LOKI: Where Variants Come From | Alternate Timelines and SYLVIE Origin Explained

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Loki is starting to feed us some answers, while raising even more questions. Namely, if there is one sacred timeline, then how are there so many variants of Loki? And how is Sylvie, a female version of Loki, able to exist without a multiverse? We have theories that connect to the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe, including Avengers: Endgame, Thor and even speculate on Sylvie’s secret origin.
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@ScreenCrush
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@KFP_Fanboy
@KFP_Fanboy 3 жыл бұрын
Is that your mom?
@dustinsoucie3836
@dustinsoucie3836 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, code/link doesn't work
@86LukeM
@86LukeM 3 жыл бұрын
Can hit your foot with a pressure washer and still have dry feet. When I go to the car wash I occasionally hit my shoes to clean them.
@beattodeath
@beattodeath 3 жыл бұрын
Pete and Pete was a great show. Iirc. The two Pete's actually do a Podcast together nowadays.
@dankoflanko
@dankoflanko 3 жыл бұрын
code isnt working
@tishasoriano8902
@tishasoriano8902 3 жыл бұрын
if sylvie used to be a part of the TVA, how did she not know that her powers don’t work inside the TVA?
@lanaliz8
@lanaliz8 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe she developed her magic after she left. She said she taught herself.
@mrcarter121793
@mrcarter121793 3 жыл бұрын
Literally just had that thought before I clicked on the comments. You would think someone who knows enough of the tva would know that. But on the other hand she had to get info on where the timekeepers were at in the tva soooooo 🤷🏾‍♂️
@hid4
@hid4 3 жыл бұрын
@@lanaliz8 even if she doesn't has her magic ability, she should have the knowledge about magic being nullified inside tva, if she really was a tva agent
@youtubeuserremainsanonymou9022
@youtubeuserremainsanonymou9022 3 жыл бұрын
they might have made that patch after she left-upgrade defenses with runes or something
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 3 жыл бұрын
She never was part of it
@poleun9
@poleun9 3 жыл бұрын
Before episode 3, Sylvie didn't know how to find the elevator, she didn't know how many people guards the time keepers and she didn't know her magic doesn't work in the TVA. And I believe she says, she spent her whole life running from the TVA
@sureshmakwana8709
@sureshmakwana8709 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you'll think that it's pretty crazy to think that if anyone veers off from their destined path then they create their whole new motherfucing timeline like a carbon copy of their OG one making just themselves as a variation in it and offcourse all the changes which they will make then.. and won't a whole lot of *COSMIC ENERGY* or something like that mystical would happen when a whole a new timeline got created in the Universe just by one simple act(eg what 2012 Loki did) ?!
@Yodah97
@Yodah97 3 жыл бұрын
@@sureshmakwana8709 Yeah but that's the issue with all variations of the multiverse theory, both in fiction and the real world. Where would the energy for infinite timelines come from? It's much more likely that there is just one timeline. People just like the multiple timeline theory because it would mean our choices actually "matter" on a cosmic scale. It's like the modern version of saying that Earth is the center of the solar system.
@fourlightsorchestra
@fourlightsorchestra 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yodah97 interesting. Other people have a completely different interpretation when learning about the multiverse theory. They feel like one earth and one version of themselves is unique, but multiple versions diminish their importance and they no longer feel like choices have meaning. They end up feeling like the opposite of being at the center of attention. As far as where would the energy come from? I’d imagine it’s already there. I’m not a astrophysicist, but from what I understand, all of it comes from whatever the Big Bang event was, and that energy is slowly dissipating. In my mind, I see a rock thrown into a body of water, and the ripples come out from the impact. You might wonder, where the energy comes from to create ripples in water, or ripples that bounce off of the shore, and then bounce off of other ripples and create new ripple patterns. The answer is they came from the rock being thrown into the water, and that energy is interacting with the nature of the lake. At least that’s how I make sense of it in my head.
@azneph611
@azneph611 3 жыл бұрын
Tom is such a great actor as Loki
@ryanparsons9216
@ryanparsons9216 3 жыл бұрын
2019 tom is Dead so guess u mean the variant loki acting?
@hamdinger7145
@hamdinger7145 3 жыл бұрын
I like Night Manager
@vision5092
@vision5092 3 жыл бұрын
REMEMBER this is not the original Loki
@tenormdness
@tenormdness 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I feel like Loki is acting as Tom when I see him in interviews. Lol
@ksp4857
@ksp4857 3 жыл бұрын
69th like, nice
@jorgeacosta2209
@jorgeacosta2209 3 жыл бұрын
On another note, the TVA is the reason there was only 1 way to defeat Thanos. Because any other way would get erased by the TVA. It always bugged me that they said out of 14 million only 1 way but now it makes since 🤯
@Chromwel-A
@Chromwel-A 3 жыл бұрын
Yed ut makes since
@spinach7759
@spinach7759 3 жыл бұрын
*sense lol
@abunirmal2535
@abunirmal2535 3 жыл бұрын
But I think thonos also get erased so many times. Look all those infinity stones.
@sureshmakwana8709
@sureshmakwana8709 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you'll think that it's pretty crazy to think that if anyone veers off from their destined path then they create their whole new motherfucing timeline like a carbon copy of their OG one making just themselves as a variation in it and offcourse all the changes which they will make then.. and won't a whole lot of *COSMIC ENERGY* or something like that mystical would happen when a whole a new timeline got created in the Universe just by one simple act(eg what 2012 Loki did) ?!
