London tower block with 'non-compliant cladding' goes up in flames

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The Telegraph

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@PragmaticOptimist_N7 2 ай бұрын

Appreciate the reporting. Now, WHO'S going to jail for allowing it to be installed?!

@ellenbainprior4682 2 ай бұрын

As always - nobody!

@user-zm9xf7mo4p 2 ай бұрын

Have the people from Grenfell even been homed yet???? Probably not

@darrenporter1850 2 ай бұрын

They knew. Criminal then.

@commontater1785 2 ай бұрын

How on Earth did flammable cladding ever become a thing?

@michaelb2388 2 ай бұрын

Because it's difficult to come up with any lightweight external insulation/cladding that's not flammable. Most of it is plastic foam

@commontater1785 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelb2388 I see. Thanks.

@MarkMiller-f6c 2 ай бұрын

Greed, greed allowed it to become a thing

@anthonymitchell8893 2 ай бұрын

your too nice dont thsnk him and take what he says is gospel ?

@deanj-up 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelb2388Right so not difficult then is it? They'd just prefer to stuff the plastic onto our buildings so they can jam the cash Into their pockets.

@CarolPrice4p 2 ай бұрын

Every one of those brave firefighters deserves a medal; but this was a crime and should not have happened.

@BotanicalAngel 2 ай бұрын

😮u don’t see any police officers 👮 around or local authorities 😂 Where are the innocent insurance companies

@olivere5497 2 ай бұрын

@@CarolPrice4p in that case those fire fighter criminals should be stripped of their medals!

@jerryhughes5380 Ай бұрын

The crime was that the London Building Commissioner allowed highly flammable cladding installation during plan review before the building was built. Just like Grenfell.

@BotanicalAngel Ай бұрын

@@jerryhughes5380 yup! It’s money laundering lobbying inners pocketing billions Notice no councillors No house association Notice NO Polices At least the firefighters 🧯 arrived 🚒 Notice No Shelter arrangements available on handling Notice How our country isn’t a preparing for anything! They just tax vats raining ⛈️🌩️⚡️🌪️🔥☄️gaslighting racism cards 🃏 against humanity 🪪 ☔️ They’re repressions the land space and makes us displaced homeless status jobless penniless

@Aureus_ 2 ай бұрын

NOT AGAIN

@johnd2058 2 ай бұрын

Bloody hell, it's worse than NYC. If New York can do better, why not London?

@olivere5497 2 ай бұрын

Again!

@Rav01508 2 ай бұрын

Tofu

@yellowgreen5229 2 ай бұрын

Of course, nobody prosecuted, nobody paid, no law passed, of course, we are responsible for LETTING THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!

@MingxKobe 2 ай бұрын

Dj Khaled - another one

@andrewwhitcombe8133 2 ай бұрын

It beggars belief! You'd think after Grenfell everyone would change ....

@michaelb2388 2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately that's easy to say but not so easy to do. Find an external insulation material that isn't flammable

@The-Cat 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelb2388 good old clay BRICKS

@matthewbaynham6286 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelb2388there is plenty of cladding that is fire resistant but it costs a little more.

@sammiller6631 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelb2388 rockwool doesn't catch fire or melt until 850C or higher, but it costs more than styrofoam insulation. rockwool is made like candy floss with molten stone, whereas styrofoam uses flammable gases like pentane or butane to expand its bubbles. That's like insulating your wall with bubble wrap filled with petrol.

@adrianthoroughgood1191 2 ай бұрын

They were in the middle of taking it off! That's why the scaffolding was there!

@J00Ls 2 ай бұрын

What didn't they learn from the last one??? That profit comes before people?? Ah, yes. They learnt that.

@J00Ls 2 ай бұрын

@AnonAnonUK2024 Yup. Insurance fraud? All sorts of reasons if it was set deliberately?! If it was an accident, it highlights the lack of care and duty of whoever was meant to be checking all the flats since the last time this happened, or who ever received the report if it was checked.

@sandryushka 2 ай бұрын

@@J00Ls Nope, they knew that profit comes before people all their bloody existence. The whole country is built off this principle, and has existed like this for the last 400+ years.

