Loona: Vocal Ranking

[@dreamcaught3876]

“im going to try to cut that way down” *sees video is 40 minutes*

[@wonktonk185]

I wish BBC would hire vocal coaches instead of leaving the girls to flounder and have to learn by themselves it's really limiting their potential

[@hhhhhh-vk9wk]

Yup!! I believe Hyunjin and Choerry really have great potential to be really great. Hyunjin can Belt even when she's just joking around.

[@safslut01]

They have a vocal coach. Choerry dueted with him in a single released last year.

[@B_4_BAE]

@@safslut01 a-flow??

[@safslut01]

@@B_4_BAE Yes that's him, forgot his name. Choerry said that he's their vocal coach.

[@B_4_BAE]

@@safslut01 ohhh i thought hes just a solo singer, thanks for the information bestie

[@lovechoerrymotion8471]

this is the first time i’ve seen hyunjin this high on a vocal ranking. thank you for actually listening to and analyzing all the girls vocals thoroughly. hyunjin gets the rep of being one of the weaker vocals in loona (talking about in the bottom w vivi and gowon) despite debuting with a BALLAD.

[@lovechoerrymotion8471]

@@matthewbird1067 most of the videos i’ve seen with explanation rank the lower half choerry>olivia>yeojin>hyunjin>gowon>vivi but idk maybe i just imagined it lol

[@me_hanics]

I never understood how people can think Olivia is a better singer than Hyunjin When clearly Hyunjin has well-trained technique and Olivia just rather "goes in"

[@me_hanics]

@@matthewbird1067 This is kind of my opinion too, but I can understand why Yeojin is higher here. Lately I'm really impressed with her vocals (altough I don't find her voice as diverse as Olivia's, unlike the video maker, Olivia's voice can be diverse too it's just that lower areas only really fit her so she gets mostly low lines in a song because no one else is there really)

[@thefroggy5240]

she's got my favorite voice in loona! very very very unique, you can tell it's her straight away without any doubt.

[@skylerwhitefan]

i absolutely love her husky voice, people are crazy

[@xylypotatohead3947]

Yves is a beast. This girl.... Is arguebly the best or one of the best dancers in the group. Is one of the best vocalists of the group A variety queen, a visual queen, can play instruments. Can probably rap too. The biggest girl crush Loona in general is so talented I can't

[@해직샤지한]

Indeed... Yves is a bias wrecker

[@me_hanics]

She is a great dancer in the industry. And she really trains her voice well, thoughtfully, she is becoming a great lead vocal too.. very great technique

[@hyunjinity7424]

she raps in D-1 and Girls Talk

[@lloydcendana4295]

@@hyunjinity7424 + love me right by exo oops by loona ft. yves imitating heejin, olivia, and jinsoul in oops

[@hyunjinity7424]

@@lloydcendana4295 the imitating video is legendary

[@cloudofreverie786]

Jinsoul can be a powerhouse singer if she learns to reduce the tension when she belts. Although in the studio, such as the so what bridge and ding ding dong prechorus, her belts are healthy and great.

[@jeongjinsoulsvocals923]

To be honest, as much as I *liked* listening to the So What era because... it's pop and I enjoy a good belt, that era was extremely unhealthy vocal-wise for all of the girls in general. But especially JinSoul. Imagine having to do so many formations and then doing not one, not two, but three of the song's highest notes live so many times. Not even head voice notes either, but belted ones. But I have lots of hope for her. She's already improving a lot. The foundation is there. The immense talent and power are there.

[@laurenaaa8719]

i think anxiety really affects her voice too

[@jeongjinsoulsvocals923]

@@laurenaaa8719 I think so too. Those clips of them in August 2018, singing at a radio station in green Hi High outfits? JinSoul sounded good, still, but her breath control was shockingly bad. And that was shocking because she's shown amazing breath control while standing, or while dancing hard and singing live. So why did she sound like that while sitting? Like she could hardly breathe? I think if you look at the kind of person JinSoul is, her anxiety is obvious, and it affects her singing sometimes.