@dianapennepacker6854
@dianapennepacker6854 3 жыл бұрын
@@sureshmakwana8709 It is. Like what would my life be like if this person didn't die. I would be irate and furious. Then finding out where the TVA agents and workers come from?!? Oh man. Yet I'm just a dumb human. I would write in bad typos just to spite them. (LOcke chain dis avent lol. Dis vary ant has villa ence. Code uh floor.) Edit. No paper work ATM. I'm going to take a break and go shit.
@johnathanwalker8395
@johnathanwalker8395 3 жыл бұрын
My thought the whole time is, if there isn't already a multiverse. How are there all these congruent variants?
@rinadas2256
@rinadas2256 2 жыл бұрын
Ya ya same have u got the answer
@paulkonyha2234
@paulkonyha2234 2 жыл бұрын
I have been wondering this the whole time.
@UnPolitics
@UnPolitics 2 жыл бұрын
i'm wondering as well
@rinadas2256
@rinadas2256 2 жыл бұрын
Pls notify once u get the answer
@samholt9177
@samholt9177 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr It literally makes no sense
@Enz1612
@Enz1612 3 жыл бұрын
The burning question I have is...are we going to hear Mobius say..."wow" when they find out they are variants
@LaDracul
@LaDracul 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, no.
@davesouthword1298
@davesouthword1298 3 жыл бұрын
We’ll get that when Loki takes him to 1990s Earth and he buys him a jet ski.
@steventhomason3136
@steventhomason3136 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so
@murfur6969
@murfur6969 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaDracul why sadly no? 3 episodes to go the odds are not that bad
@babakinsbeats
@babakinsbeats 3 жыл бұрын
@@murfur6969 I think one of the people working on the show confirmed that we won’t get to hear it :( I think they could be throwing us off though, they know everyone would love it lol
@benbeesley4277
@benbeesley4277 3 жыл бұрын
Why is Sylvie act surprised when she attempted to "enchant" a TVA soldier within the TVA's domain and her powers didn't work. If she had worked for the TVA, shouldn't she have known that her enchanting powers wouldn't work there?
@chrispauls1036
@chrispauls1036 3 жыл бұрын
They erased her memory and time line and that's why she's mad they erased her people
@tristanseanpaulcinco7018
@tristanseanpaulcinco7018 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrispauls1036 that's a tall order. Also if her memories were erased, then why not erase all her memories of the TVA altogether? That would just make it easier for me if I was the TVA. Truth is this theory is rather weak
@NCR_Ranger
@NCR_Ranger 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrispauls1036 bogus. They would have just erased all her memories.
@sohrabmoghaddam7470
@sohrabmoghaddam7470 3 жыл бұрын
Its funny no body talk about that part.
@chrispauls1036
@chrispauls1036 3 жыл бұрын
@@tristanseanpaulcinco7018 she woke up somehow that's why she can barely remember her mom not a tall order when we're talking about superheroes she's mad for some reason
@TexasToni11
@TexasToni11 3 жыл бұрын
Nah. Sylvie was surprised about the magic not working, and needed the Hunter to tell her about the TVA, like what the elevator looked like. No way she was raised there
@jeffnasty6736
@jeffnasty6736 3 жыл бұрын
They can erase memories, maybe they tried on her but half succeeded
@zelsha
@zelsha 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffnasty6736 Still is a speculation. We can't tell for sure what happened and why they hunted her down beside her been a *variant*. We dont even know what she suposed did wrong (if she actually did anything). Hopefully we will see soon.
@fourlightsorchestra
@fourlightsorchestra 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m not on this train either.
@iam1nfamous
@iam1nfamous 3 жыл бұрын
If Sylvia was a TVA agent she wouldn't have been surprised when her powers didn't work in the TVA
@markusbenedict7651
@markusbenedict7651 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the reason why magic is neutralized was because of her defection?
@owenb6499
@owenb6499 3 жыл бұрын
and how would she be able to get that good at magic without practice? It doesn’t make sense
@sureshmakwana8709
@sureshmakwana8709 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you'll think that it's pretty crazy to think that if anyone veers off from their destined path then they create their whole new motherfucing timeline like a carbon copy of their OG one making just themselves as a variation in it and offcourse all the changes which they will make then.. and won't a whole lot of *COSMIC ENERGY* or something like that mystical would happen when a whole a new timeline got created in the Universe just by one simple act(eg what 2012 Loki did) ?!
@ColeBeeRyan
@ColeBeeRyan 3 жыл бұрын
But Sylvie seems surprised that her magic doesn't work there.... she should know that if she worked for them.
@Glitch-qj3nj
@Glitch-qj3nj 3 жыл бұрын
Obvious true
@fangz5058
@fangz5058 3 жыл бұрын
I think she taught herself AFTER she escaped the TVA. Or she accidentally performed some magic when she was outside of the TVA and had to run away in fear that the other hunters would prune her.
@mrj4082
@mrj4082 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't work for them ever
@sureshmakwana8709
@sureshmakwana8709 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you'll think that it's pretty crazy to think that if anyone veers off from their destined path then they create their whole new motherfucing timeline like a carbon copy of their OG one making just themselves as a variation in it and offcourse all the changes which they will make then.. and won't a whole lot of *COSMIC ENERGY* or something like that mystical would happen when a whole a new timeline got created in the Universe just by one simple act(eg what 2012 Loki did) ?!
