Producing A Song On an OLDSKOOL Commodore 64 With MSSIAH

[@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER]

FOR THE ACTUAL SONG YOU CAN SKIP TO 11:30 , also available like all the audio content in my vids on my patreon (Y) :). Also a thing to note, the tactic i went with this song was to use the 2 sid chips ass less of more parts in the music, but to fatten the sound. Each sid has matching drums to try and get them a bit more thumping, aswell as matching but detuned bass lines! so with this approach im still using the same tactic of dicing in parts of the different melody lines in between each other and stuff to make the most of the limited track space

[@ICM3]

3rd view.. noice!

[@nobodynowhere5213]

first

[@aianyoung]

I love the C64. A "hand-me-down" C64 was my first computer.

[@GadgetUK164]

Can you make this available as a .sid file? Awesome work!

[@theclovercross]

Christ I couldn't sit down listening to this!! Is this something that will come with those audio downloads through your patreon?

[@Hainbach]

Love the final track, I would play the hell out of that game.

[@mons.romerodurante8086]

Seeing some kind of a Backlash™ reverse kickstarter campaign. Music, FMV and FX all ready before the script. A bit like _The Avengers_ franchise really. I do hope you'll be handling the atmospheric soundscapes - in 7.1 surround!

[@MeriaDuck]

I would start it just for the music (like I did quite often)

[@philoffhistree]

that cant happen as you need two cid chips other wise i would write a game for it

[@khalnetherfields7263]

HAINBACH!?!?!

[@sintramdragonis4794]

My thought exactly :P

[@samjones7534]

Look mum, computer!

[@GabREAL1983]

this was probably funny on the first video he made on apple/cubase some weeks ago wich he even mentioned in this video

[@samjones7534]

@@GabREAL1983 thanks for the heads up, haven't seen that one yet!

[@janwiersma1449]

look mum, a REAL computer.!!!

[@stuartburnell2898]

is this live from a special school

[@solunasunrise]

have a view mother, no data processing machine !

[@theohughes74]

Brilliant! As an old fart who used to program music on my Commie this was refreshing to watch and brought back a lot of memories. Sid 4 life.

[@CJWarlock]

Awesome! I'm from the Commodore 64 demoscene and I like what you've composed here. Thank you for the video and of course thank you for the music. :)

[@johnnypatterson77]

That was so damn impressive man I can't believe you made that on a Commodore 64, I bow down to you my good sir that was awesome.

[@nawletorre7136]

normal c64 + 2 sid

[@nneeerrrd]

Amazing how capable this 8 bit machine still is in 2019 if coupled with proper software and right hands on it!

[@onkelberra3166]

Old, not obsolete ;)

[@saam6768]

"right hands" is the important part.

[@miggychan]

Not just this, the Gameboy coupled with MGB, and the Nes paired with Famimimidi /Midines allow you to use those as midi synths too with controllable parameters

[@dirkmaes3786]

Those SID chips are amazing, especially the 'flawed' 6581.

[@KingMob4313]

There's a bit of cheating here - no 64 had 2 sid chips stock.

[@n00bzCAM]

The 8-Bit Guy would really love this video

[@matszh]

Ritvik Chitram Actually, he’s recently been consulted in Doctor Mix’s similar C64 project, see kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWfceK2rjKmogtE

[@Nukle0n]

He never did his own video on the Mssiah lol

[@astronichols1900]

8-Bit Guy would piss himself when those jack holes were drilled, then want to fix it with retrobright.

[@Spintechfilms]

I was thinking PerryFractic from RetroRecipies

[@CB3ROB-CyberBunker]

the 8 bit guy would try to retrobrite the yellow off.

[@IntiArtDesigns]

That's so dope! 8 hours well spent. You outdid yourself on that one. Beautiful composition.

[@IntiArtDesigns]

\Backlash

[@TheBaconWizard]

Mate, you are absolutely the right kind of nuts.

[@RetroPlus]

TheBaconWizard indeed!

[@emilyschmanks]

videos like these remind me there are people on youtube that actually know how to make music and arent just about 'lol look at this niche product bleep bloop'

[@Supadude]

Bleep bloop? Bleep blorp bleop!

