How To Fix A Muddy Mix : Mid Side EQ Mixing Techniques

[@LonelyRocker]

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[@mmbproducer5969]

Watching this make me sub 😊

[@LonelyRocker]

@@mmbproducer5969 awesome. Thank you!

[@nathanschneider7873]

This is by far one of the most useful things I've learned so far from countless mixing videos. I feel like I should owe you money for this.

[@LonelyRocker]

Wow, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. A like, Sub and maybe a share would be payment enough. 😀

[@dreamboydiaries]

LITERALLY

[@3AMREVIEWS]

Bit by bit my mixes are getting clearer. This mid side stuff is a game changer.

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome!! Keep it going!!

[@ollenhopkins5480]

Why can’t everyone make their explanations regarding audio this simple. Awesomeness!!!

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad you found this helpful! Thank you!

[@tonytemple8195]

@@LonelyRocker How did you get the analyser to read mid and side on one track? 🤔

[@xiphiasmusic]

After many producers failed to explain the concept to me, and like half a year later, I finally found this video... Than You so much for breaking it down so simply, you explained it really well, and my songs are much better now! I subscribed, please continue making amazing stuff like this!

[@LonelyRocker]

Wow. I’m so happy it helped you. Glad to have you here!!!

[@skysavvydrone]

I don’t know why it took me so long to get the apple to fall out of the tree and smack me on the head, but your video is the one that did it. My mixes have gone completely through the roof based on these concepts. thank you so very much!

[@LonelyRocker]

So cool to hear you're making great progress! Glad I could help!

[@mtanaysarkar2]

Best Mid-Side EQ Tutorial on KZbin.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you so much for your kind words!!

[@pachirisugirl7204]

Holy smokes dude, this is probably the most helpful video on mid/side EQ I’ve watched on KZbin, ever. You are incredible at explaining this, everyone else just explains things so unclearly

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad you liked it!

[@TheMaximus]

Six years into mixing and listening to lectures on Mid-Side EQ, this is by far the best video for anybody to understand it properly. Cheers! Keep making these awesome tutorials, love from India!

[@LonelyRocker]

Wow, thanks! Much appreciated! Glad it helped you. Cheers from Canada!

[@jerryfick8547]

The GOAT of mid side mixing tutorials.

[@LonelyRocker]

Ha! Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed this....

[@shejug7940]

One of the best videos on Mid Side EQ Mixing. You have made it so simple that anybody can understand it. Thanks a lot for the effort.

[@LonelyRocker]

You're very welcome! So glad it was helpful. Thank you!

[@lessthanpinochet]

Using Voxengo SPAN was the missing piece in understanding mid/side eq. Thank you so much for that.

[@LonelyRocker]

My pleasure! You will use that plugin more than any other guaranteed!

[@SonicDephect]

U explain this better than anyone on KZbin, thank you!

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you so much! Glad it helped!!

[@DanLaDue]

I had no fuckin clue what it was before this. One if the best mixing videos I’ve watched on this platform hands down

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!! So glad this video sorted it out for you! Really appreciate your thoughts. Cheers!!!

[@DigitalAura]

Hey everyone, I've just spent over an hour on KZbin trying to learn about Mid/Side Processing, and most of the other videos end up confusing you more than clarifying anything. This guy is so easy to understand and he does such a tremendous job of explaining things. I just had that A-HA! moment - the light just turned on for me after watching this. Thanks for a great walk-thru of this procedure.

[@LonelyRocker]

So glad this helped you! And thanks for sharing your thoughts. Cheers!

[@QTDAN-d9m]

finally a tutorial telling us why rather than showing off their fancy templates

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad it helped!

[@Kambiz.Mahdavi]

After 10 years mixing and Mastering , why I hadn't thought about this most important part of eqing? Really tnx

[@Kambiz.Mahdavi]

So then I always forced to eq side of my mix so hard

[@LonelyRocker]

Happy to help! Was a big aha moment for me when I figured it out. Happy to share....

