Long Tube or Short Tube Headers: Which Should You Do? - Exhaust Mods!

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@Bad666Moon
@Bad666Moon 4 жыл бұрын
TLDR Short= more torque, peak hp lower rpm and usually bolt on factory replacement Long= more hp, peak hp higher rpm and usually requires custom exhaust.
@ronniewatts8973
@ronniewatts8973 4 жыл бұрын
do you believe everything you hear on youtube long tube headers provide more torque i challenge you to research that he is obviously not a mechanic
@aladams684
@aladams684 4 жыл бұрын
Here here!! Even on my paltry little 289 the long tubes win. Up top AND down low. Of course low end on my car is around 2200 rpms.
@thenegus5469
@thenegus5469 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronniewatts8973 care to elaborate?
@guy858
@guy858 3 жыл бұрын
NOT true...... at all actually.... you are correct about the custom exhaust though...... and torque numbers will be UP across the entire range
@madgixxer06
@madgixxer06 4 жыл бұрын
All I heard was, MO POWA BABY!!!
@sofakingraw4149
@sofakingraw4149 4 жыл бұрын
madgixxer06 uh mo powa baby
@demonsoldierchem
@demonsoldierchem 4 жыл бұрын
Mo powa baby
@supersport6556
@supersport6556 4 жыл бұрын
MO POWA BABEH !
@rjaybruhh
@rjaybruhh 4 жыл бұрын
*_DONUTS_*
@discosuitDan
@discosuitDan Жыл бұрын
🇺🇲😎
@ootdega
@ootdega 6 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider is the heat from longtube headers. Considering how tightly they often fit, a lot of the time they can lead to melting wires or suspension bushings, or even causing the transmission to overheat. Long tube headers should only really be used in vehicles with a lot of space to work with. Seen several bad reviews of parts because it never occured to them that having the hottest part of your car right next to it might be a bad idea.
@brendanyazzie2774
@brendanyazzie2774 2 жыл бұрын
Header wraps can easily combat this if you dont live in humid areas
@Meekmillan
@Meekmillan Жыл бұрын
@@brendanyazzie2774 or mind getting that shit all over you 😂 Working with wraps are as bad as insulation lol
@brendanyazzie2774
@brendanyazzie2774 Жыл бұрын
@@Meekmillan fiber glass sucks. wear good PPE
@johnsheetz6639
@johnsheetz6639 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the nightmare install on most! I cheaped out before and it was not fun and they scraped over everything because they hung too low but they still sounded fuc*in awesome! At least I sounded like the fastest car on the block!
6 жыл бұрын
The difference I have found between long tube and Shorty headers is 5 hp on the top in. And since I like being able to get the transmission out of the car without having to remove the headers that five horse power was made up elsewhere
@aaronramirez9147
@aaronramirez9147 4 жыл бұрын
So is that 5hp extra on the short or long??? U just said the difference between the two is 5ph but didnt state which one holds it
@rustyshaklferd1897
@rustyshaklferd1897 Жыл бұрын
First off, nobody outside of California cares what California says. Everything I’ve ever seen says that it’s known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects. While I still haven’t decided on headers yet it seems fairly consistent that shorties add more power and torque lower in the rpm range while long tubes add power from mid to upper rpm range. I’m still researching to decide which headers are best for me and my car.
@musclebone7875
@musclebone7875 7 жыл бұрын
Long tube headers for me! My big block loves them
@ModernMuscle213
@ModernMuscle213 6 жыл бұрын
👌
@brianw338
@brianw338 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yes
@sam198130
@sam198130 4 жыл бұрын
What size motor u got
@musclebone7875
@musclebone7875 4 жыл бұрын
@@sam198130 496 big block
@dan-ct5gc
@dan-ct5gc 4 жыл бұрын
So u think be good long or short for a 5.7 Commander
@TrackPackRT
@TrackPackRT 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I agree that shorties would be easier to install than long tubes. Just finished installing a set of stainless works long tubes on my car. The fitment was great and they slid right in with no problem or clearance issues. A couple bolts were a little annoying to get at, but those were the same bolts that were annoying to get at when I was taking off the factory log manifolds, and they'd be the same deal with shorties. Install ease I would honestly say is a wash between the 2. Feeling the difference of the long tubes to anyone considering headers and who doesn't have emissions or a lowered car to deal with I would honestly recommend just forgetting about the shorties and go straight to long tube headers. Honestly the difference is insane, my first drive after the header install caught me off guard. Car feels like a totally different machine!