[@laurenaaa8719]

@@jeongjinsoulsvocals923 i agree,,, also i think i recognise you from twt 😭

[@pinklemonaze9982]

@@jeongjinsoulsvocals923 I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!

[@cc-ky5pl]

There's something so comforting about haseul's voice and the way she sings I just feel warm and get goosebumps

[@food_goddess_queen7299]

Haseul supremacy!

[@skylerwhitefan]

she has a very mature n motherly(?) tone i cant explain dkdhdjhd

[@mookchie]

I hope she gets more lines in their next comeback !! :(

[@xrrgr]

@@skylerwhitefan exactly

[@skylerk126]

yesss her and kim lip’s voices are lovely

[@yalldveyaint4647]

yeojin has so much potential but bbc wants her to stick to the cute maknae image and shes said she wants to do other images too

[@Crocoroar]

Yeojin is going OFF on the Bsides of 12:00. She has improved immensely.

[@meguiana6925]

she’s said so many times she wants to try sexier concepts now that she’s 20 and although i don’t totally see her fitting the “sexy” image just yet (because she’s just newly an adult) i do think she’d totally be able to pull off something more hard hitting or darker if bbc didn’t push her off as nothing but young and small ):

[@m_js5709]

@@meguiana6925 it's smart from a business point of view for them not to push a more mature concept with her right away since other members in the group already have that role. She's also so young that she has time to develop new concepts and change from the typical cutesy maknae role as time goes on. Giving her time to make the most of her current concept before moving into newly developed concepts after another year or 2 is smart business and honestly good for her because it will allow for the most character development for her total image as an idol.

[@yeojin9642]

@@meguiana6925 do u know where she has said this? all ive ever seen when they ask her what concept she wants for the next comeback she always says she wants to do a brighter concept like hi high or ding ding dong

[@meguiana6925]

@@m_js5709 i totally agree that it’s smart to use her youth while they can but i’m scared they’ll never let her move on from her young image, it’s clear by her words that she wants to try newer things. for the next year or two it’d be smart to leave her same concept but eventually they need to let her grow up and i’m scared they’ll mistreat her as they did before just “because she’s young”

[@pinklemonaze9982]

Jinsoul might not be the best vocalist in Loona TECHNICALLY but I just love her tone/sound of her voice SO MUCH. It's so versatile and fits with so many genres!

[@me_hanics]

Her and Seulgi have such wide voice spectre/spectrum. Such "healthy" voices and such wide spectre, like listening to linen, velour or velvet

[@pinklemonaze9982]

@@me_hanics yesss! The best Jinsoul's voice has ever sounded (IMO) is in Loona's Ding Ding Dong during the prechorus. Her voice there sounds so powerful and beautiful. Seulgi is amazing as well, I love her vibrato (something I wish I had LMAO)

[@MrRdlv]

Yes, lipsoul are the best in loona in terms of tone. I still think chuu heejin and haseul are better but their vocals kinda generic while lipsoul has character.

[@andinho2204]

Most of the loona members went to masked singer, i think companies should take that as an example and showcase their idols more. It's really cool to see the members having a chance to shine on their own and show what they can really do

[@andinho2204]

@@seapuppy6224 There is a bit of effect in their mics in order not to catch extern sounds, only the singer'a voice, that ends up helping a bit with the pitch correction, but it's always 100% live with little to editing.

[@choerrysmaid6299]

we have yet to see jinsoul, haseul, and choerry

[@andinho2204]

@@choerrysmaid6299 Haseul would be so amazing

[@GGG-eu2lo]

@@andinho2204 tv shows are INCREDIBLY heavily edited post production. watch some fancams that aren't edited and marvel at the difference. it's a joke to think that people actually sound like they do on tv shows and stages. there is nothing inherently wrong with lip syncing and editing but to say that there is very little of it isn't right.

