Long Crank Time? P0340 (GM Truck)

Neighbor brought his 2013 Chevy Silverado 2500HD over with a "my starter won't shut off" complaint.
Turns out the issue is a long crank time, and the truck cranks as long as it needs to to start, even the ignition key is released from the "crank" position.
P0340 - Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit fault is present.
Any scopes or parts required?
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Ivan

[@_RiseAgainst]

As I get older I tend to have a longer cranking time.

[@tonyedwin9042]

Followed by a hard start and rough running. My engine light is flashing 90% of the time

[@paisleyprince5280]

I crank it forever and nothing happens

[@_RiseAgainst]

@@acmautodiagnostics8273 be careful you may be the model getting traded in.

[@FerasAlhawas]

The drains are clogged try something that opens them lol

[@InsideOfMyOwnMind]

Doesn't help when the crankshaft is bent either.

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

Good job Ivan. I strongly agree with your statement "The repair looks like no one has been here." In all my custom modifications and repairs, I strive to leave the car looking like it came from the factory. It's a true sign of professionalism.

[@joehomanick]

Great job Ivan!!!💪💪💪 I love when they come in the shop that easy. .. wish they were all like this ..

[@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176]

I really liked your home made wire holders with alligator clips. Now I have to make one. Thanks much.

[@farmerfb]

I'm still trying to get used to this tool, so I I like seeing you use it, it lets me get better acquainted with where everything is.

[@markmalikowski4971]

Glad to see you had an easy diagnosis for once. You do excellent work.

[@htownblue11]

Slick solder clips man. Easily made and quite handy. Always learning from you my man.

[@TheCrazy243]

I have same soldering iron. I love it! Perfect for tight space. Had a messed up data link or obd2 wiring harness on my personal car, Dodge Avenger. Exposed copper wire and accidentally short to ground.

[@zx8401ztv]

Smashing repair ivan :-D I like your aligator clips on thick support wire/rod, simple but very handy :-D

[@hugh007]

Soldering upside down on your back. You're the man. Thanks.

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Love me some cam sensor codes. Long crank, for viewers who may not know, is from the PCM waiting two or more crank revolutions to turn on the injectors trying to find TDC. Fixed quite a few mouse traps this month at our shop too. Nice work!

[@amperformance1]

I’m having same issue with a new cam sensor any tips?

[@trekfortruth2841]

I sure wish I lived near a mechanic and diagnostician like you!

[@weshawkins7165]

Great video. Another excellent diagnosis and repair.

[@craiggoodwin9704]

Ivan, a ton of content packed into 15 minutes! Great video! Thanks for Sharing! p.s. On your next video I want to see how you reprogrammed that pesky woodchuck!

[@outofthinair1]

That scanner is (SWEET) and I'll bet (EXPENSIVE) and I want one... I always learn something new from your case studies. Case in point 1999 Mercedes Ml320 no codes but had a very slight stumble at idle... Cue visual inspection, I noticed black goo running down the bracket that secures the MAP sensor. Problem solved with a new MAP sensor, the plastic potting had melted in the back of the sensor and caused an incorrect MAP reading to the ECM and explained the negative fuel trim readings when the engine was at operating temp. Oh and by the way my wife loves that old Mercedes so I'll keep it running as long as I can 207,000 miles and counting because ... (if she's not happy ain't nobody happy ) Thank you for all that knowledge you pass on to us "back yard " wannabe mechanics

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks for the comment, Carl! My wife keeps telling me she wants a fancy BMW...maybe one of these days I will break down and let her get one to make her happy hahaha

[@hinoki01]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yeah.. you'll break down and make her happy. IT'LL break down and make YOU unhappy because SHE'S unhappy... You're gonna lose either way ;D

[@d.d4184]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics step away from the BMW. I did a service on one and the dash lit up like a Christmas tree. Explain that to the customer how you strached his chains while you were doing a service 🙄

[@durbinmotorworks6253]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I see X5 videos in the future. :) Many of them.

[@screamingflat6]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics your wife is a gold digger 😂

[@pantherplatform]

Thanks to your advice, I no longer combine two different issues on the same repair order but instead charge for them separately so there's no confusion.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Awesome!

[@bobbydelamar606]

DUDE! That's great, you made helping hands with alligator clips. 🤯

[@zupmeoff]

Sounds peaceful up there.

[@CumminsDriver100]

For any vehicle that lives on a farm, any and all wiring should automatically be run in regular EMT conduit. Lol! And if that gets chewed through...well I'd be moving out of the place real quick!

[@atticstattic]

Looked like we were flying through the Death Star for a moment there...

[@josecondemarin9586]

Ivan thanks for the lesson, it was very interesting simply explain good video. Stay safe and healthy. Thanks 😊

[@baxrok2.]

