Logitech G PRO Racing Direct Drive [REVIEW] LOGITECH NAILED IT WITH THIS NEW RACING WHEEL!

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[@SimRacingCorner]

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[@TheBubblejones]

Bought this wheel based on all of the great reviews. I specifically bought this wheel for PSVR2, GT7, and Trueforce. The absolute best combo imo. Totally addicted now. No regrets. Worth every dollar. Only issue now is I find it difficult to play a racing game that doesn’t support Trueforce. One time, the wheel glitched and Trueforce stopped working on GT7. Wow what a difference it made. The wheel suddenly felt empty. The FFB was still strong and working, but all of the other sensations were gone! I realized how much more immersion Trueforce was adding and rebooted the wheel to get it back. No kidding. My ButtKicker stopped working the day I got the Pro wheel and really haven’t missed it since. You can feel the added vibrations through the racing rig. Not as strong as the ButtKicker, but the haptics are definitely much more refined and actually useful. One of the best is the sensations of the front tires scrubbing when your car starts to under steer. Truly amazing stuff!

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

Same...no regrets.....I did go a bit further and put my rig on four corner spring isolators with the bass shakers (Dayton's) on them and now simhub works with GT7 so now I can feel what all four tires are doing....sweet

[@PodiumTuningRacing]

​@@snoopy_peanuts_77Can I get more info on your console setup please? I'm building a dyi rig with this wheel/pedals but would love to consider what you implemented here. Do you have any videos or reddit thread going into detail?

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

@@PodiumTuningRacing hey there....well no sorry I dont have any videos uploaded but there are a couple of reviewers on youtube who did it (kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6HXdZKPbs-HmMU) ....I have a 4080 rig (similar to trak racer TR80) with a bucket seat. I added the four corner Slip-Angle haptic system (you can google that and it will take you to their website). It's a four corner bass shaker system (Dayton's) that are mounted on the four spring Isolators that your rig then sits on. It's connected to my PC via usb with SimHub running which then looks for the signal from your PS5 (they have to be on same home network-simhub has instructions on what ports to open on your pc to listen for your PS5) It then send the telemetry to the bass shaker units to interpret what the road is doing...you can customize the effects in simhub. good luck,...its amazing

[@Loudlevin]

I dont understand this love affair with trueforce, i have it disabled as i found it to be utter shit. I dont want engine rpm sent through the wheel at all times. Some people seem easily impressed with gimmicks.

[@WalkingLegacy]

Bought this wheel because of your review. Thanks Sim Racing Corner. I hope my time with it is as good as your experience. Cheers

[@SimRacingCorner]

I'm sure you'll have a great time with it. I don't get the chance to get this back on the rig often. Which is a shame. I'm swapping hardware out on the rig constantly, like a game of musical chairs. And the mounting process for this wheelbase is rather awkward to set up on my rig each time. That wouldn't be an issue if it was my one and only wheelbase, but a bit of a pain for my circumstances.

[@starkalarm]

I’m currently running the SC2 Sport with Huesinkveld Sprint peddles but I’m going to box those away for this wheel and peddle set. If I wasn’t going to play on the ps5 I would more than likely keep with the sprint peddles. This wheel base looks very interesting, looking forward to when I have it in my hands.

[@curleex3838]

I didn't know this was 11nm, saw a review of this wheel base that said it was only 2-3nm so god know what he was on about lol...! Great review pal....!

[@Sithhy]

Do know which video was it? I want to see that

[@curleex3838]

@@Sithhy ive probably watched 100s of vids since then bud but I'll definitely have a search just to make sure i heard it right lol

[@alangoyeau]

You may have watched a video for 920/923.That is their specs.

[@THIS---GUY]

I'm torn between the logi pro and fanatec gt DD pro. Thanks for the excellent review.

[@RyKnocks]

They're in a different class IMO as far as FFB goes with the Logitech being better. Ecosystem, Fanatec still wins.

[@michaelmarchione6903]

I just ordered this a couple days ago because of the reviews Ive seen. It just looks incredible. Comes in tomorrow and I cant wait to replace my TS-PC. In regards to monitor mounting, is there enough space between the shifters and the base to slide my middle monitor inbetween the 2?

[@SimRacingCorner]

The gap is about 3 inches, hope that helps.

[@stefanschuchardt5734]

Did your Logitech wheel arrived? How are they in comparison?

