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DiagnoseDan

DiagnoseDan

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@graycleary
@graycleary 2 жыл бұрын
Fixed for free. What a true gentleman you are. Well done 👏🏻
@ShitWrangler
@ShitWrangler 2 жыл бұрын
takin food of the plate of good families underselling the trade, undercut my own family DAMMIT
@TheFrenchPug
@TheFrenchPug 2 жыл бұрын
Dan is a great guy. You can tell he's just a genuinely good dude.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
When i called the owners they were so gratefull, that's worth more than money😁
@bernardaflores1720
@bernardaflores1720 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan They do needed that car because of the Handy Cap ramp.
@graycleary
@graycleary 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan Respect where it is due. Giving back is always a sure way to happiness.
@PDR-wb9dq
@PDR-wb9dq 2 жыл бұрын
That truly was a great diagnoses Dan.... I am also a mechanic of over 35 years in the trade and I don't think I would have found that one, well done my friend that car means a great deal to the person that owns it as without out his car he would be a prisoner in his own home, that car might not be a lot to me and you but it means freedom to him and his family. Great to hear you gave your labour for free you are a good man..... well done my friend and best wishes from the UK 👍
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks the owner was so gratefull that's worth more than money 😁
@lylecoglianese1645
@lylecoglianese1645 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan, what also makes it worth it is the great reviews he will share with family and friends! 🤗
@waynesimpson2074
@waynesimpson2074 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan Fekn hell Dan, you are awesome, what a gent...subscribed, thanks.
@johnbolongo9978
@johnbolongo9978 2 жыл бұрын
This dude is amazingly good at what he does. A cut above. Nicely done.
@gailtaylor1636
@gailtaylor1636 2 жыл бұрын
He's the best.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John that's appriciated
@tonyrice3348
@tonyrice3348 2 жыл бұрын
Hes one of a handful on KZbin that are at the top of their game. Never ceases to amaze me how many times he diagnoses it correctly, oh that's 100% of the time, Dan is the man
@uel202e0b
@uel202e0b 2 жыл бұрын
His analytical skills are incredible.
@Rhaman68
@Rhaman68 Жыл бұрын
By FAR, one of the best diagnose Dan videos! A true detective story full of compassion and technical expertise! Thanks Dan.
@ameribrahim5405
@ameribrahim5405 2 жыл бұрын
Dan I'm a 20 year master technician and still learn something new with every video you put out. You are a diagnostic God. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
@pauloconnor7951
@pauloconnor7951 Жыл бұрын
When I worked on Z's (Nissan Z's) in California; honestly we repaired these issues by plugging in new components; one after another. It worked; i've got to say.
@carlt6932
@carlt6932 8 ай бұрын
​@@pauloconnor7951Very hard to do that these days with the crap parts out there. I tell people if you do that keep your old parts.
@thejoneseys
@thejoneseys 2 жыл бұрын
I did wonder if the pins were different but that really is unbelievable. I guess both of those Bosch sensors were from the same production batch. Without the old sensor that could have gone on a while longer 😁 Very frustrating and needless time and money wasted for everyone. Diagnosis for free guarantees a place in car heaven for you. Great work 👌🏻
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
It already took me far to long😯
@PhillipBailey
@PhillipBailey 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan famous last words...this should be easy...
@glasshalffull8625
@glasshalffull8625 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago, another video mechanic said that it is always preferable to replace the crank position sensor with a replacement from the dealership. Seems he was correct.
@slasher9883
@slasher9883 2 жыл бұрын
@@glasshalffull8625 Unless the dealership item was also made by Bosch (which is very likely in this case).
@glasshalffull8625
@glasshalffull8625 2 жыл бұрын
@@slasher9883 The dealership would immediately know something is wrong with the part as they replace more of those parts for their cars than anyone else. It’s a matter of volume and familiarity with their cars. I had a similar no-start issue and I had narrowed it down to crank position sensor and another sensor. The dealership parts guys helped me out by telling me for every one of the other sensors, they sell a hundred of the crank sensors. No guarantee, but they were right.
@Krotte96
@Krotte96 2 жыл бұрын
I think Bosch should be paying you a lot of money for doing their quality control!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
I already checked 2 sensors for them🤣🤣
@palewriter1856
@palewriter1856 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan So next you're looking at negotiating your per-unit testing price? Good luck with THAT!!! This was a HUGE eye-opener for me, for which I'm WAY GRATEFUL!!! Your tenacity and dedication is BEYOND superlative! Sure, it helps to have all the necessary TOYS, but in lesser hands, that would NOT have been sufficient! WAY to GO, Dan!!! So - for one: I'm simple-minded enough to have thought (for YEARS) that if it wore a BOSCH label, it was FINE STUFF, against which all other manufacturers' products might be measured. REALITY CHECK!!! For two: your work ethic should be taught en masse -- so many youngsters today have NO IDEA AT ALL how things work in the real world work place, or what it means to wrestle a problem to the ground NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES! For three: the tachometer tongue-twister: just call it a tach! (just like TACK) Old school. For four: THANKS again for the INSPIRING tale!
@mgomez5606
@mgomez5606 2 жыл бұрын
Get your money back for defective part.
@palewriter1856
@palewriter1856 2 жыл бұрын
@@mgomez5606 That doesn't even come CLOSE to proper compensation for Bosch's gross blunder!!!
@markwood7346
@markwood7346 2 жыл бұрын
@@palewriter1856 chsers
@WillieJu
@WillieJu 2 жыл бұрын
Another job well done Dan. So nice of you to help out people in need. ! Love your channel - keep 'em video's coming !
