Amazing Precision, The Swan Neck Regulator-Watch and Learn #67

In today's episode of watch and learn, we will discuss the Swan Neck regulator. This cool little gadget allows movements to be tuned with amazing precision.
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[@emptyMan0]

Great explanation Marc! The swan neck has one more advantage - bumping your watch against something cannot change the speed of the watch.

[@AlanHearnshaw]

I sure wish more watches had this kind of setup!

[@islandwatch]

Me too.

[@robertkelly3357]

Definitely. But if they did, we’d probably all have COSC level watches! LOL

[@NatiiixLP]

​@@robertkelly3357, Wouldn't that be a good thing, though? It would force the Swiss giants to try harder and actually improve instead of selling essentially the same exact products for decades.

[@jameswilson8907]

​@@NatiiixLPtoo bad the cosc requirements aren't really that impressive, I feel that any modern movement should be able to regulate within -4/+6 if done by hand, and the swiss made requirement is really just there to stroke themselves like normal.

[@wizkid3295]

Which one is the better one ?

[@dgdave2673]

Recently got a 1963 with the swan neck regulator. Out of the box, I am amazed how accurate this watch has kept time being fast only by 4 secs over 24 hours. Honestly had couple of Omegas that were 4 to 5 secs faster in a day. Seems like I got lucky or Seagull really does a good QC job.

[@NiroshanGunaratne]

We watch geeks have heard these words many times and sometimes never know what it is exactly. Simple fix but makes a big change. Thanks Mark! 👍🏼

[@sylversyrfer6894]

That was such a good explanation! I really feel like I have a better understanding now of the swan’s neck regulator. Thank you!! Really appreciate it!!

[@garyp432]

I now know whst a swan regulator is and actually does to regulate a watches movement.

[@islandwatch]

Then I've done my job!

[@s3077769]

I wanted to know what a swan neck regulator is and now I do, but I think I need to learn more about regulators. My watch has a wood pecker regulator

[@NonyaDamnbusiness]

Fascinating. I know my Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical has an ETA movement with a screw adjust that was very, very easy to regulate versus all of my other watches, but I've never seen the "Swan Neck" device until now.

[@islandwatch]

Similar, but this is even finer adjustment.

[@diydad7704]

Great video, wonderful explanation. If i didn't live in the EU, you'd be my number one watch dealer because of the added value you deliver with these videos. 👍👍👍

[@uksquall]

A Swaaaarns Neck. Great vid was looking for the distinction between these two.

[@JustOnlyOnePiece]

In short more control and more precise adjustments. Great idea. All watches in this category should just come with these.

[@GForrestGardner]

I have many American made pocket watches from the early 1900 's and a lot of them had this adjustment. It was called a micrometric regulator.

[@brookslide4692]

Really enjoy your videos. Swan's neck should be standard on high-end movements, but alas...

[@islandwatch]

;)

[@Keeperofthekey13]

Explained with clarity & well worth the look. Finer tuning with less chance of recurrence due to the nature of the Swan neck... Thanks Marc!

[@jmand63]

Thank you Marc for this great video. Your educational background as an engineer (if I do not commit any mistake) mixed with your professionalism, your passion for watches and with a great sense of pedagogy make everyone of your videos fascinating. So often watches "aficionados" only speak about brand segmentation of a specific model or its business value or exclusively about its technical matters that followers either get confused, misinformed or too much focused on one piece of information avoiding the others. With you, we get an objective and complete panoramic view of watchmaking. Great!

[@hgr.7857]

💯

[@ScottBelleriWorkshop]

I always wondered about this! Great explanation, thank you Mark.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@res00xua]

BOUGHT 2 WATCHES FROM YOU IN A WEEK. LOVE YOUR ON LINE STORE AND your videos.

[@fredlarke3806]

great video Mark. I actually regulated a swan neck after watching, and it worked! Thanks much.

[@guillermodorantesbalanzar1359]

Awesome, it's easy to see when someone actually knows what is talking about.

[@kongmw]

Would really love a video series that breaks down every component of an ETA movement and how each of them makes the movement work.