@BD-co3yo
@BD-co3yo 5 жыл бұрын
Track Pack R/T hey thanks for the info, I have a 16 Challenger RT Shaker and I think you just made up my mind for the Longtubes!! Thanks brother
@armadussteel2489
@armadussteel2489 11 ай бұрын
Really depends on the car. My friend's 03 Mitsubishi eclipse has the easiest header to swap out vs my 2011 Ram which would benefit more from the space savings of shorties. It's extremely vehicle dependent on how painful the process will be.
@maldo72
@maldo72 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention long tube headers give a much better exhaust note.
@tycheez85
@tycheez85 5 жыл бұрын
maldo72 exactly
@ronniewatts8973
@ronniewatts8973 4 жыл бұрын
true and hes a little off on the info side about them too check out my post on may 27 2020 i have corrected him
@kylejohnson7258
@kylejohnson7258 Жыл бұрын
Do shorties sounds better than stock manifolds ?
@tennesseeoutdoorsman9103
@tennesseeoutdoorsman9103 6 жыл бұрын
Long tubes might be illegal, ill take 5 sets please
@MARZOSIRUS
@MARZOSIRUS 5 жыл бұрын
If you add 4 high flow universal cats you probably can get away with it.
@topkek7003
@topkek7003 4 жыл бұрын
Breckon Carter in florida they dont do inspection so we dont need cats
@ronniewatts8973
@ronniewatts8973 4 жыл бұрын
@@MARZOSIRUS cats will ruin the power built by the headers theres no point and fyi power upgrades are only illegal in communist run states like colorado and cali so i say screw all commies this is america
@MARZOSIRUS
@MARZOSIRUS 4 жыл бұрын
@@ronniewatts8973 Exactly I was born here in Socal. I have a Crown Vic and Impala SS 95. In order to pass smog I have to have the catalytic converter s. I'll be customizing my exhaust on both within the year. I don't care at all about the sound so I'll use a good muffler to try and muffle as much sound out However best I can. I plan on long tube headers but we'll see. All though California is too expensive and too many rules. It's my home I was born here.
@ronniewatts8973
@ronniewatts8973 4 жыл бұрын
@@MARZOSIRUS well i wish you well if you need some advise mechanically ill be glad to help
@charleslincoln5357
@charleslincoln5357 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I am not looking to build a drag racer so I’m going with shorty as I do not go faster then 120km and stay around 2k rpm and only need the low end boost so my daily can handle its weight easier
@BarnfindGT
@BarnfindGT 6 жыл бұрын
I got shorties on my 5.0 but I'm switching to longtubes in 2 weeks or so
@ModernMuscle213
@ModernMuscle213 6 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@marcozr3138
@marcozr3138 6 жыл бұрын
Why do you feel it has more bottom end torque with the shorties
@bailey9r
@bailey9r 5 жыл бұрын
Because of the dif in spent gas velocity. @@marcozr3138
@marcozr3138
@marcozr3138 5 жыл бұрын
@@bailey9r whats gas velocity and whats the difference between the two
@bailey9r
@bailey9r 5 жыл бұрын
Marco The headers on each side are designed so that each blast of burned gas (referred to as a pulse) creates a vacuum behind it pulling the next pulse along at the collector (the cone where the pipes meet). The length and diameter of the pipes determine the speed of each pulse, generally the larger the pipe the better power BUT at a higher RPM so less off the line. In other words a 1and 7/8 inch pipe would make power suited to a torque motor and a 2 and 1/4 inch pipe would match a high revving cammed beast. @@marcozr3138
@eliinthewolverinestate6729
@eliinthewolverinestate6729 6 жыл бұрын
It really matters about flow. Exhaust scavenging is where the velocity of exhaust creates a small vacuum in the cylinder helping intake and cooling. This is cause by expanding hot gas creating suction out the tail pipe. It matters more the application do you want low end or top end. What about mid lengths?
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 жыл бұрын
the velocity of the exhaust scavenges exhaust gases out of the combustion chamber which is what you want!!!
@rickcorey5908
@rickcorey5908 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old E150 Ford van that I am putting short tubes on, I figure the thing rarely sees 3500 rpm so I don't need the long tubes. I just want more efficiency than the factory manifolds.
@slant6guy
@slant6guy 4 жыл бұрын
Put short tube headers on a daily driven 5.9L v8 MAGNUM in a 1998 Dodge RAM 1500 4x4 along with a low-->midrange Hughes engines camshaft + roller rockers and that woke that underrated Mopar motor right up!
