NEW FORD trucks | FAMOUS 4x4 NOISE - FIXED!!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

check your death wobble here kzbin.info/aero/PLO4T4Ez-ZZaTL8_plKzErTaalN0XHuXDg

[@drover338]

As a owner, most technicians dismissed my requests for them to watch your fix for the "squeeky" axle. They reguarded me as a unknowing person and are just full of themselves in how thing work. I started working and repairing Marmon Harrington AWD trucks before their parents were born. Thank you so very much for your content!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

🤗🤗

[@kayakuprising5914]

Don't you just love it when everything comes together like it's supposed to? Good job.

[@josephrikalo524]

My wife and I have been hearing this on the passenger side of our 2016 6.7 powerstroke. Thanks to you now I know that this can be fixed!! God bless you!!

[@FlushtheSystem]

I wish there was a channel as awesome as this for 6.2L gasers.

[@rockie307]

6.2 gassers don't have as much trouble

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ha! So you think.....

[@rockie307]

The company I work for has both and the 6.2s have been more reliable small sample but still in my experience the gas trucks have way less issues. Of course it's not typical use idling around muddy construction sites all day and night.

[@Engine-town]

@@rockie307yeah i’m not surprised by that one bit. I’m pretty sure everyone buying these trucks know that putzing around and idling is for gassers. If you run a diesel like that, the number one issue is the CCV box. Almost no one knows about it, and if they do they still don’t service it. So as a general statement I don’t agree. Like you said they’re being worked a specific way…

[@L15a5haw]

Buy a 6.7

[@matthewgraham7419]

Ford needs to give you a big job leading their tech training,you are awsome and getting even better at explaining and demonstrating repair!! Thanks for all you do, you are making a difference in the industry!!

[@neilstgermain]

My 2022 has been doing that on the driver’s side. Of course the dealer “can’t replicate” thank you for finding the problem! Now to get them to warranty it…

[@jasonodette1245]

I took my 2022 F250 in 4 months ago because of this funny metallic noise also coming from the drivers side axle. I told the dealer I thought something was wrong with the hub. The dealer said their "master tech" said the noises were normal and refused to resolve the issue. I told them there was nothing normal about this noise. Thanks for the video. I'm taking this back to the dealer with a video of my truck making the noise and I'm bringing Ford in on this to make sure whatever is wrong gets fixed.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

We wish we cld have helped ya

[@diggingupnorth3453]

My 2022 350 started doing this today and i stopped at the dealership where i bought it. The Service writer came out and listened to it. went back in and talked to a tech that told him it was normal, just a rubber seal rubbing on metal. It sounds EXACTLY like this truck, if not louder. They told me to just keep running it, everything is good.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

What lyin dumbasses

[@JH15-v7r]

Just started happening on my 21’ f-250 CCLB 6.2 drivers side front. Believe this is the exact problem. Thanks for the video.

[@PistonShack]

I couldn't 100% figure out source of the same noise on my f550 4x4 6.0 Powerstroke for quite some time. Thanks a lot for filming this video, it helped me out a lot. Cheers!

[@matthewcharland8624]

2019 f250 with 55k miles. Just started this noise a couple weeks ago now. Very annoying squeal! Great video. Thank you for showing part numbers and describing tool sizes. I’m going to attack this repair myself.

[@shacar415]

Awesome instructional vid! Once again, you made it look easy and saving so many a lot of headaches. 👏🏻

[@Bucs-Fan-James]

Very Informative video. As a new first time F250 6.7 owner, I learn a lot from your videos. I like how you go into detail and what to look for when diagnosing a problem. Thank you for taking time to create them.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Pppppreciate chu

[@Paul-bv3ed]

Thanks!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey buddy, that was way cool!!! 🙏🙏

[@MR-si1eq]

Love these videos. You make it easy to learn. I'm a torque guy. I need to look and see if things need to be torqued. Then I feel happy.😊

[@timsmothers8740]

I figured that everything had torque specs, even the lug nuts, should get torqued. Perhaps that's what caused the damage to begin with. I have seen ARod break out his torque wrench in other videos. May everyone find some Easter eggs 🥚 !

[@christophniggli4750]

Got a 2017 F-250 410000 km noise just started today Thank you Sir

[@asullivan50i]

Yes have this problem, not as loud, can only hear it when windows are down! Been waiting for this one, Thanks bro!