[@Kambiz.Mahdavi]

@@LonelyRocker tnx again, yes I will share it

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome. Thank you so much!

[@I_Am_McZee]

This is a very very very good tutorial and explanation. I regret the countless hours i spent watching other KZbin Videos sending me down and endless rabbit hole of mixing hell.

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad you finally found this one! 😎🤘🏽🎸

[@craggsta1004]

I was really struggling to understand why I couldn't get the mud out of parts of my mix or what mid/side eq actually did but now after watching this I understand so thank you for this video 👍

[@LonelyRocker]

Great to hear! Happy I could help. Cheers!

[@ufomusik2132]

I think this the most important video on youtube for home studios this is essential knowledge

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!

[@yosoyelsupremo]

After watching lots of confusing and unclear videos and tutorials of the mid-side EQ'ing, finally now I understand the mid-side mixing tecnique...🥲🥲 Thanks!!

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad this helped! Cheers!

[@jobimboy]

No one actually is teaching about this technique. Scoop the frequency in the centre mix. After I’ve learn this technique, it was like a breath of fresh for me. I like using midside on the bus channel. It works as well. You’re awesome man.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks! Glad this helped!!

[@bobloomis246]

Dang. I wasted an hour watching 10 other useless videos of people droning on and on about or around he topic. Wish I'd watched YOURS FIRST! Thanks! Top shelf man!

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!! Glad you found me eventually!! :)

[@Az3r0]

I have watched thousands of videos, but after years I can only now really understand what should be done to have a less muddy track. Thank you very much for the tutorial and for the accuracy in explaining the topic.

[@LonelyRocker]

Wonderful! Glad this helped you! Cheers!!!

[@denishdahariya]

pretty sure I've seen 33 mid side tutorials at this point and all they did was just confused me more. wish i had found this video sooner could've literally saved a lot of time and a lot of my rushed mixes dammmmm this was god send

[@LonelyRocker]

So glad you found this video and it helped you. Thanks for your positive thoughts. Cheers!

[@franbert6218]

The name Lonely Rocker is a little misleading. I almost didn’t click on your video. And I am a big Rush fan. OMG am I happy I clicked. I’ve been struggling with this mid/side concept for a while and I just had that aha moment. You’re a natural teacher. Thanks a million.

[@LonelyRocker]

Now you understand!! thanks for your kind words!!

[@unphazd5137]

I don't produced rock music but my god do I do you, this is amazing!

[@LonelyRocker]

Good mixing is universal! Thank you! 😎😎😎

[@MarkDLion]

This should be on one of those lists "10 secrets the pros don't tell you". This clearly shows the reasoning behind the tips " cut the sides of the low frequencies" and "check the mix in mono" which are oversimplifications. In reality, you just have to mix the sides and the mid independently cause you can cut a mid trying to remove a resonance caused by the sides and vice-versa. Especially if you use headphones, sides that sound very open can clog everything when they merge in the same space.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!! Really thrilled you found this helpful. Seems it has become one of my more popular videos. Really happy many are finding it useful. Thank you!

[@RainCityMusic07]

Best mid side video ive seen. I love span too

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!

[@rolfklaer2671]

For the first time I understand what this MID-SIDE-EQ-thing is all about. It took me ages so far to correct my mixes by trial and error and listening on several devises. Now I will have a better way to deal with the issues occuring. Thank you very, very much!

[@LonelyRocker]

That’s awesome. So glad this helped you. And my pleasure!

[@glacierrays]

This was great, I feel like I finally understand what everyone means when they talk about mid-side eq. Gonna get a spectrum analyser for this asap

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@brianpylant4617]

If you load the Channel EQ as Dual Mono rather than Stereo, you can process mid and side using one instance of the plugin. (This applies to all stereo plugins in Logic, not just Channel EQ.) Insert the plugin as Dual Mono and open it. To the right of the L and R buttons is a settings button. Click it, and then you get the option to change the plugin mode from L-R to M-S and the buttons change accordingly. Now you have M and S buttons at the top of the plugin window.

