Lonely Every Time - CAPI Gear - 8 Pass Preamp Comparison

[@TaunusRecords]

Amazing how this girl can phrase this song eight times in exact the same way, so that people can hear the difference in preamps. (lol)

[@Frank00064]

Agree, miss Robertson did a great job in this video.

[@ColtCapperrune]

We probably did 20 takes of the song to get 8 passes. But yes she was ultra consistent, definitely more so than me lol

[@DMKahn]

Love me some CAPI! My favorite on her voice was the 312 platinum.

[@garygustin1717]

Charli’s vocals sound classic and timeless. I love how she does not ruin it with the current “flavor of the day, boil in a bag” modern vocal style.

[@Tonetwisters]

I love that light vibrato. What a sweet, dead-on key perfect voice. And she's from near my neck of the woods (Jacksonville, FL).

[@augustleo7434]

312 Platinum sounded the best to my ears - warmth and clarity.

[@zoardfricska1233]

It is beatiful, can't find words. Amazing job!!

[@onetinyspeaker]

The VP28 Platinum, 312 Platinum & Heider FD312 are remarkable

[@Tonetwisters]

Yes. My biggest vote is for the Heider ...

[@RobYoung]

VP28s made her voice beautiful. Much more dynamic in my opinion.

[@jeffreyanthony6628]

VP 28's win for me on this test. Would love to see the same test on drums!

[@ColtCapperrune]

I have a video going live in the morning that we did with drums, bass and electric guitars!

[@robertopistolesi2735]

@@ColtCapperrune where can we listen drums through it? Thanks!

[@Tonetwisters]

VP-26 feels like it has more presence in the 1k range ... which I like. The VP312s is a bit warmer than the others to that point. The Heider FD312s is the sweetest so far, IMHO.

[@bigfanproductionz]

Great voice!!! Great Comparison!! I'll take that 312 plat, then the 28!!!! Ear Joy!!!!!!!

[@fernandogonzalez8956]

VP26 is my fav. It has such an amazing detail that is transparent and BIG. I think VP312-Platinums come in second, has more low end with some light compression. Some of the others just had too much sheen on them. Too much sparkly unicorn in the upper mids.

[@PHELCAN]

The 312 knocked it out of the park for me, the VP26's sounded more modern and clear but were missing a certain "weight" and "down to earth" tone that I felt the 312 had. The platinums added noticeable sheen as well

[@seanrosedotcom]

I have 3 CAPI pres I have built and really love. But in Nashville a couple weeks ago, I got to do the on hands comparison of the kits vs. the Platinum line. They all are amazing and exceptional value for the money, but the Platinum versions were better. Not only are they pre-built, the designs have been refined and elevated. You can hear the difference, but I don't think you go wrong with either.

[@Tonetwisters]

Are we talking for real electronic pieces of outboard gear or some programmed digit system? Thanks.

[@partslig123]

This beauty made this mike stand out for sure.

[@rjb5191]

FD312 for the win. Clarity, punch, warmth, and compact and mix ready.

[@Whiskey_Friday]

Amazing. I need me some 312s for sure!!

[@shoepedals]

I preferred the VP312 Platinum, here. It was well balanced and also felt very flattering. the VP28 felt a bit stuffy to me on her voice. That one stood out to me as not a good match.

[@LightWthoutTheStatic]

As far as the preamps go, I think I liked the VP28's response the best. It had a clean fullness and small amount of grit without being overly bright or presence biased in a particular area, at least with her voice.

[@entity9588]

Love the top end smoothness of the Heider. They sounded the best to me.

[@nathanallen9291]

Seemed like them Heider's and the Platinum VP28's take the care. My ears can hear money....

[@ColtCapperrune]

Those are my picks as well, even in the session on that day.

[@basseyacousticworks]

Cool

[@snippletrap]

Lovely singer.

[@zip7806]

Great job on the new Platinum Op-amps

[@dannyjonze]

Beautiful stuff. Any of the platinums were great

[@rickyrodam]

VP312-Platinums for me. All great, but they just work perfect with her voice.

[@greeksdorok]

The head tilt to the side on certain words and at times the start or ending of said word sounds great. Idk if its intentional... looks like it is.

[@rrrafiel]

It's for dynamic control. Much easier than bending or stepping back, as many singers do.

[@joshuahelton5323]

312 Platinum for me. ❤

[@ProducerStefanSchnabel]

Colt Capperune on Guitar?

[@rudolfwormstall1196]

I'm a bit astonished about the frequency balance of the acoustic guitar. How come these microphones reproduced this instrument with so little body and bass? The strings had a tinny timbre to it, since the high mids were not supported by solid fundamentals. This creates sort of a narrow-band listening experience. Weak lows and peaky mids.

[@rrrafiel]

Mic technique is clearly at fault here. Either that or they decided to make the guitar stand back, but I think that's a mistake.