@Xinjiekou_新街口_Station 2 ай бұрын

@@sandryushka Welp whatever the case since this already happened I guess it will be jail time.......

@dougaltolan3017 2 ай бұрын

Out here, in the real world, projects like that don't just happen in a wish.

@J00Ls 2 ай бұрын

@@dougaltolan3017 2017 was The Grenfell Tower fire. How long does it usually take for Building Health and Safety (British Standards) to find out how many multi story buildings have cladding, who was the manufacture and the supplier to see if any detail may correlate? And then get to work?

@PNN_ParodyNewsNetwork 2 ай бұрын

Tries to save a few cents on materials, whole building needs to be restored.

@a44489 2 ай бұрын

Life

@PragmaticOptimist_N7 2 ай бұрын

Exactly, almost seems like someone is trying an insurance jobby - and I don't mean the residents. I wonder if it'd be cheaper to rebuild rather than 'rip off and replace'? Have to resettle the people living there anyway so someone's definitely getting paid!

@alansmith795 2 ай бұрын

And they'd rather spend on boat illegals than safety

@deanj-up 2 ай бұрын

It's pennies and pounds in England not cents and dollars.

@deanj-up 2 ай бұрын

@@PragmaticOptimist_N7it's not cheaper to rebuild it's cheaper to build poorly then keep having it maintained.

@stevo1516 2 ай бұрын

Good luck getting re-housed👍

@dubiousName 2 ай бұрын

All those families 😢

@patrickormerod3472 2 ай бұрын

At least they knew about the non-compliant cladding. They just chose not to do anything about it.

@DuaneHallinSD 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like they had started taking it down. Thats what the scaffolding was for.

@aik-17-82 2 ай бұрын

@@DuaneHallinSDI walk around the area 3-4 times a week and I have seen the scaffolding there for the last few months

@asmith9140 2 ай бұрын

Nothing less than attempted murder

@jolyonholloway483 2 ай бұрын

It's strange how some buildings which have remained intact for decades or even centuries,catch fire when work is being carried out on them.Remember Windsor Castle and Notre Dame!

@dougaltolan3017 2 ай бұрын

Not really.

@AnotherPointOfView944 2 ай бұрын

Notre Dame had a wooden structure, which kinda burns.

@jolyonholloway483 2 ай бұрын

@@AnotherPointOfView944 Still doesn't explain how it survived for centuries unscathed until it was being renovated recently.

@classics39 2 ай бұрын

And recently an iconic Middle Ages tower in the center of Copenhagen.....

@rentisme 2 ай бұрын

This is the second time this has happened now, I had to doubletake when I saw the video was in fact posted 9 hours ago and not 7 years previously.

@villagerearlofcedarham7893 2 ай бұрын

Greenfell 2.0?

@boataxe4605 2 ай бұрын

7 years to get that stuff off of buildings.

@nikiTricoteuse 2 ай бұрын

Such a relief to see water being pumped DOWN on the flames. When l read the title all l could think was, please, not another Grenfell. I hope they got everyone out. Love from Aotearoa/ New Zealand.

@azenkwed 2 ай бұрын

Money money money mooooney..... money !

@movesky6696 2 ай бұрын

just greed

@dougaltolan3017 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, money, try building a block of apartments, without money

@intenseninja82 2 ай бұрын

London really has money to burn, whilst there are so many homeless people sleeping rough.

@susandellet7121 2 ай бұрын

Glenfell all over again

@mwd331 2 ай бұрын

Grenfell and no it’s not.

@sammiller6631 2 ай бұрын

@@mwd331 How is this not like Grenfell Tower?

@mwd331 2 ай бұрын

@@sammiller6631 About 70 dead people and a destroyed highrise building?

@intenseninja82 2 ай бұрын

Things will only get much worst before it gets better

@deanj-up 2 ай бұрын

That's why they suppressed the Grenfell situation for over five years because they had no intention of stopping anyone else doing this.

@adrianthoroughgood1191 2 ай бұрын

They stopped any new flammable insulation being installed. But there are thousands of buildings that already had it on and there was a big argument about who should pay to have it replaced.