@fangz5058
@fangz5058 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrj4082 It's just a theory bro.
@bdunn2435
@bdunn2435 3 жыл бұрын
In my perfect timeline Loki would have more than 6 episodes
@candyscott489
@candyscott489 3 жыл бұрын
Please !!!
@angyvirtu3593
@angyvirtu3593 3 жыл бұрын
It's confirmed that the show is getting a 2nd season.
@franciscolobato3806
@franciscolobato3806 2 жыл бұрын
@@angyvirtu3593 No it's not, six episodes and that'll be
@barryallen871
@barryallen871 2 жыл бұрын
@@franciscolobato3806 2nd season has been in development since last year.
@bedlessmom6846
@bedlessmom6846 3 жыл бұрын
So Basically, Thanos fought for paperweights, Tony was killed by the aura and power of the paperweights, S.H.E.I.L.D made weapons out of paperweights, Black Widow sacrificed her life for paperweights, Vison was made out of paperweight, Wanda got her power from the same paperweight. Nice one Marvel :)
@marcusbuchanan9192
@marcusbuchanan9192 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently in the comics the infinity stones only work in their own universe and I think the TVA is sort of outside these universes/ timelines
@Cuinn
@Cuinn 3 жыл бұрын
My wife had an interesting theory that "Sylvie" isn't a Loki or even a Sylvie (aka Enchantress), but rather a Variant of Loki's (adopted) mother Friga. There's a lot of setup in both Episode 1 as well as episode 3 of Loki's regret in causing her death, and this may be a form of her that he's going to work with in a way to mend that bond with her.
@Maximalgamedude
@Maximalgamedude 3 жыл бұрын
Your wife has a very keen eye. 'Sylvie' does look alot like Friga, and Friga's past isn't realy known.
@markusbenedict7651
@markusbenedict7651 3 жыл бұрын
Could be neat, I like the idea of it, but I'm not sure that jives with her reaction to being called Loki.
@akaakaakaak5779
@akaakaakaak5779 3 жыл бұрын
doesnt really make any sense to me at all
@clownofthetimes6727
@clownofthetimes6727 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the character has a motherly look about her, your wife might be right.
@davesouthword1298
@davesouthword1298 3 жыл бұрын
But but but - magic
@marcusduck
@marcusduck 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvie is savage. She knows the TVA are just variants and innocent people abducted from Earth but she still kills them
@CanYouSee1510
@CanYouSee1510 3 жыл бұрын
All of the variants in the TVA are variants of Loki alone. Its plain as day
@ColeBeeRyan
@ColeBeeRyan 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently killing a variant means nothing. The reality from which they came no longer exists.
@cadenrolland5250
@cadenrolland5250 3 жыл бұрын
They are all reset. It seems the TVA rests them too once they are no longer useful. Sylvie said that she had to look through 100's of years of memories in that one guard. That could only be because the TVA keeps resetting the "employees" to when they first started working for them. So they are all trapped to perpetually slave away countless lives for their overlords the time keepers. It would be like you had to work at Walmart for dozens of lifetimes! And each time you leave they reset you to the day you first started there. EVIL! If Mobius screws up he'll be reset too, only to not remember putting rings on that table in R Slayers office yet again! Judging by the rings in that table he has been reset about 6 times so far. So say Mobius started when he was 20, and retired at 60. If this always happens, then Mobius has been there about 240 years so far! The only way out is death, or a Nexis event remaking the multiverse.
@swooshdave
@swooshdave 3 жыл бұрын
@@cadenrolland5250 Resets could be similar to reincarnations. The variant dies (old age or other) and then is brought back to start again.
@cadenrolland5250
@cadenrolland5250 3 жыл бұрын
@@swooshdave True, we've never actually seen a variant definitively die have we? Being hit with the orange tipped stick is being reset.
@scottbenwell
@scottbenwell 3 жыл бұрын
Great content. My Theory - The TVA city is Cronopolis as seen in the background of Ant Man in the quantum realm. From here Kang uses variants to maintain his control over time by removing events that interfere with his plans. This is why infinity stones etc don't work as they are inside the quantum realm.
@Glitch-qj3nj
@Glitch-qj3nj 3 жыл бұрын
It not YOur theory dude .Not lie
@malewhale4238
@malewhale4238 3 жыл бұрын
@@Glitch-qj3nj fr lmao i already heard about this theory that
@nathanblom8286
@nathanblom8286 3 жыл бұрын
You could be on to something. I remember Antman saying time passes differently in the quantumrealm. And if I remember correctly Mobius did say something similar.
@desshakelby5771
@desshakelby5771 3 жыл бұрын
I have considered that.
@cuca_
@cuca_ 3 жыл бұрын
nathan blom but mobius said time doesn’t pass at all in the tva. Whereas in the quantum realm 5 years still passed as 5 hours for antman
@baothai1505
@baothai1505 2 жыл бұрын
Ok can you do an updated version of this please? Now we know there’s kid, crocodile and black Loki. How do they become variants if they don’t look alike at all?
