LOOK whats inside these new FORD filters | FL-2051 vs FL-2124

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

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[@Mr42960]

I hate to correct a master tech, but I'm pretty certain the dirty oil enters the outside of the pleats and the filtered oil exits through the center. This is why the center of the pleats has a perforated metal cylinder, to resist the pleats from collapsing with the direction of flow.

[@360plussynthetics]

Exactly what I was thinking as I shook my head.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey i just started yesterday🤷‍♂️

[@billchmelik5697]

​@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod lol...

[@Lawnfella]

That is correct

[@real_ultrajoe]

Does it matter at this point

[@gargar8196]

Put the cutter in the vise and use a oil filter wrench to spin the filter

[@victoryfirst2878]

15:05 I would like to see the filtration numbers and flow numbers Sir ?? 😀😀😀😀

[@arizonalifestylechannel2186]

I had my parts Dept get me a few oil filters for my 6.7 from the Ford dealership next door, come to find that is the new filter. I have one on my truck now after doing my first LOF

[@chainweight6203]

Great video! Did my oil change last week. Went to Amazon, long wait for 2051, but have the new 2124's available. Didn't trust Amazon, so I walked into O'Reilly, and all they had available were the new 2124 models at the same price as the 2051 for around $22 and some change. Walmart not up to speed yet. So far no problems, 6.7 running great....thx for all the info!

[@herveyforward5956]

Thanks for the comparison. Ford is finally trying to catch up to our Amsoil full flow

[@loganeley2342]

You know Arod has been hanging out with the kiddo when he says stuff like "cutty-wuty". Interesting video, thanks for bringing us along. New filter looks like it might be a hair better

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Logannnnnnnn🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@Boogieee215]

My most recent oil change which was about 3 weeks ago was with the new 2124 after doing some research. Was caught off guard when I tried ordering a 2051 like always and received an email they were discontinued. I do enjoy wix filters as well

[@kellyc2425]

I bet your engine would enjoy the Motorcraft filter more 😊

[@akbychoice]

The spring in the bottom is a by-pass spring should your filter get plugged. The oil pressure will push the filter down and flow at the top.

[@bajamedic]

Just bought a 3 pack of Donaldson filters. Great reviews!

[@davecarroll4086]

Just bought a 12 pk of 2051s @ $16 each... won't have to buy another filter for quite a while.

[@nobodyhome2318]

Motorcraft baby!👍

[@billspruce8368]

I wonder how these compare to Amsoil filters... I have a three change supply of Amsoil 5w-40 and filters waiting in the wings.

[@NSoutdoorsman]

thanks ARod good video

[@BarnStangz]

Yo mane, thanks for the video, new filter look pretty legit, I'll have to stock up, got a few years worth of 2051's, but I'll have to get the new style... Also, new boots are looking FRESH as well! 128k subs, keep rippin' baby!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ripp rippp

[@michaelanderson3063]

Locally I can only buy my filters from the dealer. There are none in the after market other then on line. The dealer are only selling the 2124 at $40 with tax. I am happy to see that it looks to be a better filter and should help in filtering my 013.

[@stepfour]

You can get the motorcraft filter online from 21 -28 bucks... I'm all for supporting your local business... but, not that much.

[@jakethesk8roberts763]

@@stepfourcheaper at Walmart

[@efaraday4]

This 2124 looks exactly like the inside of the black filter that comes on the engine from the factory. Wish I took pictures when I cut it open.

[@cwtex59]

Probably since the media looks different it’s easier to track any potential problems by changing the numbers. Silicone may also be different or at least different color .

[@emellina1]

Looked identical until you ripped into the Fabric...good comparison.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey budddddy

[@Uncle_Fester24]

Cool video. Your watch is badazz!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Found it in a movie!

[@magnuseriksson5721]

Intersting material in the FL-2124 filter. i think it have longer filter life

[@joemolina5215]

Just got my oil changed at dealership they put a 2124 oil filter that is why I wanted to watch this video

[@adrianspeeder]

FL-1A and FL-1995 for life!

[@FollowingtheCliffNotes]

Look a notification on the same day wow

[@jeffburger2782]

Ya i did not even get a notice

[@FollowingtheCliffNotes]

@@jeffburger2782 I haven’t been getting all notifications only some

[@CPsGarage]

Your being watched cliffy wiffy

[@FollowingtheCliffNotes]

@@CPsGarage possibly. Need to stop watching F r T videos 😂😂

[@vais3]

The FL-2124 is a synthetic media and the OG FL-2051S are a closer to a glass or glass enhanced cellulose media. Both do phenomenal for filtration but the synthetic media flows a bit better. These filters should be made by Mann Hummel who bought out both Wix and Purolator. They own a few others as well. Micron rating assumed: 20 micron at 95% or better. It’s possible to be 15 micron but we will see once the literature is released.