[@andinho2204]

@@GGG-eu2lo Depends on the show. Some performances are very edited, some aren't, take tts's sketchbook performance as an example, it has almost no editing.

[@felinekinglino5893]

The Problem of Loona is most of them are Self Trained Singers, they are very "inexperienced" in such, but its quite Impressive the fact that they arent trained well, but their Talents are coming out naturally and they keep on "Improving". As for 4th Gen, they are pretty Great and Quite Decent, but they have alot of Potential if only they Trained more

[@alexblack4048]

Theyre self trained singers?? Damn what did bbc train them in then

[@felinekinglino5893]

@@alexblack4048 i think youre aware that most of them trained for a short period of time, as we know the predebut project is very rushed, so they are not trained enough

[@alexblack4048]

@@felinekinglino5893 oh right true, I know Olivia trained for literally one day. They do have schooling tho right? Like Haseul has her classical opera training. They should've trained in some kinda school right? I don't know much about their pre debut days.

[@jeongjinsoulsvocals923]

@@alexblack4048 HaSeul did not *formally* study opera, actually. Joining LOONA prevented her from pursuing formal opera training. However, she's really good for a hobbyist. Many idols, especially ones as young as HaSeul, are talented but struggle even with notes that should very well be in their range because of improper technique. HaSeul being able to reach C6 with ease shows that whatever informal study she's had has helped her develop a very healthy head voice. C6 *should* very much be within the soprano range. She was also in choir, which isn't "study" but does often come with some training. (I was in choir too and we were taught stuff like finding and engaging the diaphragm.) JinSoul also studied in a vocal academy, same one as Solar from Mamamoo and Karina from Aespa. This is also undoubtedly (to me) why JinSoul (much like Karina) is a more technically proficient singer than some people like to claim she is. She seems to have a good grasp of how to apply singing techniques well, but sometimes (due to anxiety or circumstance) she's not able to apply them or apply them as efficiently as she could. Chuu and Yves also went to vocal academies.

[@alexblack4048]

@@jeongjinsoulsvocals923 ahh thank you for that, I just had bits and pieces of what I seen people say here and there. I've seen everyone call haseul the opera girl so I assumed she does have some formal training. Really thanks for divulging on that, I appreciate it. Do we know about lip and heejin?

[@madiemaelou]

For people that want to jump around/an overview: 12 ViVi 11 Go Won 10 Olivia Hye 9 Yeojin 8 Hyunjin 7 Cheorry 6 Jinsoul 5 Kim Lip 4 Heejin 3 Yves 2 Haseul 1 Chuu *12 and 11 were the easiest to call. *10 and 9 were close to matched. *8 and 7 were close to matched as well. *6-3 is highly disputed by lots of people. There are solid reason for these placements. *Haseul’s classical training explains why her voice isn’t as generally versatile in pop but works VERY well for specific parts. #control *Chuu is exactly what you want for pop with range and control.

[@locsoluv94]

I'm a classical singer! One thing that classical training often does is improve one's endurance. I've noticed that Chuu gets kind of exhausted and it shows in her voice. There was one live performance of So What where it was clear that she was having a hard time, and it's understandable because that song is very demanding. She's definitely gotten better, though. I haven't gotten that kind of exhaustion from Haseul when she was actively promoting, though because of her hiatus there aren't a lot of examples of situations where she would have gotten tired. From my own experience, training in a classical setting has helped my more commercial-like singing. My belting is more stable because I can support and control my breath better.

[@Crocoroar]

That's easily explainable. Chuu is a master of her voice but not a master of her heart. When she gets too excited she loses the ability to regulate her breathing. She has a big heart and gets excited when people show up to see her. I don't think anyone that went to see her would think less of her for her being excited to perform for them.