@stoqnesko
@stoqnesko 2 жыл бұрын
Job well Dan!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Willem
@MarcBeland
@MarcBeland Жыл бұрын
I didn't get paid 😄 but I learned something (as I do with almost all your videos) so that to me is worth the time spent here. THANKS!!!!!
@TheKeenMechanic
@TheKeenMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
You are an amazing technician Dan. Such an interesting video. Bosch should pay for all this and also recall all poorly manufactured sensors produced. One of my favourite videos. You can tell by the way you recorded this that you really enjoyed it as well🤝
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
I did always nice when something simple turns into an interesting case!
@peterrichardson9355
@peterrichardson9355 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a South Main Auto channel and he had the same problem with a Honda speed sensor cheap chinese made after abit of time decided to replace the part with a genuine part from the dealers bingo it worked so well done to you for taking the time to sort it for the customer and you will store that diagnosis for the next time shame on Bosch for not checking their products
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it happens everywhere unfortunately
@mjjohnson61
@mjjohnson61 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan I diagnosed a Nissan Xxtrail with faulty cams sensor and lack power purchase a new one from dealer engine wouldn’t start installed old one engine started, new original sensor faulty ,
@kennethtalbott2233
@kennethtalbott2233 6 ай бұрын
yep, south main guy is well decent too. watch a lot of his stuff.
@ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO
@ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Dan! I’ve been down several rabbit holes because of incorrectly manufactured parts. It’s part of what makes this industry so frustrating to work in, but I love what I do. Thanks again for the awesome video!
@TheFrenchPug
@TheFrenchPug 2 жыл бұрын
It's happening a lot more frequently. Chinese parts and bad OEM parts seem to be on the rise.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you here! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment it's appriciated 👍
@-robster-robster-
@-robster-robster- 2 жыл бұрын
And when you see local parts factor companies delivering to main dealer stores to get a cheaper pattern part quicker than oe it makes me sad that some poor dude is paying dealer prices for aftermarket parts
@sollykhan2385
@sollykhan2385 2 жыл бұрын
@@-robster-robster- it's happening a lot more frequently than you think, Euro Car parts sold the complete 4 wire Green coolant temp sensors on the day i rang for 1, when i arrived to collect mine, i witnessed a local vw/ Audi dealer driver collecting the entire stock from them, giving me no choice but to go there, and PAY THEIR PRICES!! worse was to come, it was a cheap Chinese obviously that failed a few day's later, when i returned it to the Audi supplier, was told it cannot be returned because it had already been fitted, and they couldn't resell it in that condition!! 🤥
@jamiuajasa9367
@jamiuajasa9367 2 жыл бұрын
Boss comment on boss video 🤣 nice one guys!
@pa590skrt
@pa590skrt 2 жыл бұрын
you got to love Dan for not charging for fixing this car. keep up the great work Dan! f
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😁😁👍
@ballebart
@ballebart 4 ай бұрын
You saved my day! 😱 I stumbled upon this video by chance and kept watching for a good reason! I’m just a DIYer trying to keep my Citroën AX from 1993 alive. It had the same symptoms: crank but no start. I already tried to diagnose many things with simple tools, but I felt out of luck and just thought, who cares, I’ll try switching pins 1 and 2 as you explained in the video, and see what happens. You should have seen my face when the engine started 😅Thank you so much for making this video!
@robertmedina6875
@robertmedina6875 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan you are a saint. My step dad was in a wheel chair and trying to get by on a 1000.00 a month American dollars per month!! He ended up with cerebral palsy from birth and was crippled in the chair. So because of this the American system works like they just don't give you very much if you have never worked in your life. Had he have worked he would have got about 1600 a month. Unfortunately his fingers were crippled and the only thing that he could do was pack O-rings in kits for a company called Clark equipment. They paid him 3 cents per kit. Needless to say we were very poor growing up. When they never forget my dad would have been happy. You're a good man Dan
@DavidSuttoninSpain
@DavidSuttoninSpain 2 жыл бұрын
How can BOSCH make such a mistake? I am so glad that you sorted it out for the people well done Dan, for sticking with that problem a lot of people would have charged them the earth and not been able to fix it.
@DavidSuttoninSpain
@DavidSuttoninSpain 2 жыл бұрын
@@dazaspc the same mistake twice? Some really intelligent storeman then, perhaps he should find another vocation. 😉
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
What proberbly happens is that Bosch buys these parts for older cars from another party and sticks them in a Bosch packaging without checking
@Random-nf7qb
@Random-nf7qb 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan What is probably going to happen is that I'm not gonna buy bosch any more :) Cheapskates...
@frenchielovescars
@frenchielovescars 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily a Bosch issue. I have had the same thing on a clutch pedal sensor on a BMW. Imagine that for some reason you have 2 very similar parts that are physically the same but wired opposite because of the ECU they are connected to. 10 yrs after the car is not sold anymore the part numbers get superseded and no one remembers why there was 2 different part numbers and both get superseded by the same part.
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan That's it That's how everything's gone nowadays
@Retirement_Life
@Retirement_Life 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you again, Dan. Who would have thought Bosch would have got their wiring inverted?! 😜
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Not me for sure, it would have safed me alot of time if i suspected anything like this!
@JT-lq4yd
@JT-lq4yd 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at it from another perspective, it is good that the wired connector is only for a signal and not for power. Otherwise, the ECM would be fried.
