Logitech Combo Touch vs Magic Keyboard Full Comparison

[@JerrySchulze]

Yes, the Logitech works with the 2018 and 2020 iPad Pro but does obscure the speakers a little bit. NO, the Air 4 will not work because it will cover the Touch ID.

[@cjane2501]

They have a case for Air 4 :) www.apple.com/shop/product/HPB92PA/A/logitech-folio-touch-keyboard-case-with-trackpad-for-ipad-air-4th-generation

[@JPK1337]

@@cjane2501 they also have the combo touch for the ipad air 4

[@chrisrybak4961]

What about the iPad PRO 11" ?

[@jefawegaming9389]

@@chrisrybak4961 They have a model for that.

[@mrmartywaring]

As I listen to you talk through the iPad with the Logitech Combo Touch, there is no voice distortion & you sound clear. My choice is the Logitech

[@JerrySchulze]

I was surprised that in the case it actually sounded better to me.

[@DerrickASwistak]

@@JerrySchulze I thought it was just me but it sounded better to me too.

[@SgtSlapmaster]

Yes reassuring to hear. That slight detail you noticed may be a very small gap for the sound to travel through - that or it doesn’t make any difference in front camera mode.

[@itriied5027]

I got an M1 iPad Pro with the Combo Touch and I love it so much!

[@ObjectFit]

Can confirm on headphones there is a difference and it is clearer

[@JonChenTS13]

I decided with the combo touch personally. Although the Magic Keyboard is nice, it's kinda pricey. The function keys and the ability to detach the Ipad is what made me choose the combo option

[@WiFeYBurGLeR1]

Logitech for the win. I don’t feel comfortable walking around with my 1300$ iPad without a case while I’m using it as a traditional tablet 75% of the time lol

[@mrdinosaurproductions9507]

You’re going for the worse keyboard just because you don’t wanna buy another case?

[@amirtorhan2762]

Logitech seems better in every way other than looks

[@benparkes9805]

I prefer it's looks tbf

[@nickc8477]

@@benparkes9805 same it protects the ipad more as well

[@DAXimusTT]

Yes!!! Finally someone who listened to us! Thanks for testing the mic. I would say it even sounds better with the Logitech case. Thank you.

[@JerrySchulze]

No problem!

[@guoxinverhoef5437]

I also thought that

[@barzogh]

Same thought

[@OmniDoh]

Without the case, sound bounced on the hard surface of the table. Mybe it sound better on hand or softer surface like a mattress.

[@IvanLai]

Finally someone that actually knows how to compare something. Great review.

[@JerrySchulze]

High praise. Thanks!

[@yahyatvaid]

@Paul Kryder as my math teacher would say GRAMMAR PEOPLE!!!!! (proceeds to use no grammar whatsoever)

[@BIGDEZUL]

Right

[@Ilkello99]

Yes there is a big difference: with the case on it sounds way better:)

[@JerrySchulze]

Strange, right?!

[@uwekonnigsstaddt524]

@@JerrySchulze Correct. With the Combo case, it sounds clear. Without it, it sounds like you are talking from the bottom of a barrel, the sound comes across “muffled”? It appears to be hampered, perhaps by the surface (table?) you are putting the iPad on. I think a better comparison would be between the Magically Expensive Apple keyboard and the Combo. Using Apple’s, there are no obstructions around the iPad’s microphones/speakers, while with the Combo there would be.

[@JerrySchulze]

@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 SO the first one was connected to the magic keyboard and no obstructions. the second one was in the combo touch case.

[@WorkingEveryDay]

Yep. Sounds better in the case

[@bmwjs1]

Wow I didn't expect this lol 😆 dang this feature alone might be worth getting it over the magic keyboard. SMH

[@MrChristophersilva]

With case, sounds better - odd but true

[@CaseyFleetMedia]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@yolk818]

Great review! I just recently bought both of them, and they both have their own pros and cons; the Combo Touch is great for tablet and keyboard use, I love having a detachable keyboard so I can draw, take notes, and read more easily, but having a separate app just to update the firmware for the keyboard is not ideal. I actually had to get 2 Combo Touches since the first one had a problem with the keyboard connecting after having it detached for too long, and both combo touches i got have a problem with the trackpad freezing. Not only that but the bigger footprint isn’t ideal, and it’s not easy to use in bed or on my lap. The Magic Keyboard on the other hand doesn’t have any issues with that, it just connects and that’s it, no need to worry about a separate app to update the firmware or anything. The smaller footprint is great for me and it’s also easy to use in bed and on my lap. Plus, the USB pass through is very handy. But then there’s no protection whatsoever when you take it out and also limited angles, not to mention no function row. It really is a tough decision! I wish there could be some good in between. Right now I’m leaning towards keeping the MK and buying a case for the iPad that can work with the MK but not 100% sure. Update: decided to keep the MK, the Combo Touch just wasn’t worth the trouble imo. Maybe I happened to be unlucky and got two faulty Combo Touches but yeah I can’t recommend it sadly

[@Babab.studio]

Your comment is useful! Thanks!