[@justcupcakeaka]

locsoluv94 she has low stamina, so since their dances are very (strong? demanding?) and she has these high lines, she runs out of breath real quick

[@natan380]

Even in most of the Butterfly performances you can see Chuu is out of breath by her line just before the bridge, yeah i think she lacks the endurance

[@tazzoholic]

that is why when I saw her on running girls and performed great on the harder part of running course, I thought what a monster vocalist she would become if she is able to endure such cardio

[@PixelDollCovers]

Finally, someone who doesn't put YeoJin dead last. YeoJin has some really great vocals, she just doesn't have the opportunity to show them off. She has one line in the song "Universe" that is seriously gorgeous. Blew me away!

[@minigowon4258]

wait ppl rank Yeojin last in vocals???

[@PixelDollCovers]

@@minigowon4258 Not everyone, but a lot of people do. It's usually between YeoJin and ViVi I find.

[@johnthegreat2073]

@@PixelDollCovers the bridge one?🤩😍🥰 I thought im the only the one that appreciated it

[@PixelDollCovers]

@@johnthegreat2073 Yes! That's the one! I still can't believe how great she sounded there.

[@soda-eg4jm]

Yeojin's line in Universe is EVERYTHING!!!

[@clairdeloona]

Yeojin: is smol Then Yeojin: Starts singing BBC: small=cute so high range for you (without even listening) Yeojin: Keeps on sings in her voice which is one of the deepest in Loona BBC: yep high voice

[@kvdhyt]

choerry is loona's ace & we love to see it acknowledged

[@fanseverypops626]

Jinsoul, Heejin, Yves too

[@ikiasoul]

@@fanseverypops626 Jinsoul is a slightly more undeveloped dancer so idk about calling her an ace but she’s definitely a vocal and rap BEAST, heejin is definitely an ace, and Yves just needs to rap more. Such a talented group tho

[@mimi_imfat]

@@ikiasoul honestly let’s admit nobody is an amazing rapper in Loona. I mean avarage kpop rappers, sure. So being a great dancer and vocalist makes it enough to be an ace imo. In kpop to be recognized as a good dancer and a good vocalist, you really need to have the skill set. But there are tons of kpop main rappers that are average if not below average. Heejin, Yves, Kim Lip (and maybeee Choerry) excel both in vocals and dance enough to be aces imo.

[@CrownPrinceEdvin]

@@ikiasoul yves is a good rapper

[@ann.z.d]

ok after watching -- i wasn't totally expecting this exact ranking, but i do agree with this ranking. i think a big factor for some of the girls is that the predebut project was very rushed and many of them had training times that were very short (only a few months). but considering that, they are all pretty good vocalists and as they gain more experience and their company lets some of them shine more they will just get better. also one thing i found very interesting was your note that yeojin kind of has two voices -- her normal, deeper one and the higher "maknae" one and it makes me wonder if any other idols also experience this

[@xylypotatohead3947]

I hope they get vocal coaches and get even better they have so much potential

[@locsoluv94]

I know that Sunny from SNSD dealt with this. She was coined the "aegyo queen" of the group and had to sing kinda baby-ish despite her actual voice being quite sultry. She even talked about how she feels like she was made to put on an artificial voice. www.koreaboo.com/news/girls-generation-sunny-snsd-position-vocal-worries-onandoff/ You can hear her actual voice in Genie. It's great and I wish we got more of that.

[@TeeTop_]

I know Jung Eunji from A Pink has spoken about not being able to use her "real voice" before. It's definitely a thing with idols.

