Londoniyyah - Part 9 - Proofs of God's Existence | Mohammed Hijab

Londoniyyah - Part 9 - Proofs of God's Existence | Mohammed Hijab
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[@asadullahsaaid3794]

*Timestamps for Chapters:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:22 - Recitation of the Poem 1:53 - Topics to be covered 2:26 - Using Philosophy in Islam 5:25 - Objections by Salafis, Atharis & Asharis 6:27 - Concept of Fitrah & its evidence 8:42 - Ibn Taymiyyah's response to Aristotelian Logic 11:25 - The Contingency Argument 14:19 - Schedule of the Lessons 15:58 - Background of Hijab's rendition of the argument 18:22 - Objections to the Argument 19:32 - Background of Ibn Sina & his approach 25:52 - 3 Major books by Ibn Sina on God's Existence 26:22 - 1st Argument by Ibn Sina: [The Burhan Argument] 40:38 - Modern Contentions to the Argument in terms of Universe(s) 44:51 - Response to the contentions by the Burhan Argument 1:00:35 - How the Universe is made of parts? 1:05:42 - Why the Necessary Being (God) can only be one? 1:08:12 - Fallacies of a Circular Set 1:10:26 - Ibn Sina vs Al Ghazali on the Infinite Regress 1:13:23 - Summary 1:20:12 - Necessary Facts vs Necessary Existence 1:21:26 - QnA & Discussion SUBHANALLAH ❤️🤍❤️ Another Very Beneficial Stream _May Allah ﷻ bless and reward you all._

[@kabhussain3113]

Bro your everywhere with these time stamps. So beneficial.. thank you.

[@filanfisteku5974]

3 major books by ibn sina not ibn taymiyyah*

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

​@@filanfisteku5974 بارك الله فيك أخي

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

@@kabhussain3113 Jazakallah khair brother ☺️😊

[@rizwan4858]

Kurya kudayen khar. Ye cheth cxe wara aasel kaame kurmech.

[@Fiorenzina]

This serie is life-changing, crystal clear. This is literally a philosophy bachelor in a couple of hours.

[@IbnThabitVerlag]

omg I couldn't agree more subhanAllah!!

[@seeki3315]

a wisdom of al lah or a donkey? the loud-voiced thunder-bolts s41;3 "Indeed, this is a clear book which is easy to understand, a guide for all mankind. s10:38 Or do they say, "He forged it"? say: "Bring then a Sura like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can besides Allah, if it be ye speak the truth!" s13;13 Nay, thunder repeateth His praises, and so do the angels, with awe: He flingeth the loud-voiced thunder-bolts, and therewith He striketh whomsoever He will.. yet these (are the men) who (dare to) dispute about Allah, with the strength of His power (supreme)! i thought i was only one who had a thundere bolt! Zeus on mount olympus

[@axis2312]

Right!! Alhamdulillah

[@deistormmods]

@@seeki3315 It really is strange that someone could be dumb during the age of information.

[@thecasualmuslim]

@@seeki3315 Quran 17:44: The seven heavens and the earth and whatever is in them exalt Him. And there is not a thing except that it exalts [Allah] by His praise, but you do not understand their [way of] exalting. Indeed, He is ever Forbearing1 and Forgiving.

[@strictlyyoutube6881]

Big shout out to camera man

[@DawahDigital]

Thank you ❤️💯

[@Avraham.Eisenberg]

I like that the camera position changes, makes is feel like I'm there. Good work editing guy!

[@DawahDigital]

Thank you ❤️💯

[@oggamer2244]

@@DawahDigital ❤️great job bro

[@DawahDigital]

@@oggamer2244 thank you جزاكم ﷲ خيرا

[@kabhussain3113]

Sapience is amazing for the dawah scene. They deserve all our support

[@Maryam-qh7ef]

Yesss %100!

[@dannicu2029]

It's really strange that someone could be dumb during the age of information. I'm speaking about Hijab. There is NO evidence there is a creator, Allah or other. Only weak minds confuse the complexity of Universe with proofs or some god's miracles. Poor children...

[@DalipZ]

@@dannicu2029 bro, dont you have some electrons to decompose down to? This isn’t a message that appeals to you? Wonderful, take a walk......

[@dannicu2029]

@@DalipZ I am NOT God to be able to decompose electrons. What's wrong with your mind to think such a nonsense??? It is a free world, child, so I have the right to comment. So, if you don't like me, go and look for me elsewhere.

[@kabhussain3113]

@@Moath1277 , omg really sheikh Abdul feda.. that's so amazing.. Like I really got a clue who this random Abdul is or that anyone cares What he has to say

[@rycoolhead]

Even Allah and His Messenger SAW (in the Quran and Sunnah) appealed to the rational thought of the Quraysh as a means of doing exactly what Mohammed Hijab says the use of philosophy (i.e. rational thought) is for, to get people to Islam and to deconstruct false ideas.