@_JayRamsey_
@_JayRamsey_ 6 жыл бұрын
I have 1⅝" primaries into 2.5" collector shorties with the ceramic coating. They're rusty. :( So glad you didn't start talking about "needing back pressure". Thumbs up from me for the accurate explanation.
@CamaroRick
@CamaroRick 5 жыл бұрын
Long tubes make more power everywhere vs a shorty. 1 7/8 will make more midrange and up power on 500hp+ Vs 1 3/4" long tubes.
@Ka_Gg
@Ka_Gg 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, you seem like a gear head. Look up Rick (or Rich) Holdener and he does a dyno test on shorties vs long tube and you are right. The shorties were better than stock, but the long tubes were better than shorties everywhere.
@drunkenmaster8511
@drunkenmaster8511 6 жыл бұрын
Love these vids, I got JBA shorty Headers on mine.
@ModernMuscle213
@ModernMuscle213 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro 🙏
@hunterlogan2913
@hunterlogan2913 4 жыл бұрын
used JBA shorties too. great bang for $ every which way
@SpiffyUNO
@SpiffyUNO 4 жыл бұрын
@@hunterlogan2913 What type of car do you have? And what changes did you notice.
@SuedeStonn
@SuedeStonn 5 жыл бұрын
If anyone has a 2016 mustang v6 like me, the only CARB shorties I could find are JBA. Will have them and aFe Mach XP catbacks installed this weekend. (K&N Cai already installed and a Bully Dog tuner for good measure.)
@fstompo
@fstompo 5 жыл бұрын
My 5 Gen Camaro loves my bbk headers and x pipe complements the cam beautifully
@jasonmcgraw2933
@jasonmcgraw2933 5 жыл бұрын
Frank Stompanato
@David-yy7lb
@David-yy7lb 4 жыл бұрын
I have Stainless steel long tube headers on my 2002 Chevrolet 6.0 and love them
@testflyer2779
@testflyer2779 3 жыл бұрын
MM- How do long tube headers lower stress on a supercharged engine?
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 2 жыл бұрын
Faster air out..
@sladeballz9349
@sladeballz9349 4 жыл бұрын
Long tubes now. Considering shortys for starter clearance.
@justinbradbury3633
@justinbradbury3633 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what one would work best on a 3100 v6 for my bumb n run car
@MGMotorsports
@MGMotorsports 6 жыл бұрын
6 ads in a 10 minute video.... 🙄
@nicholausstraach458
@nicholausstraach458 6 жыл бұрын
Thank god for add blocker
@BD-co3yo
@BD-co3yo 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Nicholaus I did not have 1ad 👍🏻😎
@raygates6235
@raygates6235 5 жыл бұрын
If you buy your membership to KZbin bread for 7.99 a month You won’t get any ads at all
@project_m3rc64
@project_m3rc64 5 жыл бұрын
I feel that struggle and went for the paid account as I'm a welder
@kekahahawaii8477
@kekahahawaii8477 4 жыл бұрын
Not only not good ruins chain of thought why subscribed to advertisements the whole advertisements on you tube SUCKS
@robnowe5464
@robnowe5464 Жыл бұрын
Looking to step into better and better preformance with fuel economy being the most important and better than OEM performance next. I am wondering if short headers compatible with a turbo/supercharger would be a good first step and then i could choose a turbo or supercharger upgrade later? What is up with upgrades that include BOTH a supercharger and a turbocharger?
@salvatorehayes2753
@salvatorehayes2753 4 жыл бұрын
I Went With Long Tubes On My 06 5.7 Hemi Commander. It Was Either That Or Stock Manifolds lol. No Shorties Available. They Are 1-7/8". Lost Tons Of Power All Over lol. Also Installed A 6.1 Intake. Lost Tons Of Mid And Low End Power. I Think I've Lost About 30HP Overall With My Intake And Exhuast But That Just Tells Me I Freed Up Some Bottle Necks With Port Velocity. I Plan On Putting A Single Turbo And See What It Does. Its A Very "Think Out Side The Box" Turbo Set Up lol.
@BullettGuy
@BullettGuy 6 жыл бұрын
BBK Shorties, Flowmaster mid-pipe with 4 cats, Magnaflow catback, ZEX N2O and a lot more. Jersey here.