@samholt9177
@samholt9177 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why I’m confused
@supes616
@supes616 3 жыл бұрын
I think Sylvie is a Loki variant that strayed from the Sacred Time Line much earlier in her life than the 2012 Loki. That's why she's so different. She's been evading the TVA her entire life.
@iam1nfamous
@iam1nfamous 3 жыл бұрын
But how did she become a variant? That's where I'm confused at
@IIBraderz
@IIBraderz 3 жыл бұрын
This is it, they'll explain it so it's more plausible but this is definitely it.
@supes616
@supes616 3 жыл бұрын
@@sameersoni9291 spoilers dude
@supes616
@supes616 3 жыл бұрын
@@iam1nfamous you become a variant as soon as a you stray from your intended path. I'm sure we'll learn how/why soon.
@sameersoni9291
@sameersoni9291 3 жыл бұрын
@@supes616 oopsie 😅😂
@BusterDarcy
@BusterDarcy 3 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best explanation of the variety of Loki variants I’ve ever heard. And I’ve been asking this question for weeks now. Once again I am blown away by the degree to which you pick up on details and understand story structure, plot mechanics and character development. A heartfelt thank you and bravo!
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 3 жыл бұрын
What's in your perfect timeline?
@beaverboydilly
@beaverboydilly 3 жыл бұрын
You!
@spencermulvaney
@spencermulvaney 3 жыл бұрын
A world without Heavy Spoilers of course.
@arnulfoacevedo8147
@arnulfoacevedo8147 3 жыл бұрын
The one with your mom
@lililkalulukalilalilalulal1438
@lililkalulukalilalilalulal1438 2 жыл бұрын
"the one where dad doesn't go out to buy milk."
@muskaan3711
@muskaan3711 3 жыл бұрын
So wouldn't Steve going back to live with Peggy create an alternate timeline, which is against the Sacred Timeline, thereby causing a nexus event? After all this time, I still don't understand Steve's ending...
@BecomingLizzyBlue
@BecomingLizzyBlue 2 жыл бұрын
There have been different explanations from the powers that be. I don’t think they had a set explanation. Some say he existed simultaneously within the past; others say an alternate timeline was created. However, if you combine all the theories, there is one that sort of works. The Ancient One says removing an infinity stone creates a branch, not time travel itself. The Miss Minutes video in Loki indicates other deviations, such as being late to work, that have nothing to do with time travel can create variants. Variants are things that significantly disrupt the timeline. Small changes can probably be absorbed or ignored. Now add Banner’s statement that we can’t change the past; the change becomes part of our future. Think of it like copying and pasting a paragraph to the end of a document. You can edit the new one without changing the old. Steve then returns to the point he left, thereby moving that point ahead of the past and time continues normally from there. His time in the past is sandwiched between the point he left and the point he returns. As long as he doesn’t make any significant changes, neither the past nor the future is greatly affected.
@unnamed3086
@unnamed3086 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe that was supposed to happen in the sacred timeline
@corentinmorel598
@corentinmorel598 2 жыл бұрын
@@BecomingLizzyBlue that doesn’t work because he went back in time to be with Peggy and doing so Peggy can’t marry her husband That’s a big change. It radically changes two lives and impacts several more
@jaynekranc8607
@jaynekranc8607 7 ай бұрын
Oh, I hated that ending.
@nicholasgarrick3165
@nicholasgarrick3165 3 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to suspect slyvie is actually loki's daughter. Her curiosity of who loki loved makes me think she wants to know more about her mother. Her hate of the TVA also leads me to believe they erased her timeline because loki wasn't supposed to have a daughter on the "sacred timeline ", and she's adopted because someone saved her from being erased, and raised her.
@Cauldron6
@Cauldron6 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely believe this theory. Also, she never said that Odin and Frigga adopted her, she just said she knew she was adopted. I think we’ll find out that Loki from her timeline adopted her.
@geekishgir
@geekishgir 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, interesting! Make it so!
@davesouthword1298
@davesouthword1298 3 жыл бұрын
However, her surname is Laufeydottir (forgive the spelling) and thus far the TVA’s information through time and space is completely accurate - they made a point twice of Loki’s surname for example, they’ve got a recording of Loki’s life on tape.
@samsonorji53
@samsonorji53 2 жыл бұрын
@@davesouthword1298 she is loki from another alternate universe
@lililkalulukalilalilalulal1438
@lililkalulukalilalilalulal1438 2 жыл бұрын
i have nooo idea what the comics are but google said sylvie was a character in the comics; a human whom loki gave powers to, and brainwashed to believe she was n exiled asgardian living in new york. so what if mcu makes it to be that, loki from slyvie's timeline, adopts sylvie instead of giving her the false memories? hmmmm
@deathsyth8888
@deathsyth8888 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvie is the gender flipped and of a different species from the other Loki varient. She is an Asgardian that was adopted by the Frost Giants. So a reverse of the Odin/Laufrey situation.
@yoshifan4569
@yoshifan4569 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought!
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 3 жыл бұрын
Oh interesting
@tristanseanpaulcinco7018
@tristanseanpaulcinco7018 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Except she is referred to in a little easter egg somewhere in Episode 2 as "Sylvie Laufeydottir", indicating that she is Laufey's daughter. Same as how Loki is officially Laufeyson in the TVA's eyes
@yoshifan4569
@yoshifan4569 3 жыл бұрын
@@tristanseanpaulcinco7018 oh yeah of course. Is Loki also being named as Loki Laufeyson? I don't remember
@tristanseanpaulcinco7018
@tristanseanpaulcinco7018 3 жыл бұрын
@@yoshifan4569 literally on the first episode when he was called in the TVA court by the TVA leader/judge woman. I think she said the name twice
@jrromman
@jrromman 3 жыл бұрын
Some of your best work. Truly brilliant and well thought out. Bravo!