[@elizabeth3280]

hmm, was debating on buying the magic keyboard for office and touch on the go but dont want to mess with firmware. Has your ipad experianced any issues since installing the firmware? Was there a clean way to roll back the firmware?

[@yolk818]

@@elizabeth3280 no, no issues at all, the firmware is downloaded from an app onto the keyboard. if by rolling back you meaning removing it then i assume the firmware is deleted once you delete the app

[@elizabeth3280]

@@yolk818 So the firmware is installed onto the Keyboard and not the ipad itself? Typically Firware is configured to send instructions to your hardware on layer 1 not at the layer 2 software level. hmmm, will need to look into it thank you for responding though it was a useful comment.

[@yolk818]

@@elizabeth3280 yeah if the keyboard isn’t connected to the ipad (like it needs to be attached to the case) then you can’t update the firmware

[@Slurpy2k8]

I’ve watched DOZENS of these comparison videos (because I’m torn on which to get) and I think this is the best video I’ve seen. Touched on every single aspect, and I loved that the footprint was actually measured. Good job!

[@JerrySchulze]

Yay! Thank you!

[@kylanmiyazu4440]

Which one are you getting?

[@jazzjazz7627]

Which one you pick?

[@m107treal]

did you buy one?

[@howardeastin1474]

I have used both the Magic keyboard and just recently bought the Logitech combo touch. After owning the combo touch for over a 24 hrs, my initial impressions is that I love the Logitech over the Magic keyboard and I will share why. 1. Function keys….I got use to not having them on the Magic keyboard, through gestures and touching the screen to invoke Control center but when you have actual function keys, its nice to have faster input because you have dedicated keys for that action like raising the volume, screen brightness/keyboard brightness and then of course multi tasking. 2. Protection, the Combo touch protects our iPad all the way around the device, so you don’t have to worry about the device coming apart from the keyboard and dropping. Also what’s nice about the case is that it does not show oils or scuffs from sliding on surfaces. The surface of the Combo touch is a really nice durable material and is easy to clean. 3. The keys, all though I do prefer the typing experience on the Magic over the Combo touch, but I prefer the spacing of the keys on the touch. It may be a placebo affect, but they do feel different to me. 4. Angles, I do prefer the angels on the Combo touch over the Magic Keyboard. I don’t ever use it at the angles that are depicted in the video, but I have used both on my lap. What I have found by using it on my lap, is that the Combo I don’t have the kickstand out on my lap which means I hold the iPad from falling on one hand and the other I use for typing …This is not ideal, but honestly, how often does someone need to use this on their lap or if you need to use it on your lap why can’t someone just use dictation? 5. Lastly, the price, the price of the Combo touch, although still not cheap, it is cheaper than the Magic Keyboard. 6. TracPad, both TracPad’s are nice and I do prefer the one on the Magic because its a little more precise over the Combo, but having a bigger trackpad on combo touch is nice to have.

[@JohnvanGurp]

I’ve been using the Logitech for a few months and it’s just a super capable and ergonomically pleasing device, and because of the protection I’ll keep using it despite craving a little less bulk. There’s no way I would feel comfortable with a naked iPad… as nice as it feels. Logitech really did a great job with this combo case.

[@TdMe99]

Great video! I haven't bought an ipad in over 10 years. (the last one being the ipad 2). I was blown away by how far these things have come since the days of Steve jobs calling it the best internet browsing experience. With the best buy sale I bought the 2020 11 in Ipad Pro and also picked up the combo touch case as well as a nice matte screen protector. I'll be checking your channel out for more awesome content. You've earned my subscription!

[@JerrySchulze]

Very cool and thanks so much!

[@SpymarkStudio]

I got the Combo Touch for my 11” iPad Pro 2021 right when it came out, and I got so used to the function keys, larger trackpad, and the way the keyboard feels that when I tried Magic Keyboard at the Apple Store the other day just for the comparison, it felt like an inferior product. Like a downgrade. Though, I would still love a smaller footprint and an extra charging port. The Magic Keyboard is sexier, but having seen the combo touch on someone else’s iPad in a coffee shop the other day seemed kind of sexy too.

[@JerrySchulze]

I think they both look great. For me, the footprint made the difference and I am sticking with the magic keyboard.

[@talhatariq6420]

I read reviews that Logitech keyboard would randomly disconnect from the iPad or sometimes the iPad wouldn't respond to the keyboard. is it true that it has compatibility issues?