[@dcanedemboyz7431]

Every episode more and more swag

[@Darkev77]

With regards to Ibn Sina, it was narrated that he made tawba towards the end of his life, so Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala Knows best

[@kingsentertainment786]

Really?

[@abousaalih8177]

And then he became a salafi obviously ;)

[@UltimateFreekickerzdok]

@@abousaalih8177 not necessary. Hopefully he became sunni.

[@abousaalih8177]

@@UltimateFreekickerzdok it was a joke, you know when salafis say about scholars with opposing views that they repent and become salafi.

[@UltimateFreekickerzdok]

@@abousaalih8177i understand My Dear beloved brother. Just a reminder, The Prophet ﷺ advised not to lie even when joking

[@alib7489]

This series is a very important academic service for the Ummah. Jazakallah.

[@seeki3315]

a wisdom of al lah or a donkey? the loud-voiced thunder-bolts s41;3 "Indeed, this is a clear book which is easy to understand, a guide for all mankind. s10:38 Or do they say, "He forged it"? say: "Bring then a Sura like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can besides Allah, if it be ye speak the truth!" s13;13 Nay, thunder repeateth His praises, and so do the angels, with awe: He flingeth the loud-voiced thunder-bolts, and therewith He striketh whomsoever He will.. yet these (are the men) who (dare to) dispute about Allah, with the strength of His power (supreme)! i thought i was only one who had a thundere bolt! Zeus on mount olympus

[@seeki3315]

@@Moath1277 contradictions in quran I will cause thee to die 1st ayah - Isa as a prophet was raised up alive with whole body and soul. He was was not crucified nor dead but Allah raised him up to heaven I will cause thee to die, and I will raise thee to Me, and I will purify thee of those who believe not. I will set thy followers above the unbelievers till the resurrection Day (Sura al Imran 55) who cause isa to die? al lah cause to die. who will raise isa to al lah? al lah raise isa. who will purify isa? al lah will purify isa. who will set isa above the unbeievers at the resurrection day? al lh will set isa followers.

[@jamworthy14]

@@seeki3315 thats so dumb man. you are embarassing yourself

[@seeki3315]

@@jamworthy14 Question How old will you be in heaven(both men and women) for eternity?. Answer The people of Paradise will enter Paradise in the most perfect and beautiful form, in the form of their father Adam (peace be upon him), whom Allaah created with His own hand and perfected his form and made his shape beautiful. Everyone who enters Paradise will be in the form of Adam. It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah created Adam in his form, sixty cubits tall… and everyone who enters Paradise will be in the form of Adam, sixty cubits tall…” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5873; Muslim, 7092 With regard to their ages, they will all enter Paradise at the age of strength and youth, thirty-three years old. It was narrated from Mu’aadh ibn Jabal that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The people of Paradise will enter Paradise hairless, beardless with their eyes anointed with kohl, aged thirty or thirty-three years.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2545. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7928 It was also narrated by Ahmad (8505) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him), with the words “thirty three years old”, with no doubt. muslimas! all ur husbands r all looks like adam in 33 yrs old. ur husbands, brothers, friends, ur fathers, how can u tell ur sex partners????????

[@jamworthy14]

@@seeki3315 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂this is embarrassing

[@waelalharby4844]