@TheDadMan
@TheDadMan 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvie had never been in the TVA prior to episode 3. She didn't realize her powers wouldn't work.
@nomoreillusions
@nomoreillusions 3 жыл бұрын
She had never been in the TVA *after* she developed her powers. She said she taught herself, she wasn't 'born' doing it - so if she had been in the TVA before she learned to enchant, she might not realize her power wouldn't work.
@eddiegreencheez
@eddiegreencheez 3 жыл бұрын
The way she explained C20s cloudy memory did sound similar to her own memories of her mother.
@Vessi
@Vessi 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for working with us on this one!
@BretMuckdogs
@BretMuckdogs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Ryan.
@marcelofabrega5112
@marcelofabrega5112 3 жыл бұрын
If you see the last ep, when silve goes into the TVA she tried to use her magic with one of the guards. It doesn’t work as we were explained at the first episodio, so she does not know that. Therefore, i think she have never been in the TVA so she hasn’t worked with them as loki did.
@MeLeoMiller
@MeLeoMiller 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Loki's shapechanger, surely he can make himself look like anything he wants? different realities would influence Loki's sense of style.
@magic_claw
@magic_claw 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the fundamental question was how are there different realities when there’s only one sacred timeline which is what this video is answering.
@lacasadehonor9408
@lacasadehonor9408 3 жыл бұрын
@@magic_claw sylvie is a variant who hasnt been caught
@Yodah97
@Yodah97 3 жыл бұрын
@@magic_claw I really hope the show answers this. My best guess is that Loki is so wild that most of the things he does won't create all that much variant energy. The timeline is ready for his nonsense; he's a known unknown, so to speak. It's only when he goes too far or interacts with an infinity stone that one of his variant timelines run the risk of hitting the red line.
@thesunflowerperspective8256
@thesunflowerperspective8256 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy how you flow into the promos
@erikcourtney1834
@erikcourtney1834 3 жыл бұрын
I think you hit the nail right on the head. Point is very valid and makes perfect sense.
@hedwigpotter1860
@hedwigpotter1860 3 жыл бұрын
My Theory: I just wanted to add that in endgame, when the aincient one shows the time line, it is a waving line with tiny timelines circling it. This is the multiverse and the separate events that the TVA have to reset. Also the waving line symbolizes the wavering and changing time line. That is just my theory but it might symbolize something else.
@lililkalulukalilalilalulal1438
@lililkalulukalilalilalulal1438 2 жыл бұрын
the tva is a scam. that's it, really.
@MooneShadow
@MooneShadow 3 жыл бұрын
I thought she was enchantress... she talks about it all the time. And when they discussed love I thought she was thinking Thor as that is her biggest crush... but I don't know.... seems very enchantress like... blond, enchanting peoples minds... 🤔
@ayanlyfts
@ayanlyfts 3 жыл бұрын
That's Amora the Enchantress, not Sylvie
@tonythepostman
@tonythepostman 3 жыл бұрын
Again...a brilliant video!
@christianmulligan9719
@christianmulligan9719 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best, most down to earth theory channel on the platform, you're the best at what you do Ryan!
@ColeBeeRyan
@ColeBeeRyan 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that the color of the time resets is similar to Wanda's reality warping colors? Not the red, but the rainbow like oil-slick color. And the digital sound... anyway. Maybe its connected.
@cofcchick
@cofcchick 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a probable plot-tie-in to Multiverse of Madness.
@ColeBeeRyan
@ColeBeeRyan 3 жыл бұрын
@@cofcchick that's what I was thinking. And the Quantum realm/quantum mania. I even predict the Fantastic Four being introduced in that one. But maybe I'm getting way ahead of myself haha.
@compub3ar
@compub3ar 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but when Sylvie tries to enchant the guard at the TVA she acts surprised that it didn't work. And how is she supposed to learn magic in the TVA when magic doesn't work there? Sorry dude.
@fourlightsorchestra
@fourlightsorchestra 3 жыл бұрын
She also needed to hijack that hunters mind because she didn’t know where the time keepers were, or how many people were guarding them.
@semboersen2632
@semboersen2632 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I really wanted to know more about these xD
@tcheek3rd
@tcheek3rd 3 жыл бұрын
Omg Pete and Pete. You hit my nostalgia hard with that one!
@Darkhorde
@Darkhorde 3 жыл бұрын
Here is what I think. Sylvie is Loki's daughter. Loki helped her with her powers when she was young, but her mother was barely known to loki. Loki raised her. Then something happened and the TVA showed up and erased that timeline, killing her father in front of her. So she has a vendetta against the TVA because well, they took everything from her.
@samsonorji53
@samsonorji53 2 жыл бұрын
She's loki from a parallel universe
@Darkhorde
@Darkhorde 2 жыл бұрын
@@samsonorji53 Nah, the name, the skill set, the setting up of the young avengers already predating this appearance, she is enchantress. The only question is how they are going to tie her into this story here. I still after last weeks episode stand by what I predicted originally. So far a major part of my prediction was confirmed. Now we wait.