[@emilyschmanks]

@@Supadude blip blorp

[@Supadude]

@@emilyschmanks brup broop blepidy bleep

[@crazy-4-cooking]

have you heard about lukhash? You should listen to some of his stuff made with C64 and Game Boys. I am sure you will like it.

[@EllisDee2236]

@@crazy-4-cooking aggree & the lvl is much higher!

[@aidenwoulffe3704]

please don't call 2010 "ten years ago". I can't handle that.

[@charlotteice5704]

Yes, it's 9 years ago.

[@odindimartino597]

Next year, maybe

[@Kalumbatsch]

I was born right when the C64 came out. That was like yesterday.

[@KuraIthys]

You think that's bad? In my memory the SNES sitting on my desk is a 'recent' thing. It's not. It's 29 years old. >__

[@CoenBijpost]

Everything after the 2000s has just happened a few days ago for me. The only things that happened a few years ago are the whole 80s and 90s.

[@lordsqueak]

OMG this sounds so much like a classic C64 song ! Friggin' nailed it!

Guys, imagine every youtuber had quality content as good as LMNC

[@djtaitai]

Starkregen 🤔🤤🤯

[@Kalumbatsch]

Right now the like/dislike ratio is infinity :D

[@onkelberra3166]

No need for Netflix then ;)

[@patrickp.9120]

LMNC would be a successful game music composer back in the 80s !

[@speakertomeat]

He could still be, the mod community has dwindled but still exists, only lmnc is more a hardware guy than mod guy, and I approve of that, we need a little of everything

[@thewolfin]

Combine microcontroller VGA graphics with 8bit microcontroller chiptune organ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX-moqWvobOMY5I & kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2LTlJumealoe7c

[@jaylinsa]

Except software like this didn't exist back then, they had to code all the music for games

[@robjanssen7420]

@@jaylinsa Not software like this, but several people did build their own tracker software to make things easier. That way it was also possible to re-use sound routines. Of course, these tools were not always commonly shared and probably had some rough edges, but still.

[@Oxxygen_io]

retro games still rock. and they need retro music

[@OrderoftheWarlocks]

I'm not ready for the Wilderbeast

[@OrderoftheWarlocks]

Okay, now I'm ready

[@MattGrayYES]

I love the sound of a SID chip! (Amusing considering my namesake is known for his C64 game music)

[@Matthewsavant]

Glad to see MSSIAH finally catching on, I bought mine back in 2008 and I’ve always been surprised at the lack of content out there from other users

[@Are8Lian]

There's something so dirty and beautiful about the SID-chip when used correctly. I'm not even nostalgic about it, cause I never had a C64 as a kid. Great stuff!

[@AA-iq6ev]

12:40 goose bump moment start :=)Remindes me of my favorite artist back in the days"maktone"

[@TimeMachineMechanic]

I need this on Spotify haha xD What an amazingly nice sounding song! Incredible what you were able to create on the Commodore 64

[@yonasx]

me too!

[@TheRetroEngine]

Lovely deep tune. Great, catchy riffs. Can't believe I haven't seen this before!!!

[@AriaPosting]

Having watched you for a while, I'm starting to recognize your music and things you do specifically which is real neat. Even in this outrun type genre I can still tell that you've made it. Funny how that works.

[@Technokrat1981]

I really would never forget the good old commodore 64... it gave me the kickstart into computing as I was seven years old. Nice to hear and see, that people around the word still using it in some way... but drilling trough their case gave me goosebumps :D Nice Song, great channel, great guy!

[@davedogge2280]

The C64's SID chip is like a flute, it's a musical instrument with a unique sound that will be around 1000s of years.

[@davetbassbos]

I agree, although like 303, 808 etc a lot of people will have to use samples or emulations

[@autumnbrushtail]

@@davetbassbos Plogue is planning on making one of those, so hopefully it won't be too bad quality. their Porta FM synth is pretty neat

[@whisk0r]

@@autumnbrushtail They already did :) It's good enough that I took my sidi2sid/mssiah rig out of my midi rack.

[@autumnbrushtail]

@@whisk0r I know about Chipsounds, but they're actually planning on making another under a line of plugins known of Chipsynth. Porta FM being the only available synth available under that line so far. Be that as it may, Chipsounds is very neat from what I've seen at least

[@whisk0r]

@@autumnbrushtail Really good sid functionality in Chipsounds. Looking forward to more great stuff from them.