I love deep discussions on philosophy while drinking a Caprisons 😂

[@IsmailSarkaya-ll4ts]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:09 🧐 This session focuses on discussing the proofs of God's existence, starting with the recitation of a poem and an explanation. 02:04 📜 This series will cover various contingency arguments, including cosmological and ontological arguments, to prove God's existence. 03:17 🤝 The use of philosophy in Islamic discussions is not about changing the religion but primarily to bring people to Islam and deconstruct unIslamic ideas. 07:30 🧒 Children are born with an instinct to believe in a higher power, which is a natural inclination, but this instinct alone is not a demonstrative proof of God's existence. 12:55 🌌 The universe did not come from nothing, and it did not create itself, suggesting the existence of an ultimate, independent cause. 18:07 📚 The speaker has specialized in contingency arguments for God's existence, and the course will include discussions on objections and role-playing debates. 22:34 📜 Avicenna, although influenced by Aristotle, didn't accept the full paradigm of Aristotelian logic and went beyond it. 25:56 📚 The primary source materials for Ibn Sina's arguments for God's existence are the books "Najet," "Ishifa," and "Pointers and Reminders." 26:27 🤔 Ibn Sina's argument begins with the assertion that there is no doubt about the existence of something. 28:34 🔄 Ibn Sina argues that everything that exists is either contingent (needing something else to exist) or necessary (self-sufficient and independent). 30:19 🧮 Ibn Sina uses set theory to illustrate his argument, emphasizing that a set of contingent things cannot include necessary things. 37:38 🌌 Ibn Sina's argument refutes the idea of an infinite series of contingent existences, leading to the necessity of a necessary existence (God) to explain them. 42:11 📖 This argument, called "Burhan al-Siddiqin," has never been packaged for apologetic purposes in the philosophy of religion until now. 44:13 🔄 Differentiated and dependent members within a finite or infinite series of contingent existences indicate that the series itself must be contingent, necessitating a necessary existence to explain it. 45:14 🌌 When countering the claim that the universe or multiverse could be all that exists, one can argue that these are sets of contingencies, and the presence of contingent elements requires a necessary existence to explain them. 46:00 🧩 If someone claims the universe is contingent or all that exists, it implies dependence on something else, contradicting the idea of self-sufficiency. 48:14 🌌 Saying an infinite multiverse depends on itself grants it godly qualities, but it's impossible for a set of more than one thing to be independent. 49:27 🧩 Anything made up of parts is contingent, and an infinite multiverse made of parts would also be dependent. 50:51 💡 Ibn Sina's composition argument asserts that anything composed of parts is dependent, and if parts can be rearranged, it's contingent. 53:16 🌌 The argument counters determinism, explaining that in abstraction, something can be necessary while having generatable and destructible aspects. 54:53 🤔 Anything generatable and destructible, like the universe, is contingent, not necessary. 55:24 🤯 Existence that transitions from non-existence is generatable and destructible, indicating contingency. 57:23 🌌 The universe's existence can be approached ontologically (in the mind) or cosmologically (empirically), both leading to the conclusion of contingency. 59:03 🌌 Pantheists who claim the universe lacks parts should clarify their definition of "part" and its correspondence with established definitions. 01:03:11 🌌 Arguing that the universe isn't made up of parts contradicts meteorological understanding, where parts differentiate and compose wholes. 01:05:03 🤯 Ibn Sina's argument highlights that if two necessary beings are differentiated, one must know the existence of the other, implying contingency, not necessity. 01:08:14 🌌 Different types of sets (linear, circular, finite, infinite) present varying causal relationships, with linear sets having a clear primary cause. Circular causality (A causes B, B causes C, and C causes A) is impossible. 01:09:02 🧠 Avicenna argues against the possibility of circular causation, where something causes itself, deeming it logically impossible. 01:10:00 🔄 Avicenna distinguishes between finite sets, including linear (A causes B, B causes C) and circular (A causes B, B equals A, C causes A), showing the impossibility of circular causation. 01:10:26 🔄 Avicenna transitions to discussing infinite sets, asserting that an infinite regress of causes is impossible, which differentiates his view from Al-Ghazali. 01:11:36 🔄 Avicenna argues that even if you assume an infinite regress of contingent things, they would still be contingent because they are composed of different parts, making them contingent. 01:12:45 🌌 Avicenna's composition argument highlights the importance of composition in this discussion, stating that if something is composed of contingent parts, it remains contingent, even in an infinite regress scenario. 01:28:15 🤔 Avicenna addresses questions about the necessary will of God, explaining that God's choices are based on His perfect knowledge, making them necessary and not contradictory to His intrinsic attributes. 01:30:35 🪨 Avicenna refutes the notion of creating a rock so heavy that God can't lift it, highlighting that such questions involve impossible existences and are logically meaningless. 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[@TareqKhan0]

I don't think using Quran verses to invite non Muslims to Islam is circular reasoning. Many Quran verses tells the reader to ponder over the creation (alternation of days and night, design of camel) and think about the purpose of creation. No one needs to "believe in the Quran" in order to reflect on these verses as they are intriguing questions and not a matter of "blind faith". Thus, there is no circular reasoning here.

[@Mym794]

It is not as simple as that. If you ask a scientism believer to ponder, he will give you different possible theories to explain the existence of all these natural phenomena. You will need to build a solid valid argument to lead the discussion towards Islamic answer and philosophy will come in handy. I don't see how you can give dawa to people in a different field of study without first understanding their way of thinking and in the West, philosophy is very important.

[@somedonny8466]

I think hijab was saying you cannot say "proof of the Quran being true is because Quran says x".

[@Maryam-qh7ef]

I love this series sooo much! Please can we have more of this type of content?

[@kaseemakhtar2972]

Mohammed hijab and Ali dawah love watching both of you guys talks about Islam.

[@zaeemAtif]

Please do post time stamp in the description, it helps a lot for audience to get an overview of the video content. Jazak-Allah

[@shahid8545]

It's unexplainable how important these discussions are in this present time. BarackAllahu feek akhi.

