Lola Ford 97 - Higher Quality Version

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ajayrious

ajayrious

Күн бұрын

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@ajayrious
@ajayrious 2 жыл бұрын
There is a great podcast Bring Back V10's which did an episode about the Lola story, and what went wrong. Would highly recommend anyone interested enough to search out this video listens to that podcast.
@lonchi95
@lonchi95 13 жыл бұрын
i think the fault was of MasterCard (principal sponsor) because they knew the car is not ready to run until the next year.
@N1Gaming
@N1Gaming 12 жыл бұрын
This is true, Mastercard rushed Lola to enter the 1997 season when they planned to enter in 1998. This gave them alot less preparation time and when they needed Mastercard most they abandoned them leaving them totally fucked up. They had alot more potential than this, shame.
@wolfgangmarkusgstrein8522
@wolfgangmarkusgstrein8522 9 ай бұрын
These things happen when you just focus on the money!
@kimnice
@kimnice 13 жыл бұрын
Rush to the max: 1) No wind tunnel test (or CFD) 2) They had to find cheap engines fast and they didn't have any other choice than use Ford Zetec-V8 engines. These engines were poor in 1995..let alone 1997. Lola was designing their own V10 engine, but.. It's amazing that they got their car moving. I mean another new team, Stewart, had already presented their car when Lola started to design theirs.
@Chr.Monika6469
@Chr.Monika6469 15 күн бұрын
Damned be MasterCard!
@hugolafhugolaf
@hugolafhugolaf 3 жыл бұрын
When you're 7 seconds off the guy two places ahead of you, you have a problem.
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 2 жыл бұрын
And it's even worse, as Diniz bad time was caused by technical issues and because having already a practice time of 1:33.6 he was allowed to race anyway. He also did a similar time in the warmup. For Lola however this was the only time at least one of their cars stayed under 1:41…
@Smertyin092
@Smertyin092 13 жыл бұрын
I was offended by the fail of the Lola team. They were so succesful in other categories, that I thought they could the Williams, Ferrari, McLaren level in 2-3 years. This tragic result is obviously Mastercard's fault. But at least a great F1 joke was created: MASTERCARD LOLA '97: Salary of the drivers: 1,2 M dollars Cost of the motor: 6 M dollars Travel to Australia: 200 K dollars Qualifying the cars to the race: PRICELESS
@carsismeZ06
@carsismeZ06 13 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Lola would still be involved in F1 if MasterCard didn't rush them into entering a year early.
@azapro911
@azapro911 12 жыл бұрын
Seeing MasterCard suffer for their complete lack of knowing the reasons why you shouldn't rush the team you sponsor into building a car in two months flat instead of waiting a year and testing like you'd agreed: PRICELESS. Some F1 teams are run like well oiled machines. For all of the others, there's MasterCard.
@maciekwysocki2009
@maciekwysocki2009 2 жыл бұрын
It's horrible how MasterCard ruined that project
@asd36f
@asd36f 6 жыл бұрын
0:01 - "Making up the numbers" - indeed!
@powersurge001
@powersurge001 13 жыл бұрын
hotel room ...$200 tickets ...$400 ricardo rosset in a formula 1 one car ...priceless :)
@AlejjSi
@AlejjSi 13 жыл бұрын
@f1baker Reminds me of Jean Todt, when he joined Ferrari: "We´ve got everything that we need to have a racewin. Except for chassis, engine and gearbox"
@ShadowsBehindU
@ShadowsBehindU 12 жыл бұрын
"We have the experience, the commitment and the desire to succeed in F1. We have knowledge from our composites shop, our engineers cross over from both programs and the wind tunnel work we have done at Cranfield with the Indycar is directly applicable to F1. We have basically worked at lightening components down to F1 needs. We have taken the best ideas from specialists in the wind tunnel, aerodynamics, vehicle dynamics and the like to produce the final machine." Mastercard said. :>
@mundotaku_org
@mundotaku_org 14 жыл бұрын
At least the HRT was tested in a air tunnel. It is slow but at that time F1 wasn't as competitive as is today.
