What is a perpetual calendar watch? Watch and Learn #13

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Long Island Watch

Long Island Watch

Күн бұрын

In today's episode of Watch and Learn, we dive into perpetual calendars. This neat little function keeps the date on track all year for you, so you don't to adjust the date from month to month. Additionally, it will keep track of the leap year, even adjusting for the inclusion of February 29th every four years.
We also briefly discuss why leap years are necessary, but also not quite as well known, that some years which should be leap years will not be.
To see watches and clocks with perpetual calendars, check out the selection on our website at: longislandwatc...

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@RandomRobReviews
@RandomRobReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Watch and learn is great series. Thank you so much for making these Marc. You are truly an asset to the Watch community.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Gracias!
@djzrobzombie2813
@djzrobzombie2813 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob you are everywhere lol 😹
@Davitamon76
@Davitamon76 7 жыл бұрын
Love this series. Cup of coffee, sit back and just watch and learn.....There's is always something I didn't know before or wants me to read about/research further. Great episode! Also, looking forward to the review on the SPC131P1. Thanks!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
It's already shot! Will come out next week. Get the coffee maker ready!
@JunkfoodZombieGuns
@JunkfoodZombieGuns 6 жыл бұрын
So, you are saying that my perpetual calendar watch still needs to be reset by hand every 100 years? What is this garbage I'm spending my money on?! 🤣
@TheRealMafoo
@TheRealMafoo 5 жыл бұрын
If that's something you just can't live with, try a radio or GPS controlled model. I would go GPS, as I doubt the radio signal will still be broadcasting in 81 years :)
@alexlo7708
@alexlo7708 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealMafoo I don't think so. Yr GPS model'd go void because it might fail to function as old window can't be updated.
@s3077769
@s3077769 4 жыл бұрын
There's another one born every minute. Sucker
@Sparks68
@Sparks68 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Only three times every 400 years. You didn't have to worry about it in 2000 and needn't worry about it in 2400. Hope that helps reduce your anxiety level.
@JunkfoodZombieGuns
@JunkfoodZombieGuns 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sparks68 Well, thank goodness! 😉😁
@Cougar139tweak
@Cougar139tweak 7 жыл бұрын
.....and that boys and girls is how Mark "forces me" to buy another watch :D
@EddyWoon
@EddyWoon 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Love the look of that Seiko. I have a Citizen Eco-drive perpetual calendar & chronograph watch. I never had to set the date again so far after its initial setting up.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
I do like it!
@Ken-dv9uf
@Ken-dv9uf 7 жыл бұрын
Great video..... Thanks for the perpetual calendar watch education!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@nolanreed7090
@nolanreed7090 7 жыл бұрын
This is a great video series. Thanks for doing these!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Watching is appreciated!
@wzk921109
@wzk921109 7 жыл бұрын
Watching your video is super helpful. Especially when there're so many shops in mall selling unknown ridiculously priced brands.
@philipparenteau2184
@philipparenteau2184 7 жыл бұрын
I have 7 excellent watches. I is a Perpetual watch and in the manual, instructions; neither 1 explains the Perpetual Calendar. Thanks Much 4 video.
@FROOB202
@FROOB202 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and oh my... Now I need a perpetual calendar.
@cluemote
@cluemote 7 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting and helpful series, Mark. I can't believe how much stuff you know. Thank you.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
My wife says I'm full of it. I like to think she means watch knowledge!
@evanerka
@evanerka 7 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you for making the videos and I love the Seiko in the video too. I think I found my next watch purchase. Ive always wanted a nice seiko chrono anyway. lol
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Great to hear, thank you!
@jaimerivera2545
@jaimerivera2545 4 жыл бұрын
You’re awesome Marc! Thank you for the info. This watch is great. I would like to see you explaining the technical aspects of high end watches at least now and then. I know you’re very busy, but once in a while!
@jorgedaniel9656
@jorgedaniel9656 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so interesting. I know a thing or two about watches, but I always find out something new in your videos.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Glad, that's why we're doing these.
@merc7paul
@merc7paul 6 жыл бұрын
Just ordered thanks for the video i haven't bought a watch in over 10 years and it just started to bug me today i had to keep changing the day every other month and this even has the day and year and month so it's a huge W :)
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 6 жыл бұрын
Haha! Nice work.
@allisonsmith9050
@allisonsmith9050 Жыл бұрын
your vids are awesome! i have watched (no pun intended) hours and hours of your vids and learned so much.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. Stay tuned!!