[@SpymarkStudio]

@@talhatariq6420 I have to say it’s pretty dependable in this regard. I can’t say it’s never gonna happen but it hasn’t happened to me yet. Back in 2017 when I had the Apple folio keyboard it was happening very often. It kept not responding. Then through years it got better as OS got better. I think by now the support and the software on both sides is pretty reliable, apple and logitech. However, I have a different and a bit funny problem with the keyboard. Since ipados15 sometimes when I disconnect the keyboard from the case Apple Music app starts playing a random song. It happens maybe once a week. I don’t even use apple music just Spotify so i don’t understand how disconnecting the keyboard can trigger that.

[@pnjnoodz8692]

I had to go with the magic keyboard at the end of the day, the combo touches dethatch feature is nice but its bobs up and down when you write on it, which makes writing really awkward. The MK just looks so sleek as well, especially with a custom skin on it. Also if money isn't and issue, get the pitaka ipad pro case with the new folio cover, and it is compatible with the magic keyboard, so you get very similar protection to the combo touch and the detachability.

[@thewilythylacine]

This is the best review of this case, and one of the best reviews of any product I have seen yet. Great work!

[@JerrySchulze]

Wow!!! Thanks you!

[@ShahrulKurtAdam]

Honestly, i wish Apple do learn from this Logitech Combo cause what we really want is to protect the iPad seamlessly even after detached it from the keyboard.

[@Cookefan59]

One of the better videos I’ve seen on this topic. I would add that a docking station solves the limited USB access. The angles and smaller foot print of the magic keyboard also puts the screen closer to your face. I have the same issue with my knuckles hitting the screen if the iPad is too close. I hate that. I think the Logitech is a no brainer. It seems to be way more functional and better thought out. I do wonder about those soft endpoints with the angle adjustment. It looks like if you treat it well it will probably last 2-3 years in the hands of a heavy user like myself.

[@extremelucky1]

I love the Combo Touch, how detachable it is, the build, and the Function Keys, but I still shelled out for the Magic Keyboard. It takes less space on a desk, is better on a lap, extra port, the keys are slightly nicer to type, and I like how it's slightly elevated.

[@donsmith2357]

Your reviews are excellent and give the every day person like me a thorough insight into the dos and donts of iPad. I am now a subscriber. Cheers and I look forward to learning a lot more. I am a senior citizen from Australia by the way so never too old to learn. Age is just a number.

[@JerrySchulze]

I really appreciate the comment. I hope to have some more iPad videos out in the next couple of months.

[@sideeyeingmoon]

Such credible and detailed comparison, not manipulating in any way just informative guidance towards a decisive buy. Thanking you!!

[@gios7752]

I was debating between the two and I opted for the Combo Touch. The Magic Keyboard is a great dock. It does what it does well. But I needed the flexibility of iPad and laptop. It protects the iPad very well. Function keys are useful and the materials are premium. Hopefully it will have a longevity.

[@DanielHarrisCodes]

Describing the magic keyboard as more of a dock is spot on. One thing I like about the older folio keyboard is being able to fold it back. The Logitech gives many of the benefits of the surface Pro range

[@johnblackmouth]

Selling point for the magic keyboard is that extra port. I like that I can charge while using the iPad and have an external storage device attached when editing. Also wired headphones are still a thing lol.

[@RangeRoversAreRad]

This is the best review I’ve found for these two accessories. Thank you/great job!

[@opiatesmile]

Nothing like needing an additional accessory to protect your $350 accessory.

[@Nothingatallllll]

youre so smart ryan

[@SlipKid1975]

That’s the Apple way. Surprised you haven’t caught on 😂

[@robliefeld2646]

I've watched about 15 reviews of the combo touch and the magic keyboard and this is by far the best review I've seen. Thank you. Subbed.

[@JerrySchulze]

Wow, thanks!

[@mikkelsvartveit]

Nice one, Jerry! The Logitech looks really appealing and would probably be my choice, but I feel like the Magic Keyboard scores some portability points considering the smaller table footprint. Probably a better experience when working in coffee shops etc.

[@JerrySchulze]

I think the footprint is probably the biggest factor for me. I would like the extra protection but so far I have never dropped or damaged an iPad.

[@midnightmythos]

I was worried about table footprint but after I started using the combo touch, I found it comfortably fits on even the smaller fold-out lecture hall style desks

[@joesmoke530]

Great video. I think the footprint and angle adjustments on the Magic Keyboard are too necessary for QOL. I think I'd get frustrated with the footprint of the Logitech, even though the case and kickstand would be really nice for writing and that layer of protection. and then having the thunderbolt port on the hinge side is just too cool. I think they are both equally impressive.