@mrblonde2013
@mrblonde2013 2 жыл бұрын
There's not many people who would have been able to find this. This could have been one of those "unfixable" cars or accidentally fixed with dumb flipping luck, without understanding what is actually wrong. You're the man Dan 😊
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@lo1234-w9r
@lo1234-w9r Жыл бұрын
The engine still ran with the old sensor but wouldn't start with the new. Why wouldn't you be able to figure that out? He probably could have avoided all of this and put on an OEM sensor to begin with.
@juergenbertram7312
@juergenbertram7312 Жыл бұрын
@@lo1234-w9r , the engine started up, as long as the sensor was still cold !
@johannadefeles2227
@johannadefeles2227 Жыл бұрын
Dan I would say the electronics in the module would recognise rpm on either negative or positive edge trigger of the signal but not both. Can be worked out from waveforms perhaps? Incredible company like Bosch could get wires wrong, possibly incorrect part number etc.@@Diagnosedan
@noelconnor8539
@noelconnor8539 10 ай бұрын
He certainly is theman😂😂❤
@dblomvo7732
@dblomvo7732 8 ай бұрын
Scary, when used good OEM parts and don’t work, but it happens. Thank you Dan, appreciate you. My prayers for you and your family for abundance of blessings. Stay safe peace
@luigih5018
@luigih5018 Жыл бұрын
I completely forgot my car issues watching this. Engagement to the next level❤.
@GeminiSeven43
@GeminiSeven43 2 жыл бұрын
I Love these video's especially when it comes to a problem that stumps the professionals like yourself. Bad parts are the plague of the future I'm afraid and your video showing the diagnosis and the use of the Pico scope to help identify these nightmares is a Blessing to all of us who don't have the real world experience that you do. Thank you so much Dan for taking us with you on these journeys into the unknown, you truly are a great teacher.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great comment it's appriciated
@englishbob5106
@englishbob5106 2 жыл бұрын
🇬🇧 Bad parts are also a plague of the past also !
@robertwilliams4327
@robertwilliams4327 Жыл бұрын
I am not surprised I bought a Bosch o2 sensor and it was NBG. Mech friend said they the wire them wrongly. GRRRRR.
@mcautodatas
@mcautodatas 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent diagnosis. This video proves that even new premium parts can be faulty and for different reasons. Great video!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TyroneMaye
@TyroneMaye Жыл бұрын
shows there charging way too much for those faulty so called premium parts... i wonder how are they verifying that the parts made from production truly actually work as they say they supposed to....🤔 for the cash prices there being sold to consumers for...i get it that without having a skilled tech with the wear with all to do what this mechanic here has done ....its same thing shop would be telling consumer X Y Z and the consumer would be in essence throwing money at the vehicle with out there being any real meaningful input to solve the problem... guess sometimes less known name brand parts work more efficiently then does the known name brand auto parts guess folks are participating in a crap shoot swhen it comes to purchasing some parts i suppose ...
@robertshunter
@robertshunter 2 жыл бұрын
Never saw that coming! Truly quality content. 👍 Non-honorary *BOO-HISS!* for Bosch's failed quality control process.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Troy_Built
@Troy_Built 2 жыл бұрын
Must have been a newbie on that shift. I wonder how many made it out in that batch.
@JasonSpiffy
@JasonSpiffy Жыл бұрын
You are the Eric O of Europe! Only difference is your shop is always quiete while Eric’s is loud!!! Keep the videos coming!!!
@carlt6932
@carlt6932 8 ай бұрын
You are one of the few that puts videos out that teach great techniques. Most need to be labeled For Entertainment Purposes Only. Thank you Dan.
@darrollfryer628
@darrollfryer628 2 жыл бұрын
Dan I just want to say is thank you for the great video more then anything not charging the customer that even made it the best video ever. Due to an accident I am also handicapped but as a technician that I was I wished I could have done more for the handicapped just because they have a lot of outgo on their end from their income and no one to help so that they can survive and live at a little better than what they are now believe it or not just what you just did help them out the most anybody could have ever done God bless you for that and I wish more people were like you keep up the great work keep putting out these great videos I love them it gives me something to do and once again thank you from the bottom of my heart
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Darrol, thanks for your comment, the owner was very gratefull, that was worth more than money
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 2 жыл бұрын
I sure appreciate that you did this process all over again. I always learn a lot here. Oh my goodness, that was it? Wow. I don't want to give it away but that was very interesting and yes, who should pay for that? A great question.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Normally i wouldn't bother filming something like this, but this one turned into something special🤣
@marcioreis2648
@marcioreis2648 2 жыл бұрын
Great diagnostic again Dan. I would never think of a Bosch part to be that messed up. But you fixed it again. By the way once this Pandemic and invasion is over I'll pay for all the expenses to fly out to you and help you for free of course , that is if you ever need anybody. P.S. I've been working with diagnosing and fixing just about anything on wheels an on water for the longest time and noticed a few parts that are counterfeit with brand names on them. Sign of the times I guess.