[@islandwatch]

Sounds like a mini-series :)

[@jefferyneu3915]

ThNk you Marc. I knew the swan neck was a good thing, but didn’t understand why. I really appreciate your watch and learn videos!😍

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for watching

[@marekzygowski3905]

Hi Marc, how about a W&L episode explaining the co-axial escapement? Seems no one can get it clear enough...

[@jayroland9481]

George Daniels did 😁

[@Kisara556NATO]

Excellent tutorial in easy-to-understand, layman’s words. I have a Panerai with a swan’s neck regulator. I knew what it looks like, how it got that name... But never knew how it worked or why it was desired. Now I do! Thank you very much and keep up the good work. 👍

[@islandwatch]

Glad you found this useful!

[@getoffmylawn8986]

Amazing, Marc. This science fascinates me.

[@islandwatch]

Coolness. Love science.

[@yasyasmarangoz3577]

Same

[@stevedebbiejackson922]

So enjoyable to watch your videos and gain knowledge into this passion we all share. Thank you so much!

[@islandwatch]

You are very welcome.

[@arjunaugarow]

Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I always enjoy them and learn something. It's also how I found your online store and have been very satisfied with my purchases.

[@jeremysmith9696]

Like Geddy Lee sings in "Vital Signs" "Everybody go to evelate from the norm" :-)

[@nu1x]

"Energate" best new word I learned today.

[@johnatkinson5693]

Have one it's 1 to 2 seconds a day,so won't be trying to improve it,Great watch the Seagull 1963.

[@jboomhauer]

Great video. To the point and informative. ❤

[@michaelwalter7879]

I am about to decide on a ST1908 (Seagull) chronograph with this unique feature, usually only found in older pocket watches. For some reason most ST1908 do NOT have this adjustment, only a handful stores (e.g. Sugess, Seakoss) explicitly offer these watches, around $200 shipped. Even worse: those who do use this feature have a ridiculous minute counter scale (in 5min increments, so the minute hand hits between markers at almost any minute). I guess the Chinese haven't really figured out watchmaking after all these years... Usually I do adjust my mechanical watches on the bench (using smartphone software to check the BPH). Many watches are poorly adjusted and can be significantly improved by fixing their speed error. Fractions of a degree will make HUGE differences, but patience and a calm hand will do wonders. I got even the cheapest watches (e.g. the Luch monotimer 1801) down to +4s/day. And a Nesun "carousel" (ST1201 semi tourbillon) down to 0.0 (!) this way - the beast ran for several months without losing/gaining a single minute! WIth gooseneck control this adjustment procedure would be definitely simpler and less of a guess work. So I have to decide: super precise adjustment or precise and useful stop watch scales on my new ST1908. Thanks for demonstrating how to get to the tiny screw on the side! I was wondering if gooseneck watches need to be uncased to get to this weird screw position - it would have made little sense. Now it does!

[@StagnantMizu]

Is the watch worth it? About to order the pilot moonphase chronograph from seguss

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

One of the best watch KZbin channels out there!! Thank you Mark.

[@niallvbrennan6629]

Very interesting and useful video. Thank you,Mark

[@islandwatch]

Welcome!

[@wasimjaan3300]

I love that wall clock,

[@islandwatch]

Thanks.

[@musobri]

Very clear, thankyou.

[@jbbrabant]

Great video! I’ve learned something worthwhile today. Thanks

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@paulx7620]

Really cool thanks Marc!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@totisanchez3607]

Thing I learned today thank you Mark!

[@islandwatch]

TIL, thank you!

[@dociebiemowie915]

Love the Orient brand. Best deal in the watch industry IMO.

[@haroldwiser2641]

Very informative video, thanks Marc!

[@islandwatch]

Thank you.

[@TennesseeMike]

Love the way you break things down. Good video.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks.

[@ramoncastro7152]

Great video Mark! I learn something new with each watch and learn. Thanks!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@antcif]

Great video. Very informative. Wish Orient still made those divers though.

[@islandwatch]

Which divers?

[@antcif]

Long Island Watch the 100m that you showcased at the beginning of the video.