[@JerrySchulze]

Fair enough!

[@MrZola1234]

I think the Logitech is the better option for most people, just wish they would not have upped the price so much over previous versions. The sweet spot is about 150-179, half the price of Apples.

[@theamarothman]

Hi. Combo Touch user here, for the last eight months. What can I say is, right away after using the Combo Touch, it has never crossed my mind "Oh my, why didn't I get the Magic Keyboard?". That's how good the Combo Touch is. But hey, if you love the magic keyboard, go for it. What I'm saying is, neither one is a bad choice.

[@thomassankara2857]

The kickstand is a nono for me because I like the flexibility of using my iPad on my lap and on my desk. What happens if you do not have a desk? Just got my magic keyboard for $250 and I'm happy with that.

[@JerrySchulze]

Very nice!

[@xd-qi6ry]

As someone that has tried to use cases that are not sturdy for ipad for so long and now using a laptop stand with a mechanical keyboard and resting my ipad on it i really want the magic keyboard, its just so much of a hassle of things moving and not being sturdy on a lap

[@Dampfheini]

Iam often lying on the sofa having the the combo touch placed on top of me and its absolutely no problem at all.

[@taylorm.3005]

To me, I went with Logitech because the dealer breaker was the magic keyboard has no protection around the edges. My iPad is always in my backpack to and from school! Even on my my motorcycle in my bag, there’s lots of movement. The combo touch I can detach the keyboard as well and has a row of functions gives me more of a laptop feel. The only thing I hate is the hinge of the combo touch makes it tricky for “lap” use so I’m limited with where I can use it as a laptop if not at a table if using on my lap I just pop the keyboard off and use as a tablet :( but Atleast my iPad is protected !

[@howardeastin1474]

I have used both the Magic keyboard and the combo touch. Both keyboards have pros and cons but for me the combo touch came out as the winner and here is why. 1. Although the combo touch obstructs the use of the thunderbolt port, i still have access due to the dongle i use does not have to sit flush to the iPad for it to work. It connects via USB type c cord and its one I have used ever since owning the 2016 MacBook Pro. I also prefer the protection the combo touch offers over the Magic keyboard as I work out in the field and not behind a desk. So its nice that I don’t have to worry about dropping my iPad. 2. The touchpad, although the touchpad on the Magic keyboard is slightly more responsive than that on the Combo touch, its nice that it is bigger and I don’t have to carry out as many finger gymnastics when pasting and copying notes. 3. The price. Cheaper is cheaper, and right now savings is king with the added cost of everything due to inflation. It’s nice that the Combo touch is cheaper and offers more like a function row, non obstructed typing, more viewing angles, and the materials do not take on oils and smudges as easily. I work in field sales, visiting multiple stores in my assigned territory. The combo touch I feel is just more suited for my workflow than the Magic keyboard. Not to take anything away from the Magic keyboard, i just feel the Magic Keyboard is just more suited for those working in a stationary environment.

[@titustanlc]

Great comparison video. I learnt so much just by watching your review on every details. You even mentioned the charging port that some cable might have issue with the Logtitech Combo Touch. For its price, I am going to buy the Logitech new Combo Touch for my iPad Pro 11 2018. Thanks, Jerry!

[@JerrySchulze]

Very nice!

[@xavierlin2276]

After five months absolutely this is the best review of these two cases

[@j350zr7]

Hi Jerry, thank you for clarifying my question from your other video. The funny thing is you sounded more louder and clearer watching on my iPad pro 12.9 2020 when you demo the case on vs off. I’ll definitely go with the Logitech instead of magic keyboard (retails $449+gst=$471 CAD= ouchy). I have now subscibed. Much appreciated.

[@JerrySchulze]

Awesome! Yes, it was strange.

[@noblebrown]

It’s louder with the combo case. Maybe that indentation amplifies the sound -

[@Paul-if1jq]

I have both and the Logitech is better for me, I prefer to push the screen back more, the mouse pad is larger and easier to use, the thing I like the most is the added side protection...

[@IsaacNYC212]

Thanks for the review. I do want to point out Clearly Apple also approves of Logitech as well. It’s on of the few brands sold on their website and stores.

[@JerrySchulze]

Good point!

[@bjzach]

Brilliant comparison video. Hope to see more of the same. This is one video where I'm sure which option to go with!

[@netmanswe]

The Logitech’s footprint is it’s largest drawback. I used the Logitech Combo Touch on my Air 3 and that was a complete dealbreaker - and the fact that the magnets keeping the keyboard attached were way too weak on that one. To the point where I switched back to the Smart Keyboard and a Magic Mouse instead.

[@JerrySchulze]

Agree with the footprint.