@2011italianoboy
@2011italianoboy 5 жыл бұрын
I went with, 1-5/8" short tube headers tuned length, by BBK. They are also polished silver ceramic. The main reason I went with these, is because I live in N.Y. and its a CARB state
@aidanletterese3099
@aidanletterese3099 4 жыл бұрын
2005GT Mustang I have a 07 mustang and I live in NY too how does it sound and do you have a cat back exhaust on it, I’m a little inexperienced when it comes to exhaust.
@2011italianoboy
@2011italianoboy 4 жыл бұрын
@@aidanletterese3099 I have not installed them yet. I was planning on having my friend install them last year, but he got in a bad car accident. It's been on my mind to get it done. I hope soon and I'll get back to you
@Blackcell567
@Blackcell567 Жыл бұрын
Can’t even scroll anymore wo ads restarting your scrolling to the beginning. Long tubes was the way to go for my foxbody. I couldn’t believe the difference it made and actually feel the power vibration under your feet.
@carterhoiland5672
@carterhoiland5672 4 жыл бұрын
is there an in between medium length headers?
@bespinoza66
@bespinoza66 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thank you so much... But I'm still a little confused on the best set up for me at the moment. I have a 2016 gt, auto, with 4.10 gears. So does that mean that I would be better off with short tube headers? Also what size would be the best for that setup? I have a stock exhaust and the only thing I have right now is a roush intake with a 91 tune. Any help would be appreciated.
@randomfootballcars9547
@randomfootballcars9547 6 жыл бұрын
Man I bet you feel up at least 3 times a week with that gearing setup
@LeadStarDude
@LeadStarDude 5 жыл бұрын
If you are putting headers on a newer truck go with shorties for more torque on the low to mid rpm range. No need for long tubes on a truck unless it is for drag racing only.
@ezradegreat
@ezradegreat 5 жыл бұрын
I’m indecisive between short tube or long tube for my 5.7 300c. I plan on getting the 90mm throttle body to go with my already installed K&N intake. Also plan on getting high flow cats along with a decent cat back exhaust. I feel like I know a lot about cars but I’m not the most educated in this area. Any help or advice would be highly appreciated!!
@PawlDunken
@PawlDunken 5 жыл бұрын
Sound like the setup I have in mind for my 06 charger R/T
@FerRod2113
@FerRod2113 5 жыл бұрын
For the V6 guys, If you want your V6 to sound like Chewbacca taking a shit, go with long tube headers and enjoy your 10 hp but everyone roasting your exhaust. If you want to make it sound good with a deep throaty tone and gain a bit of mid range torque, go with shorties. And before you get ass tickled, I had both set ups on my car. Longtubes with off-road x pipe and it sounded horrible when it passed 2k rpms.
@wahiawabound808
@wahiawabound808 7 жыл бұрын
my 6 gen camaro adores the kooks 1 7/8 longtubes and remember IF IT AIN'T LONG IT AIN'T STRONG 😂😂😂🤙🤙.
@ModernMuscle213
@ModernMuscle213 6 жыл бұрын
🤙
@first5knitro473
@first5knitro473 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something your ex said before sex
@wahiawabound808
@wahiawabound808 4 жыл бұрын
@Mikeman Jordan nope long's make more power on and off the dyno.
@wahiawabound808
@wahiawabound808 4 жыл бұрын
@Mikeman Jordan nope mines is n/a and its just fine. besides you'll take off strong and by the time midrange comes around the tables will start to turn putting long tube headers at the finish line lol😂😂😭👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@wahiawabound808
@wahiawabound808 4 жыл бұрын
@Mikeman Jordan nope just get long tubes and join the long schlong crew😂😂😭😭👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 you'll be happier i promise.
@kingsupra5023
@kingsupra5023 Жыл бұрын
​ Yukon 5.3 v8 2008 with zr1 cam What would you installing cold air intake +long tube headers or short tube headers? Thanks a lot uncle
@joshkrause2977
@joshkrause2977 Жыл бұрын
Long tube headers offer more torque and hp through the entire rpm range. Shorties are better then stock but not as good at any rpm as long tubes. You left out exhaust pulse benefits that shorties don’t offer. Also the collector tube plays a role as well. Lengthening the tubes raises the portion of the curve below peak and reduces the portion above peak torque; shortening them has the reverse effect.
@tcz7742
@tcz7742 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a long tube ceramic headers on my 1970 El Camino with a 350 conventionally aspirated. I hope It's a good choice.
@rahsaun1
@rahsaun1 8 ай бұрын
Was it a good choice?