[@zachdavis-ev3ih]

2022 F550 dump truck, less than 10k miles. Only use 4H in the winter when plowing residential and commercial lots. Noticed the same noise in December brought it to the dealer they stated it was normal. Had a long duration snow storm in January and kept hearing the noise (drove me nuts) captured it on video this time and showed the dealer. They decided to dig a little further this time. Ended up being the same seal. Ford the king of quality the last couple of years. Lol yeah right. I have a love hate relationship with my truck

[@landondc4739]

“Normal,” and “within spec.” How do dealers stay in business with that bs?

[@ken8334]

I think Dana makes them.

[@nbco55]

2011 F350 SRW owner here, I've said the same thing... But my version of the love/hate relationship is that I love to hate it...😂

[@bobk3840]

@@ken8334 wheel ends are spec’d by the OEM

[@cheng7368]

Driver side. 21 f350 6.7 had this same issue. Watched over dozens of KZbin videos to see a possible repair for this model year but this is the first video so far for my model year. Was going to tackle myself but dealership got it fixed under warranty. Paid out of pocket to have them replaced the passenger side while they were at it just in case. Also had them install the front axle knuckles seal shield. Hopefully it’ll help keep crap out of the seals. I’ll have to see. A month after the repair now my 4x4 doesn’t engage unless I lock the hub manually. Go figure.😢 But Arod by far is the most knowledgeable person on these super duties. And I really learn and appreciate all your content. Excellent as always

[@havensoutdoorworld3656]

Same issue on same side with 2021 250 tremor 7.3. Very disappointing to see in new trucks. Great video and tutorial! Thank you for taking the time

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks for coming through and keeping it real

[@Mack-Glide]

Thanks, My 2022 f350 with 16k miles is making the same noise, except its on the passenger side. Ill be making an appointment at the dealership soon to get it fixed

[@ScottKnight-r3g]

My 2021 F250 does this. Thanks for doing this video. It was well done!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thank you I appreciate that I worked hard on it

[@bobbylarotonda5674]

Awesome helpful video , thank you for sharing your time.

[@blackopsrocks]

Plow enough snow with these trucks and you can identify exactly what this is within about ten seconds. I sometimes get seals from national that dont have silicone grease in the wiper portion of the seal, if we put them in without checking that they make this noise within one or two plowing sessions. Number two is getting new unit bearings with an ungreased shaft support bearing, that has been happening the last few years so we get stuck doing surgery so we can put a grease needle in that bearing and fill it. I hired a new tech to manage our trucks and machines, these kinds of parts quality issues are so prevalent now its alarming. You will need to be vigilant, that is all it is.

[@casey3235]

good thing you bought the special tool. sounds like your gonna need it alot

[@TheCOM]

Nice job A-rod. You the Man!

[@ajmcdonald7906]

My tuck has been doing this. Glad to find this video from the best content creator. Now I’m gonna watch the video and see what you say!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks pal

[@toyoder1]

Hallelujah! Thanks Aaron! My 17, 250 just started making that noise this winter. 🤬 I can’t wait to make the repair🤙

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Easy peasy

[@happycasa8615]

Frickin awesome job Arod!

[@whosaidthat5236]

Lol that intro the noise from the wheel was making my dog freak out

[@GuretoSefirosu]

I have been extremely lucky with my trucks (all have been 4x4 except for my 1995 Ranger). I remember the vacuum line leaks causing the nylon/plastic teeth on the F-150's to grind, but my two never did that. My 250 has not had any 4x4 issues to date.

[@bobk3840]

You should use an arbor press to remove the seal on the shaft. Then use the same arbor press to install the new one. I’m surprised that the dealership doesn’t have any.

[@pcrengnr1]

A pulley puller as well as the arbor press. Not a fan of hammering if I can avoid it.

[@californiafarmin2145]

This^

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

That's not the procedure to put that part in. You guys see the special tool that's used don't you.................

[@natey891]

That’s a big ass special tool. Hope the seal on my twenty twenty doesn’t fail!

[@tbom1021]

Hello ARod , I had a 2015 F-350 Super Duty that had the same issues on both sides as well as the loc-outs needed a pliers to turn them.🤙

[@robs4517]

Do you remember back in the day when axle seals were simple seals and they didn't squeak and come apart like that because they weren't overly complicated? Yeah. That was nice back then.