@3rah356 2 ай бұрын

If the building had fire safety issues, then the question rises, how the hell it was allowed to be built?

@Badgersj 2 ай бұрын

Was the block empty, like totally empty? People may have been moved out for the refurbishment, but if that's the case just think of their things that have gone up in smoke. I doubt any of them would have fire insurance. If a fund is started for them, give to it. Update: there were residents, it looks like they've all been moved out, but that also means that they've lost everything. The building was being renovated to replace the flammable cladding, which is a horrible irony. As I said, if there's a fund, give to it.

@phaasch 2 ай бұрын

So they were just starting to take down the cladding, 7 years after Grenfell. Well that's saved them a job, anyway.

@BollywoodBonanzaB 2 ай бұрын

The Tories had FOUR PRIME MINISTERS since Grenfell. I cannot believe this has happened again while they were crossing on about sending people to Rwanda. They never learned to look after the people who are _here_. I hope everyone survived this and gets the emotional help they will need.

@LRSTGS 2 ай бұрын

Who's the mayor of London again???

@Christina-uh8xk 2 ай бұрын

How long have they had to remove the cladding? Disgusting!

@PC1974 2 ай бұрын

They have learnt nothing since Grenfell.

@sandryushka 2 ай бұрын

And they never will learn anything.

@nicolasjleclercq821 2 ай бұрын

Its the same with war, human never learn, they keep doing war.

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

@@nicolasjleclercq821 Doesn't work like that if a dictator invades a country others have to go to war with them like when hamas attacked the jews.

@JB.87 2 ай бұрын

Councils are finally starting to do fireprotection just have to keep on at them it's ridiculous

@Naturebug12 2 ай бұрын

Grenfell comes to mind. Tragic. RIP all those from Grenfell 😢

@394pjo 2 ай бұрын

Hopefully the shareholders of the company that made the cladding have managed to pull all their cash out. It's not personal, it's strictly business.

@jasongrundy1717 2 ай бұрын

Cheap construction material for cheap buildings for people with no money but lots of cats to piss on everything.

@Flo1918 2 ай бұрын

What caused the fire ?? I am just seeing this now..😮

@michaelb2388 2 ай бұрын

Most people commenting here don't know what they're talking about.

@jordan8168 2 ай бұрын

Maybe the cladding issue shouldve been addressed and not left down to the tenants to pay when they didnt order it to be installed........ Also note the materials used are fire resistant not retardant meaning even if they are changed if the fire goes on for long enough or it engulfs the object it will catch alight

@BowserLucaTheThird 2 ай бұрын

The tories left us so many presents we havent even finished unwrapping them

@LRSTGS 2 ай бұрын

Mayor of London is responsible

@adrianthoroughgood1191 2 ай бұрын

@@LRSTGSnothing to do with the mayor. Housing is managed by councils.

@AnotherPointOfView944 2 ай бұрын

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 which are..... labour!!

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

Labour council added cladding in many areas.

@Mike_5 2 ай бұрын

How can a Tower Block be permitted to stay open with a Fire Alarm system that is non functional?

@johnvaleanbaily246 2 ай бұрын

What the hell is wrong with fire code implementation and enforcement ??

@adrianthoroughgood1191 2 ай бұрын

Fires safety assessments got shifted to the private sector instead of the public sector. They should be administered by a national body. Instead private companies compete to get building companies to pay them to get their cladding approved for use. Thus there is an incentive for the private companies to skimp on the testing to save money (they do calculations on a computer simulation instead of actually lighting it on fire to see how fast it burns) and there is an incentive to be generous to what they will approve because a company who is strict will not get chosen for the tests so will get less business. It's an insane system that show never have been allowed to happen.

@markb1764 2 ай бұрын

Wrapping buildings in styrofoam with a thin layer of mortar for appearance sake is sadly very common. Here in Canada we are throwing years of fire safety in the toilet by allowing 6 story wood construction because doing it properly with concrete is kind of costly for those poor developers

@craigrees6474 2 ай бұрын

Wake up people! The government doesn't care. If they did this wouldn't happen again.