[@michaelmarchione6903]

Yea it arrived! Im loving the force feedback, but the wheel itself is..... well its meh. Its a good size, and has all the buttons and knobs youd want, but the buttons themselves are about the least tactile Ive ever felt. The leather wrap is slick, even when wearing my gloves (Racequips). I wouldve much rather they used alcantara as the wrap. Ive noticed (only in iRacing) that shifts are SOMETIMES delayed. It has seemed to be completely random. Happens occasionally every few races. Overall, I recommend it with a grain of salt. Firmware could use some updateing and I dont particularly think the wheel itself is worthy of the base. The FFB though. It really does stand out. Its crisp, feels immediate, and has TONS of detail. Havnt messed around with trueforce a hole lot. Ive had it set at 15 in GHub since day one, and its added a good extra level of immersion. Until logitech has more wheels, or releases a standalone QR for third party wheels, I would wait. Once that happens, this base will compete with the best of them.

[@ianknight2053]

Many thanks for your excellent review. I’m not a lover of the look of the base or the wheel either to be honest. I mainly race formula cars so would have appreciated a choice of wheels on release. I don’t really want to pay for a wheel I’m not going to use so it’s a difficult decision. Moza, Logitech, or wait to see what Thrustmaster have to offer next week. I also see a company called Asetek have just released 3 new wheel bases and a few different wheels to go with their pedals. I have a Thrustmaster T300 and open wheel at the moment, will the difference in performance be worth the expense please? Thank you.

[@SimRacingCorner]

Yes, I do think it's worth it. It also makes racing games more engaging and exciting with the higher forces and effects.

[@ianknight2053]

@@SimRacingCorner Thank you. I suppose we should be grateful we have a few DD bases to chose from now.

[@SimRacingCorner]

Yeah, there's a good selection of options out there now.

[@adambrown5903]

Do you know if it is possible to plug the new g pro pedals into an older Logitech g29 base? Thanks for the great content

[@SimRacingCorner]

The Pro pedals have a USB plug. They won't go into into the older wheelbase. But you can plug them directly into a PC.

[@adambrown5903]

@@SimRacingCorner thank you for the reply. After I wrote to you I actually looked at my wheelbase and realized that it wouldn’t be possible. Thanks again for the great content.

[@supercededman]

Logitech released an adapter recently which allows the pedals to be used with the G29 :-)

[@Jmab-rv7jc]

This much better than the fanatec dd pro?

[@SimRacingCorner]

Yes

[@Jmab-rv7jc]

@@SimRacingCorner much better? Damn. Then that logitech is really something.

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@Jmab-rv7jc Yeah it is a lot better.

[@Loudlevin]

The problem is any wheel in the future that they decide to release (crickets) , will always have the same xbox/playstation micky mouse buttons. They will never release a hardcore realistic wheel or accessory, only console looking kids toy look.

[@Trk-El-Son]

But when you look at the G Pro after looking at Fanatec GT DD Pro, then you have another perspective on what looks and feels like a kids toy. 😀

[@storypunman]

@@Trk-El-Son True, that Fanatec looks like a toy, plastic coloured buttons and crappy plastic quick release.

[@jaythehybridyt9031]

I wish the steering wheel was 13”

[@storypunman]

When people say this wheel is too expensive they don't factor in that the return policy is 30 days and the warranty is 2 years. Fanatec is 14 days and 1 year. So the G Pro is twice as long. After purchase warranty and service matter on expensive products.

[@briandhoward6137]

And if you order from fanatec you may not get it for months.

[@storypunman]

Yeah, and lots of videos about bad customer service and broken products.

[@kennyagne2922]

i just got mine last week coming from a 8nm fanatec dd, i have mine set at 6nm on the logitech and it so much more detailed than the fanatec, the only thing im hoping for is a pro shifter and more options for the wheel im preety they would get more options since logitech is a huge company

[@SartaroBanco]

Logitech's customer support is unmatched compared to other brands, specially fanatec. Also compatibility and easy of use is also really good. I don't care that much about how it looks, I care much more about how it performs, and this wheel excels in everything. Yes, it seems expensive, but it pays off down the road, specially considering durability and reliability. Thanks for the review.