[@johnm7793]

I have a beautiful 2017 F350 with 76k on it. The day of purchase I traded one of the most powerful trucks I’ve owned which was a 20-F250. I noticed before I left the lot the 350 has a ticking noise in the hub, we searched for what sounded like a lug nut rattling in the cover and have yet to find the cause. This video makes me question my service shop… I never get proper answers or concerns. For instance, I dropped the 350 off asking them to service and find any issues. It came back with the same issues that I found myself like a hole drilled in the top of the primary coolant tank and the tank empty the infamous hose clamps loose and leaking across the top of the engine… I’m willing to pay the bill I just would like my truck fixed as it should. Thank you for the excellent videos, info, and work sir! Tell me how to book an appointment for a full service 👏🏻

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Email me! I got chu. If you become a channel member, there is a DIRECT link to me, PTT in the community posts

[@johnm7793]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod email sent sir. Thanks!

[@ajhainstock3997]

This just came across my feed, since January I've had about 7 f250-f30s come thru my bay for an annoying squeak all have been a late 2021 to early 2022 production. 6 of them have been for that seal on the axle shaft, one was a rock in the rotor. Must've been a bad batch of seals at the time

[@willb7975]

That axle C clip. First-time hub replacement on my 06 F350without proper pliers, hours to replace it. Snap-on pliers made it seconds to remove and reinstall...tks arod...

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I know your pain

[@3374jj]

My man!!! Job well done. Liked this type of video.

[@Story53s]

Just changed u joints on my 11 I used the kit for it. It didn’t come with the ring to go between seal and hub. I didn’t put the seal on the axles first and now both side with less than 200 miles are making this noise in 2wd. Guess I’ll be pulling the axles out and do it like you did.

[@johnversluis3084]

man this would help me when I first seal this design back in the early to mid 2004 when there was no special otc seal installers had old ways struggled

[@JeepBigE]

Great video and explanation.👍

[@07glide5]

Great education!! 👍

[@ditchpicklefishing5661]

My 17 250 with 55k had a similar failure, minus the noise. My seal was failing to keep vacuum. It was actually putting the lock out in a bind over time. This would engage the lock out regardless of it is was locked in or not. Wheel bearing was fine.

[@airwalkin]

My 2020 F350 is making this noise with about 30,000kms. I’ve been waiting months for my dealership to get the parts in to repair this, hopefully this is what they ordered!

[@freethinkingamerican80]

Had the same exact issue, had the dealer replace them last December

[@mjc250]

Had a pile of them doing this lately. Even the installed ones failing a few months later and the same problem. Some no noise but 4x4 inop seal spun like that. I think there was a bad batch of seals. New seals don't seem to last

[@Belangerfamilyfun]

My truck started doing this over the winter so thanks for the fix. A question about another issue, the 4x4 won’t engage in cold weather ( minus 20 or colder) I am told this is not unusual in cold weather, help!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

It should be going into 4x4 REGARDLESS of the temp outside

[@Belangerfamilyfun]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod exactly what I thought, I hate to say it but because I’m a female they often take advantage

[@anthonyc993]

Man you are a life saver. My 2020 f250 has been doing this for the past 2 years. I only have 20k miles on my truck.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

3/36 boyyyyyyy

[@josesamaniego874]

Great work! I’m hoping this is my issue. 2020 F350 DWR 139,000 mi- the drivers side makes a noise that sounds like keys jingling on a key ring which usually begins around 40mph. Ive replaced the brake pads and wheel bearing and it is still there.

[@davestewart9146]

On my 06 superduty I need to replace the axle tube dust seals, I need to order the tool and seal kit you used, great video sir

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks brotha

[@marcsheldon6512]

Don't forget the c clip tool! Standard ones won't work. Need the big beefy one....

[@acb2210]

You are incredibly talented

[@ricka5471]

Great diag. I might have suggested the right side to be replaced also. I have a feeling it might be back in soon for the right side. Thanks for showing us this and have yourself A Great Day.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks buddy I really appreciate it. However I can only replace What's broken when it's under warranty I can't just preemptively replace the right side

[@rickcollins1796]

Whenever you have one of these apart be sure to grease the axle bearings. The tapered roller wheel bearings are a sealed unit, but on the inside of the hub is a needle bearing the axle rides on that only turns when in 4 wheel drive.