@rayjon342
@rayjon342 4 жыл бұрын
Im running hedmens longtubes with no cats no mufflers just straight pipe with 3" to turn downs
@elisnell7605
@elisnell7605 5 жыл бұрын
My Toyota corolla makes a scraping noise after adding the long ones
@low87dawg86
@low87dawg86 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ronniewatts8973
@ronniewatts8973 4 жыл бұрын
thats because it is too low for them long tube headers sit lower they run better but sit low so that will happen if the car is slammed
@PissDrunxVato
@PissDrunxVato 4 жыл бұрын
Long tubes on a Corolla 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️😂😂😂😂😂
@miltonvonahnen6225
@miltonvonahnen6225 4 жыл бұрын
Good thing I am doing a Supercharger! Long Tube Headers here we come!
@Regalia157
@Regalia157 4 жыл бұрын
Can any 1 enlighten me on how long headers are bad for turbo charger?
@SuperSstealth
@SuperSstealth 3 жыл бұрын
@@Regalia157 size restrictions, unless you want the turbo midway down the car you would need shorter exhaust piping to keep the turbo in the engine bay
@Miamiboi305
@Miamiboi305 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was the opposite I’ve always seen long tube give back torque in the low range of high reving motor that rely on power up top. I’ve always heard shorties rob bottom end to allow for a fast flow for high revs.
@rickyfargason8859
@rickyfargason8859 6 жыл бұрын
Shorties for a turbo? Turbos have a completely different type of header than these. Turbo headers turn back toward the front joining into a turbo/intercooler.
@livingfastdyingfun
@livingfastdyingfun 5 жыл бұрын
Intercoolers are for cooling intake air not exhaust
@robertomorales5347
@robertomorales5347 Жыл бұрын
i just want a better sound than stock with no cats, are shorties a god option?
@ericj3666
@ericj3666 5 жыл бұрын
what exact header is best for 5.3 the older ones around 2001 and wat quarter inch piping
@gx7857
@gx7857 4 жыл бұрын
Xavier Gaynair pacesetter 2266
@aaronchustz8531
@aaronchustz8531 10 ай бұрын
Headers that cool faster, moves air slower. The best coatings keep the heat in the headers for faster air speed.
@prushimush
@prushimush 6 жыл бұрын
I opted for stainless shorty headers on my Foxbody. Long tubes are a pain in the ass to install and work around. Exhaust work in general makes my knuckles bleed, and sometimes I'll curse loudly in my driveway. Don't need any more of that. Foxbody cars are generally very simple and even these cars will give you headaches with steering shaft clearance and general fitment, I imagine they must be even worse on a newer chassis. Long tubes sound nice, though, and give a modest torque boost across most of the range, so they are ideal if you can handle the drawbacks.
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 6 жыл бұрын
I went from shorties to longtubes on a warmed up 88 5.0 HO, it felt like I added over 50 Hp. Clearance is an issue.
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 4 жыл бұрын
@Big Tex Hooker headers made specifically for the WORLD heads. It was the only option with these heads in long equal length headers. The collector size was the real difference in my opinion. That stupid ball joint is just too small. I think shorties may work well with larger collectors.
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 4 жыл бұрын
@TetoBarraza The shorties sounded ok to an uninformed observer but it was obvious to me that it needed better flow. Much louder with equal length long tubes but not just louder, sounded right. Like Carroll would have done in the 60s.
@Blackcell567
@Blackcell567 Жыл бұрын
On my 83gt and 89 lx the long tubes was best. I used headman headers. Custom made x pipe flow master cat back. You could feel the power the long tubes gave it, car ran cooler. I did have to adjust my timing and retune for the long tube upgrade but it was worth it. It definitely turned heads stock and cammed . Hope this helps someone.
@julianoliva2850
@julianoliva2850 4 жыл бұрын
I'm upgrading a 2011 chevy colorado 2.9L so what do u suggest buddies? I already put a high performance shift kit to the transmission and a posi track lock unit to the rearend
@nazfan01
@nazfan01 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 Dodge Charger R/T AWD Hemi 5.7L. (Only has 31,000 miles on it) I am looking at BBK shorty either in chrome or stainless. Not sure which I want. (Recommendation please) Anyway, I figured the long tube would be too tight. and not worth risking extra heat from the exhaust. I already had installed a DynaFlow muffler with that nice "deep mellow" sound. I just want to install headers for that better airflow over the factory headers that has a much more restrictive flow.. I installed a fiberglass SRT8 hood. So with that said, I then installed a Mopar cold air intake and that has been a much nicer ride with just that alone
@saulrivera1448
@saulrivera1448 5 жыл бұрын
This video had really great information. I learned so much and its helping shape my decision on which headers and coatings to finally go with. Thanks!!!