@sandryushka 2 ай бұрын

The government has never cared! It's just that nowadays this principle is being revealed to us in all its glory.

@snotwurfit 2 ай бұрын

Well done Tories

@AnotherPointOfView944 2 ай бұрын

Its a council problem. Not UK government.

@VincentJayapaul 2 ай бұрын

Very sad, in a, City known for its grit and wit.

@EllieMaes-Grandad 2 ай бұрын

That was then; this is now.

@tigertiger1699 2 ай бұрын

It’s hardly a tower

@dominus.8923 2 ай бұрын

España no detiene nunca a los miles de criminales que deunciamos en youtube.

@jeanmay-millman4124 2 ай бұрын

Again 😢😡

@Starmerispureevil 2 ай бұрын

Another cannibas factory discovered?

@richardmarsden1897 2 ай бұрын

Things shall get worse before it gets better.

@EllieMaes-Grandad 2 ай бұрын

Certainly worse to come, but will it ever get better?

@CheersDits2979 2 ай бұрын

Strange how this always happens in social housing blocks.

@deadcarz4926 2 ай бұрын

No. Stop stirring up trouble, Vlad.

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

Its the cheapest buildings that labour added cladding to to make the areas look safer and posh.

@Collateralcoffee 2 ай бұрын

And here I thought Grenfell taught them a lesson....

@roberthamilton4726 2 ай бұрын

Who signed this building off?

@rhyshigga 2 ай бұрын

Safety regulations are usually written in blood, but this time they just weren't written!

@dannymulroy4332 2 ай бұрын

Building control and the local authority have sat on the issue for years, anyone would think we're a third world country with the way this country is run

@Novastar.SaberCombat 2 ай бұрын

Stay classy, humanity.

@simonn4077 2 ай бұрын

Possibly arson 😮?

@AreHan1991 2 ай бұрын

Again?!? Isn’t anyone gonna do something about corrupt builders not following the building codes?

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

Glenfell the labour council signed it off their idea to clad them.

@unknown644 2 ай бұрын

Is or just me the past few days alot of stuff all over the worlds been going down.

@paulhealey2984 2 ай бұрын

Heavy smoke? Not thick smoke.

@batmandestroys1978 2 ай бұрын

Those Famous words, lessons are be learned from this! It never will!

@jules263 2 ай бұрын

Dagenham is not London. It’s Essex at best

@DataDon-rl1mb 2 ай бұрын

Your geography is in a worse state that that building is now.

@leemccabemccabe5627 2 ай бұрын

🙏

@johnrichardson7548 2 ай бұрын

Who runs that council??? Disgrace

@buzz5969 2 ай бұрын

Im not sure what cladding is

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

Flamable plastic they added to the whole surface to cheap looking buildings it has a gap between it and the wall creating a chimney effect shooting the heat and flames up behind it. it gets the fire from the first floor to the 20th in about 20 mins.

@mickybroke1124 2 ай бұрын

LFB or Londons flammable buildings 🤨🤔

@mariaducie-wu8lm 2 ай бұрын

Here we go again

@kinomusic9110 2 ай бұрын

Someone having a voodoo ceremony in the living room again?

@terencemartin3649 2 ай бұрын

that"s 1 way of getting the cladding off i suppose? ? ? ?

@missykowalewski 2 ай бұрын

Kinda a thing for them. Would be interested to know what proposed projects r possibly set for that area. Maybe Grenfell was a proving ground. Bet there is a huge story inside this.

@DOWNUNDER. 2 ай бұрын

Not another one , 😢

@AnotherPointOfView944 2 ай бұрын

no its not, fortunately.

@Cherrytune386 2 ай бұрын

Not another one! 😡

@Richierich62. 2 ай бұрын

Another 10yr enquiry blaming each other

@nightowl6260 2 ай бұрын

What is "cladding"?

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

Plastic to walls

@shortround551 2 ай бұрын

Well now it’s labours turn to take responsibility for the properties of fire

@AnotherPointOfView944 2 ай бұрын

No. Its the council that is responsible. Check it yourself.

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

@@AnotherPointOfView944 Labour is in charge of the councils.