@gailtaylor1636
@gailtaylor1636 2 жыл бұрын
Only have to swap the pin locations in the connector. Simple fix once you know the problem. Like when the 70 year old machine quit in a factory and nobody knew how to fix it. They called an old guy that used to work there and asked him. He came out with what looked like a doctors bag. Laid out 3 things. Stethoscope Chalk Big rubber hammer Walked around and around the machine listening occasionally with the stethoscope. After few minutes, drew a big X on the side of machine. Picked up the rubber hammer and gave it a big old whack. Machine sprung to life!!! Wrote up a bill for $18,000. Manager screamed about the fee. Said he wanted itemized bill as he wasn't paying him for hitting it with a hammer. Bill said: Labor---$10 Knowing where to hit it---$17,990 They paid the bill!😂🤣😂
@TheFrenchPug
@TheFrenchPug 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to go with you. Would be a great trip!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes fake parts are a problem, but what i think happed in this case is that Bosch buys these parts for older cars from another party and sticks them in a Bosch packaging without checking.
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma 2 жыл бұрын
A French car with Italian electronics, what can go wrong? Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if Magneti Marelli originally used some Italian cranksensor that's fully identical to a Bosch but with some connectorpins swapped. It wouldn't be the first time an Italian company used a "trick" like this to sell their own product. So I don't think it's a Bosch problem but rather a Magneti Marelli problem.
@daveklassen7052
@daveklassen7052 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan I think the parts were intended for the UK market, where everything is left-handed ....
@mollyhackman4910
@mollyhackman4910 Ай бұрын
That is a lesson that everybody learns, eventually. Sometimes the new part is no good. Let me tell you this one had me going all the way to the last. Good job man, thanks for posting the video.
@billrimmer5596
@billrimmer5596 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Dan. I just watched this video again. Repetition is the mother of retention. Thanks again. It’s gloomy and rainy in Sunny California
@boosteddiesel1834
@boosteddiesel1834 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!, thanks very much. You were actually right, I never did expect that l, but hey it happens. In the words of Eric O “just because it’s new, doesn’t mean it’s good”. Good on you for sticking it out to the end. Keep up the good work 👍
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and Eric is right!
@markmagee2382
@markmagee2382 2 жыл бұрын
Whow, I’ve never been into diagnosis as was way above my head but you provide it in such a simple way it’s easy to follow. I’ll be more sceptical of branded parts in future if replacing and no cure. Thank you and brill sorting that car out for the owners, their mobility will have been so important for them 👍
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
The owners were very gratefull !
@hugh007
@hugh007 2 жыл бұрын
There are probably thousands of those Bosch sensors at parts suppliers. Techs everywhere will be facing the same problem. Thanks.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many have been sold?
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see you do some more complex diagnostics, even though I understand how it might mess up your shop work flow. I was surprised this crank sensor is the old style VR sensor rather than a hall effect sensor. What an interesting final diagnosis.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Its an old car😉
@TyroneMaye
@TyroneMaye Жыл бұрын
what's the difference between the VR sensor and the Hall Effect sensor ?
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd Жыл бұрын
@@TyroneMaye Variable Reluctance sensors produce their own voltage by placing a magnet and a coil beside a steel toothed hub that rotates by, and it produces a sine wave that varies in amplitude and frequency. They have two wires. Hall effect sensors have at least three wires, they require input voltage and ground, they have internal electronics that produce a square wave from a rotating magnetic strip. They are more expensive, more delicate and more accurate, especially for slow rotation rates. Wikipedia has more detail.
@TyroneMaye
@TyroneMaye Жыл бұрын
@@spelunkerd thank you for taking the time to explain the difference of them both to me.
@paulisaaksohn9179
@paulisaaksohn9179 Жыл бұрын
Dan, I am totally blown away by your top-notch professionalism, work ethics, experience, superb skills and above all your relentless perseverance and passion for the trade, not to mention dedication to your customers for lack of a better term. What a blessing it would be to have you take a look at my car and consult you from time to time on some car issues. Keep up the great job!Shame on you, Bosch!You need to pick up the tab for all the trouble!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
One word: MERCEDES!! ;) But at least the Mercedes was flashing the Crank Sensor code lol... Your Peugeot gave no clues at all! Now what signal was the signal generator putting out to be recognized by the ECM? Surprised that it worked because the ECM seemed very picky about the signal 🤔👌
@mikesabin8568
@mikesabin8568 2 жыл бұрын
I have that same tool dan has. Autosim pro. It has presets. Just hook tool up to battery, go under sensor sim and choose crankshaft sensor. There is Hall effect and inductive choice, select inductive for this application and play with settings until you get read out on data pid
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 2 жыл бұрын
My '94 BMW 740 crank sensor started being intermittent as well, with no code. Finally it too quit altogether and wouldn't start. At the time I didn't even know it was the crank sensor until I had to try to get the car running again.
@MicraHakkinen
@MicraHakkinen 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect it's just that the ECU is designed to trigger on a specific waveform, for example a rising edge followed directly by a falling edge. There's probably a filter and/or waveform trigger in the electronics to eliminate noise and false triggers, which then only passes on a clean pulse to the rest of the ECU if it detects the correct waveform. And with the BOSCH sensor presenting the rising and falling edge inverted, no signal would ever make it past the ECU's input conditioning. Which would also explain why there was no fault code set: the ECU never even knew the engine was supposed to be running.
@waterheaterservices
@waterheaterservices 2 жыл бұрын
We bought a new Volvo 264 in 1976 with the Renault Pugeot V6. I am still mad at France 🤣
@clueless6559
@clueless6559 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan , the ECM if it could read the Bosch sensor it would think the engine was turning backwards when cranking with the reverse polarity sensor , if that makes sense , not come across a code for cranking backwards yet 🙃
@paulhutchins6019
@paulhutchins6019 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so well done Dan and credit to you for not charging a disabled customer for all that time, very honourable. I now work for a charity that has vehicles like that and the replacement costs are outrageous considering that there's not much in the back apart from the ramp and some chair attachment points. Some do have lowering rear suspension, but hard to justify the phenomenal prices!