[@mjmohn]

Will Walmart take them back now as a return if you have your receipt? Great Video. Cheers.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Not sure

[@xeutoniumnyborg1192]

12:10 @ARod My best guess on the numbers on the filter cans is this: (Disclaimer, this is Nyborg's SWAG). First 4 digits is a lot number. Last 5 digits is a sequence number in that filter's production run. Again, just my guess. Good info today!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey thanks bubby

[@nysucks4508]

Changed my oil last month and my parts dept had the new filters in stock

[@Cotton088]

Looks like the Purolator BOSS media to me

[@CPsGarage]

Because they are the supplier

[@dirtdiggler1980]

Something I’d like to add as I was just at the dealer for my filters and I questioned the number change in which they couldn’t explain lol but the price DOUBLED for us up here in Canada 🇨🇦 new number new price I said… but at least with your video I see they have improved it not sure if it’s double but lmao

[@akbychoice]

I use a large pipe cutter to open my filters. Couldn’t justify the price of the fancy filter cutters.

[@BlakeReed18]

@powerstroketechtalkwarod so would I use the new filter on my 2018 6.7, or stay with the original? In the discription it says for '23 6.7's.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

The new filter supersedes the old filter

[@dallon507]

Uhhh lol no.. not quite 😂 8:03

[@MrMan5014]

8:03 I was always under the impression the oil went the other way…down through the little holes and to the outside of the pleats and into the centre and back up through the big hole…when mechanics cut the filters open to investigate the source of engine failures, always check the outside of the pleats…maybe this one is different but it doesn’t really make sense…🤔

[@akbychoice]

Couldn’t get a FoMoCo filter anywhere last oil change, first time using anything else but it is a WIX. Damn thing was 3 times the price of the FoMoCo.

[@TJ-qz6hr]

I just about had a heart attack after changing the oil in my 6.7. After starting the engine, I just happened to look at the old 2051 filter in the drain pan and the box that the 2124 came in and thought, ohhh sheeeet!!! they gave me the wrong filter!!! I immediately went to a ARod video to see what the deal was? I feel better now.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Wheeeew

[@coryjohnson3946]

Caaaaaan you say….purolator !😂

[@CPsGarage]

Yup they are 100% sure the supplier

[@aiwseman80]

Any chance you'd cut a royal purple 40-2051 open too?

[@CITIZENSDOGE]

I can see there are more pleats, but how deep do the pleats go? If they don’t go as deep as the first generation oil filter, then there may not be really any difference other than the filter material.

[@RayLovesCars]

Oh hey I was wondering about this as our dealership finally got some more powerstroke filters, we’ve been stocking Balwin filters because of backorder issues up on the north side of the border

[@Jewalston]

Aaron, What is the part number for the PCCV air oil separator on a 2023 F250 Crew Cab 6.7L. I want to change the one on my 2021.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

There isnt one

[@louhess6355]

Is bigger always better with oil filters? The reason I asked that is Will that fit a 6.2 gasser? Are the threads different? Do the gaskets not match up? I've always liked the idea of running the biggest oil filter I could fit on, more volume of oil the better. Does anyone know why it wouldn't fit.

[@timf6916]

Well, my Ford Dealer does mine. IT BETTER NOT be a copy cat.

[@georgejacobs3938]

What filter wrench do you use and a part number for it

[@joemolina5215]

Hope it doesn’t put any restrictions on oil pump

[@pmiller7886]

Looks pretty legit, gotta look up the price.

[@bob_frazier]

Does the new (FL2124s) come with the info directly printed on the white metal filter or is it a stick on label? The old (FL2051s) has it's label directly printed on the metal filter, right? Could these be fakes from Amazon?

[@wildmanofthewynooch7028]

The filter media on the new filter is a synthetic media where the old one is cellulose blend. Everything else is the same.

[@mike-cl1mm]

I think the oil goes the other way ! But I believe the reinforcement in the paper is for 100% synthetic oil Wix has a special designation for synthetic oil filters as do many other brands , Ford maybe has an all in one kind of deal ? Maybe , maybe not ,,,, but I am sure about 5he oil flow deal,,, love the channel

[@kellyc2425]

Perhaps easier to clamp cutting jig to work bench, then use a strap wrench on the filter

[@DannyDelawder]

I just got 2 2051s at walmart did not see any 2124

[@barrywhitley2535]

First time and last time watching this channel. Is this guy really a Ford technician? God help us.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Cya later ding dong

[@jkcook626]

how does Ford oem 2051 compare to Wix and Fleetgard for quality???

[@Jon-O.]

Looks like the new filter has all Synthetic media which gives higher flow rate and smaller micron rating and can hold more contaminates while maintaining the flow rate. The benefits of synthetic media over paper cellulouse media. Its why I stopped using mopar oil filter on my 6.7 Cummins and use the Fleetguard synthetic media or Amsoil's oil filters.