[@theonepurpose3968]

this serie is amazing may Allah increase your deeds and work

[@bez5297]

It's terrible. He just regurgitates the same theist arguments that have been debunked for centuries.

[@khaledchatah3425]

@@bez5297 its actually the exact opposite 😂 There is no atheist (truthful ones) that has any close refutation of the arguments. When asking atheists about their belief they just stay silent because they believe in contradictions

[@khaledchatah3425]

@@bez5297 its actually the exact opposite 😂 There is no atheist (truthful ones) that has any close refutation of the arguments. When asking atheists about their belief they just stay silent because they believe in contradictions

[@bez5297]

@@khaledchatah3425 I mean you're completely wrong... What arguments do you want me to debunk? Go for it. There are no good arguments for god.

[@khaledchatah3425]

@@bez5297 debunk whatever u want choose and try lets see

[@Cece_Si]

May ALLAH SWT give you a long healthy life and Jannah Mohammed Hijab you are a precious GEM 💎of the ummah May ALLAH SWT bless you, your family and loved ones Jazkum Allah Khair

[@ihsanmertatalay968]

what makes one thing with perfect ease and order, and makes everything one thing skilfully with perfect balance and order, is a stamp particular to the Maker of everything and a seal special to the Creator of All Things.

[@kareemzreik7846]

I love you mohammed hijab i truly love you jazaka allahu khyra

[@iyadal-najjar3512]

اخونا بالله محمد، بتمنى تصير تصلي على النبي ببداية الدرس وتدعي للمستمعين والمسلمين.

[@shabbasi9159]

اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم.

[@nasirdiablo417]

This kid is amazing and the love I have for him is enormous. I still can't get over for missing the time he came to Toronto 😫

[@hibatuadam2777]

♥️💥

[@finishingislamophobessubsc8156]

I wish he comes to Pakistan 😒or i go to UK to meet him. I had already seen him about two times in my dreams. It was like he was educating me/advising me something academic with a huge smile on his face in the corridor of my former college.

[@Ali-jk3cu]

Best series on KZbin! May Allah bless you guys!

[@thelogic9069]

I believe that there is a God but i its not ala mohamad died and he still dead

[@Ali-jk3cu]

@@thelogic9069 allah isn’t a separate God that Muslims make up! It just means God in Arabic. It’s the same God that created everyone in this world and the universe!

[@thelogic9069]

@@Ali-jk3cu the koran was written 640 yrs after the Bible enough time to read and copy the Bible and put the name ala instead of Jesus

[@mirzabros3618]

@@Ali-jk3cu don't respond to dogs that bark.

[@MZD15]

​@@thelogic9069 Author Gospel, Towrah, Psalms and Quran are same God. Since Gospels are corrupted, God has sent final revelation Quran to Mankind and he said he will preserve them.

[@UrzDADDY]

Amazing discussion

[@asadashraf2128]

This should be a box set.

[@88Grimmjow]

This series needs more views.

[@tonyvila7141]

i have to say my man you are good spoke person for Islam very knowledgeable, Islam Needs you or i should say people in search of islam knowledge need you...

[@kunjinjaalamohammedaminhil1659]

Brother Hijab, How is your usage different from the Mutazilites and Abu Alshari. Am particularly interested because you have always tried to distinguish your usage from those 2 mentioned above?

[@islam12539]

May Allah bless you.

[@ismarzivojevic3585]

MashAllah, this is another level. Hijab is a man. ❤️

[@homtanks7259]

Jazakallahu khairan

[@asem_6466]

Amazing 🤩

[@thehauntedstream7206]

The kalam truly essentially means that there is something preceding the subject of discussion Except there must be that which is not preceded by anything A necessaryexistence

[@waste2163]

Bro is sipping the capri sun like he just came from a trip to the Sahara desert :D This is a joke. I love the brother :)

[@oayysz8909]

Regarding it being impossible for Allah to do something that is meaningful or goes against his attributes i heard a lecture in Arabic subhanallah that for every time Allah sais to the prophet if they want to do this then Allah will do this and mentions a specific action for e.g surah nisa 142 it states "the hypocrites try to fool you and Allah is fooling them and other verses that mention ", they plan and Allah plans" ,they are fighting you and Allah is fighting them etc, now this is consistent throughout the Qur'an except for 1 verse in surat anfal 71 Allah states "if they want to betray you then they tried to betray Allah in the past and he gave you Mohammed power over them. Notice why Allah didn't mention here "he betrayed them" the word in Arabic is khiyana unlike all other verses subhanallah because betrayal goes against Allah's attributes. Very clear how precise and suttle the Qur'an is

[@aali8874]

Wa'alaikum assalaam wa rehmatu'LLAHI wa barakatuh

[@asaadhusein5063]

masha'Allah amazing

[@Darkev77]

Is there a way to get access to the script of the poem, is it public?