@bystander1489
@bystander1489 2 жыл бұрын
Charites are tax free
@paulhutchins6019
@paulhutchins6019 2 жыл бұрын
@@bystander1489 but the vehicles are not! We've just spent nearly £70,000 on one!
@GNX157
@GNX157 2 жыл бұрын
My guess would be because it’s all custom work and the parts are small batch plus maybe the huge costs of getting the vehicle crash test certified again? And of course since insurance probably pays in many instances, that will immediately make the costs be higher.
@paulhutchins6019
@paulhutchins6019 2 жыл бұрын
@@GNX157 but the vehicles use type approved modifications so they don't have to be individually certified 🤷🏼‍♂️
@GNX157
@GNX157 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulhutchins6019 I didn’t mean individually vehicle approved. I mean that overall model car retested after the disability system kit was designed for sale.
@PhillipBailey
@PhillipBailey 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing I was mentioning this to my students today about a magnetic pulse generator being reversed polarity. I've seen that before several times but those were due to someone replacing the pigtail in the harness. One was on a Caddy with dual crank sensors for redundancy but with one signal inverted the ignition module would not process either so crank no start. You would only catch this with a lab scope but you need a known good signal for comparison. Another was on a GM 3.1 were the wires were crossed and it acted like it was out of time. It would fire but not run and then foul the plugs. Good find. I would not have expected this from Bosch. I usually try to use oe sensors whenever possible.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
OEM is the safe choice when it comes to sensors!
@allankaplan8264
@allankaplan8264 Ай бұрын
Greetings Dan! I look forward watching your highly educational and informative professional diagnostic and repairs videos. Thank you for your great contribution to mostly DIYrs like myself! I have four 600 series of Benzes but my most respected one is my 1987 300D Turbo that has never failed me going back to 1991. She has been loyal and ingrained a respect for her after dependably drove over 238,000 miles since I owned it. I bought with 76,000 miles and the orignal owner was a mechanic and took good care of the car. About 2 months ago for first time car exceeded the normal running temperature. I changed the water pump, fan clutch, thermostat, temperature send-in sensor on the block as well as on the sensor on tops of the top hose housing. Also had the Radiator shop boiled and flushed the radiator. I made sure to remove any possible trapped air the engine etc. But she is still running hot. Very confusing. I also pressure tested for the head and the block leak test all checks out fine. You being a true wizard is my last hope before I retire my very loyal 300D Turbo and park in for good with my three other cars for I'll never sell this baby for her undying loyalty.
@brathishan5611
@brathishan5611 2 жыл бұрын
Discovered this channel 3 days ago and binge watched all the videos, look forward to more. Thanks Dan.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha that's great, thanks for watching my video's its really appriciated
@Prometheus1954
@Prometheus1954 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Dan. That is so mess up that Bosch got the wiring reversed on the sensor. Great job as always. I do enjoy to seeing your approach to solving issues like this.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven, i see this happening more often and its not just Bosch
@Prometheus1954
@Prometheus1954 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan I see it too in alternators starters and other sensors here in the USA.
@4l5m6e1n
@4l5m6e1n 2 жыл бұрын
great video Dan! I thought Bosch was supposed to be a reliable brand, but apparently not.
@khalidacosta7133
@khalidacosta7133 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped buying Bosch a while ago when the quality dropped. Maybe it's just for aftermarket parts, with OEM products still being made in house but aftermarket, source out production to cheaper manufacturers I reckon!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
I think they buy these parts for older cars from another party and sticks them in a Bosch packaging without checking.
@katadafareed6651
@katadafareed6651 2 жыл бұрын
Great work Dan, I had a similar experience with a V8 Audi 80 for a friend collecting dust for years, using the oscilloscope function of Carman Scan VG+ it turned out the timing pin the crank flywheel was broken.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Great find!!
@imperativeemarketing5546
@imperativeemarketing5546 Жыл бұрын
I liked your video and I'm going to watch more of them. I ran across your video doing some research for a 1998 Dodge Dakota occasional stall problem. As a former California state licensed smog mechanic (1990) your video reminded me of the good old days when I worked in a shop and whenever they had a vehicle diagnosis which no one could figure out, they would give it to me and I would solve it in no time. It's been a while, but I know I'll have no problem with the Dodge... and I'll enjoy watching some more of your videos... thanks for the great entertainment.
@ralfeotto4468
@ralfeotto4468 2 жыл бұрын
Dan, my respect for figuring this out. I understand the the frusrationt however in eliminating one path over another a brilliant result.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ralf
@konezoumana614
@konezoumana614 2 жыл бұрын
Very good lesson. Always happy to learn with you. Thank you so much Dan!!!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@The_Redkween
@The_Redkween 2 жыл бұрын
Time for another Diagnose Dan video! Can’t wait! Already liked and ready to go!
@jimyep9971
@jimyep9971 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣👍
@sidm3300
@sidm3300 2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video, and very well presented. Subbed straight away. As a mechanic in the 60's and 70's I'm amazed at how ridiculously complicated cars have become. I left the trade in '76 and didn't get involved with it again until I retired from working eight years ago. Since then I've watched all kinds of videos of this sort and finally found your channel. You have a great way of explaining things and I'll be binge watching all your content.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thats great to hear, thanks for Subscribing!