[@MrStevon123]

You ended up with such a cool sounding track. As always, thanks, for keeping it informative, creative, and through it all, very musical.

[@directionlessstudios7210]

Great song!! You’ve done a lot more with MSSIAH than I ever could.

[@HeyJellyBear]

Nice! I've had an old C64 and Sid2Sid sat on my desk for years now waiting for me to set it up and write on it :D

[@nanisilverstone]

So, this is how Keygen music are made... insteresting :)

[@BobsBand]

No that would be done on soundtrackers, which are based on samples. (All digital.)

[@A-bt9nz]

milkytracker gang

[@antivanti]

@@BobsBand Not all trackers are based on samples. There are trackers for C64 and even for making chip music on PC that use generated instruments rather than samples

[@DeMOSic465]

@@A-bt9nz openmpt gang

[@NihilQuest]

The ending of the track sounds heavy, man! Great stuff.

[@GadgetUK164]

Awesome!!!! Great to see you using the C64!

[@Nostrum84]

My god I love the SID sound :)) was wondering about the richness at first, but then I remembered you are using TWO SIDs here = 6 channels.

[@khajrane]

this absolutely fantastic, thank you for making this video!

[@edtuckerartist]

When you switched on the filter - Wow much joy to hear.

[@davetbassbos]

Fantastic tune, really playing to the character of the sounds!

[@f1lupo]

great stuff! Last time I spent an entire day messin with MSSIAH and at best got a few minutes of ‘decent’ SID sounds so kudos to you man!

[@my4trackmachine]

Wow. I never had the patience to deal with the MSSIAH. I always preferred trackers. I am impressed with you resolve to actually push through the workflow.

[@helter2K10]

Brilliant - can’t believe that you directly entered all those arpeggiated runs and the sounds were a smorgasbord of classic C64 game tones - hats off to you good sir ... amazing as always

[@PrizePirate]

You're honestly some kind of genius man

[@rachidvanheyningen]

He'd basically be Nicola Tesla or Alessandro Volta if he lived back then

[@Bananeisafree]

the sync between the beat and the screen flickering is just gorgeous !

[@Chase4478]

Dude some game company should hire you to make a soundtrack. You could do such an amazing job :D

[@crazygamingswede]

Awesome job on the tune mate! Brings me back to my childhood days.

[@AlejandroRodriguez-ux8kz]

I don't know anything about old computers and music, but damn, this is amazing

[@Pehmokettu]

I respect your opinion! I spent my childhood playing C64 games and when I try to play the old C64 songs or modern C64 remixes to younger people than me they usually hate the sound of C64. So it is always nice to see younger people who like C64 music. :)

[@dawlessstrolling5306]

I love the fact that its hardcore programmed. I started in '98 with Fasttracker 2 and in the beginning I didn't know how to copy a pattern, so I programmed every single pattern again. And from there go back to 10 years earlier electronic music making and then ten years.... Just to say to the youngsters that you're unbelievingbly *spoiled* :P

[@SatanicJamnic]

Look mum, old computer

[@daxhays9177]

That song was badass! Seriously! That took some patience and love to make that, sir! I salute you!

[@mons.romerodurante8086]

Not to detract from the awesome-ness of this tutorial, the SID and 8bit scene in general, there will always be a need for keygen soundtracks, but ... Professor Abrasive and his mod for the _Sega Saturn_ promises 32 programmable FM operators with asynchronous PCM playback. It could be like 5 Volcas and a rompler in one black / grey box.

[@kaitlyn__L]

Damn, that's a lot of operators.

[@m8roj28]

You seriously should be making more C64 tunes like this, utterly butterly mate !!!

[@jujuledruide6385]

exxxxccccllleeennntttttt lot of flashback ! thx for sharing ! NB : i start music on amiga 500 ^^

[@DigitalMusicXpress]

Loved this, so awesome, I have a working C64c but incredibly scared to do ANYTHING on it. I also have a working Amiga 1200 but I'm such a noob I never figured out how to work it yet... One day!

[@mb2776]

Time to dust of my c64 with mssiah and connect that to my atari 1040 ste with cubase 3.1^^

[@theshyguy1580]

you still have a akai s900 to connect it too?