[@KeithZim]

How could you know if its durable or reliable? We could not possibly know anything about reliability until someone puts a few hundred hours on one. Logitech is very much known for cutting a fine line between quality and price. I had to stop buying their keyboards. Sure, they replaced all 3 of them once but I got sick of the down time( I bought a new keyboard instead of waiting on RMA everytime and gifted the RMA to others) . And Im using a Logitech mouse that was RMA just this year. And just to bring it into fine focus, this newegg brand Rosewill mechanical has lasted 3 times longer then a logitech and has nearly lasted as long as all 3 combined...... ALL 3 KEYBOARDS COMBINDED!!!!!!.. Logitech makes trash.......

[@SartaroBanco]

@@KeithZim Are we still talking about wheels? 'Cos I was talking about logitech wheels. We are not talking about the same thing.

[@KeithZim]

@@SartaroBanco We are talking about Logitech products. He claims these are durable and reliable as a reason to purchase and I presented testimony about my personal experience. It may not be possible to make a reliable product at this price point. I know they struggled mightily with mechanical keyboards and I gave up after spending $500.00. I am also interested in the Moza wheel and the answer to this product that Thrustmaster is most certainly working on. Or, I may just say WTF and go all in. I have tasted the good Koolaid at a demo an oh boy did it leave a lasting impression. ...

[@SartaroBanco]

@@KeithZim Again, there is no "we are talking about logitech products" here. It's only you. You are talking about other products, while I am talking only about Logitech wheels. So your testimony is invalid in this case. Logitech wheels have plenty of testimony that says they are reliable and last "forever".

[@alexlarrea7363]

@@KeithZimI’ve raced about a hundred hours and it’s holding up pretty good. In separate occasions I have 4-6 race stints as well. Impressive

[@Alex-FFM]

I own this wheel since few weeks and it’s bonkers!!!! It’s just amazing and true force set correct is madness. It’s like feeling the road also when driving straight ahead. All other wheels do not have any effects while driving straight on a flat and smooth surface. If you thinks about getting one: do not hesitate. Cheers

[@THIS---GUY]

Have you tried the fanatec gt DD pro to compare?

[@supercededman]

@@THIS---GUY I've got both. I've a rig at my partner's house. The Logitech is waaaaaaay better. If you can put up with the lack of extra wheels and peripherals - at this point - you would not regret getting the G Pro.

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

Agreed ...it;s bonkers.....have it for about a year and I'm still amazed how immersed and giggly I get at times really feeling the car on the road...they need to stop messing round nd release some damn wheels and a shifter

[@notnitropex1192]

Top quality video here, all well rounded and perfectly explained. I am sure I won't regret the purchase.

[@Joshi069]

Your description of TrueForce and how the wheel translates that was great 👍 thanks mate! Was tossing up this or the Fanatec Podium package. Going Fanatec I think

[@mywalter777]

the cost is 1400 euros with a discount of 100 euros on the pedals directly at the checkout. logitech is the only one that gives you free shipping!! do you think they will make further discounts on this bundle during black friday?

[@SimRacingCorner]

It's too new to get discounted so soon. Next year Black Friday and we might see it reduced.

[@Gepeperde]

bf sale 50€ off 🤣

[@richeyrich6855]

Great video! Thank you for making this, my Pro Wheel & Pedals are scheduled to arrive this weekend. I have a big question regarding what I believe is the (300 Watt power brick). Does it have to be connected directly to an outlet or can it be connected to a Panamax Surge Protector / Conditioner which is what I have connected to the Home Theater that my Simulator is connected too. Thank you in advance, Richard

[@hughxthexhand]

I have several DD bases and the Logitech Pro is among the best, the FFB is spot on. the 11Nm of torque is the game changer over bases that are lower, the best thing about the Pro's 11Nm is it's completely usable at max FFB unlike other DD bases that clip and the FFB becomes noisy. I still mainly use my DD1 podium because I really like the rims available and I have been using it for almost 3 years. When Logitech release more rims and some extra peripherals I'll probably main the Pro. I really really like TruForce, the older G series wheels TruForce was very bland but it's excellent on the Pro. I love the quick release

[@supercededman]

This I have the Fanatech DD Pro as well as this. Everything u say is spot on, particularly the QR. The DD Pro wheel mount rattles under load due to its cheap construction. Lol, Fanatech are now charging extra for an 'updated' QR which only now matches Logitech and Moza. Clowns.