[@kendesjarlais7577]

Long Island Watch Marc , I bought an orient Polaris!! Tell me I made a good choice lol. So far I’m digging it

[@danield6815]

The best is the free sprung !

[@Andrew-J316]

Excellent lesson! Thank you for that!

[@islandwatch]

Welcome.

[@carllange3950]

My 1917 Hamilton pocket watch has one.

[@mikelob6707]

Dude, awesome explanation, many thanks

[@Lorenzodial]

Just what I was looking for thanks

[@jacc88888]

Extremely helpful. Thanks.

[@travr6]

Apparently I bought a parts bin 1963 but I bought it directly from sugess. I have watched like 10 other videos of this watch and only one had the swans neck.

[@steven3379]

Great video thank you Marc!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks.

[@JDDD33]

Wow! Fantastic video Mark, well done!! I've been trying to work out what regulating mechanism my Grand Seiko watch has with its 9S86 movement and are inching closer... this isn't it, but good to learn along the way

[@tomelifeisjustonebig]

Fantastic explanation.

[@Greg_de_Toulouse]

Great explanation, many thanks for it !

[@michaelmoraga85]

Great video! thank you!

[@bubbab7792]

Thanx for the tutorial Marc! 👍🥃

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

Very cool video. Keep up the good work.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks. Will do.

[@Pindi44]

I learnt something new, thanks. Well made video.

[@lukepinto2307]

Nice video Marc. For those interested It is called the Reed Regulator invented by an American George Reed, I have never seen one on an American pocket watch oddly used by all the Big Swiss brands. Swan neck regulators are common on high end watches for a very long time. By far the most unique and ingenious regulators you will ever find are on American pocket watches. Just when you think you've seen them all you will see the next on an American pocket watch. The only Swiss designed regulator that is simply unique is the Charles Rosat designed precision chronometer regulator found on high grade Zenith pocket watches.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks Luke!

[@mytreesloth]

Great explanation, ty

[@itsalgud1459]

Thanks, Marc, be been wondering how that works.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for watching.

[@86mstar]

March 14 2020. Just got my Seagull 1963 from Long island watch today, I bought the black dial and it looks amazing. On a side note it does not have a "Swan Neck Regulator". Not a deal breaker but I was a little bit disappointed.

[@letsbefrank3]

Very clever solution. I'm surprised that more movements don't simply extend the post as far as possible though as a cost-effective solution. Why make it so short? Have been working my way through all of the W&Ls this week. Really good videos. Thanks so much

[@setheloe7090]

If the post is longer, there is more mass to get jostled around, so small impacts could speed up or slow down your watch more easily.

[@msbrownbeast]

Great video. Very informative.

[@TheWayofGrace89]

Amazing channel content

[@islandwatch]

Many thanks.

[@tjwright]

I wish all movements had this. It's hard to explain how tiny of a movement it takes to swing the spd by 10 seconds or more. I've had times I pushed a bit and thought I didn't even move it at all and I did move it enough to gain or lose 3 or 4 spd. With the screw it would be SOOOOOOO much easier.

[@joexg50]

Interesting and I did enjoyed it!!

[@islandwatch]

Great, thank you!

[@SirBeauJangles]

I want mine ALL to have one of these!

[@artswri]

Great info

[@williamhill7312]

Excellent video

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!!!

[@patrickmooney4135]

Yeah, that was cool. Fascinating stuff. You just forced me to follow you on Instagram. I surrender. LOL Thanks, Mark!

[@islandwatch]

Haha, gotcha!

[@20thcenturyboy85]

Awesome Vid! Thanks!

[@Yos115]

Very informative thanks

[@ellabayforever]

excellent explanation ...thank you

[@islandwatch]

You are welcome.

[@leonardohunter1636]

Thanks you 👏👏👏

[@SmolStufff]

This is pretty awesome. Are there any more affordable watches that take advantage of this at all? Edit: And are there any other ways to make regulating a watch easier and more precise?

[@adriansolis9045]

A way to regulate a watch with no tools is to write down how far off the watch is in different positions. For example say you watch runs fast +6s a day face up. And it runs -5s face down. So if you change positions when you dont use the watch (while it's still running) you can have an even accurate time piece.