@blaydCA 2 ай бұрын

Ah yes... "Ye Olde Expedited Removal Process" Saved some Farthings there!

@robbo8201 2 ай бұрын

Quick, somebody blame Labour and the immigrants

@jasongrundy1717 2 ай бұрын

I mean... it had lots of opportunity to burn down before England became New Pakistan, but it didn't...

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

Was labour's idea to clad all the cheap looking tall buildings in plastic.

@whatsgoinon5516 2 ай бұрын

How much money have we sent to Israel ?

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

Not enough but too much money goes on religion.

@whatsgoinon5516 2 ай бұрын

@@Jim-i2y Britain first !!!

@tazzerdeathstalker 2 ай бұрын

So lucky we stopped making stone buildings !

@shehnazshorkar8932 2 ай бұрын

So sad 😭

@intenseninja82 2 ай бұрын

🤣

@stevo091 2 ай бұрын

Property development area 🤔

@MrVibrating 2 ай бұрын

The advent of planned obsolescence in electrical appliances, together with the arrival of Li-ion batteries, has met a perfect storm in this zeal for tarting up carbuncles with colourful fuel tablets..

@Amsyprologic 2 ай бұрын

No one is talking about people's negligence, everyone just want and demand but never take care of what they have. All the social block's look like a shithole blaming the councils. Insted of crying maybe buy a bucket of paint and redecorate the flat and lift lobby, etc. If the clading is problematic, don;t smoke and trow the cigaret bud anyware, etc. The issue are the people and then the goverment.

@Kqlk-1 2 ай бұрын

No one cares! Greetings from India 🇮🇳

@blaster915 2 ай бұрын

They knew but just didnt care. Money always comes first

@SueCarr-q8n 2 ай бұрын

Appalling, perhaps anorher grenfell

@robertward8035 2 ай бұрын

Every building the world over was built by the cheapest bidder on everything and anything involved in the project, from the architecture, elevators, electric, drywall, steel. Even building codes are "least best" mainly because of material manufacturers. Make the engineered wood association mad, or the roofing tile manufacturers ..... Go ahead, the better way might cost 50 extra bucks.

@monkeyboy8424 2 ай бұрын

Brown envelopes may have been involved.

@StormHawks120 2 ай бұрын

glad i aint delivering furniture from furniture village there

@alippay2 2 ай бұрын

Deja vu?

@democracyoverdictatorship7483 2 ай бұрын

Here we go again…Grenfell tower 2.0

@AnotherPointOfView944 2 ай бұрын

no its not. try reading about it.

@democracyoverdictatorship7483 2 ай бұрын

@@AnotherPointOfView944 They both involve the use of claddings made from highly flammable materials… Here are the striking similarities…

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

@@AnotherPointOfView944 it had the potential same problem.

@rassman48 2 ай бұрын

So they didn't learn from the last one. Has Khan been out yet claiming that it has nothing to do with him, like he did with Grenfell even though the plans for the cladding had been on his desk for approval?

@adrianthoroughgood1191 2 ай бұрын

It doesn't have anything to do with the mayor! Housing is managed by the councils.

@UnicornPurple-ut8wf 2 ай бұрын

May be for insurance

@tylerm2676 2 ай бұрын

I thought new regulations were inforced for all of this ? Were no lessons learned last time ?

@adrianthoroughgood1191 2 ай бұрын

the cladding was probably put up before the grenfel fire. It was in the process of being taken down.

@Jim-i2y 2 ай бұрын

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 six years later after they said they would remove it right away.

@adrianthoroughgood1191 2 ай бұрын

@@Jim-i2y no one ever said it would be done immediately. It was always going to take a while. But I think this building was delayed more because it's not very tall. The government only promises to pay for removal on tall buildings. I think this one might be below the cut off.

@Oldskoolraver-OG 2 ай бұрын

Insurance job

@paulmorgan6269 2 ай бұрын

So starts yet another review that will take years to come to it's findings. Keir at the wheel.

@kathleenj01 2 ай бұрын

They have known for 7 years that the cladding should have been removed, not a big fan of keir, but he's not responsible for the past years of neglect.