@matton36
@matton36 3 жыл бұрын
Most of what he told you isnt true. Do more research
@charlesstevenson1238
@charlesstevenson1238 2 жыл бұрын
Will long tube headers off of a gbody Monte Carlo fit my 2000s10blazer with my 350
@scottsv96
@scottsv96 5 ай бұрын
Should I go short tube on my ls3 holden?
@Chuckles9191991
@Chuckles9191991 3 жыл бұрын
My 67 GTO loves the long tube, as I have dual Super Chargers.
@ricardocorrea5793
@ricardocorrea5793 Жыл бұрын
Which are better for centrifugal superchargers?
@37oH55V
@37oH55V 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t short tubes benefit all forced induction motors? Boost is just a measurement for restriction. I understand the theory for turbo vehicles. I’ve never had a turbo charged vehicle except for a diesel pickup but I’ve had 2 supercharged vehicles an 02 lighting and an 04 cobra. I lost a pound of boost on my lighting when I put long tubes on it. I’ve also noticed that a lot of overhead cam motors that do not have variable valve timing do not respond well to long tubes.
@matthewboggs4639
@matthewboggs4639 4 жыл бұрын
Short tubes producing more torque is an idiotic myth. Long tubes out perform short tubes in areas of the rpm range.
@larryboatman7468
@larryboatman7468 6 жыл бұрын
My supercharger on my 2001 Chevy Silverado love my long tube hedder they are ceramic pace setters, amongst other things.
@ivannunez6430
@ivannunez6430 4 жыл бұрын
What headers do you have ? I have an SS looking to buy her some headers
@Kevin_Yagoonie
@Kevin_Yagoonie 4 жыл бұрын
@@ivannunez6430 speed engineering makes a nice set at a great price
@Daniel-yb3hn
@Daniel-yb3hn 3 жыл бұрын
Is titanium wrapping worth it for long tubes???
@connellfarm315
@connellfarm315 3 жыл бұрын
This was good information. It help answer alot of my questions. Thank you
@demonwaker22
@demonwaker22 5 жыл бұрын
So for a vehicle being built to haul and tow overland, from this im gathering i should use short tube headers?
@Ka_Gg
@Ka_Gg 4 жыл бұрын
eh, Im searching this right now and based on the dyno tests ive seen, the long tubes are better everywhere.
@andrewliebhaber1020
@andrewliebhaber1020 4 жыл бұрын
Does long tubes make the truck run loader? I've heard mixed things
@sinisterpage6229
@sinisterpage6229 6 жыл бұрын
Grate video I learned something for when i put a 302 in my truck thank you ,but back pressure is nonsense. Proving by Engine Master's and drag cars look at pro mods or even street cars.
@512bb
@512bb 3 жыл бұрын
180 degree headers were my only choice for my Pantera, if I wanted long tubes. Looked, sounded & performed great. Living with them sucked, off they came & don't regret it one bit.
@cmj115
@cmj115 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2001 base model c5. Thinking of doing kooks short tube headers, catted xpipe, and no mufflers. I assume I should go with 1 3/4"? Also does anyone have any recommendations for axel back straight pipes? Lots of performance muffler options, but I'd really like to go straight.
@Costar1982
@Costar1982 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 chrysler 300 sport Hemi... Which one is better for my car i want all around power but dont kno which one to choose helppppp
@donquixote8924
@donquixote8924 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 Dodge Magnum RT 5.7 Liter with a Magnaflow High-flow Catalytic converter and a Borla ATTAK cat-back exhaust system. Can anyone recommend which one (Long or Short tube) I should go with? I also live in Texas....
@DanielRodriguez-xg4go
@DanielRodriguez-xg4go 5 жыл бұрын
Short tube since you have high flow cats
@mrelectron6220
@mrelectron6220 5 жыл бұрын
Long tube or don't bother you're not going to gain 20hp or more with shorties. Th
@dyers1210
@dyers1210 5 жыл бұрын
what if im not looking for more horse power but a better sound.
@mrelectron6220
@mrelectron6220 5 жыл бұрын
than change your mufflers
@TheMcooper17
@TheMcooper17 6 жыл бұрын
i got a turbo so options limited
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer: If you want maximum power, get long tube headers if possible.