@stevebrent52
@stevebrent52 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing these informative videos.
@thisispw
@thisispw 7 жыл бұрын
Seiko SNP039P1 premier kinetic perpetual calendar with leap year correct. Fantastic, as are the other similar models, yes I know its not mechanical, but its a fantastic watch I have had for sometime. Fantastic reviews and information Marc, like your easygoing no nonsense approach. Brilliant.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@michaelvitale4029
@michaelvitale4029 5 жыл бұрын
How could 62 people give this video a 👎 ??? It’s only an explanation of something. There’s no opinion involved. He’s not dissing anyone’s favorite watch. SMH
@bluehorntail28
@bluehorntail28 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing these videos!!.. it's amazing to learn these about watches :)
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Yes it is! One step at a time!
@stevesibaja3123
@stevesibaja3123 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly on Digital Watches for a Example a Casio watch has a Perpetual Calendar with Automatic Year date recognition sets the Date correctly on any year
@krazer808
@krazer808 7 жыл бұрын
great video, awesome channel to get advice on buying a watch.
@rongriffiths6927
@rongriffiths6927 7 жыл бұрын
I find these videos wonderful, so clear and informative, really well presented and a wonderful source of information.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking them out.
@benwong1111
@benwong1111 7 жыл бұрын
My seiko solar radio wave model XS055J with caliper 7B42 purchased from Japan actually have this functionality + solar + radio wave. Bought it since 2012 but didn't know it had this functionality but it is very well appreciated. It's quite a shame mine got black coating on the stainless steel so now it cannot be restored with brushing and polishing.
@memonion4515
@memonion4515 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought this watch after watching this video Amazing piece!
@sunnyr8434
@sunnyr8434 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great series. Thanks!
@Sparks68
@Sparks68 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about this model. I've got three of the Seiko 8Fxx perpetuals with 10-yr lithium batteries made between 2001 and 2003 from the date codes on the back. They were introduced by Seiko in 1999. Just replaced the battery in one of them that was made in 2001 - it's the third battery (counting the original). If you do it when it starts the double-tick warning and get the new one in within 3 minutes, it doesn't require reprogramming the year, month and date before closing it up. I've also got a perpetual kinetic auto-relay made in 2013. Provided you don't let it run down completely in long-term storage, it never needs reprogramming. The battery in this one that lasts five years - at best with zero chrono use and near zero calendar use - more like three years in practical use - defeats much of the perpetual calendar convenience other than end of short month - while imposing reprogramming year-month-date every few years. Kinetic is practical if worn almost daily to keep it charged, and solar would be much more practical.
@jameelshehadeh9011
@jameelshehadeh9011 2 жыл бұрын
You are so oriented and know your stuff thanks for this great info
@BruceButterfield
@BruceButterfield 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark... Very informative
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@stevesibaja3123
@stevesibaja3123 2 жыл бұрын
Some analog watches they do feature Perpetual Calendar other watches you have to set it manually depends on the watch brands
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 5 жыл бұрын
Adjusting the Citizen E510/E710 perpetual calendar is kind of "fun" ;-) I always have to refer to the booklet (itself, hard to find) if I have let the watch run down (very, very seldom, but twice in 12 years)
@mkphilly
@mkphilly 2 жыл бұрын
Love my seiko.... really surprises how complicated it is for the price
@MTCKIE68
@MTCKIE68 6 жыл бұрын
So Very Cool !!!! I'm learning so much from You and these videos !!
@sans3698
@sans3698 6 жыл бұрын
The only thing that bugs me is that they could've made the date indicator hand a little bit more longer. Just a personal preference but love the watch otherwise. Oh and they could've avoided the tachymeter haha Thanks for the info as well.
@teamhonn
@teamhonn 7 жыл бұрын
thanks mark for the great info.
@BobbieGWhiz
@BobbieGWhiz 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not a "Watch-ie", but I'm interested in the calendar, and you know your stuff. Thanks. Too bad that the 400 year leap year rule came in to effect in the year 2000 (that overrode the 100 year non leap year rule) so the general public wasn't given the opportunity to learn that we don't always have leap years every 4 years.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@STohme
@STohme 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video Mark, thanks.
@raymondmalone9721
@raymondmalone9721 7 жыл бұрын
Yet again another great W&L. What a nice looking seiko 😍
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, wait till you see the other versions
@jorgemtds
@jorgemtds 7 жыл бұрын
Great explanation Mark. And very nice watch.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it.