[@bratamic1]

*IMPORTANT WARNING*: Do not buy this item and make the mistake I did. Logitech (( DO NOT )) carry spares or have service centres. I had to throw the gpro wheels and pedals into the bin for the sake of a $2 part and even the smallest of issues after the unit is out of warrenty will result in the unit being bricked. Stick to an item with aftersale support and spares.

[@LithonTheBlack]

Great review mate... Thanks for that. Ordered mine last week (7th) and still waiting for shipping. Hopefully will be this week coming. I've never used a DD and i'm coming from a t500rs, so i'm sure i'll be impressed and it'll be worth the wait. Once again, cheers for the great, honest review. 👍👍

[@SimRacingCorner]

Oh Yes, you will be impressed, you'll discover FFB effects that you didn't know were there. It more fun with a DD too.

[@MrMikap74]

Hey man, and how does your upgrade to dd felt?

[@LithonTheBlack]

​@@MrMikap74 Hey dude, pretty great so far... Had some issues with GHub software after they did one of the updates but managed to sort that and it has been pretty solid since. Not used a DD wheel before this one, so unfortunately i have nothing to compare it too. Compared to the T500rs belt driven wheel, it is far more responsive and much smoother. You don't get that overshoot when the wheel centres itself and also catching oversteer/understeer/spins is much more intuitive. Still tatting with settings and dialling it in for different games/cars etc... Not had much time over the holidays to play but so far i'm loving it. Thanks for asking mate. Hope you and your family have a great new year. Cheers.

[@skynick77]

Hello @lithon, how’s your Pro doing after a few months? I own a belt drive and just put this bundle in the chart thanks to so many good reviews as this one is. Bests

[@LithonTheBlack]

@skynick7720 Hey mate, Yeah my Pro has been working pretty solidly. I made my own sim rig and have fitted tactile transducers etc.... I play almost exclusively in VR as i do not have a triple monitor setup. Night and day over the old t500rs :D Unfortunately my mother passed away just over a week ago, so i haven't been able to play recently and maybe wont be able to for a little while longer. You wont regret this wheel, it feels amazing. My only gripe was with the GHUB software resetting all my settings after updates..... But i just disable auto update and just update the GHUB app manually every couple of months.

[@kason9194]

What happens for example in GT7 if I set the max torque to 5/10 and on the wheel I set it to say 5 nm? Does this mean the effective max torque would be 2.5 nm?

[@weswheel4834]

Thanks for the review. Compared to the R9+RSv2, it isn't really that much more expensive. Plus, if I did buy that Moza combination then I'd need to buy the GS wheel as well which makes the Logitech much cheaper :)

[@jn1211]

I REALLY wish this was available a few months ago when I picked up my tgt2, I'm a worthless cripple waiting to die on a fixed income, and the money I got was a settlement from my government for having me raped and tortured in foster care due to being too savage to be raised with my own people. So I wasn't going to keep that money very long. still love my tgt, but I really was looking for a DD wheel, but that just wasn't feasible with my budget in my area.

[@mackelby1]

Easy on yourself. You are not worthless. You are loved!! Take care friend.

[@martin2k]

Great Video! Given the fact that you have the PC/PS Version - did you give GT7 a try?

[@killerweed8260]

This is a good review well done mate I own this wheel and it’s awesome I was going to get a different set up but I am glad I got this 👍

[@robertcarr4172]

You would think that they would have released an f1 inspired rim seeing as they sponsor McLaren 🤔

[@fitchyyboi]

I bet you they'll be releasing one eventually, this rim is more diversely usable so it makes sense.

[@chen-yu8888]

😄謝謝你的測試報告...我正在和Logitech G PRO Racing Wheel 與Moza R9 之間考慮🤔

[@benjith82]

I own one as well as I was impressed by all the reviews (yours as well) how good the FFB is. And as a beginner who owned Fanatec CSL Elite wheelbase and Thrustmaster T300 for short times, I am totally happy with it. The FFB is awesome and I am amazed by DD compared to the older systems I owned. However, I would like to see a F1 Wheel for the G Pro. And as one can see in your reviews, the LEDs on the G pro don't function with every game yet. I don't know if it is a Logitech problem or a software problem with the games. I usually play F1 2022 and it doesn't function there either (I play on XBOX Series X). If I open G Hub on PC there is feedback on the LEDs as you set them up. But other than that, I haven't been able to make them work in-game. In conclusion, your reviews made me buy the Logitech over Fanatec and I don't regret it at all. Hopefully an F1 wheel add-on will make the sim-racing feeling more immersiv soon (after all Logitech markets the wheel with F1 driver Landon Norris!!!???). But other than that I am totally happy 🙂