[@m.ahachani8573]

jazakom ALLAHo khayran

[@karimdaghmash7853]

Wa alaykum asalam wa rahmatulahi wa barakatu

[@measif302]

Jajakallah brother 🥰

[@abousaalih8177]

43:00 I would like to add that the 'Burhaan Asiddiqien' has been used for apologetic purposes in Arabic. For example Adnan Ibrahim did a whole khutbah on it 5 years ago. Perhaps you are the first in English.

[@boygenius538_8]

I think that’s what he meant

[@KhalidNoorMohammed]

Allama Shibli wrote very highly about Ibn Taimiya's book referred here. Sheikh Akram Nadwi also

[@hafizquran9536]

Is it possible to state the reference page/volume of the statement, from the translation of Wael Hallaq, @8:45 minute of the tape?

[@alenizi07]

6:00 there is ikhtilaf on this, but the correct and rajih chosen position in the books of Ash'aris is ma3rifa of Allah not Nadhar (knowing his attributes and actions and what's permissible, impermissible, and necessary in His right)

[@user-cf9hk3us2r]

Unfortunately, this requires higher iq than i have😬 I couldn't understand the contingency part but it's ok😭

[@OriginalAndroidPhone]

Hijabs shirts are class

[@abdulrahmanabdulkadri4825]

Is there a book for the londoniyyah poems?

[@elmouddenhassan]

I can't find this peom anywhere brothers. I looked for it online, but couldn't find it. I really want to read it.

[@rycoolhead]

I think in the first episode he mentions that the poem was made specifically for this series

[@clearlyclearor]

Its made for the series specifically. Is not open source akhi

[@FaisalKhan-iw6tw]

Bro is there handouts for this class? Alhamdulillah for this lectures

[@rchaudhr]

Could you please explain who is this poem by ? Book ?

[@mohammedhanif6780]

@1:27:00 mark Summary of Hijab's claim: God's will never changes (ie can only choose the best) because it is in accordance with His perfect knowledge (of what happens in creation). But this leads to circularity as what happens in creation is chosen by God's will according to Athari creed. The will of God chooses, the creation follows in accord. Another problem, Hijab's account makes God's knowledge logically and metaphysically dependent upon. the actions of creatures. So are God's will and knowledge dependent in some way on creaturely actions, Muhammad Hijab?

[@easini99ii41]

People who negates philosophy has never studied it. It's the organic way of human knowledge. Thst's why it's called علم المشتركة - Common/shared ground of human knowledge.

[@hamzaboubtina361]

Can we get a copie of the Nazm .. جزاكم الله خيرا

[@asadashraf2128]

Our own consciousness has a beginning

[@aspiknf]

When did consciousness begin?

[@hunz100]

الله اكبر La Ilaha illa ALlah Mohamed rasool ALlah

[@freeman7983]

Masha ALLAH

[@imadhcareem]

Can someone provide available notes for this episode?

[@shahinshap7742]

Is pdf of the poem available? Can anyone share pls...

[@munirahmadqalam-mal5927]

Shining today Go forth lion.

[@SmileStash77]

This series is life-changing

[@midlander4]

Welcome to the middle ages 😂

[@easini99ii41]

Can someone provide full “Londoniyyah Poem”?

[@karimalramlawi7228]

Can you please send us some uk certified caprisons to the middle east? It looks tasty and refreshing while you are lecturing some deep arguments.

[@kabhussain3113]

Does anyone have the quotes from sheikh ibn tayymiyya pls?

[@finishingislamophobessubsc8156]

18:18 look at his Mobile 📱 gadget. This is عاجزی/Humbleness, I'd say.🥺Can Sapience Institute make it possible for me to have chat with Mohammed Hijab!😒. I was a normal person but the time I had started watching his Sapience series I'm like literally in love with Him 🥺.

[@yaeesh4real]

Asalaamu alaikum Where do we find the poem?

[@karimdaghmash7853]

Wa alaykum asalam

[@zakyzayn5361]

I want english translation of that text which is used in this lecture Plz help 👍

[@zaidsyed8501]

What about fundamental particles. If they do exist, would they qualify as necessary existences? Like string theory or whatever.

[@boygenius538_8]

No because they are multiple of them, you can add and subtract from them.

[@M_h_m_d123]

Aleyküm selam ve rahmetullahi ve berekhatuhu

[@user-hq1uf7ud1f]

You should respond to points of Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins!!!

[@ahmedsredy2429]

"والله لو رفع الحجاب ما ازددت يقينا" كما قال الإمام علي كرم الله وجهه.