@jaceh4942
@jaceh4942 3 жыл бұрын
There is no way that there is really just one single timeline. The TVA is making that up. If all those wildly different Lokis exist, they must come from different timelines, right? When Captain America went back to live with Peggy, that was a new timeline, right? Why wasn't cap considered a variant?
@tonk3878
@tonk3878 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought, also in Infinity War they made like a bunch of different timelines (like when 2012 Thanos time jumps and dies) and yet no TVA interference, but when Loki does it he’s basically taken out of the times stream. MCU seems very much like patchwork.
@quingo7526
@quingo7526 3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same, there are multiple "sacred" timelines and the red line is what has been set up to stop varients connecting to other timelines and causing another timeline war. Varients such as silvie are when the red line does get crossed and the TVA we see is a puppet used by the "real" TVA to trim any branches of the time line. The "real" TVA watches the multi verse and ensures there is no crossings. Otherwise why is Wanda being a nexus being important if there is only 1 timeline. Alternatively this TVA is controlled by a bigger enemy that may only get teased and then shown in one of the movies, Kang for example is going to be inthe new Ant man. It is possible this TVA is being used to set the main mcu timeline to be Kangs own. Though he knows influencing main mcu events would bring unwanted attention to his plans so he is trimming "varients" that appear, or at least who he says is a varient, acting as a butterfly effect to push events into his own timeline.
@jaceh4942
@jaceh4942 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonk3878 yeah it's either a major plot hole or the TVA is lying about "the sacred timeline"
@boanbalax8792
@boanbalax8792 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonk3878 All of those events were supposed to happen by timekeeper as part of the sacred timeline. So, No branch created
@tonk3878
@tonk3878 3 жыл бұрын
@@boanbalax8792 You’re telling me that 2012 Thanos was supposed to die?! That was very clearly an alternate universe because they would never have an Infinity War.
@OvmODD
@OvmODD 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, ScreenCrush is the 🐐 out of all these Marvel and DC Breakdown, Spoilers and Easter eggs. 👏🥂👌
@MartinFelice
@MartinFelice 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! I just rewatched Pete and Pete, thank you for that ending!!
@gtd360
@gtd360 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going with a Loki variant going back in time and stealing Silvy from her parents (adopted). Loki then gives her the powers of Loki, and disappears. So, as she says, "Don't call me a Loki", and that "She was never taught anything". This is consistent with the comics.
@JuanRamirez-nx9jg
@JuanRamirez-nx9jg 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else feel that this was the best Doctor Who episode in a long time ? 🤔
@emilyhassel7914
@emilyhassel7914 3 жыл бұрын
Genius theory!!! Love it
@raquelc.c.4195
@raquelc.c.4195 2 жыл бұрын
This time the 👍 was especially for Doug! “I am happy 😐” , so cute! But the content is also great!
@norbertlevickij923
@norbertlevickij923 3 жыл бұрын
Got an idea what Silvia is a daughter of female Loki variant, what got captured (and maybe killed) by timekeepers when she was a baby. Now Silvia wants to destroy them because of that.
@lacasadehonor9408
@lacasadehonor9408 3 жыл бұрын
but how did loki become a woman? that must be another universe, because there is no way loki made "a wrong choice" to be a woman, only that the female sperm won the race
@norbertlevickij923
@norbertlevickij923 3 жыл бұрын
@@lacasadehonor9408 he may have ability to change to female at will. When talking to Silvia about relationships in a train he alludes that he had different sex partners "littlte bit of bought, same as you I assume". And in timekepers files his sex was written as fluid.
@lacasadehonor9408
@lacasadehonor9408 3 жыл бұрын
@@norbertlevickij923 i think the most probable thing is that she was born a she
@NurmiSimo
@NurmiSimo 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Sylvie gives up every time. They get thrown off the train: she just walks away. The ark is destroyed: she just walks away. Well I can kinda relate. Ok nothing to see here..
@bijaybudhathoki3329
@bijaybudhathoki3329 3 жыл бұрын
I think the whole episode is an illusion after she tries to control LOki. Which is why she gives up easily.
@rithistewartx5908
@rithistewartx5908 3 жыл бұрын
@@bijaybudhathoki3329 😱
@fourlightsorchestra
@fourlightsorchestra 3 жыл бұрын
@@bijaybudhathoki3329 dang!!!! Good idea!! Both deceiving each other. Sylvia creates an illusion of imminent disaster, and loki creates the illusion of a broken device.
@renbro2592
@renbro2592 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I think Loki is going to have fun with this. So so happy to see him again and to get to know him a bit better.
@ashtonchapman2613
@ashtonchapman2613 3 жыл бұрын
This show is amazing! Best marvel show yet!
@dirtyschoolclothes7260
@dirtyschoolclothes7260 3 жыл бұрын
She would have already knew where the time keepers were had she actually worked there and also would have known her powers don't work there. I personally don't think she's suppose to even exist at all and thats why she was brought in as a little girl (then escaped) hence why she has said "I've been on the run my whole life" .
@arnulfoacevedo8147
@arnulfoacevedo8147 3 жыл бұрын
Do you guys think that meshpisto is gonna show up and save Loki and Sylvie Mr. Nimbus style?