@luuduonghy659
@luuduonghy659 2 жыл бұрын
Great start for Jacque as he qualify pole on that day
@calumsensible
@calumsensible 14 жыл бұрын
@f1baker i get your point, but what im saying is the car was probably only 7 or 8 seconds off, those two added the other 4 by being rubbish.
@nickyjames1985
@nickyjames1985 3 жыл бұрын
That acid trance on opening Whooooaaaaahh
@KieranF1Kimi
@KieranF1Kimi 14 жыл бұрын
because they got rushed by mastercard to put the car in a year early.
@Aqualyx
@Aqualyx 13 жыл бұрын
I was like: LOOK A LOLA! YOU KNOW? LOLA? ..no..? D:
@grotestudder
@grotestudder 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Murray Walker
@Gaiajohan
@Gaiajohan 14 жыл бұрын
@swca92 No, it had very (extremely) bad aerodynamics... Very high drag that didn't offer downforce.
@mundotaku_org
@mundotaku_org 14 жыл бұрын
@PJ2436 I agree with you. They have proven to be slow, yet reliable. I still think that it would take one or two seasons to get in the same pace as Sauber.
@ald7248
@ald7248 2 жыл бұрын
The only good thing about the Lola F1 team was that somehow Roberto Moreno was spared from having to drive for them!
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 2 жыл бұрын
I guess he was finally fed up with driving for hopeless teams (just had left Dale Coyne a weak earlier, a team a team where he'd at least get to start the races but rarely finish them…).
@bourlivak88
@bourlivak88 14 жыл бұрын
exactly, the same situation...into the season without money and without any testing..at least there´s gonna be some fun on the track :D
@driller007
@driller007 14 жыл бұрын
i know i remember it well. was just highlighting f1bakers comment
@Jimnik088
@Jimnik088 7 жыл бұрын
Same engine as Tyrrell but worse chassis, worse tyres, worse drivers, no experience and no testing. Those times were pretty good.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 жыл бұрын
Tyrrell and Minardi had an engine that was up to snuff. Lola had the engine that Forti had used in 95 and 96.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 жыл бұрын
It probably was. Lola wanted to develop their own V10 but because MasterCard told them they had to go in a year early they had to get what they could at the lowest price. On my channel is the full story of the team.
@fueldragster
@fueldragster 14 жыл бұрын
Could be worse...The Life F1 car from 1990 was 30 (30!!!) seconds slower than the next qualifier (And 38 seconds slower than poll!!)
@weofnjieofing
@weofnjieofing 2 жыл бұрын
Lola was a great race car manufacturer. Did fantastic in indycar and sports car racing. A shame they wasted their money in F1 should just stick to customer chassis manufacturer.
@driller007
@driller007 15 жыл бұрын
yeah dead right there. it didnt even get put through a wind tunnel
@Suprahampton
@Suprahampton 13 жыл бұрын
@Smertyin092 They could've been quite successful if they entered in 98 as planned... such a waste
@tommykl
@tommykl 14 жыл бұрын
the car didn't even do testing who knows what could have happened if they came in 1998 as they sould have done?
@Jejking
@Jejking 13 жыл бұрын
@KieranF1Kimi A year later and that car would be even more off the pace. But to be fair, in this video you can actually SEE the progression Lola made that weekend and its ability to challenge the frontrunners, in the pitlane!
@PJ2436
@PJ2436 14 жыл бұрын
@mundotaku So, there's been 3 races and what I can say is, the HRT is the slowest, but barely, they're only a tenth off of lotus and virgin, but the HRT is reliable, unlike the Virgins. Maybe at Barcelona, when all teams come with major upgrades(new aero kits, new hydraulics, new everything) they will catch up and pass, or get left behind.
@hugolafhugolaf
@hugolafhugolaf 3 жыл бұрын
They're all gone.