[@TheInsaiyan]

I would love to know it would be possible to mount a custom wheel on it, like a drift wheel or a 380mm wooden one for my vintage racing. But i haven't heard any information about that from anyone..or if that's even doable with mods. If that were possible I'd order it today especially bc it comes with a decent wheel out of the box for modern race cars.

[@THIS---GUY]

I've heard you can use the playstation base and later when they sell wheels seperately you can use an Xbox wheel and thus able to use both consoles like fanatec

[@SimRacingCorner]

I've heard that too. I can't confirm that from any personal experience, but it does seem plausible.

[@harrygaylordrums]

Simagic Alpha Mini (much nicer and smaller base) with the GT1 R round rim comes in about 30 quid more expensive to this. QR on Simagic is better, base is peak 13nm instead of Logi 11 and the wheel rim is much nicer quality. If you are on PC I don't see why you would go for this Logitech?

[@SimRacingCorner]

Simagic Alpha Mini is 10nm.

[@youuuusef]

@@SimRacingCorner It's advertised as 10nm but has been measured IRL as 13nm. Harry is correct.

[@wavybabylive]

Please help me pick my parts

[@orangechannel4862]

It is very nice to see that logitek is not stagnating, but is developing and making a really competitive product. Only the price and the incredibly ugly steering wheel are very confusing. I'm really looking forward to a normal dd, at a price with СSL DD, but without an expensive quick release at a price of half the base itself. There was only hope for the crunchmaster.

[@SimRacingCorner]

The Moza R9 is maybe what you're looking for. It's an ideal alternative to the CSL DD.

[@orangechannel4862]

@@SimRacingCorner I'm not sure about the p9, but the p5 is sold at an adequate price. However, the steering wheel there is also small and poor, and it costs absurd money to order a normal one from abroad.

[@SimRacingCorner]

The Moza R5 steering wheel is decent quality, but indeed is small, but that's to ensure you get the most out of the wheelbase torque. I've reviewed the R5, so it's a balance that makes sense when I'm using it.

[@mangs9940]

What I would like to know is what arcade racers will work with this wheel. Obviously the ones on the official list. But what about older games like grid 2, dirt 2/3 , NFS series. There is an g923 compatibility mode. Does this mean it will work with all games that worked on g923?

[@Mr_Latte_UK]

Great coverage of this product. What I would love to know is if this wheel base on PS5 can be used with PC Hardware pedals and one of the popular adapters like Drivehub? Nobody seems to have an answer for that.

[@gabrielglenn1714]

Pleasa friend what are your settings controlled by on wheel display?

[@mohammedfahim9918]

Think it’s possible to use this with the playseat challenge if we use some sort of reinforcement like the lowdown shifter LDS bracing ?

[@SimRacingCorner]

The weight will be okay, but the forces will shake the Playseat Challenge a lot, which won't be ideal.

[@cordovama75]

Since the pro pedals are out of stock. Can we use a 9 pin to usb adapter to use the pedals from the g29 and g923? Same question for the gear shifter? Thanks

[@SimRacingCorner]

Logitech has just released their own adapter for this exact purpose.

[@TheOnyxian]

Great review but I do have an issue. Your comparison between this and the R9/CSL DD I find to be a bit of a stretch given the difference in price. Where you should be comparing this is the Simagic Alpha Mini bundle which costs around the same and, in my opinion, is a much more attractive proposition. When you compare the two systems, it does make you wonder how much Logitech would wish to charge just for the wheelbase because that rim is certainly not a £400 rim nor does it compare to something cheaper like the Moza CS. Food for thought perhaps?

[@SimRacingCorner]

I'm limited to what I have access too, so it's the best I can do right now.

[@NickSealPueo]

Can you use a traditional manual shifter with this wheel? I saw somewhere Logitech might make a compatible one eventually but is there a 3rd party recommended one or can the Logi one work even if not supported?

[@SimRacingCorner]

There currently isn't a shifter you can plug directly into the wheelbase. If you're on PC (not console), there are loads of shifters that's plug directly into your computer, so you could do that.