@donaldhollingsworth3875
@donaldhollingsworth3875 4 жыл бұрын
You can only install short tube headers because of clearance problems & they will bolt onto the factory Y pipe. The main problem with installing any type of headers on any late model car or truck is the number & placement of the oxygen sensors.
@gointhruaphase
@gointhruaphase 5 жыл бұрын
so low to mid range power such as a 4WD truck would benefit more from shorties?
@Shutchohole
@Shutchohole 5 жыл бұрын
Assuming you're staying in low to mid range RPMs.
@DeLonghe_P_Ness
@DeLonghe_P_Ness 6 жыл бұрын
Stainless Works long tubes on my Crown Vic...I get to pick it up when JPC Racing is finished with it.
@Jason-ft9gg
@Jason-ft9gg 6 жыл бұрын
How much did you pay for the installation labor?
@coolcraigcooley
@coolcraigcooley 5 жыл бұрын
Jayson, I paid $500.00 for the installation on my 2002 Corvette. I purchased Kooks long tube headers, Kooks off~road cat~less X~pipe, and TMP Billy Boat exhaust, and OMG... It was like having a brand new car, and especially with all the compliments everywhere i go... There are so much fun, I can't help myself from pushing the clutch in and punching the gas every time i go under a non populated overpass... LOL... It's also like having a second horn, but way cooler... 😎😎😎
@rjaybruhh
@rjaybruhh 4 жыл бұрын
*_What happens if you run open headers?_*
@gzapollo5460
@gzapollo5460 3 жыл бұрын
What should I get for my 03 gt mustang?
@adampinczesgarageandfabric9930
@adampinczesgarageandfabric9930 4 жыл бұрын
i'm building the third option not mentioned. tri Y headers provide a scavenging effect at low rpm's think of it like having 6 X pipes on your v8. better than a shorty at low to mid range. good luck finding them though best bet is make them yourself.
@ahdnaji
@ahdnaji 6 жыл бұрын
What would you use on a small NA 4 cylinder engine? and would it boost or free up power more efficiently? p.s working on a small hatchback with a 1.5L naturally aspirated engine as a project at the moment.
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 жыл бұрын
long tubes if you can fget them,i.5 litre should rev higher.
@mrsantosjon
@mrsantosjon 4 жыл бұрын
shorty headers with non resonated test pipe? seems like long tubes to me
@rcghalohell
@rcghalohell 6 жыл бұрын
what about shorties with test pipes vs long tubes?
@travyjohnson7891
@travyjohnson7891 4 жыл бұрын
My 94 f150 loves its long tubes. My 02 f150 has shortys n I’m not a big fan of them. Besides the fact they where a b**ch to install
@raimondsromanovskis6630
@raimondsromanovskis6630 6 жыл бұрын
can You make dayno test on long and short one howe mutc will be differenc on one engine
@stevenkinnison8044
@stevenkinnison8044 3 жыл бұрын
I'm putting a set of shorty headers on a bone stock 2002 Chevy Suburban with a 5.3L engine.
@terrywalker9092
@terrywalker9092 3 жыл бұрын
Think I would benefit from shorty headers. Not looking for max hp gains as so many of you are. But if you're next to me at a stoplight, you will never see what your longtubes are suppose to do! Just remember as a friend of mine found out with a 900 hp S550 gt . There is always someone faster!
@MrMr123
@MrMr123 5 жыл бұрын
What would you put into a 2003 Ford F-150 Harley Davidson super charged ?
@a29s12
@a29s12 5 жыл бұрын
Long tubes with ceramic coating Catted x pipe Borla stingers or atak
@Meinstein
@Meinstein 5 жыл бұрын
Can't do either. Nearest tune shop is 100 miles away.
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 жыл бұрын
dont have a socket set and some skillz?
@Meinstein
@Meinstein 5 жыл бұрын
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 Yes but once you change the way it breathes on one end, you have to change the intake as well. Then you need a professional tune shop to reprogram it's ECM.. or buy the equipment and do it yourself. Not gonna bother. My GTO runs fine stock. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@brandonrickbornponyexpress6574
@brandonrickbornponyexpress6574 21 күн бұрын
​@Meinstein wow 100 miles!! That's like half way around the world!! These days that takes around 2 hours each way! I've never met anybody that has that much extra time in their life. Unreal.
@DanneyTanner
@DanneyTanner 4 жыл бұрын
I still dont know why they make long tubes closer to the ground when they dont need to be.