@canonballz4085
@canonballz4085 3 жыл бұрын
This is a joke right?
@arnulfoacevedo8147
@arnulfoacevedo8147 3 жыл бұрын
@@canonballz4085 I’m not a comedian
@canonballz4085
@canonballz4085 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnulfoacevedo8147 ok just wondering because that was the stupidest thing I have ever heard
@arnulfoacevedo8147
@arnulfoacevedo8147 3 жыл бұрын
@@canonballz4085 Omg Thank so much 💕
@canonballz4085
@canonballz4085 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnulfoacevedo8147 You're welcome :)
@xavineira9403
@xavineira9403 2 жыл бұрын
The way you do your ads is amazing!
@igormoreno3464
@igormoreno3464 3 жыл бұрын
A Fury Road metaphor for explaining timelines? Boy, do I love it!
@user-ed4co2du4q
@user-ed4co2du4q 3 жыл бұрын
I think Sylvie isn't a version of Loki, maybe she was given her powers by an older variant Loki (maybe a stronger version if the photocopy effect is any indication). Also, what if Loki is enchanting her just as she did to the TVA Agent?!
@lacasadehonor9408
@lacasadehonor9408 3 жыл бұрын
i think sylvie is laufey's daughter, and odin took her therefore creating an alternate timeline and the TVA noticed it, thats why she doesnt remember her mother
@VicRaptor2589
@VicRaptor2589 3 жыл бұрын
If she worked for the TVA....Why does she need to ask other for its location? I also dont think Loki is a variant, if avengers time travel event was supposed to happen, then they knew Hulk would throw a tantrum and unlock the case since.... everything is already written. I honestly think Quan is using Loki as a distraction to create the multiverse so he can u know cause chaos and do villanus things lol.
@sagnikdasgupta6910
@sagnikdasgupta6910 3 жыл бұрын
Maaan! Great thinking!!! This question was boggling my mind and taking over my sleep! 😂
@SuperEvolution1982
@SuperEvolution1982 3 жыл бұрын
I signed in and liked your video just because of the Pete and Pete reference. I loved that tv show.
@mikelboyd711
@mikelboyd711 3 жыл бұрын
All these channels over complicate these shows. They also seem to miss the part where the time keepers fused all the time lines into one fluid line. So all the time-lines still exist just in one fluid line. It's like a bundle of wires. Once they were tangled and all over the place now they are a nice tidy cable all wrapped nice and neat yet still heading in the same direction.
@allfenom
@allfenom 3 жыл бұрын
I got really confused when he started talkign about wet socks out of nowhere.
@cuca_
@cuca_ 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@jasonshaw2065
@jasonshaw2065 3 жыл бұрын
Inspector 34! Love Pete & Pete, thanks for another great video! I think both Lokis will see the multiverse as the only way true choice/freedom is possible, as opposed to the determinism of the sacred timeline. But freedom comes with chaos. Should be a fun ride.
@jyothiprakash496
@jyothiprakash496 3 жыл бұрын
The way you deviate from the context of video to a ad is just a gem... 😂😂😂
@lazycat6015
@lazycat6015 3 жыл бұрын
Ok but this doesn’t explain how she doesn’t know that her magic doesn’t work in the TVA
@damientom
@damientom 3 жыл бұрын
My theory: Renslayer is the founder of the TVA, and her true motive is to restore Kang's timeline. Kang is on the mystery time keepers' floor in a stasis chamber that preventing his erasure from the current timeline. PS side theory: Mobius is the 'other' analysis that brings Renslayer junk, he doesn't remember because he has been mind wiped and brain washed ✈️⛷️
@nickpapadopoulos6973
@nickpapadopoulos6973 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the mad max analogy
@johnsilwanus9774
@johnsilwanus9774 3 жыл бұрын
Duuuude, deep cut with Pete & Pete! That is an awesome callback.
@JohaCalderon
@JohaCalderon 3 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how she doesnt know that her powers were useless inside the place if she had been there before.
@Spiderman-_-007
@Spiderman-_-007 3 жыл бұрын
May be she forgot…
@charliehorse43
@charliehorse43 3 жыл бұрын
The only problem with your theory is why does she have to kidnapped a hunter to find out out were the Time Keepers are hanging out at the TVA. If she grew up and worked there she should know.
@trzmieluuu2129
@trzmieluuu2129 3 жыл бұрын
Erased memory
@ukaszg8681
@ukaszg8681 3 жыл бұрын
@@trzmieluuu2129 Of course! Amnesia! Greatest plot device in our multiverse :)
@tnlwithtrixiekat478
@tnlwithtrixiekat478 3 жыл бұрын
Your SEGWAYS are legend.
@sehbaanabbasi
@sehbaanabbasi 3 жыл бұрын
my guy just love the line 9:42
@deanmitchell1803
@deanmitchell1803 3 жыл бұрын
If she worked for the TVA how didn’t she know that her magic wouldn’t work at the TVA?
@swooshdave
@swooshdave 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvie isn't a Loki, just pretending to be. So far only the TVA has accused her of being a Loki. Keep in mind she's done nothing that even resembles how Loki behaves.
@LaDracul
@LaDracul 3 жыл бұрын
I still think she might be Amora...
@vision5092
@vision5092 3 жыл бұрын
It’s Loki 😎
@LaDracul
@LaDracul 3 жыл бұрын
@@vision5092 I really don't think so, but she could be working for the big bad.