[@f00f1ght3rs12]

Just got the combo touch for my 2021 iPad Pro and I really like it. If the magic keyboard didn’t cost double the decision would’ve been more difficult. With the features of the combo touch and the price point it isnt’t a comparison in my opinion. Sure the magic keyboard looks nicer, but it doesn’t offer protection, and at that price point it is a massive oversight by apple.

[@jomow9335]

When Apple products are not perfect, that’s because they don’t want them to be. Look for logical applications of this principle. WRT minimal protection for iPad in $300 keyboard case… they want you to drop it, as that means you will NEED apple care, after investing laptop money on a tablet…

[@f00f1ght3rs12]

@@jomow9335 in the case of the apple keyboard I 100% disagree. It’s all about the aesthetic and the apple keyboard looks futuristic in a non novel way with legitimate functionality.

[@jomow9335]

@@f00f1ght3rs12 perhaps, but for your take to be true, one would have to accept that there was no way to make it sexy AND protected… a claim I reject

[@zachertalksx8895]

Thanks for a well detailed review. The only problem I had really with the Logitech is when using the iPad to draw, the kickstand doesn't really offer sturdy enough support. Other than that, its a winner. I hope they fix this in the next gen.

[@TW-rd5ub]

The magic keyboard really puzzles me: lots of added weight for minimal protection, and it makes it impossible / uncomfortable to use one of the iPad Pro’s main features - the pencil. Though the Combo Touch looks like it flexes too much when laying almost flat - it’s not great if your drawing surface moves, and I’d be concerned about the longevity of the hinge.

[@JerrySchulze]

I use it on the magic keyboard at least 90% of time and am not a big pencil user but totally get that many want to be able to flip it around.

[@qimatswift4829]

I have an older combo touch and it helps to be able to fold the keys back and use the pencil and you can use the iPad in portrait mode that way. It just doesn’t really stand up in portrait mode. But totally agree with you, I wish the magic keyboard was more protective and then it might be worth it for me. I have a toddler!!!

[@JerrySchulze]

I wouldn't give a toddler an iPad Pro, lol.

[@crwhhx]

the typing on these two keyboards actually feels quite different. I personally like the trackpad and keys on the magic keyboard much better, but prefer better protection and detachable case on the ligitech

[@friscodog]

I'm mighty tempted by the Apple Magic Keyboard, for purely esthetic reasons. It just looks a thousand times more elegant, and that makes a difference. However, I'll probably go for the Logitech for the price. It's good to hear (from you and some other reviewers) that the keyboard itself is so good.

[@abrararifify]

Just to sway your decision a bit, I’m typing this on a Apple magic keyboard and the aesthetic reasons sell me. Not only that, but it’s infinetly more intuitive. The way the iPad just connects to the case magnetically and works right away is what makes the keyboard feel like an extension to the iPad. I can easily take off the iPad and put it back on without tussling with the case itself. Given its design, the Logitech keyboard really limits you on where you can use it. The Logitech keyboard may be more practical, but the magic keyboard is far more intuitive.

[@barthalaytude1383]

@@abrararifify have you dropped your ipad with the case on with any damages? i’m not sure if i wanna take the risk or not just because of the protection

[@tql3482]

This is a very good comparison video, Logitech should have paid you for promotion, this video has made a lot of people went for combo touch

[@JerrySchulze]

That would be awesome! lol

[@AppleWraps]

Thanks Jerry, That was the best comparison I’ve seen of these two keyboards. I appreciate the help!

[@JerrySchulze]

You bet!

[@moogle17]

Thanks for your review. I really like the extra protection of the logitech case but I really love and need the screen angle adjustability of the Magic keyboard...

[@kz7115]

Amazing comparison. Exactly what I needed to see.

[@melodieschellenberg906]

Very helpful! Before this video I was pretty lost, but after watching this review, I know exactly which keyboard I’m going to pick up. Love it!

[@JerrySchulze]

Great! Which one?

[@melodieschellenberg906]

@@JerrySchulze Logitech combo 🙏👍😀

[@jeanneprice6736]

That test of the microphone hole on the bottom…actually the second was better than the first( uncovered) to my ear.

[@royappelman2465]

Nice video. Is it not old fashion to use Inches? In modern countries we use Meter, centimeter or millimeter.

[@irene3797]

So glad they released 12.9 inch model, bought it right away when I saw it on Amazon

[@mabialaemile8541]

Honestly, when you detached the keyboard I was already on Amazon buying the Logitech 😅😅😅 didn't wait for the end 😅😅 Amazing video

[@JerrySchulze]

lol, thanks!!

