Looking over a 53 Cessna 180, talking about it and doing wheel and three point landings.

[@lynnshawback9055]

1954 Cessna 180. Sportsman STOL kit 40 mph on landing with no vg’s. 0470R (4 ring pistons) 230 HP @ 2600 rpm. This engine is bulletproof and with twin mufflers the sound is incredible. 10 gph @ 12k feet.

[@garyowen9044]

Gorgeous airplane!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Yes it was.

[@albertogarciaarango2411]

One of the most wonderful C-180, CONGRATULATIONS!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thank you very much.

[@philbrammer3632]

One of my favorite bits was the look to camera on alumin*i*um

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

I used the word of my people.

[@billybud9557]

I wonder when the IO 470 first became available to replace the old A......a significant improvement I think......Mark, you are the best at this. Thanks

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Remember that no 180's were ever IO. Only ever 0-470's not injected. This one in this video was a conversion to IO.

[@billybud9557]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 thanks, ya I was thinking of an STC for IO-470 like in Katmai

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

"Slightly exaggerated"...nice skill there holding her up with the brakes...great video, and as usual I learned something.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thanks. Hard on the brakes but once in a while is OK.

[@DJewell]

Thanks for showing this 180. It was the second plane I got check out in 50 years ago, but not modified

[@joer5571]

Beautiful! I owned N1594C, a ‘53, forty years ago for several years, still miss it…

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

They are great planes, the old 180's.

[@rontwa3493]

I soloed in 1954 in a 120. I also flew a 170, 180 and a 195 thanks for the memories

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thanks for watching.

[@easttexan2933]

gorgeous airplane. love the upgrades. flew 170s and 140s on fire patrol here in east texas back in the 60s. great airplanes. never had the extra money to burn up brakes with on wheel landings. now that is impressive.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Ha ha only every now and then when a camera is watching.

[@kevinvoges3447]

Skywagon University is easily my favorite KZbin video. Thank you, Mark! Although I'm a rookie tailwheel pilot just flying my 0-550 Skywagon 180 for 11 months since 7/9/21, your description of the landings is exactly how Adam Webster, another expert Skywagon driver, trained me through emails/phone call. I'm mostly a mains lander myself, trim for a little backpressure, give it a little throttle (about 11.5 MP), pull throttle upon touchdown and let the tail come down on its own. 'Thought you'd be interested in my speeds: 1. BEFORE Sportsman and BEFORE VGs: 90 knots downwind, 80 knots base, 70 knots final, 63 knots over the fence 2. AFTER Sportsman (12/20) and BEFORE VGs: 85 knots downwind, 75 knots base, 65 knots final, 56 knots over the fence 3. AFTER Sportsman ((12/20) and AFTER VGs (6/21): 80 downwind, 70 knots base, 60 knots final, 48 - 50 knots over the fence (touching down just around 42 knots) What an amazing design that I can fly 150 knots with Texas Skyway 0-550, 1200 lbs useable (once I add Kenmore STC in two weeks on my float kit '79 [never been on floats]), 84 useable gallons, and can land in 400'. No, I don't miss my Cirrus Gen 5 whatsoever! Keep up the great work and the very cool subtle humor. May God continue to bless you.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

I know Adam, say Hi to him from me. Your numbers are very interesting, thank you.

[@blancolirio]

Excellent! You got this! This is exactly what I had in mind of what you could do on KZbin with all your experience selling these aircraft.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thanks Juan. It is surprisingly fun doing it.

[@ronboe6325]

Gotta love these old classics.

[@envitech02]

This thing is an absolute beaut!!!! Its so shiny and looks like it just came off the factory! Unbelievable!!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Stunning plane.

[@anthonycyr9657]

Just love the stance of the 180 and 185, very first plane ride was in an a185f and will forever be a fan of the type, for my use tho, id buy a 182, turbo if i could.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

I agree. They just look nasty standing there.

[@bernardanderson3758]

Mark wow!!!! This 53 is Beautiful Aircraft

[@lynnshawback9055]

One passenger,(Alaska fly and shoot same day airborn) 8 caribou in the back and half tanks at Illiamna I wondered how my 54 would land with little fuel , aft cg , at King Salmon with Trim all the way forward. My air buddies said to land a little faster with 1 notch or no flaps. You can take your feet off the rudder, they said! I landed a little fast, 3 point, 70ish mph and my 54 Cessna 180 tracked straight as an arrow! I did not take my feet off the rudder pedals, but, hardly no inputs. 67 years old and this airplane keeps amazing me! Keep the good work!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Somebody in 1953 in Kansas did indeed have a very good idea and built the 180.

[@martinbelisle4961]

Beautiful beautiful plane!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Yes indeed!

[@glock40armor3]

Nice job Mark !