@canonballz4085
@canonballz4085 3 жыл бұрын
No she's a Loki variant.... Have you been watching the show?
@LaDracul
@LaDracul 3 жыл бұрын
@@canonballz4085 Do you not remember Loki saying he'd never treat himself like that?
@thegamedetective1877
@thegamedetective1877 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that confuses me is the red line. If the red line is the “point of no return”, then how did classic Loki last so long in his timeline? And Alligator Loki’s nexus event being eating his neighbour, not the fact that he’s an alligator.
@rorymax
@rorymax 2 жыл бұрын
Right? How was the timeline alive enough where the female Loki was able to have a childhood?
@Planag7
@Planag7 3 жыл бұрын
I love that Pete and Pete reference at the end!
@KG_85
@KG_85 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think female Loki would have worked for the TVA in the past because she tried to use her magic in the TVA and would have known it wouldn't work if she had been a former member.
@trippytimesjosh355
@trippytimesjosh355 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate timelines duh. They are setting up a Pickle Pack of Peter Parkers. The MCU can't be the only timeline
@jazzoski7048
@jazzoski7048 3 жыл бұрын
Once you mentioned Pete & Pete, I had to subscribe! Awesome channel!!
@BradinSiouxCity
@BradinSiouxCity 3 жыл бұрын
Pete and Pete was the best. I had Constellation Artie painted on my wall in college. Smells like fresh tire air!
@abu4321
@abu4321 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Dark Place clips.
@Godparticle6
@Godparticle6 3 жыл бұрын
Yo Pete and Pete was my ish. Salute your shorts too
@chapman8369
@chapman8369 3 жыл бұрын
Will you do a video about the tech to time travel? The minimize one and the walk-through-the-door one
@EmperorPilaf04
@EmperorPilaf04 3 жыл бұрын
You have to get the Pete & Pete box sets! I have seasons 1 & 2 and that show totally still holds up!
@sinjun1973
@sinjun1973 3 жыл бұрын
I do think that Loki and Sylvie's conversation on the train was a bit disjointed with them each thinking of slightly different things but I don't think she learned about the TVA agents being variants by working for them. I think she learned it when she delves into their minds in search of the information she is looking for. By doing this she's picked up on alot of their speech patterns too. Being on the run from them for so long she would have had to learn as much about her enemy as possible if she wished to defeat them.
@jeffdeboer1679
@jeffdeboer1679 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the DEVS reference.
@cherakhalid
@cherakhalid 3 жыл бұрын
The best theory about Loki
@dmcupitty
@dmcupitty 3 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty good theory ryan
@sriley72783
@sriley72783 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I’m not the only person that remembers that episode of Pete and Pete.
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 11 ай бұрын
6:32, Though later information clarifies Sylvie’s nexus event that made strand reality woven into the rope of the Sacred Timeline unravel into a branch was seemingly her growing desire to become a hero like the Valkyrie’s she idolized, Loki’s shapeshifting was due to him learning magic (though only in Ragnarok and the show had his shapeshifting being confirmed as him genuinely transforming his body rather than projecting images and illusory forms over himself) and his Asgardian-passing form was induced by Odin, meaning he could only have gained the ability to affect his sex after he’d gained magical power. Sylvie’s sex being her nexus event would also mean the TVA would have tracked her far before she could grow up to become a preteen, which is ultimately why she later demand Ravonna to confirm what exactly it was that attracted the TVA to her.
@bireshroy876
@bireshroy876 3 жыл бұрын
Good one
@MGuest-zi5it
@MGuest-zi5it 3 жыл бұрын
Remember the part where Mobius doesn’t remember making the previous rings on the table. Either there are multiple Mobius variants or he has been or had his mind reset.
@vocalanjel
@vocalanjel 2 жыл бұрын
The Multiverse exists within the "Scared Timeline". The other Loki's are not variants of the 616 Loki but variants of Lokis' in other universes/story lines.
@samsonorji53
@samsonorji53 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like there are several loki's,the five that mobius showed him and the lady loki and the post credit scene of episode 4
@brentvogt7312
@brentvogt7312 3 жыл бұрын
Your Mad Max analogy is correct, both in Marvel, and in our actual multiverse.
@Webster132
@Webster132 2 жыл бұрын
Love it I tried to explain to everyone she is telling you she was taken in as a kid into the TVA and that is why she knows so much and wants to burn it down, she literally tells you.
@unfotunategaming
@unfotunategaming 3 жыл бұрын
In my perfect timeline ScreenCrush puts out their theory videos Wednesdays at 3 am so I can watch them immediately after the episode airs!
@jorgecarbajal8076
@jorgecarbajal8076 2 жыл бұрын
I do hope that we get to see more of Sylvie’s backstory in another episode. I’m also curious if we’ll see any aftermath of her plan at the end of episode 2.
@radwolf76
@radwolf76 3 жыл бұрын
Funny that you'd bring up the frogs that they talk about in Jurassic Park, since Miss Minutes is explicitly modeled on Mr. DNA from the park's introductory tour ride/film.
@bobybobobear
@bobybobobear 3 жыл бұрын
The second theory u mentioned is one that I wrote in one of your videos
@davinery1278
@davinery1278 3 жыл бұрын
His ads are very smooth
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