[@LonelyRocker]

Yes...I missed that for this video but discovered that since. I find that a bit cumbersome though....

[@sylvanbowyer341]

Best mid side video on the internet

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!

[@SoniCheng]

The best Mid side EQ explanation with the Graphic, and best tutorial!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you so much! Glad it helped!

[@BurningBushPedagogy]

You explain better than Streaky and many top pros, OMG where have been all these years? Thanks for even creating a KZbin chanel and teach so crystal clearly. wow. Thank you, its funny no one told us that what you pan in the center doesnt stay in center go goes to the sides too. when mono start being a little stereo shows that everything is screwed in the information we about many thing in the world by people and schools and wont say the full truth. You are amazing. one could watch a thousand videos about midside and might understand fully till this video. Because no one is saying mono signals are not pure mono. And I think its like even what is mono is also in both left and right speaker. and you can choose to eq it so that that eq effect is only heard in the center or around the left right. The lingo is what most things complex, they use terms to sound fun while might be giving a wrong picture.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you so much!! I honoured to have my name near Streaky. He truly is a mastering expert. But maybe I just found a way to explain M/S more clear. Hope it helps your mixes!!

[@themorphingorb]

You got a fan xD lol. Great video man! Thanks for 'clearing' up the mud;)

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!! So glad this helped you.

[@perttu-mattitarvainen1090]

You sir, make it so easy to understand and easy to learn. What a pedagogue. And as a non fluent english speaker, your articulation is very easy to understand. A big thumb!

[@LonelyRocker]

Wow...thank you so much for your kind words. I'm glad you find my videos helpful! Happy to be here for you!

[@ThomasEdwardsOfficial]

Mate i can confirm this is the best video on youtube for artists composers and content creators. Thank you 💪💪💪💪

[@LonelyRocker]

Wow, thank you! I blush! So glad you found it helpful. Cheers!

[@markthomas7263]

Thank you so much for not only making this amazing informative video but for also for making in plain and easy to understand and apply. This is a gem in any producer's tool box! Namaste!

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you so much! I’m so glad you found it that helpful! Cheers to you!

[@Ohitsdee250]

You’re a great teacher! Thank you for this!

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much! And my pleasure. 😎🤘🏽🎸

[@DouglasWidick]

definitely the best mid side explaniner on youtube, thank you so much!

[@LonelyRocker]

You're very welcome! Thanks so much!

[@CosminPerisan]

Sir, you are amazing! Much love to you❤

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad you enjoyed it! 😎🎸🤘🏽

[@skanda.skanda]

Thank you for reminding me about the need for a spectrum analyser.

[@LonelyRocker]

My pleasure!

[@djpowerhauspaul]

about time someone explained this technique that even I understand lol missed this video only by a year thanks Lonely Rocker Salute😄☮

[@LonelyRocker]

Ha! Better late than never!! Glad you found it helpful :)

[@daved1283]

Just about the best Mid Side EQ video I've seen, well done.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@knotid]

I'm going to tell you: HOW IN THE NAME OF GOD I DIDN'T SAW YOUR CHANNEL BEFORE???? This is priceless. I do knew M/S before but not with a spectrum analyzer in conjunction . Thanks a lot. You're a master!!!!!!

[@LonelyRocker]

I often ask why many people haven't found me. Haha. So glad you found this helpful!! And my pleasure!

[@phoenixflyz_]

More people should watch this

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you. Tell your friends! 😂😂

[@ApeStep]

Hi, Great tutorial, I have a question, i understand how to clear out the mid from the side and why it's useful but do you mean you should do that for every sound ?? Side information is useful and desired especially if you want stereo information in the top or your mixes ?? Maybe i'm just not understanding this properly which is highly likely. Thanks for the video and hopefully a reply. EDIT: Ok 2 minutes later into the vid you answered that question above, Sorry for not watching until the end before asking.