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@tjcrocker443]

That c180 is definitely a performer. Great Video, killing it again with the drone shots. I appreciate the work that goes into these videos and enjoy herearing the aviation story about the deer.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

There have been a few deer here, before the fence that did get chopped.

[@rogerdixon3700]

Nice to hear aluminum pronounced properly.!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

I know, right?

[@moriver3857]

Beautiful indeed. Well done.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Jerrylumdegaard]

Beautiful airplane !!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

It really is!

[@vgrof2315]

Thanks. Love that airplane.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Me too!

[@ADAPTATION7]

Beautiful classic. I liked watching your wheels landing. Very neat.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thanks.

[@russpury]

Very nice video of a really beautiful 180. 3 blade prop makes takeoff much quieter.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Altogether an excellent plane.

[@12345fowler]

3 pointers anytime baby.

[@leeadams5941]

Loved this as it brought back a bunch of memories....I actually taught myself how to do wheel landings after watching others do it. Was fortunate to have a old Navy outlying field {Santa Rosa} that was rarely used so I use to use that a lot to practice. Only ground looped it once...and other than scare the hell out of me did no damage.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Glad that you liked it.

[@BIGJOESXR]

The story about the deer just made this my favorite video you've produced to date! Previously it was videos on the 182 RG because they did a lot to convince me to purchase my TR182. Keep it up!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Venison all over he runway. It was a close one.

[@ronaldhealy4466]

Gorgeous airplane! I'm not a bush pilot, but I do live in Alaska. :) I'm told pilots tend to do wheel landings on long, smooth runways (asphalt or dirt), but three point landings on anything rough. Kinda makes sense.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Yes, pretty much.

[@quikstop4347]

Fantastic plane, as a relative newcomer to tail draggers I find acquiring the skill set to fly competently is what makes this type of flying very rewarding. Your demonstration just reinforces that view... well done Mark!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Taildraggers are great,

[@HoussineDaghari]

​@@skywagonuniversity5023 55

[@daedaluscan]

That is a very clean airplane. As I tell anyone who will listen to me (I have a 56 170), "What are we building today that will be a functional tool in 65 years". Truly classic design and engineering.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

I don't think that Cessna even had any idea that their planes would still be around so long after they were made, all planes in fact.

[@wayneschenk5512]

Loved that door.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

It was a quality piece of work.

[@DWBurns]

Stunning aircraft.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

It really is.

[@jimkimmel3106]

Once again, nice job Mark.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ShadOband]

And I even love the paint scheme...

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Me too.

[@frankbacon245]

Also, in my early years, an Aeronca Champ was $4 an hour wet, $3 more for an instructor. I sold my last 180 in 1970 for $7000.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Those were the days

[@mitchschneringer]

That is a SWEET 180! And a really nicely done video, thank you for posting.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Glad you liked it!

[@dogismycoolpilot9662]

Nice looking 53 and great video. Highly recommend learning the MAF wheel landing technique. Tail is slightly low prior to mains touching with some power. This technique allows for a slower speed wheel landing. Properly executed it will be a shorter roll than a 3 point since there is better braking action on the mains. I have 1958 C180A - Sportsman STOL kit TS O520 UTS . Love flying it. A well executed short distance wheel landing is a thing of beauty. Three points have there place when needed.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Yes, a tail low wheel landing can go either way, sag into a three point or ride up into a full tail high wheeler depending on what you want to do. Most three points are really very tail low wheel landings for a second if you look just before the tail lands. MAF Do have a LOT of experience.

[@stihlnz]

That's a beautiful airplane ... My 53 appreciates a tail low landing, I find if I try to wheel it and get it slightly wrong a bounce is the result .. seems to work tail low ..you're slower ... stall warning on the last few feet and you're on the ground. as you said once landed you can go back on the mains if you need forward viz @@skywagonuniversity5023

[@SVSky]

Beautiful plane, I prefer threepoint but will do wheel landings when it's cross or gusty.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Nice thing about taildraggers is the huge window of speeds for landing. In a 180 or 185 you could land at 90 on the mains if you want to. You could also land at 40 with a STOL kit and power and drag it in and dump the flaps in a really short three point. 50 Kt window of options.

[@viper_twig]

Awesome! I have a deposit on a '53 180. Looking forward to learning and flying it. Watching all your videos in the mean time

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Let me know what you think about it.

[@brent1041]

Another delightful video. I would like to see some experimental plane video’s from you. Especially since that’s where most of the GA action is today.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

We will try.

[@toddprifogle7381]

Most excellent presentation !

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Glad you liked it!

[@chrissanchez9935]

Thank You for the video.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

You're welcome

[@bigmuz_pilot]

Fantastic, love your videos man!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thanks

[@19211926]

Beautiful airplane. I thought it wasn't until later that they called then Skywagons?

