firefox was being able to install uBlock Origin on my Android browser...Then installed it also on PC to have both synchronised. Nowadays I'm perfectly happy with Firefox :)

[@lego_minifig]

I used to use firefox as my main browser. I loved it. Only reason why I switched away from it was I would have an issue every 8 months or so where it would become incredibly slow. (Like 10-20 seconds to load a webpage slow) I couldn’t find a fix beside purging all my data and starting over. Thats not a fun experience so I ended up switching to Brave. Still keep firefox installed though.

[@deadman746]

This sounds a lot like the plot of _Deus Ex: Invisible War,_ in which the competing coffee houses Pequod's and Queequeg's are owned by the same company.

[@eliyaex]

Firefox is also featured as default browser in many Linux distros

[@maouslime7735]

If chrome disabled adblock like how they announced, I am switching to firefox

[@DavidGolder]

We started using Firefox in the early 2000s because it was so much better than Internet Explorer. The level of functionality and expandability was unprecedented. IE didn't even have tabs back then. Ironically, Firefox began losing users for the same reasons. It started mimicking Chrome, lost a ton of extensibility, started forcing unwanted UI changes down the users' throats, etc.

[@fungo6631]

Here's a fun fact: 90% of the time even a browser several years out of date will still work just fine on desktop at this point. It's only on mobile that stuff goes fucky uppy when you use a browser from 2016.

[@skyfeelan]

I like the tab scroller and lazy loading, I can have 180 tabs and I can still see and choose the tab accurately (unlike chrome where it will shrink to obscurity)

[@addanametocontinue]

Curious to see how many people move from Chrome to Firefox once Chrome cuts off access for adblocking software.

[@GRCanalYT]

Note: Firefox is bundled on Fedora and Ubuntu (Snap pack in the case of Ubuntu)

[@GRCanalYT]

SPAM COMMENT BOTS ARE NOT ALLOWED

[@snk7]

I have been using Firefox since 2004 and still do. One reason is when you are downloading a File whatever the size, If your Router fails/ No connection by your ISP. You can still continue downloading it at the same point when connection is restored. Chrome and others don't have that ability.

[@chaosbringer5248]

I still use Firefox and i really miss the older versions where you can fully cuztomise Firefox via add-ons. Now I'm stuck with manually adding/editing/updating .CSS files.

[@HuntingKingYT]

Petition for Google to not block KZbin features in Safari (those are back when hijacking user-agent)

[@kaps8156]

I am a Vivaldi user its light, fast and fun to use at the moment its trying to create its own mini ecosystem before it even started trying this it already felt like it could be an entire operating system in browser form. Its also more responsive than Mozilla

[@kevinmcfarlane2752]

It is currently the most customisable browser besides Firefox and is the one for Firefox power users to go for, either as their No. 2 or if Firefox were to vanish. It's not currently my default but it is my No. 2 and could easily be my default.

[@olimpather]

The reason I use Chrome is a better support for Video Decoding. I don't care about RAM, I only care about how much CPU performance a certain program takes.

[@RenderingUser]

I'm a simple man I seen rounded edge rectangles in the gui, I click yes that is actually the reason I started using Firefox instead of chrome. chrome became too circular for my tastes

[@andrejbartulin]

Firefox is preinstalled on most GNU/Linux distros. I am happy Firefox user for half a year now and everything works fine except some extensions and chrome's remote desktop so I keep Chrome just in case, but I 98% of time I use Firefox

[@OnlajnIdentitet]

Another big one for Firefox: about:config, aka full control over your browser configuraton.

[@JacobP81]

My favorite browser is Firefox on PC (Windows or Linux). I use the Android version of Firefox also, however some things about the Android version are lacking.

[@aniruddhverma_]

The switch from google to firefox was god tier.

[@scotthullinger4684]

I'm a Firefox user. I believe their share is FAR MORE than just 7.69% market share. Are you kidding me? And nobody is going to make me believe that Firefox is "mostly funded by Google." Meaning what ... ? I hate all the others so much that I uninstalled them - Chrome, Edge, whatever else I might have sampled. If you use any product by Google, Chrome, KZbin, or whatever else, then they basically own you, because it's the default choice of almost everything in existence.

[@scotthullinger4684]

@@untilco - You won't convince anybody here that "Google funds Firefox." OMG, a laughable claim at best. Sheesh - If anything, Firefox survives SPECIFICALLY because of ad blockers. That is one of many things which makes it attractive. Plus there are several independent browser add-on programs which can do the same.

[@guaren6611]

Now that KZbin is forcing disabling ad blockers, the only solution for me was to use the same adblocker, but with Firefox. I am changing 100% to Firefox, I'm tired of Google being annoying and not respecting privacy.

[@ItsCryptic]

You’re not entirely right on the point that it isn’t pre-installed on any OS. Most Linux distributions ship with Firefox (due to it being open source)

[@ItsCryptic]

Firefox is a great browser. I use combination of Firefox and Brave.

[@nanashi2622]

Most Linux distributions have Firefox installed by default - so a huge portion of Firefox users are probably Linux users.

[@Liam-c5k]

Typing this on Firefox rn. I made the switch to Firefox years ago when I used a crappy laptop and it worked better, haven't changed since. Since then I also am more concious of my privacy and I respect the endeavours Firefox makes to improve that.

[@sundarrajn1003]

I am proud user of Firefox, not because I'm anti Google, I just like Firefox and prefer it. Have no issues using it to this day.

[@fullmontis]

Firefox comes preinstalled in all Linux distributions. Which isn't a massive percentage of the whole, but it's still bigger than people probably think.

[@Awesome_Aasim]

Almost every browser uses the Chromium project. Edge, Chrome, Opera to name a few.

[@danwake4431]

My favorite reason to use Firefox is the 'I dont care about cookies' extension that is not in chrome store, or at least it wasnt last time i looked.

[@beforedrrdpr]

Some manufacturers of laptops, mobile, or even pre-built pre-install Firefox on their device

[@SteepSix]

Firefox was the first browser to fully accept adblocking extensions and, for me at least, has always worked well. So as I'm now familiar with it, and cannot abide *ANY* advertising in my internet world, I remain loyal - and dependent - on Firefox!