[@ThibaultxDxCx]

I have the case on the 11 inch M1 and it’s not detachable 😳

[@rhiannn3416]

@@ThibaultxDxCx I just bought the 11'' Logitech combo touch just this Wednesday. It came supeerrrr early, I was expecting to get it next week but I got it today. The keyboard is definitely detachable, although it is a little hard to get off the hinge and magnets holding it are much much stronger and sturdier than I had assumed 😂 so its a good thing in the long run for sure.

[@michaeldodd9671]

@@ThibaultxDxCx did you buy the Logitech Combo or the Logitech Folio? The Folio is almost identical but the keyboard does not detach.

[@commentonly2380]

@@michaeldodd9671 I have been asking this question since forever and i really can’t find an answer 😭 does the folio touch works on 2021 iPad Pro 11 inch

[@gregjohnson720]

No sound obstruction. Great video.

[@MelissaAtwell]

When the bottom microphone hole is obstructed, the resulting recording was leaning to the left side of the stereo field, ever so slightly.

[@andrewsoh8592]

Thanks for a very comprehensive comparison! I just picked up the Magic Keyboard because I watch videos in my bed and I’m getting sore arms holding my 2021 12.9” iPad. Now I can do it on my bed table with ease! And yes, the forward tilt is a deal breaker for me!

[@JerrySchulze]

very cool, Glad I could help!

[@heideluciano4905]

You sound better with the keyboard

[@Tigerex966]

put some almost black rubber feet on the bottom of the magic keyboard. how are they in your lap?

[@JerrySchulze]

footprint matters in your lap and the magic keyboard is much easier in the lap.

[@Tigerex966]

@@JerrySchulze thanks

[@memsanders6490]

It’s a no-brained…Going with the Logitech. Thanks for the review.

[@JerrySchulze]

Any specific feature?

[@cathygao9386]

Quick question, for the combo touch, when you push it back to "drawing mode" and put pressure on it, does the ipad bob up and down? The hinge looks like it would fluctuate when you rest your hand and draw something on it. Thanks in advance!

[@JerrySchulze]

Yes it does

[@mikldude9376]

Great comparison mate , thanks for posting , both keyboard cases look good , i already have the magic keyboard on my air 4 , and i have no complaints it does the job well , although on occasion it has occurred to me it would be nice to have some extra functions like the extra row of keys on the Logitech , and these ipads being fairly expensive devices , i am always wary having a dropsy or some clumsy moment where the ipad may get damaged , so the extra protections on the Logitech keyboard do look attractive .

[@milehighed52801]

Precisely the info I needed to know. These keyboard cases are expensive. So, it’s important to know all you can as you will be living with it for awhile. One other tidbit I might have missed though. Did you mention the battery drain for both keyboards? If you did, my apologies. Another great video! Thanks, Jerry!

[@JerrySchulze]

Thanks for watching. I did not mention battery life and sorry for that. With general use I am not seeing any difference in battery life between the 2 but I have not done any formal testing.

[@milehighed52801]

@@JerrySchulze Thanks for your quick reply. FYI, I thought the same on the Logitech keyboard sound. It sounded better with it on to me, as well.

[@vcp365]

I’m so undecided about this... I think I’m getting both!!!

[@johnbelfiglio562]

Typing on the Combo Touch right now! Love it. I think that blocking the bottom mic sounds more clear. Less tinny.

[@rsngrl]

i wish the logitech made this combo without the trackpad! i love how it detaches, but i want the smaller footprint of the folio. i still love the function of the apple smart keyboard, although i've had two self destruct on me, and they are not available for the pro.

[@JerrySchulze]

So they have the Slim folio option for the 11 and the 4th gen 12.9 geni.us/ne4B . Problem with he 12.9 5th gen is that it is thicker so may not fit in the case.

[@rsngrl]

@@JerrySchulze i don’t like how you have to touch the keys when they are folded back, which is why the removable keyboard option looks great. i am gonna upgrade from my old ipad to a pro soon so i was disappointed to see the original Smart Keyboard is not an option for the Pro. the way it folds up is perfect.

[@E.Carrillo]

I have the magic keyboard and love it. I do not have any scratches on the sides; nor do I have an issue with my hands touching the screen when I type.

[@JerrySchulze]

great!

[@jude23taylor]

This was highly informative ! You helped me out tremendously .

[@JerrySchulze]

Fantastic!

[@honestjoe632]

The fact that even when I detach the keyboard with the combo touch my iPad is still protected is big for me. These iPads are super expensive now making protection ever more important. The function keys also make for a much better experience

[@marmojalott]

They both are great and all it depends on your needs. I preferred the Combo Touch because it makes me feel that it protects my iPad. It also feels a little tough and indestructible, Finally, because of my job, the thunderbolt port is not a big deal or something that I need. Great video! :)

[@tvseller1]

I actually preferred the sound of the mic coming thru the Logitech. A bit more low end. Thanks for the excellent review. Heavily leaning towards the Logitech.