[@LonelyRocker]

I was going to say! Glad you pushed through and found it 😎🎸🤟🏼

[@SYLPHone]

Thank you for such an easy to follow explanation of how to utilize this function.

[@LonelyRocker]

My pleasure!

[@nabeshin7741]

Incredibly instructive video here, thanks a bunch, sir ! 👍 I've never really thought mid-side EQ could be that crucial, for me, it was just a mastering tool, I didn't really get the actual point of it during the mix process, until now. Mid-side EQ is definitely a game changer and so is this insightful video. 👌

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much! So glad you found this helpful. Cheers!

[@serkandemirhanofficial]

I've watched a dozen of mid/side eq videos. I understood them blindly. But this one, this one opened my eyes and see things more clearly. Thank you so much. Subscribed.

[@LonelyRocker]

Wow. Glad it was helpful! Thank you. And happy to have you here!

[@razvytalofficial8601]

Very educational...this changes my mindset totally..thank you sir

[@LonelyRocker]

My pleasure!

[@willievaughn6474]

I love it, award winning intro too🏆

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much! Actually I have refreshed my channel a bit since this video. And built a new studio. Curious what you think of my newest intro 😎

[@dreloo1084]

Thank you Thank you THANK YOU!!! Now I know what my problem was! Appreciate the information! Very plain!!

[@LonelyRocker]

My pleasure! Glad it helped!

[@DiMK_46]

That was Godlike! I have seen so many videos and this cleared the field totally. Thank you so much! I just subscribed!

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome, thank you! So glad this helped you.

[@karadytube]

Best explanation ever, thak you that you with us in the same earth 😊

[@LonelyRocker]

Wow, thank you! And my pleasure :)))))

[@miltonedwards123]

Appreciate your explanation, calm, soothing, and eloquent voice, thanks and God bless u!

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you kindly!

[@autotransport5568]

This is an excellent tutorial! I haven't heard or seen mid/side eq described this way before and it really helped me define the process much much better. Thanks! Subscribed!

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome! So glad this helped you. Thanks for joining the ride here!

[@ceoleleyi]

I agree with you

[@modernmabuse]

This is golden information for muddy mixes 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad it was helpful! Cheers!!!

[@defmike617]

Thanks for this video bro. Night and day mixes now. Appreciate you.

[@LonelyRocker]

My pleasure! Glad it helped!!

[@sukhi.rockstar]

WOW after so long i came across this amazing video thankyou so much ....SUBSCRIBED 😄😄

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome! And thank YOU. So much 😎🎸🤘🏽

[@DanBohaneGuitarandPiano]

thanks. I'm new to mixing and getting really frustrated with how it gets muddy as I layer several tracks. Really clear tution, brilliant.

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome! thanks so much!

[@Dudenamedbrian]

I think your my new favorite channel lol

[@LonelyRocker]

Ha! thanks so much! :)

[@esphyxia]

In all my time trying to figure out what the heck mid-side EQ even is and why it may be important.... this video is the ONLY thing thats gotten me to comprehend it so far... THANK you! 😭 I make Dubstep so this seems VERY important for that.... i had NO idea summing to mono still caused issues

[@LonelyRocker]

So glad this helped you!!! My pleasure!

[@4dmind]

I agree that this is important area of knowledge. For example, if you listen to commercial music that was done at moderate to high budget, you'll find that the sides in isolation are very clear. However, this should not be treated as an absolute - for example, with your kick drum case, the side information is actually caused by the asymmetry of the sound itself - if it were a real drum, the sound emanating from the physical drum will never be the exact same left and right, and hence you get some side information. There may be tracks, bands or genres where this is desirable. For any kind of heavy music, mid-side isolation is probably almost always a good move, since there are so many elements competing for frequency space, and mud is not your friend. But with some forms of pop, letting the kick drum (or other elements) keep their natural side variance may be desirable. I approach this aspect of mixing very deliberately. But great video - good techniques.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks. The idea with this video was to introduce the concept to those that don’t understand it. At a basic level it can make a huge difference to a mix. If I made this video again today I wouldn’t have used a kick drum for my low end example. Especially if it was a mono track but the idea was that it was a low frequency example. But I think the point was made and many have enjoyed this video. Thanks for your insight!