@bigmotor3845
@bigmotor3845 Ай бұрын
I had the same problem with an older Volvo almost 17-18 years ago. Great job DD!!
@octaviansorescu7427
@octaviansorescu7427 2 жыл бұрын
So much patience and determination!!! Formidable! A real winner! For three months I have been looking for information about the EGR of the Vw Golf 6 1.6 tdi. Now I know absolutely everything about him. The problems that arise, mechanical, electrical, working parameters, every electrical connection, absolutely everything! Good luck! We are waiting for new episodes!
@blockbertus
@blockbertus 2 жыл бұрын
What I learned from a bunch of friends who are fans of french cars is that you should never mix french cars with Bosch parts. At least not when it comes to ignition related things. I guess they were onto something... Edit: Looking at the wave forms, it appears as if the polarity of the Bosch sensor is reversed. Edit 2: Oh, you also noticed that... Oups.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣👍
@gerhardvandenberg7249
@gerhardvandenberg7249 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan What I learned from this video. If it doesn't work after you have tried everything...... Change the wires around ...... OOOPS!!!!!! 😜😎😭
@davyboy380
@davyboy380 2 жыл бұрын
Good man Dan, your a diamond of a feller for helping others who are in need and also teaching others the tips and tricks of the trade. Great videos Dan..Thanks mate.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you David
@bernardaflores1720
@bernardaflores1720 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, it just shows you how crazy the aftermarket parts world is with bad parts, fake parts and lots of quality issues. We are buying used OEM parts to replace does that fail. You at least get a much better part at a lower price point.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
OEM is the safe way to go for sensors for sure!
@davidbarton7463
@davidbarton7463 Жыл бұрын
Happy days when you can fix at another level, your smile says it all. Well done I'm proud of you.
@andythomas7931
@andythomas7931 Жыл бұрын
OMG what a brilliant feel good video bless you Dan for helping the owners. I felt like I was watching a Hollywood movie at the edge of my seat. FANTASTIC!
@whathasxgottodowithit3919.
@whathasxgottodowithit3919. 2 жыл бұрын
Would a genuine OEM part have worked? Great diagnosis by the way
@BlarginBro
@BlarginBro 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Bosch is oem
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it proberbly would have. The original was made by Siemens.
@Karelvermaere
@Karelvermaere 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, great video! Brought back some memories as I had the exact same issue a few years ago on an old renault scenic. It had a bad crank sensor (also inductive 2 wire, the ones on top of the gearbox mounted with 2 M6 bolts) when you buy a new one most of the time it comes with a new connector they want you to solder in to the cars wiring. Probably because these connectors go bad easely. I don’t remember the brand, but they also had the colors switched on the new connector and after installing we had a no start. I was looking on the scope for full 2 days until I found that indeed the signal was inverted and the ecu did not see this as a problem but just ignores the signal. So when I knew this I just had to switch the 2 wires and the car started right up. Very very frustrating! So thanks again for this video, I’m sure it will help some people out. Take care! Karel
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 2 жыл бұрын
This was really an interesting one, I started to think that maybe the ECU wasn't properly grounded since I have experienced that once. Sometimes you need to pay a bit to learn a lot more. This is also why I don't fully trust codes given by an ECU.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MrBrander
@MrBrander 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The error codes given by the ECU are only as smart as the ones who designed them. Also ECU error codes require a lot of sensors and other ways to follow and diagnose the engine condition to be accurate. Fewer sensors and methods more approximate and thereabout the error codes are.
@TimDyb
@TimDyb Жыл бұрын
WOW!!! Without an O'scope, you'd have never figured out the reason why it wouldn't start. Great video!
@partero01
@partero01 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable I know nothing about cars, but got hooked on how you diagnosed this problem! I also loved the outtakes - Tac - Om - Meter (RPM gauge ).
@sid-craftbuilder675
@sid-craftbuilder675 2 жыл бұрын
Dan, Just ran across your channel and love it. There is a channel by Mr. Carlson's Lab and he is a genius when it comes to electronics (radio, etc) and after watching several of your videos, I must say you are a genius when it comes to automotive diagnosis. Very educational watching you chase down and fixing problems. Please keep doing what you do best.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, i'll have a look at Mr. Carlsons channel👍
@adrianvalbuena8158
@adrianvalbuena8158 2 жыл бұрын
When I teach automotive electronics I always bring my old electric guitar to my class to see the phase phenomenon on inductive sensors, it has a pickup setup to invert one of the signals from a pickup, so it sounds like chorus effect when mixed, we use to record smoke on the water using inductive sensors XD, and we can see the signal pattern on the pico. VERY good video Dan, keep this line, I love it!!!!!!!!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment it's appriciated
@dubblyewjay1133
@dubblyewjay1133 2 жыл бұрын
Ok! I need you to build me one for me to play SOTW, the forbidden riff in music stores.😉
@wurlyone4685
@wurlyone4685 2 жыл бұрын
Sure didn't see that one coming. I thought it was going to be something far more plausibly random like an immobiliser switch wired into the aftermarket rear hatch/wheelchair ramp setup, to inhibit starting in case that wasn't stowed correctly! Would love to know what Bosch have to say about this?
@gailtaylor1636
@gailtaylor1636 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought too. It was too simple.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Bosch Will respond😁
@lukasgrincevicius5027
@lukasgrincevicius5027 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a signal generator was a key confirmation. Need to rig one up for myself. Excellent work Dan !