[@mb2776]

@@theshyguy1580 no s900, but a s950 ;)

[@theshyguy1580]

@@mb2776 Good enough!!

[@-GA-MancsFinest]

@@mb2776 ,lol how 90's i had 2 s950's with a 1040st ,and then bought a roland s760 fully loaded with mixer cost me about £3500 in total back in the day...,yes i still have my 3 samplers but i dont even use them ,cubase used to be the industry standard ,now more switched over to logic and Ableton Live , look up "BRUCE LEE (1984) - LukHash REMIX (performed by 🐼 Kung Foo Panda) or LukHash // COMMODORE 64 LIVE DEMO or C64 Alien (1984) 👽 LIVE you be amazed ,its not just about the sid chip think he uses messiah and synthcart

[@mb2776]

@@-GA-MancsFinest those s950's have some good sound, maybe u can reactivate them;) I know luckhash, he was the reason i got myself a mssiah cartridge

[@Lagrange_Point_6]

First rate top tune. Loved it. Well done. Totally takes me back!

[@stephensteele2844]

awesome! im building your ms20 filter today!

[@kennethgroves6552]

Brilliant! Once again. Thank you for inspiring me to buy 2 synthesizers. Next I'm going to build one. Awesome channel!

[@djquantize]

V Cool. Giving Rob Hubbard a run for his money there.

[@dbr550]

This channel reminds me of the 90s shows about video games and tech I would watch as a kid. Love it!

[@gorillaxrich]

Sounds like an awesome Nintendo game... So impressed with your work...

[@adroharv9213]

those 3 extra voices sure help out and I'd imagine using this cart to be quite an enjoyable time. Decent effort too

[@FSK1138]

can you do "modern gas" on the 64?

[@niklaswejedal463]

As awesome as expected - we are getting so spolied here! Loving this!

[@ofadetergentsud]

The track is so good it makes me tear up but maybe its the weed. XD

[@firstlast-gh9ig]

It gave me goosebumps! I'm 45, so it may have touched some subconscious musical memories.

[@dayglo98]

haha I laughed out loud at that, thanks

[@andersdenkend]

What a great tune that is. As proficient he is with the soldering iron and general electrical engineering, it amazes me even more of what an awesome musician this guy actually is.

[@ozzelot3349]

I AM ALWAYS READY FOR THE WILDEBEEST!

[@mons.romerodurante8086]

But is _Pete from the street_ ready for the Wildebeest ?

[@czeDarkLight]

I was truly hoping for altered intro of yours, Sam. "I'm LOOK MUM .... COMPUTER". Noice! Great 10 years old retro mod comeback on even older tech throwback, love it! It's unbelievable what stuff on old tech with new software can be achieved by!

[@oliverhilton6086]

Smh what's mum gonna say when she sees the computer

[@CyberWallX]

its actually kind of awesome to still being able to spot connections between the very origins of cubase´s interface and the interface of my 8.35 copy. like eg piano roll and the optical timescale between bars. still loyal to their basic designs, i love it

[@henrykhenrykowski2745]

Ask SAM* to do vocals for it! * no pun intended.... maybe not ;p

[@svenningk]

This was fantastic! Loved the song to bits (pun slightly intended). Would love to record a cover of this, actually. Thanks for the music and videos, keep up the great work!

[@KudlatyBJ]

SZTOS!

[@philgoodwill848]

I loved that video from top to bottom. The song is amazing and the zoom... I sit here flabbergasted by the dramatic zoom. Wild genius. I love the way you deconstruct synths, it's totally amazing for me, when I look at a nice synth I think of the enormous possibilities of different sounds that can be made and here you are thinking of ultra dimensional ways of going so much farther. It's nice. It's crazy. It's like, why not put some chip on a lawnmower and mow the lawn with a midi controller and when you play Beethoven it moves on every inch of the green surface? You're like the mad max of synths.

[@ObsoleteVodka]

[insert unfunny and unoriginal joke about Sam using a computer]

[@the_psychedelic_lucario]

OMG! I make a comment about it, and you actually go and make a video about it. You truly are an awesome dude! And this song rocks by the way! Very inspirational as well!