[@JerrySchulze]

Thanks for watching!

[@bboyshotty]

as much as I was 100% sold on the magic keyboard, after watching comparison videos, including this one, I am now going for the combo touch mainly because of the extra protection. As much as I want the Magic Keyboard for the magnet/ease of detaching, it wouldn't be safe/I wouldnt feel safe doing so OUTSIDE of my house. I could see a scenario if I had extra cash to buy both. But thats definitely not anytime soon lol. Thanks for this

[@JerrySchulze]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@bboyshotty]

@@ballooneyjr4294 i ended up caving but getting a cheaper used one lol. Great buy IMO..it really does add an extra "feel" to it, but still overpriced lol

[@bboyshotty]

@@ballooneyjr4294 haha for sure..its just funny because the ipad pro was already a splurge purchase so the idea of paying that much for a keyboard was a big no to me and I was sold on the Logitech one..aaaand look at me now lol. Glad I bought it though!

[@coolzxr]

there is a difference between the mic setup, but i like the covered up bottom mic more

[@Doodles.andthings]

Also. I have taken my dremmel to the sides of this case recently to add USB C dongles etc . So it fits on the sides.

[@CarlosICardenas]

I don't mind sanding the surrounding side of the usb c hub in the case to plug something, I've done it before for cellphone cases.

[@jacksonj3082]

Excellent review Jerry - for me the iPad Pro is used when traveling, on the go, or going to meetings so functionality and protection are most important to me - so the Logitech Combo Touch is my choice.

[@JerrySchulze]

Thanks for sharing!

[@joshin1815]

The combo touch is $200 cheaper than the Magic Keyboard in Australia, seems like a no brainer to me.

[@JTB--]

Don’t think the Logitech Touch kickstand would be practical for someone wanting to actually have the IPP sitting on their lap/legs while lounging on the couch or a recliner. MK looks like the better choice for that type user

[@JerrySchulze]

I agree with you.

[@DrSSC243]

With the Logitech case on it, the sound is way better. Maybe it is an echo effect that enhances the sound.

[@devincutting3198]

I love both of these cases and have always wanted to have and use Apple's... sadly though I wish they would take elements from Logitech like a full-body shell (that's also detachable) and still have the "magic keyboard" aesthetic and design. I personally just feel like it would make the keyboard case more valuable cost-wise and a great option altogether.

[@reyesespinosa7276]

Sorry for asking so many questions, but could you tell me if there is a key in the combo case that allows you to take screenshots?

[@JerrySchulze]

You can use cmd shift 3 like on a Mac.

[@exdroidz]

I wonder if you can plug the Anker thunderbolt hub into the iPad with the Logitech combo touch. The case does not seem too thick and I feel like with a little push it can end up fitting?

[@JerrySchulze]

i dont have that dock but it may be possible. the silicone will probably stretch.

[@goodguygreg6963]

You deserve as many subscribers as MKBHD, man! Such an in-depth review!!

[@JerrySchulze]

I appreciate that!

[@Nappylox71]

WOW! I hadn’t even thought about flipping the keyboard around. Great idea!

[@antoniojpneto]

Thanks! I have a 2018 12.9 iPad version!

[@raymcbarron581]

I literally watched this video in Best Buy with both in my hand just trying to justify the extra money to an already expensive Christmas present. In the end , the Logitech won . Both do the exact same job . But one has a lot more protection. Great video..

[@JerrySchulze]

Wow!!! Very cool!

[@FloeticEnigma]

I had the Logi combo case for a day or two on my 11” iPad Pro, but it’s bulky and the kickstand with keyboard it too much to comfortably fit anywhere I wanted it. I upgraded to the M1 12.9” and I have the Magic keyboard. I’ve never actually used a keyboard as much as I do now. This is convenient, easy to use and with the float, it raises enough for me to play the games I like without the keyboard being in the way. Plus I got it for $200 brand new, so it was a no brainer, lol. I’m considering buying a CoverBuddy so that the iPad itself is protected if it ever falls.

[@JerrySchulze]

Thats great! I actually have a video on the CoverBuddy.

[@FloeticEnigma]

@@JerrySchulze that’s good to hear. I’ll check that out.

[@iangrant3615]

This is an excellent comparison video. Thank you very much.

[@JerrySchulze]

Thank You!