@arifharichund8829
@arifharichund8829 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Dan. Your video confirms the quality of parts being sold. It is very dangerous if weak parts are supplied for engine or brakes... which can be hazardous to the engine or ones safety😢
@spyderlogan4992
@spyderlogan4992 2 жыл бұрын
Crank position sensor: 1) Original=Bad, 2) 1st spare=mis-wired, 3) 2nd spare=mis-wired, 4) 3rd spare=wired correctly. Wow. Well Done Dan~!!!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this was a strange case, it took me way to long
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
@@dazaspc you are right but this is what happens sometimes and can be part of a diag when parts are available.
@binagarten4667
@binagarten4667 Жыл бұрын
Every town every city, every country needs Dan. Clone Dan.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this one with us all, as always with these type of diags , persistency is what pays off in getting to the end. Not too mention the power of the scope to be able to let you "see" the "why" to the situation of one sensor working and the other not. Appreciate all the effort as always!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great comment it's appriciated
@phyllismassey5780
@phyllismassey5780 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this informative video. I'm not a mechanic but grew up near many. Just a woman who isn't afraid of learning how to make repairs on my own vehicle.
@viktortoghia6066
@viktortoghia6066 Жыл бұрын
I have also been in this industry for 20+ years and seen the new parts more and more times being defective. It is hard to do your job when you expect the new parts to be good and they turn out bad. Great job, love your chanel.
@HelgiThorisson
@HelgiThorisson 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Throughout the years I have seen a few faulty new parts. They are not always cheap aftermarket parts. It is frustrating that you can not rely on the new part being okay. Are we supposed to test all the new parts before installing them? Who is paying for that? Actually someone could start a new business that evolves around testing parts before they are sold over the counter. 😀
@TheFrenchPug
@TheFrenchPug 2 жыл бұрын
We truly do need something or someone that can test them before installing. There is no more quality control from the manufacturers apparently.
@flaviokonti5522
@flaviokonti5522 2 жыл бұрын
And who is gonna pay for testing? I dont think manufacturers have intention paying for something they were supposed to do in the first place, let alone pay somebody else to test their shit. And I dont think customer will want to knowingly buy untested product and then take it to somebody for testing and be additionaly charged for this lol. Thats why you have consumer rights to return any defect product and have another one or money back, and store then returns the faulty part to manufacturer. The only one who is at loss here is car technican who wastes time and cant charge it to anybody, but then again thats why they charge replacements at premium timings so its a closed circle 😂
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣👍
@Alanw74
@Alanw74 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see what Bosch have to say about this.... You expect better from them
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe we get some feedback from them
@isalmankhan1
@isalmankhan1 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome👍 Thanks for sharing Dan👍 It could be easily a part's canon, especially when the signal was making it to the PCM, indeed a very tough one, but you fixed it😍 DiagnoseDan Fixed it Again, Stay Safe Bro❤
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
@elelectricistademateo
@elelectricistademateo 2 жыл бұрын
thank God at last another diagnoseDan video - was about to get the next bank around my town and "borrow" some money to go to Holland and start asking for you - long trip equal a lot of money - lol - thank you one more time Dan for sharing your knowledge with us -
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣👍 Thanks for the positive comment
@LondonCarnaval
@LondonCarnaval 2 жыл бұрын
Big DAN you are the MAN. You don't give up, your perseverance and determination 💪 sets you above the rest. You are the world's heavy weight CHAMPION of THE WORLD 💪💪💪🏅🎖🥇♦️♥️ AND your kindness knows no boundaries. That poor handicapped owner is very lucky to have you within his proximity. Every town and city needs the BIG DAN , you are awesome 👌 👏👍👍👍👏👏👏✌❤🍀 🙌
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive comment it's really appriciated 👍
@The_Redkween
@The_Redkween 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual, Dan! I was guessing a 5 volt ref getting pulled down and was wrong.
@dennisphoenix1
@dennisphoenix1 2 жыл бұрын
It was a good guess . 😉
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
I also thought that at some point and checked that. Could have been!
@stevehayes7921
@stevehayes7921 2 жыл бұрын
Dan, you have a lot of patients my friend, but we'll done !!!!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
😁👍
@HashiriyaSquadron
@HashiriyaSquadron 2 жыл бұрын
At first I thought you may have overlooked a blown ECU fuse or a broken signal wire to the ECU. But good work as always.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
I have checked all of that😯
@jackstainmwanda4379
@jackstainmwanda4379 7 ай бұрын
Mr dave likes to say that just because it's out of the box doesn't mean it's a straight swap,, you got to check it.. this info you just layed out is great boss👍👍
@chewykarma
@chewykarma 2 жыл бұрын
Easy to get caught up in the weird science of the repair, but it is Dan's dedication to making a plan and then working the plan that was the big takeaway for me. “Assembly of Japanese bicycle require great peace of mind.” Robert Pirsig.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment
@kevinpalmer7452
@kevinpalmer7452 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting case Dan I have to admit I’d run out of answers after seeing what appeared to be a good CPS signal at the ECU. Couldn’t help but notice what amazing condition that car is in for its 22years well worth the effort
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the car is in great shape!
@marshallgoldberg8376
@marshallgoldberg8376 2 жыл бұрын
That is so impressive! You are a master at what you do, and I have so much respect for your support of the disabled.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
The owner was very gratefull! It was great
@mikeclinch1141
@mikeclinch1141 Жыл бұрын
Love the video - glad to have found you - I was a commissioning engineer on control systems for a few years and this brings back those memories - when you check it all out and cant find the problem and you go round in circles a few times trying random things , anything, until you eventually solve it, then try and explain to the office why it took you hours to get there - made me smile - thanks !