[@klippelck]

There is nothing that you cannot fix. you are always focused On the alumiduty or super duty hands down your a bad ass Mr A-ROD

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

🫶🫶

[@bradypayne7623]

well said klippelck

[@Texasishot105]

Great video... thank you

[@Gibsonchha]

So professional

[@nysucks4508]

Great video Happy Easter to you and your family

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Same to u pal

[@ddznoche]

Great video! What was the reason for replacement with such few miles.

[@TheLoner801]

I just had to use the 4 wheel drive on my new to me 2019 F350 deisel dually. At speeds more than maneuvering around the driveway, i am hearing a faint screech / squeal. Only in 4x4. Gonna be looking into it soon.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Bet thats it

[@russelldejetley]

I have a 2022 F450 and believe it started making this noise, or I just noticed it since the window was down. Wasn't as loud as this but same area. I'll need to research this further. Thanks for the tip!

[@jod329]

2017 F350 has made that noise since new. Replaced bearings and seals under warranty and still the same issue.

[@ghostpepperrides4805]

Outstanding

[@patriotcanuck6485]

Great job, bud.

[@firstlast---]

You work in a beautiful facility

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@jesseruleman3730]

I would like the center shifter, I only own superduty's but drove a friend's f150 I liked it. I don't need six cup holders in the front.

[@jerryknorr679]

Very nice job, u always make it look so easy. Thanks for sharing ARod

[@sammpofu9265]

I do fleet with 100 super duties I sometimes change them at 20 000 km thanks Ford for keeping us busy

[@michaelbefumo-qg7ji]

I got a truck wasn't 25 years old LOL if those parts would be seized on there. Seems like it came apart like butter good work

[@hphillips7425]

Good video. Explained well. What is the cost for one not under warranty?

[@saleen4399]

I am curious on this as well. I have the noise. Can here it at a slow roll not even when my 4x4 is engaged.

[@ελευθερία-ε2ο]

Yeah, how much?

[@Mr42960]

The round metal shim they give you to use against the drive tool stays in or comes out after the seal is installed? I guess that seal is also responsible for holding the vacuum? Can't remember if vacuum locks or unlocks the hub on the superduty, I think Ford went from one method to the other.

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

Vacuum holds the hubs open (2wd) shifting to 4x4 releases vac. That's why when you have a vac leak sometimes the hubs are trying to half engage and make a grinding sound. The metal ring is for install only so you don't hammer the seal with the install tool.

[@lont.4507]

I just replaced u joint, all the same process though. Mine is 2015 and I believe that the metal ring is a depth spacer only used for the newer trucks. My 15 didn’t require it. Sorry I DONT recall the cut off year.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Your description is for the F150s the Superdurys need vacuum to GI INTO 4x4. Go explanation tho

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Got it. I only have a small fleet of F150s and I assume they SDs operated the same way. The IWE vacuum hubs are the biggest pieces of crap ever. Ever single person I know with them has had at least one fail if not multiples or yearly.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I know. We started plugging off the vacuum ports. There is a TSB on it.

[@rockyroad9709]

THANK YOU 2012 f 450 6.7 i noticed the SAME sound only in the morning when i turned the steering wheel almost full lock to the right, It dont do it no more, seemed to quit on its own BUT if i hear it again ill know. ( I torque EVA-THANG bearing nuts on back side of knuckle, caliper bracket fasteners, lug nuts etc.,) Thanks again

[@KaycieCarryl22654]

Taa-Daa! Very good

[@Mr.J345]

Good to know what it is now, mine makes the same noise with 5k

[@tubewaldo]

Very good vid. I perfer pre 1998 Dana 60s w serviceable wheel bearings,

[@Leebetter]

Agreed. Those were easier to repair, as goes for the Dana 50s of the era.

[@firemedic2572]

My 22 with 12k miles same thing. I will forward this video to the dealer.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes sirrrr

[@McCallieOrchestra]

Great video! I have a 2002 Excursion with 2006 axles and the driver's side makes a similar, loud squeal once every turn but only at slow speeds. Started after a shop installed a new lockout hub. I'm hoping it is just a bent dust shield and have not dealt with it in almost a year and a half. The front axle also makes a loud clunking noise and has movement where the driveshaft goes into the pumpkin so that is a higher priority to fix. If the squeal isn't external, now I know what to suspect. Also, I am jealous, I don't think I ever worked on a vehicle this new or clean.