[@zfilmmaker]

I just found out about this (time to do an oil change)...the 2124 is double the price.

[@JeepBigE]

I still have a couple 2051's left before I make the switch on my 2018.

[@kingranch8516]

Waiting for you to say oh gravity

[@jmadams75]

Off topic. 2022 King Ranch Tremor... My lane keep assist completely disappeared from my dash and I can't get it to come back. I can change settings but i can't get it back up on the display. Anyone else?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Really??

[@Duschbag]

Just a thought... Remove the silly rubber handle from your "CAT" Can Opener, mount that big ass handle in a good Bench Vise... Now you can use TWO hands to rotate the Filter Housing while adjusting the screw clamp putting pressure on the RIDGE BRAND PIPE CUTTER WHEELS... and you'll open it up in less than a minute... No, I'm not a factory trained mechanic but... I have been selling Industrial Tools for over 43 years. 🙂🇺🇸 I was also a (CMS) Commodity Management Supplier to the St. Louis Ford Assembly Plant for six years. I still have my Licence Plate Frame that was given to me by the Tool Stores Manager that reads "I WORK FOR FORD, I DRIVE A FORD" I have many great memories from my time working with the people at that plant. It manufacturerd The Ford Aerostar Minivans. 😟 Then the Explorer's came out along with Mercury Mountaneer and Lincoln Aviator. All different trim levels on a Explorer frame, suspension, engines and transmissions. Just different interiors and exterior trim. Sorry.... I'll shut up now.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks buddy, ok u can un shut up now😝😝

[@jimmyaber5920]

Does this new oil filter make CP4.2 pumps last?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

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[@TonyBenton0728]

I am using the K&N HP 4005 10 mc now over the 20 mc Motorcraft . The last Ford mechanic didn’t remove the old gasket and put the new filter on top of the old gasket leaked like crazy. Am I correct the Motorcraft filter is 20 mc ?

[@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq]

I’m always flabbergasted when people double gasket. I mean yeah, maybe my incompetent neighbor did it, but it should never happen to someone who changes oil filters for a living

[@g-man2228]

Sooo, longer oil life, or no?!? 👊🏻

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Nooooo

[@logangaskins9003]

Outside of a simple answer like “use the oem” Is a cat filter better than a motorcraft? I’d Love to run cat filters

[@akbychoice]

I thought I saw where A-rod was running a Donaldson Filter.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Fuel

[@gorbyagusta7076]

You got the flow direction wrong.

[@williamsantiago7303]

That glue job looks cheap. Did the country of manufacture change?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

🤷‍♂️

[@davidwysocki143]

it's not a rubber anti drain back valve...it is a silicone anti drain back valve. It says right on the box above the part number "silicone valve". Also the letter S at the end of the part number means it is a silicone valve filter.

[@davidwysocki143]

The date code starts with the second digit. The filter in your left hand date is 02-11-22. The right hand filter is 09-15-22. Don't know what the other digits mean, possibly production numbers such as shift, batch, line or run numbers.

[@kendavis1198]

AMSOIL FILTER In a FORD Canister??? How Much was that BABY???

[@DesertJeff]

Instead of eight holes, they now have five elongated holes

[@Go2Sleep911]

My question would be is using the 2051 ok i still have a few around. Will warranty work be denied if using the old filter? I mean it shouldn’t with the magnuson moss act, but I Got a free Amsoil eo98 with my was oil order so was going to us that one up.

[@CITIZENSDOGE]

It’s more like a pipe cutter been a can opener. Just saying.

[@akbychoice]

I use a pipe cutter.

[@scha0786]

Come on son, get some micrometers to give some science to it

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Sorry i failed science class, but bill nye might know

[@rbhe357]

The new model is so much more exactly the same .

[@davidmills4346]

AMSOIL Bypass

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I gave mine away

[@jamesplotkin4674]

I clicked away after he said the oil flows from the middle to the outside. Before that, he was uncertain of the anti-drainback valve. Nope.

[@emon550]

that is so ridiculous how much it cost....so sad

[@ryanfriedrich7202]

Amsoil my choice over all of these bottom metal flat spring in these is horrible

[@lalo1424]

This video was a waste of time.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

So was your gd comment

[@gregorywheeler69]

I'm wondering which country made each filter

[@matthewyates3230]

I just did my oil change today and last night kinda just found out they had a replacement filter. Actually relieved you did a video on it because I wasnt sure if I was retarded and put the wrong filter on my truck. : p

[@gregorywheeler69]

Where is each one made

[@717weston2]

I stock a lot of the filters for 6.7 but I buy from Ford dealer probably counterfeit 😊

[@Dirtymaxhdt]

Pos ford is still gonna blow up. They should have made it like this in the first place.

[@matthewyates3230]

New filters are made of snake skin on the inside eh

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

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