[@towcub]

Well yeah but it’s such a good name! It says on the cover of the operating handbook that my ‘56 is endowed with the name Business Liner. I’m sure that is the original moniker for a ‘53 as well.

[@dozermedic18]

Mark, very nice rollout from your wheel landing. And nice drone coverage. Thanks for the demo!

[@md4droid]

I really want to add a tail wheel rating to my training now. Nice plane! Thanks for providing Great content. :)

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Go for it!

[@ldbrush9941]

Absolutely stunning airplane.

[@jameslake5241]

Great video, thanks Mark

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@parqld]

Mark, excellent videos, enjoying leaning about the history of these great planes👍🇦🇺🇺🇸

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Glad you like them!

[@Sports-Jorge]

Your channel is very underrated. Been watching a couple months and finally subscribed. In the US prices are skyrocketing. Think you could do a video on some economical tail wheels and what they’re each good at?

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thanks. I do not know how to promote the channel other than make more and more videos. We have a Citabria video in the pipeline.

[@SVSky]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Yay! My chosen mount most of the time. Looking forward to it.

[@josesbox9555]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Citabria is a great little airplane

[@rmiller640]

Nicely done Mark Watched your video and ran out the door to take the 54 180 out to breakfast. My instructor showed me the wheel landing from day 1 20 years ago and is what I prefer. Look forward to visiting you early July on Nor cal swing

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Excellent.

[@pablogonzalez8884]

What a beautiful plane!!! From Argentina I want to send you my congratulations and encourage you to continue doing this great work. The videos are very entertaining and educational. Keep in that way. Greetings!!!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thank you for watching all the way in Argentina.

[@speedbirdpdx]

Great video! I only had a few minutes to skim this one yet ended up watching the entire thing, just not possible to stop. Well done! It's been fun watching 'the formula' for these videos come together, I hope you'll keep at it! Picking up on Chris Ryan's topic; Other than AC prices, I wonder if tailwheel aircraft are becoming more cost-prohibitive for low hour pilots insurance-wise as well.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

That is great that you watched it all. Thanks. I don't think that it's any more insurance than anything else. All insurance is up which is a great pity considering that this plane is 67 years old and there are no 67 year old cars on the road so it must be pretty safe.

[@andrewalexander9492]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 I'd cheerfully bet my next paycheck that there are more registered, running cars 67 years old than 180's

[@bernardanderson3758]

This one could be the one

[@federicofernandez1361]

Wish I still had my Skyhawk XP

[@davidandrews1659]

Beautiful.......loose cowling screw in front of pilot

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thank you. yes, screws. Camlocks cam in in 1961. Or they can be retrofitted.

[@bernardanderson3758]

Mark I’ll let you know how my landings are in the 170 and again I’ll continue to using a little bit of back pressure as well to see what happens for me

[@chester8420]

I've really enjoyed your videos! They are fun to watch and informative. I have a 3000ft strip on our farm and I would love to have a 172. I've seen your listings on tradeaplane. Maybe I'll buy one from you sometime if we have a few good crop years!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Anytime. Thanks,

[@chester8420]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Come visit me sometime @ 5GA6!

[@jefferykirk2322]

Woooow , a elbow grease go's a long way.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

You have to live in a dry climate to maintain a shine like that.

[@bidlymovies987]

Haha, I had a similar experience with a deer while wheel landing. I was in a Citabria at night. When the deer came into the landing light beam I had enough energy to pull up over the animal and add power for a go around. A 3 point landing would not have provided that option.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Same deal. So, in deer country, do wheel landings.

[@danielconte3244]

Very good video Mark !! I found your videos very interesting because you touch technical and style aspects of those beauty.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thank you very much.

[@toddprifogle7381]

Im just bouncing through videos and i see this beautiful aircraft . Look at those flaps . What year is this ? Oh a 53 Beautiful ! OK , yes , i will subscribe . Please Do Not slam those doors For Real ! And yes again, Most Excellent Presentation! Thank You.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thank you very much.

[@deernation9326]

Mark, how could you? On your second take off you called it a Skylane? lol, Nice SKYWAGON.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Maybe I panicked under the pressure.

[@nadonp]

Beautiful airplane! Thanks for the inspirational video. Glad that a J is OK on my '55:) Looks like that replacement gear is canted forward like the later models? Keep em coming!!!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thanks for watching!

[@Plydrms]

What a beauty..I like the green trim! What airport are you flying at?

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Placerville in Northern California

[@ditto1958]

I realize that tricycle gear to tail dragger gear is a lot like auto vs. manual car transmissions… people aren’t going back to stick shifts, and most pilots aren’t going to learn to fly tail draggers… but it’s still kinda sad that 170’s and 180’s aren’t made any more. Beautiful airplanes.