[@RhefleX]

There are soooo many techniques to clean up muddy mixes I try not to get lost in the KZbin sauce too much lol. Everyone has their tips lol and then it’s like trying to convert them to your genre so it’s always tricky although his video is good it’s always also good to read things and read books

[@LonelyRocker]

I don’t disagree. It’s good to learn from many sources. Preferably in an organized and structured manner. But KZbin is designed for bite sized learning so I try to share as much useful info as I can.

[@thomasyoung5680]

100% the Best i have watched on understandi d EQ you have a life long sub and likes and support

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad you enjoyed it and so happy to have you here!

[@shemapicture2058]

Just found your Vid. And this is super awesome tutorial. Wish I've found this earlier.....but still tons of thanks. Really really appreciate it. You are the man.....

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!! Better late than never!! Lots more to discover here, hope to hear from you again :)

[@screendrem]

You are extremely good at speaking. Been watching tutorials for 15 years and you are the top %. 👏

[@LonelyRocker]

Wow, thank you! Very very much appreciate. Cheers!

[@elidadi]

your such a great teacher

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much for your kind words!

[@anthonyjunior3335]

You are amazing. Thank you for bombing us with this tutorial.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@7Figure]

WOW this is the best simple easy mixing mids and sides explained , thank you so much for this video!

[@LonelyRocker]

You're very welcome! And my pleasure!!!

[@grantfrotten6598]

OMG - Thank you so much for this. It's exactly what I needed. I've been looking everywhere for this information. This has drastically improved my mixes..!!

[@LonelyRocker]

Sweet! My pleasure! Glad it was helpful!

[@glennwlove]

One of the most easy understand tutorials I’ve ever seen on KZbin. You have a happy new subscriber 😊

[@LonelyRocker]

Wow, thank you! Much appreciated!

[@CosmotheDane]

3rd video i've watched on this topic, and by far the most helpful.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much. Glad you found it helpful!

[@CosmotheDane]

@@LonelyRocker a follow up question if I may. I am a little unclear on how implementing Mid/Side EQ'ing remains/is affected as the audio progresses through the signal chain. For example, if I boost the sides at the start, then the audio hits other plugins or is routed to a bus, what should i be mindful of to keep the intended results? I hope that question makes sense. Thanks again Rocker, who continues to be lonely.

[@LonelyRocker]

@@CosmotheDane That's a much bigger question and hard to answer here. I do tackle bigger questions from my Patreon account if you were interested in joining me there. Link to that is in the description. Maybe I will see you there?

[@thewall3809]

Game changing info and well done - thanks!

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much! I'm glad you found it helpful! Cheers!

[@hafykaproject3408]

God blessed you sir!!! Very useful tutorial 🤗

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you so much! Glad you found it helpful!

[@dirtyharry6297]

Best video on this topic

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!!!! Glad it helped you :)

[@dirtyharry6297]

@@LonelyRockerIt did. Immediately started to try to narrow drone bass and kick with low cut at 240 hz on Side mode and it focused right away. Thank u✊

[@stonedgamer9432]

THANKS FOR THESE LESSONS BRO

[@LonelyRocker]

My pleasure!

[@apostletanguybaleckita4591]

Best tutorial on mid side EQ so far... everything is so clear now... thanks a lot bro!!!!

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome! My pleasure…..