@dennistv598
@dennistv598 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2003 Toyota Tundra limited 4.7 liter v8 I don’t know what to choose long tube headers or short tube headers
@naturesadventures909
@naturesadventures909 6 жыл бұрын
Shorties! I have a gen 1 Toyota and I put JBA Shorty's on with Cat-Back Flowmaster 40 series. It made a huge difference in performance and I get a few extra miles on the gas as well.
@coolcraigcooley
@coolcraigcooley 5 жыл бұрын
More power with the longer tube headers though... JS...
@edwardabrahamiii3742
@edwardabrahamiii3742 4 жыл бұрын
Me personally id go with naturally aspirated engines so i prefer long exhaust pipes but if the engine is reliable enough for the turbo then ill taje short exhaust pipes
@alikdouh369
@alikdouh369 Жыл бұрын
I need headers for Toyota Corolla 2014 zre 182 hatchback
@embraceblack53
@embraceblack53 5 жыл бұрын
not sure with my 15' Challenger R/t. Nothing much on the stock top end
@MrEvilTag
@MrEvilTag 5 жыл бұрын
Long tube and 392 cam will fix your top end problem
@embraceblack53
@embraceblack53 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrEvilTag ok cool
@michaelburas4560
@michaelburas4560 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative vid. I have been trying to decide on the best exhaust upgrade to my C7 Grand Sport. This has made my decision pretty clear as to which/what setup to go with. Keep up the detailed vids coming.
@TrumpUSA1959
@TrumpUSA1959 5 жыл бұрын
What did you go with? I too have a newer C7. Thanks!
@billshiff2060
@billshiff2060 Жыл бұрын
There are only 2 kinds of exhaust header. 1 Tuned headers that deliver performance according to the design. 2 Manifolds whether cast or tubular that simply conduct the exhaust out to the rest of the exhaust system. Short tube "headers" are not tuned in any way. They function as simple pipes.
@brandonwillis4811
@brandonwillis4811 3 жыл бұрын
Do one for equal length vs unequal length headers.
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 4 жыл бұрын
Considering you rarely use RPMs higher than 4000 for any reasonable amount of time on the street and sometimes not even on the racetrack, where you have to get slow down and accelerate up to speed oh, a lot of that low end torque and horsepower is quite usable with Shorty headers. Which, in my experience give you all but that last little bit of very high-end performance with long tube headers. But you lose everything else for that little bit at the top end. Shorty headers have come a long way. What was really strange back in the late 60s early 70s is people would buy the big block Chryslers with those really strange-looking exhaust manifolds and take them off and put long tube headers on them and make less horsepower. Because there was no thought put into the design of the headers. It took a while for designed headers to actually come to fruition.
@jmc1127
@jmc1127 6 жыл бұрын
As a new subscriber, I'm glad I found your channel. I'm about to take my 96 f150 and start a new project. Look forward to checking out your archive. Thanks.
@necstanunn
@necstanunn 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you did this video... hopefully your research has helped you on your decision. *cough long tube cough* *cough nitrous cough* I know you'll probably go shorty... if you do, you need to gander at Gibson, JBA, and BBK.
@ModernMuscle213
@ModernMuscle213 6 жыл бұрын
Lol I pulled over for downshifting too loudly 🤬 I have emissions testing in March. Should be a good upload but I am seriously considering long tubes after that nightmare is over
@necstanunn
@necstanunn 6 жыл бұрын
Modern Muscle213 well kooks will be the way to go. Good luck on emissions. Once you do long tubes, make sure you do non foulers for the rear o2 sensors so it don't trip a code. And fill it with steel wool to create a slight "filter"
@darrellsyrnyk6875
@darrellsyrnyk6875 4 жыл бұрын
Long tube for my RAM with Hemi
@mannytiburcio2122
@mannytiburcio2122 5 жыл бұрын
I have an inline 4 what do set do yall recommend
@huntervedo6208
@huntervedo6208 5 жыл бұрын
none
@bigdgreene2677
@bigdgreene2677 4 жыл бұрын
@@huntervedo6208 lol
@josephmiller5152
@josephmiller5152 4 жыл бұрын
Shorty if you want to boost it
@MrMopar239
@MrMopar239 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephmiller5152 you would need a turbo manifold and would use a short or long tube to begin with.
@jamesmckenzie3433
@jamesmckenzie3433 4 жыл бұрын
NOTHING BEATS A HI DURATION CAM MOTOR FOR THAT RASPY THROATY SOUND 🏁
@rjaybruhh
@rjaybruhh 4 жыл бұрын
*_Less Bends = MORE POWER_*
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