[@alscarpa6177]

I have both keyboards and like both but overall I prefer the Apple keyboard.. I prefer the protection of the Logitech but I prefer how the Magic Keyboard places the iPad Pro much closer to you. If I am traveling I prefer the Logitech as the I am afraid that the White Apple keyboard will get dirty and if in the unlikely case that it dropped the Logitech would provide more protection. Another advantage of the Logitech is that if I am using the iPad without a keyboard then I prefer the protection of the Logitech. I am most likely to drop the iPad if it is not on a keyboard. In actual use I find myself changing almost daily in between keyboards which makes me crazy but I switch cases on my iPhone so I should calm down about this and enjoy both cases for different uses.

[@Gazziza29]

I’ll add another player to this, the Zagg ProKeys. It’s similar to the Logitech in that it has a surrounding case that is detachable from the keyboard. There’s also a nice magnetic attachment for the pencil as well. I think for me, I valued the protective case which the Apple Magic Keyboard does not offer. I was able to get the Zagg Prokeys for 40% during a BF sale so there’s that as well.

[@uwekonnigsstaddt524]

Jerry, I understand the iPad now supports a mouse? After waiting for the expected review on Apple’s latest iteration on the iPad Pro, I’ve finally ordered it. Thanks to you and the rest of the “Tech Test Pilots”. Thanks for the review!!! Be safe

[@JerrySchulze]

Thanks!

[@MarcosElMalo2]

It’s supported a mouse over the last few versions of the OS, although you’d need a special overpriced lightning-to-usb dongle and/or a hub to use with a lightning connector iPad. The USB C iPad Air and the new M1 Pro don’t have this issue, although you probably will need a USB C to USB 3 adapter to use with a garden variety USB mouse. Of course, you can just use a Bluetooth mouse and avoid cables, dongles and adapters.

[@elmartos]

Look, I loved the Logitech case. I got one for my first iPad and another one for the iPad Pro. But let me tell you. It’s not worth it. The edges in my first case, as well as the parts next to the speakers, started stretching out. I though this was because maybe I had accidentally pulled on them, so when I got the second case (hitch is even thinner around the edges) I made sure not to touch them. Still, I had the same exact problem. It’s gotten so bad that one of the edges actually broke, and its stretching out to the point of showing the Inter parts of the case. I got the Logitech keyboard for the cheaper price, kickstand, and very importantly, protection. But if the edges are breaking they might as well not be there. I also checked on Reddit, and this has happened to an extent to so many people. Its ridiculous that a product this expensive breaks within less than a year of purchase, and although I checked and it has warranty, a replacement unit would have the same issue. The case also completely stopped working after the iOS 16 update, and as a student I can’t afford to not be able to write for a week. If you’re on a budget a mouse and a Bluetooth keyboard works wonders. I’ve been using them and it’s incredibly comfortable. I do give points to Logitech in that they have been able to give me a refund, since it has a 2 year warranty, but that’s all I can say about it. The case was really really good while it lasted, but it has no longevity. 2/10

[@rosemarykesselring562]

I own the logitech and I had no idea until now you could flip the keyboard around!

[@JerrySchulze]

Great!

[@talhatariq6420]

I read reviews that Logitech keyboard would randomly disconnect from the iPad or sometimes the iPad wouldn't respond to the keyboard. is it true that it has compatibility issues?

[@rosemarykesselring562]

@@talhatariq6420 Yes, sometimes it disconnects at random. It's pretty annoying.

[@jordanking7711]

To my ears Jerry the microphone sounds clearer when the iPad Pro is in the case than when it's out of the case. Not sure why, but to my ears it does anyway.

[@JerrySchulze]

Crazy, right?

[@xd-qi6ry]

Cant you just use a backless case for the magic keyboard for side protection?

[@JerrySchulze]

Like a bumper case? There is a case called CoverBuddy that works for the magic keyboard. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqjFZqSJeMedpJo

[@xd-qi6ry]

@@JerrySchulze yup

[@Dorito230]

Logitech makes some good stuff, man. They continually innovate. Great stuff.

[@JerrySchulze]

Thanks!

[@dannybuoyuk]

I bought both, but kept the Apple Magic Keyboard. The Logitech is awkward to use on a lap - you have to keep your knees close together and push the keyboard right up into your belly, and the screen feels much further away. The Magic Keyboard also wins on a cramped desk or plane/train tray table. The Logitech needed a much harder press on the trackpad to register clicks, it was only working for me 1 in 4 presses. It is more versatile though and the material is much more durable.

[@JerrySchulze]

I agree with everything you said.

[@IAMCHIDERA]

Oh thanks so much for saying that. I’m a student and I love apple’s trackpads I used brydge but the track was not good at all and I highlight 100’s of questions a day I need a good trackpad I guess I’ll stick to my magic keyboard then

[@MichaelLochowitz]

The thing I like about the magic keyboard is that it is easier to use both the keyboard and touch together. Your fingers are much closer to the screen with the magic keyboard.

[@JerrySchulze]

That is the best part of the iPad. Options for control.