[@frankjcondon3809]

2020 F350 been making that noise for 20k just had the seal replaced. I smell recall. maybe LOL. just inferior parts being used past 3 plus years.

[@nathanstaab]

They sure haven’t changed those seals much since 1999.. that is a nice tool, always used a 1.5” piece of threaded pipe and pipe flange to set that seal on both the axle and in the housing

[@patriciareynolds2729]

the cheaper seal is too flimsy to drive on with pipe flange without maching lip onto pipe flange!

[@davebane1865]

exactly the same noise on my '22 F250 Tremor... 22k miles

[@wayneo7220]

This video made my day. I have a 2010 F250 with the same noise, but mine just make noise after backing out of my driveway, turning right and starts making the metallic rubbing noise for about 200' then stops. Being in 4WD doesn't really make a difference. I had it in the shop and was sure it was a hub bearing, but the mechanic wasn't sure and didn't make any promises that a new hub was the cure. Sure enough I dropped $1000 on the job but it didn't fix the problem. Now I'm thinking he knew but didn't have the seal installer tool. My speedometer and odometer stopped working a few months ago, just before the squeaking started, and now I wonder if it could have been related to the speed sensor and this bad seal? What do you think? Thanks again for this video.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No it's not related

[@Chubby672]

When setting the seal stub shaft, I just use a press and some old bearing races and use the hub to set the seal in the knuckle. Don’t have fancy tools 🥹

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Was 89 bucks from OTC worth every penny

[@matthewpernat3088]

My brothers 22 was the seal, my 22 they changed the u joint, interesting as I always greased it, toom care of the noise though.

[@todddubler2091]

Ford has used those "rotating seal inside a seal" for a long time. I've never heard the squeal, but they seem to leak a lot more often than just a plain wheel seal. I would think a piece of stamped sheet metal would not make a good sealing surface but admittedly I haven disassembled one to see what the inside is like. There is also a limited lubricant available for the seal which I think contributes to their self destruction.

[@garybruno4360]

When did they start putting grease fittings on the FWD U joints from the factory?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Been!

[@roadglide1142]

Amazing how soon that seal failed 😮

[@terryrobertson8382]

Good job ARod.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey! Thanks

[@mikeleblanc1555]

I have a 2021 250 7.3 tremor front driver side has squealed from day one

[@akbychoice]

Does that spacer when driving the new part in stay in place?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No, gets discarded

[@juansebastianlopez8828]

Thanks for the video. I just replaced my upper and lower ball joints on both sides in my 2010, so I obviously had to do ALL of that and more while replacing them. I wish I would have seen your video first 😅. Quick question, when I re-installed the shaft, it went in easily, but I didn't get the other wheel to turn, did I do something wrong? I haven't had any issues while driving it. Also I put it on 4x4 but I don't know how to actually test it without putting it up in the air 😂. Thanks in advance.

[@joshuanickerson1108]

I had a rock stuck in between the rotor and backing plate made the same noise. Lol took for ever to figure it out

[@magnuseriksson5721]

❤❤🎉nl nice 👌 work. Dr Aaron do it again

[@AonGuardian]

Sounds like an ominous banshee approaching 😂

[@conbonesthevoid1448]

love my new F350 this thing is a beast.

[@DanKnapp-t5c]

Yeah, I have the same noise on a 2022 f350 gasser with 15k miles. Seems to be a 4x4 vacuum line issue as well at cold temps (well below zero).

[@electrake2063]

Mine has never had this problem. Oh, that,s right, I don't have a vacuum seal for my vacuum controlled hub on my 2003 Dodge 4x4, I added manual lockouts from Yukon and they work great all the time. What a messed up system Ford put into their hubs. These things don't work whenever you need them, and you don't find out until you need them you need to go out and manually lock them anyway!

[@bradwlyon]

I have a 2022 F-350 Platinum 6.7 with just 15,000 miles on it. I’m 1,800 miles from home on vacation in Yellowstone, and it’s making this noise in both 2 and 4 wheel drive.

[@ws2664]

Great vid, I haven't one yet, can't wait. Would you know how many hour's that job pays?

[@Alignmentguy]

That is the sound of the needle bearings turning to powder…