[@islandwatch]

Yes, there are double swans. Also, you have watches like ETA that use an eccentric screw.

[@howard2501]

affordable watches that take advantage of this: Yes, some seagull 1963 variants do, you'll have to check the individual listings to see which though.

[@gorkajames6475]

Yes, Sugess.

[@jazzman5598]

Great vid!

[@BernardManansala]

I think there's a vintage Grand Seiko, or was it King Seiko, that uses something similar AND on top of that you can regulate it without removing the case back. The adjustment screw is hidden between the lugs.

[@islandwatch]

That's super cool!

[@SuperFlatrock]

It is worth having. Otherwise, you risk slipping the screwdriver and ruining the hairspring, and It is also very difficult to get the optimum accuracy adjustment.

[@yasyasmarangoz3577]

Thx Marc!

[@novocastrian_8387]

Sweet got my sugess B homage back to +2 secs a day. Thnx mark from long Island watches. If my gorilla hands can finesse the Swan neck anyone can ✌️

[@dealzguyYT]

I have a Segull 1963 on its way to me with the Swan Neck Regulator

[@Bernardo-xf4dp]

Excellent !!!

[@cicco1838]

Wow its so amazing work bro thank you so much for video..

[@kevinslegg1576]

Nice video and explanation 👍

[@georgegarcia566]

Great video

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@igorcabrera8123]

ST1901 movement

[@robertkelly3357]

Great video!

[@alek3827]

How common is this swan regulator being use in watch movements? Do they used more in expensive movements?

[@islandwatch]

It is mostly in expensive movements.

[@philips170t]

I am getting one without the gooseneck thingy. It’s more authentic to the first release version.

[@jeanlefranc3817]

Nobody does it like Marc.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@pttb]

Nice Marc. From Korea 🇰🇷

[@anonymousgeorge4321]

Good one. Thanks

[@islandwatch]

You are welcome

[@Danieloncarevic]

Are those both Seagulls 1963? Could you list the movements to know which one has a swan neck regulator? Tnx.

[@ARCIPRETT77]

If you want to buy them from aliexpress, there will be the 2 versions that he is showing in most cases. The one with the swan neck is a bit more expensive.

[@SuperFlatrock]

It can be tough to get the screw to move clockwise because you are pushing against the spring.

[@billcosgrave6232]

Great info!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@jasonmorris2813]

What a great idea!!! 🦢 Neck rules

[@surfitli]

Very interesting. First thing me I heard of a swan neck regulater was in a video about the Zodiac Super Sea Wolf. They use an STP 3-13, which has a swan neck regulator.

[@islandwatch]

Cool!

[@travelingtrex4897]

May I ask which Seagull has the swan neck?

[@howard2501]

The answer is: some of them :D

[@john-carlosynostroza]

that Orient looks like a really nice blue. You know, I have an expensive watch... Well, a few thousand pre-owned... The company name also starts with an O... I got to say, I like my Orient Ray II on a black Barton rubber strap as much, or, dare I say, more... The expensive one, LOL, is about + 5 a day, not bad. The Orient Ray II is plus one a day... Has hacking, has manual wind pair.. Upgrade the bracelet and you are all set. Organic great luck with a rubber strap if you can't afford to strapcode. Good thing is, Mark sells all this stuff including his customized versions which are amazing. I don't work for Mark or have any incentive other than the fact that he sells Orient and they are pretty Kick-Ass. For four hundred bucks you got to watch that can shoot out a lot of watches 10 times the price. Unless, of course, you are looking for the whole, is that a Rolex or Omega or whatever thing.... They are great watches but you know what I mean. I hardly where are the Omega because I hate when people ask me about it unless they are watch fans. They usually just say, wow, how much was that? Awkward... When they point out the Orient, which they do equally to the Omega, they say, nice watch... I say, under two hundred bucks out the door. for some reason, they always seemed disappointed...

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for the insight ;)

[@Knapweed]

You explained this like a champ, however, is the Sea-gull movement accurate enough to justify a swan neck regulator?