[@mustaphaallie5215]

how can i get the poem?

[@eneskoksal6933]

A question to the presented Argument. A physicist might say that basically nothing in the universe is destructable, since even the most thourough destruction would only mean that you exchanged the matter into energy. Would you then argue that since the universe can be ordered in a different way or conceived in a different way it still cant be necesarry ?

[@arkin471]

Important question brother

[@boygenius538_8]

It changes forms though, that’s disqualifying

[@Ahle.haq0]

Laws of physics do not matter as even they themselves are rationally conceivable to be different

[@humanbeing7182]

Sense of humour of Mohammed... Thirty years ago when I didn't exist we call it dark ages 😂😂😂😂😂

[@muhammadabdulrahman6799]

He has a conflated ego. You need to be more humble. After all it is not about him.

[@mohammedrehman8103]

@@muhammadabdulrahman6799 behave, he is spreading Islam and teaching people. Stop hating

[@Yuki_fan1]

@@mohammedrehman8103 There is a way of spreading islam. Taking your shirt out and screaming nasty words isn't one of them. I agree, more humbleness.

[@newmin8705]

@House Of Judah I bear witness that noone/nothing is worthy of worship except Allah, and that Muhammed is His servant and messenger (Ash-hadu anna la ilaha illa Allah, wa ash-hadu anna Muhammad abduhu wa rassuluh).

[@newmin8705]

@@Yuki_fan1 When did he take his shirt out and screamed?

[@mm-uo1ij]

where can I get those glasses.

[@sanwar2410]

8:09 before the naturalistic fallacy, what is the name of fallacy does brother Hijab mentioned here?

[@sanwar2410]

@@ponderingspirit JazakAllahu khair

[@acebearr1646]

where are the other parts, 1, 2, 3, etc?

[@kaz4845]

I got that shirt as well. Though I don't have hijabs brains

[@linkup901ify]

The thing is there are rational arguments in the Quran and those are the ones you want to make sure you use, rephrasing and expanding upon them while using others in addition, especially after they do the "ok then what do you believe" or they make the whataboutism move of saying the Quran/Islam has that problem/issue too. How about if I say it like this, the Quran is the fastest way to both deconstruct and bring them to Islam because it's the Quran that is deconstructing their belief. For example, "did they create themselves?" It questions the reader by putting their own mind against false beliefs, then one can realize that it's their creator that would know their mind/intellect and know the effects of posing such a statement, boom, decontruction and dawah all in one. Agree? Makes sense? One last point and one that perhaps Mohammed Hijab would agree with. Philosophy is mostly an English/Greek eurocentric enterprise and as such it has their markings on it so one should be very careful in/of that. Of course at the end of the day it's human logic that is doing the actual deconstruction so I get that.

[@uzairwaheed330]

Philosophy isn’t a Greek, English or Arab enterprise. It is a human enterprise.

[@kaleemazad5475]

Hi. I would like to know why or how the PSR (principle sufficient Reason ) is true. Why do contingent existence need and explanation. This is the only part of the argument I Don't understand.

[@seeker9837]

I think Islam is very beneficial religion especially for men ,I mean women also get benifits but As we all know Allah swt has favoured men over women ...walahi it is only way to get best of pleasures in heaven

[@sinno2861]

I was greatly inspired by this argument but unfortunately there are some questions which cannot be answered through it and I've seen MH fail to answer some of those questions as well.

[@sinno2861]

@@Moath1277 thank you brother!

[@sinno2861]

@@Moath1277 sure~

[@user-kj6jl9el1j]

The only real objection is modal collapse

[@muhaarem]

​@@user-kj6jl9el1jhow so?

[@booboo3560]

Salaam. I’m confused about the statement “if this set of contingent things happened to contain a necessary thing, the necessary thing would explain the existence of all of the contingent things.” Not because of the set violation, I get he’s arguing ad absurdum. Fine. My confusion is with why the necessary thing has explanatory power just by virtue of it being necessary. e.g. in a set of chairs, if there was somehow also the number 4 in that set, the number 4 (a necessary thing) would explain the existence of the chairs (contingent things)? How? The number 4 has no explanatory power over the chairs’ existence.

[@islamicmessage2419]

You are thinking of Necessary existence as a concept but what is proven is necessary existence as a concrete reality claiming otherwise would mean that dependent things exist without needing anything other then themselves to exist which is impossible therefore what grounds every dependent thing in a causal way is a concrete necessary existence not an abstract concept. I

[@TheUnternehmer]

20:00 Maybe Ibn Sina had the opinion of muʿtazila and early hanafis on this matter

[@dawudqadri7295]

Can anyone explain to me why a thing is dependent if it has parts, not based on generation / degeneration of parts, and not based on the parts maybe having accidents?