@idonotwantahandle2
@idonotwantahandle2 Жыл бұрын
Waveform analysis is still an under-represented part of diagnosis. Same as years ago. After basic checks, input data is the way to go and in this case it was what really needed scrutinized. Nice work getting it repaired. Feels good to get to the bottom if it where others fail, doesn't it? You also proved yourself to be dedicated and honest.
@BaronRosenhein
@BaronRosenhein Жыл бұрын
Job well done Dan. A lot of old(er) ECUs specifically watch waveform transition on the missing tooth to detect if the engine is rotating in the right direction. For the Bosch sensor to work just reverse wires at the sensor connector (or ECU whichever is easiest). Just something to keep in mind.
@cyclingluke9412
@cyclingluke9412 Жыл бұрын
That’s what he did at the end of the video….
@Peter-od7op
@Peter-od7op 6 ай бұрын
God is watching over you. So proud you helped out the handicapped.
@mechanior6483
@mechanior6483 2 жыл бұрын
another good job, you should upload videos more often, even for simple repairs. it's invaluable learning to be able to watch you solve even the most complex faults step by step. I've been watching you since you had 10,000 subscriptions and you still surprise me, you do it great. Greetings :)
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for sticking with me for all these years its appriciated
@mrBDeye
@mrBDeye 2 жыл бұрын
We shall call you Doctor Dan. You are incredibly knowledgeable.
@neverstoplearning382
@neverstoplearning382 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is crazy. I see all the comments and realize how we all learn from each other. Great job Dan
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Every day is a learning Day!
@josephbeltramini5442
@josephbeltramini5442 2 жыл бұрын
Dan doesn’t have problems, only solutions.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
😁👍
@atlasxxiii
@atlasxxiii 2 жыл бұрын
Bosh needs to pay for it and send you a thank you card with a prime restaurant card for the whole crew. You just saved them a law suit
@michaelovitch
@michaelovitch 2 жыл бұрын
I would have thought to a sensor wired for a different rotation Honda engine from the same era recycled for Euro brands. If it had a clutch replaced ,i would have said that the flywheel tone ring pattern is not the good one. Nice work,i'm sure you was pissed off a bit by a "free" easy job you understood nothing about at a point.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Wow there are so many people in the comment section with this problem on motorcycles
@michaelovitch
@michaelovitch 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan Honda cars,they rotate the other way.
@jamesbrown2163
@jamesbrown2163 2 жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan I am looking at your channel, hoping to get lucky finding a way to diagnose and fix my BMW R1200R. It won't start without holding the throttle open. Runs super rich at idle. These bikes don't have MAP sensors. They rely on the throttle position sensor to tell the ECU how much fuel to inject. I bought an oscilloscope to try and work out what is wrong. Your Video has inspired me to have another go at diagnosing the problem. You are a Legend Sir. Thanks so much.
@StoneKathryn
@StoneKathryn 7 ай бұрын
I had a no crank, no start. Replaced starter motor. Battery okay! Alternator okay! Fuel fine! Bad positive bolt into side terminal battery! Crazy! Two threads had worn away so it wasn't connecting well enough to the battery! Problem solved! That was wonderful to follow your deduction and analysis of the problem. That was amazing that the signal on the Bosch cam shaft sensor was inverted! Production problems at the factory! It was great that the off brand sensor worked! Kudos to you!
@DenHollender
@DenHollender Жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel recently, love it! This is what mechanics is all about. Pinpoint the problem and fix it. Not only fix it, it was fixed after installing the "cheap" sensor, but also find out why the Bosch sensor didn't work as it should. Keep up the good work Dan, you've got a new fan here!
@nigelcox1451
@nigelcox1451 2 жыл бұрын
Present the video to Bosch and ask for a contribution. Right now, all your viewers are plannign to avoid Bosch parts. A poor response from them reinforces this decision. A good response from them could undo the damage, and repair their reputation. Are they wired wrong, or are there two different ones, and the wrong one is listed for this vehicle?
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
It could be that this sensor works on another model! But this one is listed in the catalog
@fascistpedant758
@fascistpedant758 2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes once flipped the signal from one MY to the next. If Renault flipped it midyear, you might just have the wrong part. It would be interesting to compare the part numbers listed for the previous and following years.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
What proberbly happens is that Bosch buys these parts for older cars from another party and sticks them in a Bosch packaging without checking.
@raymondhardie3880
@raymondhardie3880 Жыл бұрын
Amazing and so telling of faulty new parts. I have ran into similar problems not only with electrical sensors and switches, but also with mechanical parts that were not properly built and failed to work thereby causing me to go thru different manufacturers of similar parts in order to get a correct working replacement. Thank you for posting this video and identifying a problem which was overly exasperated due to poor quality replacement parts.
@제이씨오토모티브
@제이씨오토모티브 2 жыл бұрын
You're world best mechanic. I've not seen before in KOREA and other country regrding for your exact explanation. Thanks for providing your good resolution process. As you know many people don't open solutions.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@crs1474
@crs1474 Жыл бұрын
Awesome awesome work Dan 👏 not just for the video and work you put in it but also for your generosity in helping the vehicle’s owner. 🙌
@AngelGreiner-i8s
@AngelGreiner-i8s 3 ай бұрын
I was dealing with this exact issue. It drove me nuts and I put so many parts smh. Thanks so much for sharing this info.
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