[@GreedFire]

What pedals do you propose for this wheel? I was wondering about clubsport v3 again but for me vibration motor is unnecesary and adds nothing. Are logitech pedals good, better or maybe different pedals?

[@SimRacingCorner]

I'd say very similar performing pedals. So either is a good choice.

[@starkalarm]

I haven’t seen any review as yet that give the measurements between the m6 mounting holes. It would be nice to know the distance. But still a good review

[@SimRacingCorner]

If I recall, Logitech have a diagram for that on their support page.

[@H.Pierre0]

11Nm is enough maybe because the wheel is light and short? With a big wheel like others dd on the market, 11Nm will be, maybe a bit too low with old cars for example.

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

nope..it has plenty of strenth....cant imagine even using it full power for too long....I usually keep it at 60-70%

[@TrakxGoPro]

trueforce - go to gt7 on a ps5 and then back up

[@mangs9940]

Can i ask a question about how this wheel connects to a game. Do you need to create a custom profile for each game you play with wheel? The reason i ask , is that it tricky to create profiles for games bought on the Microsoft store. Because you dont have direct access to the game exe file . Will the game find the wheel without a profile. Found this issue on pcgame wiki.

[@SimRacingCorner]

There's nothing extra you need to do to run Microsoft store games, as long as the game has wheel support. I've ran FH5 with this wheel which I picked up from the Microsoft store.

[@mangs9940]

@@SimRacingCorner thanks for confirming!

[@MrGuilhermegouvea]

goodnight. first congratulations for the content! I'm really enjoying the videos. Could you tell me the distance between the screws on the base? I have a g29 and I would like to know if I will be able to use it in the same base (playseat evolution). thank you very much

[@SimRacingCorner]

Its the same hole spacing as the G29

[@MrGuilhermegouvea]

Thanks!

[@caaarlos]

The Logitech DD has a fan on the back, is it an outrunner motor or a servo motor?

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

feels like a servo but I cant tell....its great tho lol

[@carlosrey1331]

i´m wondering how is build inside...

[@boblavin1873]

Is there any loose free play when wheel is centered. Logitech g29 had that problem. A good inch of free play at center. I realize the G pro is direct drive while g29 was belt . Just wondering before i decide.

[@SimRacingCorner]

There's no play, that's just a circumstance of the G29.

[@boblavin1873]

@@SimRacingCorner Thanks for getting back to me . That answers my question

[@kiiroMADE]

G29 is not driven by belts. It's cogs only. Hence the damn rattling sound when the FFB operates. (yes I have a g29)

[@mangs9940]

thanks for the clear measurements.

[@austinabbott1120]

@SIM RACING CORNER Coming from a G923. Definitely upgrading to this wheelbase, but I can't decide between getting the pro pedals bundled with it for $265 or going for the Fanatec V3's + performance kit for $420. Do you think the V3's are worth the extra cost?

[@Leynad778]

Some say even the CSL pedals are better than the new Logitech, but console compatibility is gone if mixing (I guess).

[@SimRacingCorner]

I would say it's very similar to the V3s with BPK installed. They did well with these pedals, they're running well.

[@wouterblanken9840]

I use the Fanatec CSl Elite V2 pedals with the Logitech pro wheel. According to other reviews the CSl Elite V2 pedals are better than Logitech pro pedals and similair or slightly better to Clubsport V3 pedals and cheaper.

[@iiChosenOne]

Great for console players, but for PC I don't see this being a great option when compared to the simagic alpha mini and moza racing r9 that more, great steering wheel options available at this point, smaller size, more mounting possibilities

[@UniversalStand]

Nice!

[@MrMikap74]

The Simagic wheels are gorgeous, just like all their other peripherals. That having said, I would love a combination of the Simagic hardware and Logitechs FFB. Coming from a CLS DD I can honesty say the ffb from the Logitech DD pro is from another level. The CLS DD was my first upgrade to dd, and to be honest, I had higher expectations. It felt a little dull and lifeless in the minor steering corrections. I am so happy I've sold my CLS DD and bought the Logitech DD Pro. I don't mind the big plastic case, its just the housing. And my MClaren GT3 wheel was made from plastic also, including the qr and the clutches

[@raiventiburon6655]

Hello) is that sim dashpoard app you using for map and car radar?