[@nbarr318]

If a thing has parts, it is dependent upon its parts. Therefore, the thing is dependent.

[@dawudqadri7295]

@@nbarr318 Thank you so much for replying, and forgive my mental slowness, but why does it depend on those parts? I.e. what is the nature of that dependence? What refutes the counter position of "no it's not dependent on it's parts"? Lool forward to your reply so I can have a solid understanding :)

[@nbarr318]

@@dawudqadri7295 A whole is dependent upon its parts, because if no parts, then no whole. For example, the universe is made of parts. If these parts suddenly cease to exist, the universe ceases to exist. Therefore, the universe is dependent.

[@dawudqadri7295]

@@nbarr318 OK, I understands a pizza cut into 8 slices, if you remove all 8 slices the pizza loses it's entire existence. What I can't get past is that if you remove 1-7 slices, the pizza still exists, albeit in a diminished form. Likewise, my body has parts, such as my limbs. If (God forbid) I lose an arm, I still have a physical / material existence. Therefore my existence as a person does not depend on the existence of each of my parts, you can remove some of them without removing me. If you remove some galaxies, the universe still has possible existance. This is what I'm trying to understand regarding dependence on parts. Thank you for being patient with me.

[@nbarr318]

@@dawudqadri7295 No problem Inshallah. There are two ways of looking at it: 1. The universe is dependent upon of its parts together, not any individual parts in particular. E.g even if the pizza does not rely on slice 8, or slice 1, or slice 5, it relies on all of those slices together, because when you remove all of them, there is no pizza. 2. "If you remove some galaxies, the universe still exists" Actually, not necessarily. Depends how you define 'sameness'. From a purely physical perspective, if there is any difference whatsoever between A and B, then they are not the same thing. E.g if our Universe 'A' has 100 galaxies, and potential Universe 'B' has 101 galaxies, then A and B are not the same universe. In that sense, the existence of the universe depends upon the existence of every single individual part as well. If the colour of your eyes were different, it would be a different universe. This is consistent with how atheists understand the infinite multiverse. You are correct that even if you lose a leg, you are still the same person. However, that is because you are not only physical. You are physical + spiritual. You are the same person with and without a leg because in both cases you have the same unchanging soul.

[@salvadormaciaspulido641]

it is in deed hard to believe in anyting during this days, between conflicts of all kinds, enemies at every level in everyplace. justa about any organitation has gone berserk. Whats next.

[@umarr6221]

Who wrote this Londoniyyah poem?

[@strictlyyoutube6881]

I want to know as well

[@RidwanAlQudbi]

شيخ علي القديمي

[@strictlyyoutube6881]

@@RidwanAlQudbi Who is he, can you give us a quick synopsis about him?

[@misssoso5859]

I highly disagree that we can't use the Quran to debate people who don't believe in the Outan. The Quran constantly uses rational arguments that any rational person can comprehend and submit to. Saying that these Quranic arguments are lacking and we need philosophy instead is deeply problematic. Philosophy is not revelation. It's not objectively true. No prophet used philosophical arguments instead of divine wisdom. We can use philosophy to enhance the Quranic arguments‚ not to replace them.

[@theoathman8188]

The Quranic argument is definitely enough to convince the rational reasonable people. However, there're people who argue for the sake of arguing. They're not looking for the truth, they're look for winning the argument. Philosophy is needed here to demolish everything they throw at you. Also, there're people who side and cheer whomever appears to be winning this back and forth , so It's important for the Muslims to be equipped to deal with people like that. "And certainly We have explained in this Quran every kind of example, and man is most of all given to contention" Quran 18:54

[@misssoso5859]

@@theoathman8188 I'd argue that if someone can't be convinced by the wisdom of revelation, then no man-made philosophy can make him reconsider. I'm not against using philosophy, I'm just against seeing it as an alternative to Quranic wisdom. Philosophy should be used as a last option, never the starting point. And it should be used as a way to enhance and highlight the Quranic rational arguments (and we should never use philosophical arguments that have no basis in the wisdom of revelation). That's how all the prophets and all their companions preached to people. And none of us can be better at D'awah than them.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@theoathman8188 Would you mind presenting this argument?

[@bez5297]

Like the part that talks about speaking to ants.

[@misssoso5859]

@@bez5297 lol you believe fish magically managed to live out of water and changed species. So shut it 🤣

[@measif302]

Allah is reality..if you reject Allah then basically you have to reject the reality

[@mkdon101]

Which Muslims believe in wahdatul wujood?

[@munirahmadqalam-mal5927]

If something is regeneratable or destructed, then by necessity it is contingent. 56:28 is a laugh time.