Well done. Thanks Ivan!

[@sohailrabani]

Another one crancked well by tech ivan..bravo👏

[@keltecshooter]

I have made several of the wire holders like you have , i file down the teeth a bit to reduce the bite into the insulation, lately have seen them on the tool trucks , not cheap , mine cost literally less than half a buck . Like 35 rubles.....

[@esmith836]

Very nice repair!

[@jwilli850]

Thanks man… I’ve been trying to find a video for my truck for about a year or longer. Every other video is fuel related.

[@tetttettamilli6761]

@Ivan - You beat me to the punch - working in that 'lil ground hog day return joke. Now, if the owner looks anything like Bill Murray....

[@JP-uu2rw]

People get confused about what a no hold starter is. A no hold starter allows you to flip the key release and the starter will continue to crank until the engine starts or 30 seconds elapses which ever comes first to prevent overheating of starter circuits This feature prevents the starter from being held in the crank position after the engine has started reducing damage to the starter / flywheel gear teeth

[@calholli]

nice find

[@davidebare3401]

Another great video Ivan! I just bought the thinktools pros because I don’t have a bi-directional scanner and saw that you recommended it. And if you recommend it it must be great! I did notice you used the MK808TS which I purchased from another one of your videos over a year ago. I needed that to fix a TPMS service light on a used truck I bought at that time. I’m learning a lot from your videos since vehicle diagnostics is my weak point and I’m eager to learn it. Thank you

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Glad to hear that David! It's a great scanner, you will love it!

[@butchc7650]

Like the wire clips for your soldering I have another one for you take a test wire with an alligator clip on it and solder a sewing needle into it and you have a probe I took one and soldered sewing needle in both ends

[@Sandmansa]

I like your wire clamps. They look so much cleaner then mine. lol Mine use a piece of wire clothes hanger and I wrap the clamp teeth with black tape. They do the job though.

[@somerandomguy3868]

I always look first, didn't know you could reset the threshold, nice

[@CARRJ142]

Another great video.

[@chekelley6861]

Cue the armchair engineers in 5…4…3…2…🤣

[@oldbiker9739]

well I didn't know that one could lower tire pressure alarm , thank you

[@gregscott344]

Great video Ivan. Eric O. turned me on to you. Didn’t let me down. Good stuff. 👍

[@james10739]

Ts100 nice I have one and like it you should get a chisel tip and the firmware you can find is nice too

[@American_Creed]

You get the job to fix the oil leak

[@craigsowers8456]

Exactlyy on the visual inspection first ... 4 decades in Aerospace QA and I'd guess 90% of faults were found "Visually". As for "Rodents" chewing wires, have the same issue over here in the French Riviera at my place on my C6 Z06 Vette ... they like to crawl up on the fuel rail to each Acorns and also nest in the Cabin Filter ... so far, no wires chewed but not taking chances. So bought some Cotton Balls and a few drops of "Peppermint Oil" (they detest it) and on the Cabin Filter I had to replace ... but no more nesting. You do have to continue to add more drops to the Cotton Balls/Filter (weekly) but it def works Bro !!! "Humans" are not as particular ... the Cabin Filter with Peppermint is quite nice actually. A bottle costs like $8 so cheap insurance. Happy New Year ... love your vids !!!

[@uglysteve1]

The side of the soldering iron will work fine on the shrink tube, I’ve found.

[@arciefan]

Great video/repair Ivan, I need to catch up with your videos, for some reason I haven't watched in awhile. I will catch up.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Welcome back, 👍😁

[@AP9311]

Craaaaaaaaaank, lol. Isn't it but early for groundhog to chew? Nice and clean fix!! Didn't know you can change threshold of the psi . I need to check if my scanner can do that as i do have tpms pids.

[@jeff7.629]

I thought Phil was supposed to let us know whether or not we have 6 more weeks of winter, not chew wires. I didn't know he likes GM wiring.

[@robtheslob3940]

Would it surprise you that GM made wiring insulation out of material that rats, mice and groundhogs love because it was cheaper and didn't think any further about the repercussions ?

[@awaara24]

@@robtheslob3940 so did many other manufacturers, I believe the wiring is made of soy based materials....there's a special Honda electrical tape that was created for this exact reason (pricey though)

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

He likes all vegetable based wiring, so he’ll eat wires for all brands, since all the “environmentally conscious” companies use it. ;)

[@Solarlifeoffgrid]

Yup mine to so ima change out some sensors

[@fire7765]

Good job

[@rickgalla3377]

Great video Thank u

[@ebrahimsadeghi5883]

Good job man 👍

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Nice job 👍

[@lornaz1975]

I had a ground hog chew on the wires in my truck. The damn animal even ate the foam insulation for the A/C and then came back to finish it off.