@dmc1200
@dmc1200 13 жыл бұрын
@f1fantic1 Hispania hands down - Lola had virtually no time to prepare whereas Hispania have had months on end, there really is no excuse.
@nate567987
@nate567987 9 жыл бұрын
and 2 DNPs as well
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 3 жыл бұрын
DNQ
@nate567987
@nate567987 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSniperfox29 right pre qul was got rid of in 94'
@2POWERFUL
@2POWERFUL 13 жыл бұрын
@f1baker Blame it on Mastercard, their main sponsor. They've been pressured to get it on track early, despite it isn't tested and perfected yet. They could have just wait for the 98' Championship instead. Those cars looked great to look at, like an eye candy with a harmony of colors that stands out among other teams. Sadly it didn't go further than after Brazilian GP 97'.
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 3 жыл бұрын
Tested? When Mastercard told them to enter they hadn't even designed the car
@mundotaku_org
@mundotaku_org 14 жыл бұрын
No, they aren't. At least not faster than the Lotus. We should wait and see if in a couple of races they get to be at least at the same level of the new teams after the practices.
@hanjarake_taro
@hanjarake_taro 3 жыл бұрын
Lola cars somehow look like the cars from 1998 They must have been too advanced
@leandrociarrapico9256
@leandrociarrapico9256 3 жыл бұрын
Well, they planned to enter in the 1998 season but Mastercard told them to enter in 1997, thats the reason why the car was so off the pace.
@blainy-o93
@blainy-o93 13 жыл бұрын
@govedar4o Minardi and Tyrrell didn't get V10s until 1998
@edoslacker
@edoslacker 13 жыл бұрын
that f1 car was slower than a farm machinery
@f1fantic1
@f1fantic1 13 жыл бұрын
lola or hispania which is worse?
@calumsensible
@calumsensible 14 жыл бұрын
@f1baker i reckon they also lacked drivers.. Diniz PAID Arrows for his seat that year and is far more capable than either of those two.. its a pretty well knowen fact that if you put Schumacher (or Hakkinen or even Hill) in a lower class car they can still drag it close to the front..
@PJ2436
@PJ2436 14 жыл бұрын
they can't be that bad, they've got enough money, and the car is designed by dallara, who make the chassis for indycar, formula 3, and they were in f1 before. they may not be as fast as the more experienced guys, but i'll bet my ass that they're faster than virgin and lotus.
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 3 жыл бұрын
Who were you on about?
@PJ2436
@PJ2436 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSniperfox29 wow this one is old, think i was talking about HRT
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 3 жыл бұрын
@@PJ2436 LOL, thank god for that I was worried you were talking about Lola
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 3 жыл бұрын
@@PJ2436 And you were half right, they did indeed beat the Virgin team (2-1) but were much slower that the Lotus's.
@onewildcarl82
@onewildcarl82 14 жыл бұрын
Lola Epic Fail
@quench100
@quench100 12 жыл бұрын
They'd have been better off running a tractor.
@Germinator-23-
@Germinator-23- 13 жыл бұрын
LOLah ah ah
@Skellingtor97
@Skellingtor97 13 жыл бұрын
@carsismeZ06 Probably would have been a little better.
@hisatennis
@hisatennis 13 жыл бұрын
diniz lol
@azidahaka2
@azidahaka2 15 жыл бұрын
ahahah i remeber lolas being so bad and sospiri disappointed in wasting so much money to drive them :)
@flipsidedogchop
@flipsidedogchop 13 жыл бұрын
a 3 wheel van would be quicker!
@SupercarsGT
@SupercarsGT 11 жыл бұрын
a disaster
@govedar4o
@govedar4o 13 жыл бұрын
well The lola was with v8 engine vs v10 of all of the grid and..the car has incredibly ..how can i say.. SQUARE aerodynamics..
@josef733
@josef733 5 жыл бұрын
uhh, several cars were still running V8s
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