[@Cece_Si]

Honestly speaking tho I wish there was a version of this for dummies

[@midlander4]

It's by dummies

[@Salafiyahisthehaqq]

Sheikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) said: ”Philosophical logic is like the flesh of a camel at the top of a mountain. It is not easy to climb the mountain, nor is the flesh good enough to justify climbing, nor is the path leading to it easy to follow.’’ He (rahimahullaah) also said: ”There are no philosophers upon right guidance” He (rahimahullaah) also said: ‘’Islaam does not have philosophers’’[1] [1]Source: Naseehat Ahl Eemaan Fee Radd alaa Mantiq al Yunaan. (page:157)

[@somedonny8466]

Define to us what he meant by philosopher? Did he think ghazali was a philosopher for example? Are you the insinuating he believed ghazali was not upon right guidance.

[@Salafiyahisthehaqq]

@@somedonny8466 Ghazali was a major innovator, that is known! However he repented before he died. May Allah have mercy upon him.

[@somedonny8466]

@@Salafiyahisthehaqq ok but why is ibn taymiyyah greatly complimenting this major innovator? Why is ibn taymiyyah supporting him

[@somedonny8466]

@@Salafiyahisthehaqq also when hijab quotes ibn taymiyyah in this video. Is ibn taymiyyah now contradicting himself?

[@mohammedhanif6780]

@1:28:00 The actual position is that God's power can actualise a lie ie God had power over producing a lie because a lie is not, and God's power applying to a lie, is not a logical contradiction IN ITSELF. But God actually lying is logical impossibility BY VIRTUE OF OTHER ATTRIBUTES of God, God lying is actually impossible by virtue of other considerations. Mumkinun bi nafsihi, mustaheel fi'lan li ghayrihi.

[@aron9128]

What's the argument for that Hanif? The position *God will not lie*? Is it because of God's moral perfection or wisdom?

[@freeyourmind7538]

is it fair to say that Ibn Sina/ Avicenna was not a muslim? The way M.Hijab described him around 19:00, just makes it seem like Ibn Sina was a cultural muslim but lavished in the TOTAL opposite of the Islamic teaching without any remorse. So why do we say he was a muslim scholar? (have heard from quite a few mouths)

[@fbng]

I wouldn't say it's fair to make such an accusation. Yes, he may have participated in impious activities, but this was only documented for a part of his life, we're unaware for the most part. Anyway, Ibn Sina had memorised the Qur'an by age 10, produced the contingency argument and was never documented to ever struggle with his faith. He was even critical to people like Al-Razi on his methods. End of the day, only Allah knows what is in his heart. But from a superficial standpoint, he seemed to be devout for most of his life.

[@Anix68]

Are you saying therefore that our existence is necessary because everything Allah does is necessary ?

[@udoyshahriar5784]

❤

[@ua7234]

If you've proven God exists then do you disregard the verse of the quran about "belief in the unseen" as redundant? I mean if god is proven there's no need for faith right?

[@Wedowhatwedo123]

Well we have proven god theoretically and we have not seen even our prophet s.a.w so how is our believe in ghaib in question. Didn't abu sideeq believe in mehraj why did he question about the details of masjd e aqsa

[@TareqKhan0]

Premise 1: Something that is made of parts and if the parts can be rearranged, then it is contingent. Premise 2: Necessary things can't be rearranged. What if someone doesn't accept these premises? How do you rationalize those premises? Allah mentioned about his parts (face, hand, feet) in the Quran/Sunnah and He is an necessary existence. Explain please.

[@mohamudahmed6554]

We don't say Allah's parts can be rearranged or that they are in any way shape or from similar to ours. But, i still dislike this argument even though it is solid, but it poses such issues in people and Allah and His Messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam gave us enough arguments. What you asked is a serious source of doubts thus it is not good to use this argument.

[@saminhossain4357]

I think by parts he meant it can be broken down further maybe? Like how a planet can be broken to rocks and rocks to grains of sand etc?

[@matishakabdullah5874]

Scientifically universal matter is energy.

[@HammadKhan-wu3cx]

Well Allah mention about his parts , feet??? please quote quran verses you are mention(just quran verses that support your argument not hadiths ) because may be your are reading a metaphor ( i.e ALLAH IS SITTING ON THRONE) THIS IS METAPHOR people take this literally ,rather what is does imply that Allah is sitting on throne , who does sit on throne ? (king , ruler for your understanding ) who is king who is superior than everybody who rules and governs everything .Hence Allah does everything that take place in this whole universe and beyond that.

[@M7md-3la2]

allah isnt made of parts and scholars dont say they are parts that make up allah hope you get it

[@Abdullah_hakim]

that old man was lars gule (pronounced 'lars guula' i guess)