[@mariosaccoccio1688]

Hey mister groundhog, don't drive angry!

[@68FIREBIRDful]

I live in a rural area with lots of rodents. Chewed wiring is a common occurrence. I have been using Honda anti-rodent tape and aluminum heater duct tape with great success

[@bigfilsing]

Tip If you dont have a gas torch just use the body of the soldering iron to shrink the sleeve. Works remarkably well and you dont need to carry a gas torch

[@vwwrenchie314]

Ground Hog nation sez.. dang.. all that hard chewing just dont beat Ivan the Fixer.lol

[@gregreitan3634]

Sure would like you to make a video on 2017 and up Honda CRV battery issues! My wife has a 2018 CRV with 47k and we're on the second battery, maybe 3rd! Seems there are class action suits over battery issues. I would love to watch your investigation on this subject.

[@tinkerwest]

Quite often, the scope we're born with 👀 is sufficient for detecting problems.

[@RussellBooth1977]

My 5.7 litre Chevrolet LS1 V8 powered Holden Commodore has its camshaft position sensor in the rear of the engine block & I accidentally left it unplugged back in 2009 after replacing a knock sensor & while it did start & run a check engine indicator turned on indicating that I had an engine management system fault !

[@hikerJohn]

It's more comfortable with lower tire pressure but (at least on my truck) they wear better at the higher pressure.

[@Evolvedmindz1]

Too easy Ivan loving the content tho!

[@samisolissolis6556]

🙏🙏en los modelos mas recientes como 2017 el problema es en el inner fender .donde ase la curba los cables ai es el problema

[@mikechiodetti4482]

Good old rodent damage! Been a long time since I did a TPMS reset. When the sensors get older, the batteries will go intermittently lower causing the light to come on. That happened to my 06 Nissan Frontier. In 2016 I had to change all 4 sensors thankfully over a 4 month period.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yeah when one goes just change them all out when changing tires to avoid the hassle :)

[@jesusorta7023]

Subscribed!

[@bujang_Kalem]

Wow amazing😍🔄

[@billziegmond4943]

What is with CMP CPK sensors with you and I. Ijust worked on a car the other day. Scanned it and it was an EVAP code for a change. At least this one for you was just a little wire and solder. Stay well my friend.

[@robbflynn4325]

I have a 2004 Sequoia, plate in driver door recess states recommended tire pressure for front and rear is 32psi which is way below this Silverado.

[@caseyrevoir]

The truck in the video has 'E' rated tires for 3/4 ton use.

[@throttlebottle5906]

I see that truck has the flange for steering stabilizer shock, it looks like it was used and is bent up, I wonder if that shock broke and was up into the wiring wearing it through and chewed it up. the pesky groundhog got the blame though, lol.

[@zackarymcclain164]

BONUS FOOTAGE! I hope you’re coming to ASTE.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Ah I wanted to, but taking the wife to a Jon Pardi coutry concert instead :)

[@markstevens1729]

Under the heading “picky-picky” what about filing the sharp teeth down on the alligator clips? I figure the shrink-wrap would be as susceptible to getting cut as the wire insulation…

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I double shrink wrapped the teeth lol

[@me5ponk454]

That Thinktool menu looks identical to the Launch scanner i have

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yup same software! I love the rugged hardware with the stand of the ThinkTool though :)

[@russellhltn1396]

Need to refer the owner to the Shawn Woods channel for dealing with that ground hog. While he mostly deals with mice and rats, he has done ground hogs.

[@jmaxim80]

its theirs your problem lady, not theirs your problem dude. =)

[@nickpogoler]

Hi Ivan, thanks for doing what you do. You’re a wizard. I just bought a thinktool pros on your recommendation, and I have a question about it. Is there a way to use the camera by itself? I can open the camera to scan a vin or create a customer contact sheet but I can’t seem to open the camera directly. Cheers.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I think so... Actually haven't tried that feature myself yet

[@amperformance1]

I’m having same issues what else could it be ? New cam sensor

[@elipsonj]

What would happen if you went straight to TPMS under maintenance?

[@2packs4sure]

Did anyone else noticed that the truck sounded worse after it was repaired,,, lol...

[@princeclive1913]

Sir please tell me what tool is that you took it to all the 4tyres to get the beep sound got to buy seperate or it comes with the think tool thanks

[@richardcranium5839]

how much wire can a woodchuck chunk ............

[@williamanthony4512]

i am almost having the samething .. i need help

[@upload15613]

I wonder if it would accept something like 0, -1, or -99 for the PSI to just turn off the TPMS.