[@mirkomarkovic3438]

Phase button

[@uncledaddy7338]

Those 312s though

[@danielmiller5521]

As absolutely gorgeous as these recordings are, it is so hard to judge these preamps based on this. 8 different takes when the differences between these preamps is already so minuscule makes it super hard to compare. I would love it if you guys demonstrated all of these on the 2-bus OR with reamped stuff. I want to hear how everything saturates when really pushed too! If anyone wants to dig further into some shootouts with CAPI gear I did a blind shootout here between a VP26 and a some Audient pres (level matched): www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/1143635-capi-vp26-audient-asp880-b.html And I did a test with saturation here between the VP26 and LOLA (not level matched, just examining tones when pushed): www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/1286812-driving-preamp-audio-examples-capi-vp-26-hairball-lola.html

[@Jonny._.]

Great A/B test you did with the Audient pres and Capi, i have Audient pres and Bae 1073, i think i might have to add a VP26 with Red dots, brighter guitars dont gel that well with the Audient for my taste. I really liked how the VP26 sounded on your strummed Acoustic guitar. May i ask what Acoustic guitar you used in the test ? I have some great sounding guitars for finger picking but im still not satisfied with what i got for strumming Thanks :)

[@danielmiller5521]

@@Jonny._. Strumming is really hard to track, it can easily sound harsh. The guitar here is a D18, but I sold it, didn’t love the sound. Had a $100 Yamaha sitting around for a year with silk and steel and tuned it down a step, best sound for me. Super mellow. Tracking with compression is key though and with fast attack times to shave off the transients that are usually offensive. The 26s are great on acoustic, but it’s not until adding compression after the pre that you really hear the zip of a transformer pre. Sometimes that doesn’t make the 26 the right fit and a cleaner pre is called for. Do you track with compression?

[@Jonny._.]

@@danielmiller5521 I ended up selling my D-18 too, it was a bit boomy and not very balanced and that made it hard to record it well for me. Now i have two well balanced beautiful sounding guitars wich works great for finger picking and finger strumming on one of them(with short nails), but i have still not found a guitar that strums well enough with a plectrum for me to be impressed. I think i might take look at the Yamaha FS30, it sounds pretty darn good from what im been able to hear from KZbin clips from different reviewers. Thank you for your answers :)

[@cosmicknocks594]

312 heider all day for me! Vp28 platinum close 2nd

[@kevinmorin7965]

Probably everyone but me, knows why different microphones are used (and there's plenty of them here!) and not to deter from Miss Charli's great vocals... is there any place to learn what's up? I see different mic.s in different videos and have no idea why or what's up? I would read if I had links- but surely don't get the types, ranges, applications very well - and this video deepens the confusion! Sure sounds nice though,

[@strazza555]

Kevin Morin people do this to either mix them together or, more often, pick their fav during mixing. Sometimes use one on vrs another on chorus. The big green one is an ELA M 251, very very expensive large diaphragm mic, the black one is a dynamic mic, $400 Shure Sm7b, they both have very different sounds so can be beneficial during a recording to capture two vibes so you have options later. Hope that helps

[@clementyeboah4042]

@@strazza555 It's called ''Mid-Side'' M/S technics. Capturing the ''Mid and the Side'' with very different two microphones sound, so can be beneficial during the mix if you desire to widen the vocals by pushing the ''Side fader above the Mid''. The 1960's and the '70's were master of this technics. Thanks

[@jeanyvestheriault8362]

@@clementyeboah4042 Sorry but this is not a M/S setup, the ELA seem to not be in the position for the figure 8 pattern to be activated. It is only unidirectional in my view it was only two different mic setup to pick and choose on the mix, perhaps combined tho!

[@danafiorucci83]

So if I had to pick one for the guitar and vocals is would be the VP312 Platinum. For her voice though the choice would be between the VP26 Platinum or the Heider FD312s Great voice it would be hard to screw it up with any of these preamps.

[@ZeroCool_Numbers]

The 28plats sounded best to me during most of her vocals, but they got hit a hair too hard on a couple of her louder notes imo. Maybe even just 1 step down on the gain would be *chefs kiss*

[@Bcwilderness]

quality video guys thnkyou

[@Bcwilderness]

the mids on the heiders and mic combo wow

[@mparkmixingmastering8511]

Anyone know which OP amps are in the VP312’s for this test?

[@garygustin1717]

I think red dots were used in all of them

[@zip7806]

Her voice needs a Ribbon mic.

[@milkpossumsound8935]

VP28 Platinums sounded the best on vocals. Heider was nice on guitar but was a little too hefty for the voice and seemed to bring out the plosives a bit.

[@dafxtone]

Thanks for the post. I really find the sound of the guitar weak (but it's not the preamp), so i won't make any jugement on it. On vocal, VP26 is a clear winner for me, 25 is a bit flat for that, and still not liking the adds of extrat circuit in the VP28.

[@oskjan1]

Agree on everything you said.

[@catarinomedina9557]

singer has a great voice and the 251 is my favorite ...not a fan of the capi stuff.......never was and will not be

[@andrewgoldringmusic]

@Chris Bjornn Mixing would recommend ignoring this guy and getting some cause they're incredible! I've got a VP25, 2 vp26's and just added a VP312 DI. Hope you're doin well Chris :)