@frenchaccent540
@frenchaccent540 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your educational and informative videos. This Seiko needs only to be reset every 100 years and most importantly every 2 years when changing battery. So, as much as watch is nice, it totally negates the advantage of owning perpetual calendar and not having to adjust it. Respectfully :)
@ChintanPandya01
@ChintanPandya01 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome series! Keep em coming! We are there with you.
@CAfakmykak
@CAfakmykak 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark are there any Perpetual Calendar complication's for under 10,000 USD? I really wanted a Grand Seiko but noticed that they do not have any. All of the other's that I have seen used online seem to be 20,000+
@stevenstocking5855
@stevenstocking5855 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Mark. Can't believe I sit watching vlogs on watches but hey....
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that. . .
@MAZiese
@MAZiese 3 жыл бұрын
Mark I always enjoy watching your in-depth reviews of watches and how to set them up. My question is when fall arrives what is the procedure for rolling back the time one hour on the 7T86 movement for this watch? Is it safe to turn the crown counter-clockwise or will it damage the movement?
@Sparks68
@Sparks68 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter. When you set the time by pulling the crown out to the 2nd position, it cancels all alarm settings. After setting the time on the main dial using the crown, you use the pushers to set the alarm subdial to the same time. At the time sync you push the crown back in. The date changes when the subdial time at the six hits midnight (i.e. 24/0 hours), not the main dial and it doesn't affect the date in time setting mode. Even when the alarm is set, the internal IC knows the current time on the 24 hour subdial and it will still change the date when it hits midnight. You're thinking all the day, date, month and year are mechanically driven by a wheel train off the main hour hand. They're not. It's all electronic with the IC kicking stepper or ultrasonic motors.
@KakashiHatake-ou7mp
@KakashiHatake-ou7mp 7 жыл бұрын
Great watch! looking forward to your detailed review
@MegaRandomGuy97
@MegaRandomGuy97 7 жыл бұрын
Massive thanks mister Mark!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
A big THANK YOU for watching.
@007oli
@007oli 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the watch, online it says there is a black dial, Arabic numerals version in 40mm, is that right the information online is ambiguous. Can't wait for the review!
@makerofmanythings8447
@makerofmanythings8447 5 жыл бұрын
Man this watch solar powered would be phenomenal, but I'm still buying it like it is. If or when it comes out in a solar version I will have another one. I currently have the citizens perpetual calendar but it is less convenient to operate functions, this seiko is much easier. Love the classic looks of the seiko perpetual calendar. 👍😎👍
@lukeg2091
@lukeg2091 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Great explanation!
@badbackshop
@badbackshop 7 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, very well explained and demonstrated. New subscriber!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you.
@masterace1150
@masterace1150 3 жыл бұрын
At costco youll get the perpetual calander quartz seiko for $249 CAD.
@ProCelestialEmpire
@ProCelestialEmpire 7 жыл бұрын
What a regret that they don't put this model with a solar powered movements...
@awakeningwolf
@awakeningwolf 3 жыл бұрын
citizen do :)
@adriften7564
@adriften7564 3 жыл бұрын
@@awakeningwolf model name?
@awakeningwolf
@awakeningwolf 3 жыл бұрын
I dont have one but you can google or i think amazon does
@kingpinag7759
@kingpinag7759 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriften7564 ig its this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4KXq5qBgpaojsU
@GarrySkipPerkins
@GarrySkipPerkins 7 жыл бұрын
This watch is the Seiko SPC131P1.
@boxingfan5742
@boxingfan5742 3 жыл бұрын
Mark, I bought this watch a couple of years ago. I've always had the day jump what appears to be 12 hours "early" and let it slide. I thought I had fixed a couple of days ago by going through the step again but it still does it. Can you tell me what I might be doing wrong or how you would bring the day increment 12 hours back. It certainly isn't as easy to set up as an automatic. Thank you for your great videos and much continued success!
@dushancg8817
@dushancg8817 Жыл бұрын
Set it 12h back
@flip7081
@flip7081 6 жыл бұрын
Great information. I'm looking for a "nice" one" with these, but they always to be expensive, out of my price range and / or don't have one with all the features that I want (actual numbers, NOT indices, hand applied or not, and that it's not look to dressy!I just don't dig them, AND yes about half way through, I gave the vid a thumb's, and hit the subscribe button!.This one sounds awesome. I've been looking at the Seiko site for a while, and do not remember seeing this. I've been considering a Citizen because, as you noted, the recharge capacity it has, but that's hit or miss. For a little while I've also been considering a Longines Master Collection L2.755.4.78.6 but damn their expensive) Day and date, that really all I care about. With it (Seiko) being a quartz drive, I'd assume that they're fairly resilient? I am admittedly rough on a watch, less so now as recently I've since changed jobs, but still, I'd say fairly a bit rough. Thanks for any help you can give!