[@pootthatbak2578]

The score so far..Customers..Zero, TPMS 500 MILLION. that system is unbeatable, they wanted driver safety to increase, yet they did nothing about it, since the replacement cost for each wheel sensor is so high.

[@TiosAutoDiagnostics]

Is that the autel TS608 you were using to read the sensors? And would the autel not adjust the thresholds? I haven’t had a need to adjust thresholds but it’s a good thing to know if my autel is capable. Great video sir, thank you!

[@billsmith2212]

I believe that is the Think Car , Think Tool Pro , Bi Directional Scan Tool .

[@billsmith2212]

Looks like an Autel TPMS Scanner was used in conjunction with the Think Tool

[@TiosAutoDiagnostics]

@@billsmith2212 it looks like the TS608, I’ll have to see if mine has the threshold option.

[@zodmansour3217]

Would have been nice to explain more in detail how you were setting the tire limits.

[@JDel709]

There really isn't much to explain. I have the ThinkDiag mini blue tooth scanner. You go into the module like he showed and input the limits. He was using a TPMS tool for the tire relearn, but most cars can be done manually by letting air out of the stem for about 5 seconds. The horn will beep, then you move to the next tire.

[@waynetyson3951]

I'd patent those clips asap 👌👌

[@trezsr]

Pretty acrobatic groundhogs hanging upside down and chewing on wiring loom.

[@psdaengr911]

They climb up and over and take their time.

[@johnmckamy6398]

Wish they were all that easy.

[@cullenmiller8170]

So if the ground hog comes back and you get the truck back will that be considered a come back too? 😜😂

[@tonymonastiere8510]

Could it be, that Wes World's mice have emigrated into your area? Or, did they leave your area and go to his? Well, maybe a scan of the meeses DNA is in order for the next evaluation! For the future, you're gonna need a bigger boat...with a hoist!

[@taltonbane]

That's where the rodent proof tamp comes in handy but for the $$$$ it cost a new truck isn't unreasonable.

[@autogarageguimaraes]

A question: what model of Thinkcar scanner are you using in this diagnosis? Thanks for sharing!!!

[@smithraymond09029]

There's a link to it in the description box. Btw, like your avatar. I used to drive an 1992 Eagle Talon.

[@pootthatbak2578]

Ivan always says make sure you get the PRO S Model not the regular PRO

[@patrickmoore4907]

Do it works for a 2011 Silverado

[@james10739]

If they are going to run 60 like 58 or 55 seems like a better choice but I don't know

[@robertaccorsini4663]

Do you EVER install repair parts?

[@peterbenson3776]

Porcupines love certain parts like rubber and plastics that might have oil on them.

[@johnc4352]

Hi Ivan, I recently purchased a ThinkToolPros from your menu. The manual that comes with it is very short and gives minimum information. Where can I find the big manual giving me all the info on this machine, like how to find the tpms mod like you showed us in this vid? Thank you.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Hmm good question! I just poke the screen until I find what I need haha

[@gregdutton8219]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I recently got a ThinkTool Pro too and am doing the poking around through the menus. Any info you can share is helpful, thank you.

[@2nickles647]

Ivan. When I bought my scanner. I don't think it came with a manual. I have been poking around too. Been learning from Mr. Eric O and Bernie and you also.

[@pookatim]

cool

[@davidebare3401]

I think you worked on this truck a couple years ago for an abs malfunction. Lol

[@kevinbarry71]

Shouldn't have to worry about that groundhog until February 2

[@venomx4093]

Lol if I was the owner, that groundhog shouldn't have to worry about ME until Feb 2.

[@dennisrowland1371]

have you ever considered using a Liquid Soldering Flux, No-Clean, Pen ?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

never tried one...

[@pootthatbak2578]

Ivan order up some liquid flux..its the industry standard inside the circuit board manufacturers. We use the stuff on everything to help the solder flow better, especially tinning wire tips

[@justinhayward5027]

hey ivan why dont you use crimp and seal connectors? faster and easier. like the ones eric uses.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

They take up too much space, especially in tight locations with multiple broken wires. Often times you can't even get a crimping tool in the space, but a soldering iron always gets the job done and it looks professional :)

[@pootthatbak2578]

Im 3 months late, watch this PHAD video..ivan proves his point in this episode about connections. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpCkYqdjltCEbM0

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

Here I was expecting the usual GM rusted fuel line causing the long crank time. He should try peppermint or cinnamon spray to deter the groundhogs. Sticky rat traps work too.

[@mikefoehr235]

Honda Tape

[@eggyknap]

When I've been camping in the mountains, I found leaving the hood propped slightly open on an old oil bottle helped the local pack rats decide they didn't like nesting on my battery so much. Of course they just nested elsewhere instead

[@HouseCallAutoRepair]

One of these days... would love to shadow the process...