[@SimRacingCorner]

That's SimHub

[@Andrew-mv4nj]

Hi there. Great channel and video. Thank you for your hard work and awesome content. Assuming you will not be keeping the wheel? If you are, would really appreciate a video showing and explaining all in game settings for forza. I have the wheel but having a hard time tuning in the perfect settings between g hub and ingame settings. Thank you.

[@SimRacingCorner]

I'm running other wheelbases at the moment, so it will be a while before I get around to getting the Logitech back on the rig. The FFB in FH5 is quite basic, so you're probably not doing anything wrong. When I set the wheelbase up for FH5, I didn't spend much FFB tuning as it was clear it was never going to be much cop. Beyond adjusting the FFB strength, I'm sure I didn't do too much beyond that in the game. I do recall, that you do need to run the wheel at 900 degrees of rotation in GHUB or on the wheel menu.

[@Andrew-mv4nj]

@@SimRacingCorner appreciate the response. I did notice a vast difference in ffb between FH and AC. I definitely agree with regards to tuning down the turn radius a bit. That had a huge factor on car control in FH.

[@abuelb]

Heres a good ffb sett ing gor FH5 on console with the G pro. INGAME Dead Zones: All Default Steering linearity: 30 Vibration scale: 1.0 FFB scale: 1.5 Center Spring Scale: 2.0 Wheel damper scale: 2.0 Mechanical trail scale: 0.8 FFB Min Force: 1.5 FFB Load Sen: 0.8 Road Feel scale: 1.5 Off-road feel scale: 1.5 G pro. Everything default except FFB Torque: 8Nm or preference Damper: 100 Angle: 900

[@Crashing-D]

Hi, do you think logitech will also make an F1 wheel in the future?

[@SimRacingCorner]

The quick release shows some intent, but it's anybody's guess at this point.

[@Gepeperde]

some say a McLaren wheel is coming

[@mjzita0baller]

Another great review. Thank you. From my perspective, the seeling point with logitech will be the oportunity to buy this pack at local hardware shop (mediamarket, etc...) I can see this is shelfs in a few months and that alone will boost (again) logitech. Not having 1000€ up front to buy, but can credit in a store like MM and having a great suport... That is the seeling market that others dont have (fanatec/asetek/simmagic/etc...) Moza is working on that also. Companys -simracing - need to be closer to broad buyers and provide assistant. Its my perpective on this! Great job and keep them coming 😉

[@RacingTherapy]

this product will not be sold in other stores, only in the oficial Logitech online store! They already clarified that :)

[@mjzita0baller]

@@RacingTherapy until the day they realesed a state saying that you can now buy at your local hardware shop! I already have MOZA available in my country(portugal). The footprint that logitech (or TM) have they would be crazy not to take advantage of agreements they have worlwide!! Its my opinion and i can be worng of course...

[@RacingTherapy]

@@mjzita0baller What a coincidence! I'm from Portugal as well.. eheheh concordo contigo, seriam burros de vender exclusivamente através do site deles! Vão perder muitos clientes e dinheiro! Eu de momento tenho o bundle premium da Fanatec GT DD PRO + o LC kit Não sabia que a Moza já estava disponível aqui em Portugal

[@mjzita0baller]

@@RacingTherapy eheheh. A internet é pequena! 😝 Ve no site da "globaldata". Ja la tem disponivel a gama toda da MOZA(por encomenda ainda) mas tem! Eu como sou pobre(lol) tenho de seguir pelos produtos mais acessiveis... Daí andar atento ao que a MOZA tem! Mas la esta, se tivesse disponivel este bundle da logitech a prestacoes numa worten ou MM, se calhar nem pensava 2 vezes! E acredito que como eu, possam estar umas boas centenas de players. Se eles nao aproveitam os acordos que teem com estas lojas, entao podem estar a perder um mercado significativo! Mas mais uma vez, é a minha opiniao/visao. Boas corridas camarada 😉

[@rynosraceroom66]

Awesome thx 🤘🏼🏁

[@lbotao]

Great review mate. The only thing that makes me doubt about it, it's the size. The width and length aren't an issue, it's more of the height. Do you think you can mount a monitor in a way you can see the in game car dashboard through the wheel rim? Cheers!