@VictorC1891
@VictorC1891 7 жыл бұрын
But the Orient SPORTY AUTOMATIC EU00002D and EU07008D are Multi-Year Calendar watches, and they are pretty affordable as well.
@scottyb-i1b
@scottyb-i1b 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@FitOutPost
@FitOutPost 6 жыл бұрын
Very educational review again. Thanks.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Rolanditou
@Rolanditou 7 жыл бұрын
man that watch is beautiful.. didnt know about the price is incredible.!!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Rolanditou
@Rolanditou 7 жыл бұрын
Long Island Watch please review the Seiko SRP767K1 I'm looking forward to buy one, I checked your online store and is not listed, you guys don't carry that one ? It's white dial, classic hands... with a leather straps have to look gorgeous
@stevesibaja3123
@stevesibaja3123 2 жыл бұрын
Automatically Calendar from January through December on the watch
@jerrygundecker743
@jerrygundecker743 7 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy this series. If you think it's relevant, why would one model of Casio (PAW/PRW 5000) not be able to be shipped to the U.S. per Amazon? I don't get it and have been trying to get one for some time.
@fmc6338
@fmc6338 7 жыл бұрын
nice watch, just bought one of your bambinos. great price!!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@peterostrovsky7142
@peterostrovsky7142 10 ай бұрын
That looks like the 6106/6119 "Saucer" Sports Diver case, is it?
@sendilkumarmurugaiah9325
@sendilkumarmurugaiah9325 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please post the picture of the movement? Is the movement made of plastic plates and wheels or a mix of metallic plates?
@ajalbani
@ajalbani 2 жыл бұрын
Except for the leap year ending in 00 which will count 28 days in Feburary
@lpandy21
@lpandy21 3 жыл бұрын
Live! From the in-laws basement! THIS GUY!!!!. (Thanks for the video)
@munawarhussain9859
@munawarhussain9859 7 жыл бұрын
Bro you are very smart........................... good for you love your videos keep it up. ps. love your blue dialed Rolex yacht master.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate it. Just pick up alot of stuff.
@ruuerian
@ruuerian 4 ай бұрын
At what time in the day is it best to set up your perpetual calendar mechanical watch?(At what hour?)
@kamalismy
@kamalismy 7 жыл бұрын
damn!!!!!......thanks....very...very informative....nice Seiko
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, wait till next week; it gets better!
@lovejoy04
@lovejoy04 8 ай бұрын
Please, what's the difference between a perpetual with years and without?, thank you.
@stevesibaja3123
@stevesibaja3123 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Every 4 Years we have Leap Years The next Leap Year is in 2024 and the last Leap Year that we had was back in 2020
@lookupsmile
@lookupsmile 6 жыл бұрын
Hy and tks for what you do 😊 Can you explain me haw can i set the alarm Thank you
@ingohiller3415
@ingohiller3415 7 жыл бұрын
boy that is complicated because I got one of those Seco and expensive one and it says no that way I adjusted one and before last year was a leap year at least that's what that says I don't know I'm just a big date that's all it has and the month it doesn't have that day so I don't know how hope I did this right
@WuBloodKin09
@WuBloodKin09 7 жыл бұрын
Good video Mark, very informative...had a question, are master calendar watches the same as the perpetual calendar watches?
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
No. The Master Calendar is a JLC term, and just refers to the display of calendar variables. It does not adjust for months less than 31 days.
@WuBloodKin09
@WuBloodKin09 7 жыл бұрын
Long Island Watch Thank you for clearing that up, appreciate it
@Iberian247
@Iberian247 7 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to find a watch that would also compensate for Daylight Savings Time.
@Iberian247
@Iberian247 7 жыл бұрын
I guess that would be an atomic or radio watch.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
that's exactly what it would be.
@hashimal-muafa7819
@hashimal-muafa7819 4 жыл бұрын
It would be amazing if it’s automatic movement 🔥🔥🔥
@thegit8698
@thegit8698 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these videos
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 6 жыл бұрын
I am glad!