[@JaceCavacini]

I wish I was as free-flowing as you. You seem to be a funny combo of impatient and patient, because I would never be able to work with this retro clumsiness any more (I started putting a retro studio collection together and had to give up because of the lack of proper storage devices to run software from, and I cannot afford the new retro tech made to solve this issue). My retro studio plan was a failure. Though, it was never a good idea because, like you said in a later video: use a more modern computer! I did retro computers when I was 12 and no longer have that patience. Nostalgia can be a trap. I always notice how beat up and dirty your stuff is. While part of me is appalled, another part (the part of me that likes the Max Headroom TV series) loves how rough your stuff is. It definitely looks lived with. Mine’s pristine (until some random accident scratches something and I get pissed)... where as you don’t seem to give a fuck. Your stuff is oozing with character. It looks like art. You seem to have fun and just PLAY, which I don’t really know how to do any more (so much control and so little fun). But you just kind of beat on things and screw with them... though you can fix shit if you break it and I can’t (tried to learn a little electronics ages ago and my brain just doesn’t cope with math/numbers and my hands shake so soldering is a PITA). Anyway, your videos are entertaining me and I’m sort experiencing this stuff vicariously through your project videos. Thanks! If I wasn’t in poverty, I’d send you a patreon donation. Do you do well for yourself? I’m assuming you don’t live in that garage... Sorry for the fucking novel.

[@mattmorphett]

Thanks!

[@mtbevins]

Brilliant! Very creative and original.

[@SXTransmission]

Interesting how it still sounds like LMNC, regardless of the hardware/software. As soon as you fiddled with the PWM and filter at the start of the process, it was you! Great work, inspiring as ever.

[@infn8loopmusic]

Those volumes swells are killer with all that modulation. Nailed it

[@texacomann]

Perfect well done! Not only Technical, also Musical, great work. And I like your Show!

[@solunasunrise]

probably the best looking C64 out there at the moment (the yellow one in the beginning)... most rad looking !

[@SunLogic1973]

Nice work! That looked like my old C128 I had back in 1985. This is getting shared!

[@matteolouisy845]

Super nice song! love your work and all the love you give to your machines

[@tschengtscheng805]

Really nice track at the end - loved that you kept the filtered bass in there!

[@TamasKalman]

that's pretty rad. great song. you are clearly an expert on the sid!

[@RMCRetro]

Awesome, you made those SID's sing

[@showsit01]

Listened till the very end and loved all of it.

[@KortKramer]

Got a Depeche sounds around 10:00. Love watching you play with this old school gear. I miss my C64!

[@kevincolyer]

Fab. That was so much more than I expected a C64 to be able to do!!! Rich sound.

[@autumnbeds]

That was freaking awesome, thank you for this.

[@calabiyou]

Lovekly. Very refreshing tune. Love the retro computers.

[@jasonoleary3527]

Great tune, amazing sound coming from 2 SID's! Wonder what 3 or more would sound like.. there goes another serviceable Saturday afternoon going down this rabbit hole!!

[@ke0kie]

Massive win, you're a proper inspiration man keep it up!

[@chriskostelec]

Holy shit that was way better than I expected, this LOOK MUM COMPUTER guy is going places.

[@toresbe]

Great video as always... have you thought to check the mouse's ball rollers? Take out the mouse ball and check the rollers for grime. That's a tech support tip I haven't given someone for at least fifteen years.

[@DavideNastri]

Super cool video, sick music. Thanks for the fun!

[@phantomslim2002]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how "Backslash Backlash" just popped into your head on the fly, that's a top quality name

[@Reptilusable]

great! I had a c64 I still have but i didn't know this amazing sequencer exists!! and I m surprised by the power of the polyphony even if sounds are very basics , and a nice synthesis too !

[@ryanincro17]

You have done it again. I love all your music and you've gone and created my favorite chip tune to date. This deserves the best of key gens. I'm still confident your music will blow up soon. You're a genius!!! Thank you for your uploads...

[@RetroPlus]

You did well to make a song that good on it, this is by far the most authentic way to make chiptune. I like it!

[@jpmini7825]

Sounds like a scene demo, amazing stuff dude.

[@kevinfishburne]

Around 7:45 the drums are synchronized to the refresh rate of the CRT as exposed by the camera recording the video. Fucking awesome, if perhaps unintentional.