[@patback0785]

Super literal and detailed. Thank you

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much!!! Glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@b.hornetiii.6771]

Nice ... I used this M/S for mastering a song full of hornes, drumms etc. and those hornes where just muddy and all over the place, so after two days of trying after trying I just eliminated some of the low frequencies (from 20hz to 150hz all of it in anger...) from the sides, lifted and lowered some at the center and sides (narrow Q), lifted even on the same frequency spot center and sides (different levels) - so it was like I was cheking with the lift in the same frequency in the sides, how bad or good my raw mix was, or better said how "right I was to lift there ..." as before it was all in "stereo mode" ... It's great video and "M/S treatment" is a must in a mix where there's a lot of instruments playing ... But as you said: The ears are No.1 reference. Thanks again for the great video. Subscribed. :)

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome!! So glad it's working for you! And great to have you here...Thanks!!!

[@garyshore489]

Glad to find this,much thx for making it-coincidentally just recently downloaded Voxengo Span,been studying tutorials before installing it and also have been focusing on M/S processing so looking forward to checking this out and your other one on the Spectrum Analyzer as well... Update-Funny thing,was taking a break from working on EQ'ng a snare and checking out a bunch of tutorials on various subjects I had been meaning to get to like this one,to my surprise the snare type you showed the M/S approach to @9:25 was very close to what I was going after w/the EQ and was able to get a good sense of where the peaks/valleys were... BTW this is a great tutorial man-really appreciate you breaking things down so clearly w/the diagrams/examples....

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome. Glad you discovered them as well. Span is super great once you get the hang of it. Drop me another line once you've gotten through it. And thanks for your thoughts! Good luck!!

[@andreaslubjan240]

Great tutoria! I understand M/S Eq so much better now.🙏👍

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad it helped! Cheers!

[@catsfromspace]

You got my sub with this video. One of the best mixing info I've seen so far.

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome, thank you so much! And welcome!

[@PrinceMjazy]

Excellent tutorial i laterality understood everything Thanks A lot

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad to hear that! My pleasure!

[@mikebryant4146]

Thanks for demonstrating the use of the spectrum analysis. Really helpful! 🙏🏿

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad you enjoyed it! And my pleasure!!

[@normanlove222]

OMG! ive been using mid side in my fab pro 3 wrong. Live and learn. Thanks for this. Im going to have to sub.

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad to help. And welcome!!

[@Danieljfern]

Excellent video. I feel like this has been the missing piece in my process! Thanks

[@LonelyRocker]

Wonderful! I'm thrilled. Glad you liked it!!

[@ETEl2NAL407]

completely ignored mid/side until this explanation, that's a big puzzle piece for me

[@LonelyRocker]

Sweet! Enjoy the power :)

[@rainysummer1981]

thank you so much for the information you're providing us

[@LonelyRocker]

It's my pleasure Thank you for watching!

[@newguy6935]

Wow! This is THE most helpful Mid/Side video out there. Thank you!

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome! ThNk you so much! Glad it helped.

[@MasoudSargon]

Third time watching this. Mind blowing

[@LonelyRocker]

Haha...glad you have found your inspiration!

[@laurenwright6079]

Brilliant video and really helpful. Thanks

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad it was helpful! Cheers!

[@sebastienmax3310]

Thanks man... thats were really usefully useful 😅.... nice

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad to hear that! My pleasure!

[@djtoal51]

thanks for this information, great video an easy to follow , i am new to your channel and this is the first video I've seen and i think it will really improve my mixes. i produce drum and bass music. much love from Birmingham UK

[@LonelyRocker]

Welcome! Glad you found me and so glad you found this helpful. Cheers from Canada!

[@DubFreakuencies]

Thank you so much.Unbelievable the difference it makes.

[@LonelyRocker]

You're welcome!

[@ayodelesunday2130]

Thanks so much for this sir. Really helpful

[@LonelyRocker]

Most welcome!

[@fatih9135]

Great explanation thank you.

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Ian-b3w]

Well explained. Thanks 👍🏻

[@LonelyRocker]

Glad it was helpful!