@ZoranKzg
@ZoranKzg 5 жыл бұрын
Hi I need help. Do you know how I can return year on perpetual watch. Was playing with watch and now is year not correct.
@devendrakale7638
@devendrakale7638 5 жыл бұрын
Pls upload video for complete resetting of this watch. The manual is not clear.
@ingohiller3415
@ingohiller3415 7 жыл бұрын
very good I understand that now
@anugrahanupam2033
@anugrahanupam2033 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Seiko SPC129P1 I m unable to set date in my watch... Chronograph hand shows +1 when put to stop watch mode... I would be really grateful if you could explain me in an easy way to resolve it.
2 жыл бұрын
Just bought this watch recently. Before I took it to a watch shop to put a battery in it the day and date was correct, after I got it back it show a totally different day and date (tuesday instead of Saturday and January first instead of November 13th). How come and what should I do?
@navajasrs2402
@navajasrs2402 6 жыл бұрын
Man that's a great watch. Just leery of non-solar quartz movements. :-/
@saadfarid6677
@saadfarid6677 7 жыл бұрын
Please can you review citizen perpetual calendar thanks!!!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Next time I come across one.
@cursodecapacitacaoemsaudem2937
@cursodecapacitacaoemsaudem2937 7 жыл бұрын
This watch is awesome! However to big for my fist (44,6mm). Is there a similar one with max 42mm? Thx
@sarfarazshaikh771
@sarfarazshaikh771 7 жыл бұрын
I would love if you can explain how to use map meter bezel on Seiko watch.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, great idea. Now if I can get my hands on one of those map watches.
@sarfarazshaikh771
@sarfarazshaikh771 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will share you with you some details with my new Seiko 5
@stevesibaja3123
@stevesibaja3123 2 жыл бұрын
Perpetual Calendar means is Automatically corrects today's date
@mothirajendran1491
@mothirajendran1491 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a video where I can learn how to adjust the hands? Thanks for your advice in advance.
@TheKennethfilm
@TheKennethfilm 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, is the writings on the dials luminated?
@seanwatchbond
@seanwatchbond 2 жыл бұрын
How do I set the 24 hour dial? Notice it does not move while adjusting the the hour and minute hand.
@JamesJLaRue
@JamesJLaRue 6 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for something that may not exist...an analog watch with perpetual calendar, 200M (or more) water resist, bright lume or some kind of backlight and a high capacity chronograph of at least 5 or 6 hours. (preferably 9 hours). That last requirement probably puts me in ana-digi territory. Or I'll just have to stick with digital.
@zzyzxzee6374
@zzyzxzee6374 6 жыл бұрын
Bought this watch, my gf loved it so much,she stole it from me ;) going to replace it with a pilot watch of some sort. Need big dial great lume
@vadimf8301
@vadimf8301 7 жыл бұрын
the watch does not skip year in 2100. but for some strange reason it does not bother me by the way you got great vids dude
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@HDNShare
@HDNShare 7 жыл бұрын
I don't expect perpetual calendar automatic watch has an affordable price. But is there an affordable annual calendar automatic watch? (Of course Seiko 5 should be a great choice if you want calendar (not annual nor perpetual) automatic watch)
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 жыл бұрын
No, there isn't.
@HDNShare
@HDNShare 7 жыл бұрын
I know :) Actually I want to ask about the lowest price for an annual calendar automatic watch (I don't expect it affordable though, lol :D) PS: out of curiosity, I also want to know the lowest price for a perpetual calendar automatic watch.
@erze2367
@erze2367 7 жыл бұрын
Based on a not very extensive research, for an annual calendar the Montblanc Heritage Chronométrie Quantième Annuel comes in at about US$6,000 and for a perpetual calendar the Frederique Constant Slimline Manufacture Perpetual Calendar comes in at about US$9,000.
@kakusei3672
@kakusei3672 5 жыл бұрын
i just recently purchased this watch from amazon and my watch back was not engraved like yours. It has a powder coat finish, could it be a fake?
@MilanNikolic96
@MilanNikolic96 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty fun feature to amuse my ADHD with
@ontheway001
@ontheway001 4 жыл бұрын
How to set alarm
@ernesthetic
@ernesthetic 5 жыл бұрын
Does the calendar last forever?
@muhammadrehan2907
@muhammadrehan2907 6 ай бұрын
I didn't understand how we decided about year that is 2017?
@jmf2274
@jmf2274 6 жыл бұрын
what is the difference between this watch(spc132p1) and spc129p1 or spc129? thanks
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