[@mts592]

👍👍

[@frankbacon245]

Dragging it in that low, especially with such miserable terrain before the runway is such a bad idea. Go out and do 10 T & Gs with the engine at idle below pattern altitude and you will get used to a much safer approach. That's how I learned to fly (1957) and taught (1962 - 1966).

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

The approach is not actually that low. The wide angle camera flattened out makes it look like that.

[@paulbickley658]

Nice, I like the color. I would buy it if you wanted to sell it. Great Video...

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thanks. It was for sale and it now lives in Idaho.

[@paulbickley658]

He is a lucky guy

[@georgemixelogj9749]

Where is this road that you keep taxiing planes on? Amazing videos thank you!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

It's an unused access road to an area of un-built hangars at Placerville airport. Scenic backdrop with no clutter.

[@bernardanderson3758]

I want to join you on the next one and what are you going to list the purchase retail price on the 53 180 ?

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Bernard, It has already sold.

[@davidduganne5939]

Man that is gorgeous. Love your drone shots in this one. Would that engine have been in a C-310 or Bonanza?

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

It's the IO-470F at 260 HP so most likely in a Cessna 206 or 1961 to 1966 Cessna 185 because the oil cooler is at the front and the alternator at the back. Not a Bonanza, but maybe an early 310, yes.

[@davidduganne5939]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thanks...

[@davidcampbell2845]

Nice!

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Thanks!

[@MartyDidier]

Nicely done Plane. Speaks volumes of being meticulously cared for. Question... When polishing wouldn’t it be necessary to spray a thick Clear Coat to help seal everything? How much are you asking for it?

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

For some reason clear-coat does not work. It does not stay on and you cannot prime it. It was sold several months ago.

[@MartyDidier]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thank you for the reply... Aluminum’s Surface when exposed to Oxygen quickly Oxides. This may be the cause. However, always check because new developments may have answered this problem. Spraying test pieces with an Epoxy mixture that adheres to Aluminum might help. Realize there is a fabulous market waiting for answers as older Aluminum Planes deteriorate with time. Who comes up with answers will be fabulously wealthy!

[@MartyDidier]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Comparing overall designs, Composites are rumored to be 6x’s stronger then Aluminum. Of course we don’t have examples of 50Years to compare with, but initial testing shows promise. Production Molds are majorly expensive. Saving older Aluminum Designs is really a race against time. Most All metals Work Hardens causing cracks leading to breakages. Corrosion erodes material thickness thus increasing possible failure. Currently Aluminum parts assembled with fasteners ie rivets, bolts, have worked but appear to a major source for corrosion over time. This is why sealing the assembly is important.

[@MartyDidier]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 If my memory serves me right, an epoxy paste is used to glue Wing forms to an Aluminum Tube spar on Homebuilt Kitfox STOL Planes. They prep the Aluminum prior to using the epoxy paste. Oxide prepping the Aluminum? The Paste before and after curing is black. I’m thinking this assembly method must be dependable if used on holding Wing forms to a Spar. There has got to be some way and method to seal up an Aluminum built Plane!

[@Artiscrafty]

M,ore 180s

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

OK ;-)

[@noooby100]

Been living in Canada for 14 years and I still say Aluminium :) Where do you hail from originally?

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

England and Scotland originally. Over here a long long time though.

[@noooby100]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Jolly good. Ex-pat Kiwi here.

[@lynnkanable7023]

Stall speed, how many gallons per hour burn, please.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Stall with flaps is about 45 Kts and it burns about 11 Gallons per hour in cruise.

[@paulbickley658]

I am curious do you have use recreational license since you have no updated navigation?

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

I have a regular Private license. Navigation is by aiming at distant mountains and find tuning it when I get nearer. Plus portable Nav (phone) Garmin.

[@New2Me170B]

This guy's phone goes off in every video. Standard boomer with his phone not on silent. Love the videos, though.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

We don't know what a boomer is, but it doesn't sound complimentary. Glad you like the videos.

[@New2Me170B]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 More than just like, love. Boomer is a part of the Baby Boomer generation. People born between 1946 and 1964.

[@hotttt28]

For sale? If so how much?

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

This aircraft sold some time ago. Sorry.

[@Conn653]

NICE!!!!!!!! (drool)

[@Jack-ne8vm]

If John Deere made planes....

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

Very true. Old, rugged, hard working, reliable, GREEN. Runs like a Deer, not into a deer etc

[@Cwra1smith]

I never fly anything older than me.

[@skywagonuniversity5023]

How old are you?

[@Cwra1smith]

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Actually I'm 70 and my flying days are over (vertigo). All metal fatigues with age just like me.