[@SimRacingCorner]

No, you won't be able to see much of the in-game dash if the monitor is resting on the wheelbase like I have it in the video.

[@lbotao]

@@SimRacingCornerSo in that aspect the Moza R9 might be a better option?

[@SimRacingCorner]

It's better but not perfect, I find every wheelbase I've used with the monitor perched on the wheelbase, a round wheel rim is obscuring the on-screen dash to some degree.

[@lbotao]

@@SimRacingCorner thanks for your reply :)

[@High.on.Life_DnB]

would this true force thing from logitech be somewhat comparable to the rumble motors in some of the formula racing wheels from fanatec?

[@SimRacingCorner]

No, not exactly. The vibrations are more defined.

[@High.on.Life_DnB]

@@SimRacingCorner Thank you for the quick answer, I'm on a fanatec GT DD Pro right now but I'm not so happy with it as the rubber on the wheel started to completely wear down to the plastic, I did get a replacement wheel from fanatec but I'm considering either selling all my fanatec stuff and go for the logitech, or stay with fanatec and just get a new expensive wheel from them (with leather grips not rubber, like the formulaV2.5(non X version)). It'll be cheaper in the end probably, but I'm not so happy with the fanatec quality of things.

[@High.on.Life_DnB]

@@SimRacingCorner Do you think it'll be long before Logitech starts to release more wheels? Like a formula style wheel?

[@SimRacingCorner]

It's impossible to know what their plans are. This was a surprise when they launched this. And I'm guessing it's going to depend on how well this sells. And I get the impression Logitech take their time with product development.

[@flightis3dollars]

SimCat has taught you well, great review. I really like that Logitech is competing with the high end stuff on the ffb side of things. Means that the other guys must stay sharp. Btw., what are the dd wheels you have tested?

[@SimRacingCorner]

I have the Moza R5, Moza R9, Cammus, CSL DD, Leo Bodnar, and this one...

[@highlander5304]

Thank you for this review! One question. Fanatec DD1 vs Logitech? Which one would you recommend?

[@SimRacingCorner]

I haven't tried a DD1, so I can't say.

[@akpanjennings]

I’d get the DD1 especially with the sale going on you’ll only pay about $180 more for 20nm instead of 11

[@Jim_AC]

Thanks for this review, very well worded. So it delivers a superb quality FFB. The only two set backs for me is the price and this proprietary QR. I'm looking forward for the G PRO pedals reviews, I'm seriously considering it (for $300) over the Simjack Mini ($225).

[@letsgobrandon6545]

At this day and age Logitech should pay its customers to use their abomination of software called G Hub. Also, you forgot to mention that the reason why its not perpetual spin is to prevent wire damage in their beautiful design. Fanatec is pretty bad lately, but this is on completely another level of ridiculousness.

[@wisllayvitrio]

It would be nice to see how the current bundle options compare to each other, being those the Logitech Pro with pedals, the Moza R9 with CRP pedals ans CS wheel and the new Asetek La Prima bundle, and maybe the CSL DD. These are exciting times to join the sim racing wagon!

[@wavybabylive]

Please help me buy my setup I need quality suggestions price doesn’t matter

[@xaba_simracing]

Can't be said otherwise, simply ugly and in my opinion expensive compared to the competition.

[@SirDazzyB]

A lot of people are saying this is expensive, but they are comparing it with entry level kit. This base competes in the mid range sector where a base alone would cost more than this whole package. It's actually good value when you consider it performs better than almost any other DD I've used.

[@docslappy8946]

@@SirDazzyB yep, I agree and have commented on other reviews. A Fanatec DD1 with comparable wheel is over 1,500 Euro. A Fanatec CSL with a cheap wheel with a plastic (unreliable) connector is 700 Euro. In that context, this is a competitive price. Especially if it proves as reliable as the old Logitech wheels. The main downside of this, is the lack of wheel type choice, at the moment. Size and looks will also affect some.

[@SimRacingCorner]

Compared to what competition, exactly?

[@harrygaylordrums]

Simagic Alpha Mini (much nicer and smaller base) with the GT1 R round rim comes in about 30 quid more expensive to this. QR on Simagic is better, base is peak 13nm instead of Logi 11 and the wheel rim is much nicer quality. If you are on PC I don't see why you would go for this Logitech?

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@harrygaylordrums Simagic Alpha Mini is 10nm. It's good to make sure you get details right.