[@withyouonemogen]

maybe Blackpink's Rosé? her singing voice predebut is much deeper than her current voice and there is a clip where its a vlive i think and she didnt notice the camera was on and she talked in a deeper voice. after noticing it was on she immediately talks in a higher voice

[@felipemoreiradasilva4719]

loved the video. Notes from an orbit #12 vivi - agree. She was sooo airy in the beginning and now shes getting a bit better, like you see in Love Battery. Let's hope she keeps improving #11 go won - even tho she didnt get that much better like vivi, i think shes ok. For the ones who don't know, she has zero confidence singing. She believes she was picked to loona due to her dancing, which is pretty good #10 olivia - they are now starting to know how to use her voice in this last comeback. Because like go won she was picked due to dancing and rapping, which she has the biggest potential in loona #9 yeojin - she got so much better from debut. And unfortunately we couldnt see much of the improvement because loona usually sing more in fansights and all. I like hee lower range tho #8 hyunjin - enormous improvment since debut. Like yeojin too bad she couldnt show a lot in 2020 but producers said she got A LOT better since 2019. From 2016-2019 she used to sing airy so her voice wouldnt crack cause she has 0 confidence. Now the belts are coming and she singed in KOMS... #7 choerry - agree 100% with you #6 jinsoul - agree 100% #5 kim lip - agree. I just wish you talked about how she is comfortable with head voice, even big notes such as that fucking Bb5 #4 heejin - another HUGE improvment. The KOMS doesnt do her justice anymore. In the end of 2020 and 2021 shes been showing how her belts got better. Actually theres one in why not that it was soooooo clear i was shook. Shes the one to watch out. #3 yves - agree. Her lower voice is almost as good as heejin, her belting are good as jinsoul and head is good as kim lip. There are some hidden clips where she disputes head voice with chuu and omgggg #2 haseul - agree. Shes my ultt she has my favorite voice in kpop. To me, bbc was soooo lucky to have her there #1 chuu - agree. And she keeps getting better specially in her stamina. I think she is one of the best in the 4th gen

[@gabep8340]

yesss recognizing yves's talent!! most people rank her around #5.

[@talusmagana2396]

Really I usually see her 3rd with Lippie at 5th

[@swift-rk1fx]

@@talusmagana2396 that's a correct ranking

[@reginagrxce]

Weeekly vocal ranking please~ they just debuted last year but they are known for their great vocals. There are quite a lot of videos of them singing live. But unfortunately no one has done a vocal ranking / analysis of them yet

[@rruuyl]

yes please! weeekly is definitely one of the strongest vocal groups of this new generation. i personally think the ranking is monday soeun jiyoon/jihan soojin jaehee zoa

[@pinklemonaze9982]

YES! Weeekly seem to have a lot of vocalists with potential! My favorites are Monday, Soeun, Jiyoon, and Jihan!

[@gai_phrog9018]

yes. our orbit president's group deserves a video too!

[@karlcleet3384]

If anyone is wondering I made his bed so it wasn't a mess for this video, as it annoys me always seeing his bed not made up

[@sambradley8297]

I think absolutely not a single soul was wondering 🤣

[@karlcleet3384]

@@sambradley8297 there's always one 😂

[@izonexbae]

@@karlcleet3384 im that one😁

[@karlcleet3384]

@Sam Bradley see i found the one 😂

[@jeongjinsoulsvocals923]

As a JinSoul vocal fan who studies all of her strengths and weaknesses, I am really glad to hear your assessment. I personally rank her higher than Kim Lip, Yves, and HeeJin, but though you ranked her sixth of the unofficial vocal line, you were very fair. You weren't dogmatic about it and acknowledged that 1) singers do tend to improve over time and 2) some of the criteria are ultimately rather subjective; as well as recognizing her strengths and immense potential too (and that the vocal line from 3rd to 6th aren't that far apart in terms of skill). A lot of people usually act as if singing ability is a fixed thing. There are lots of incredibly talented people who need more polish and skill. Singing is a mixture of talent and skill. Skill is extrinsic; it can be and often is improved. I'm always really happy to see you acknowledge whenever idols have lots of potential and inborn talent. Even when I don't have particularly strong opinions about a group's vocals (like with ITZY), it's so tiring to see people act as if singing ability is static, doesn't change. That's simply untrue.

[@alishaoop2676]

she don’t support what r u studying

[@Elsi-Music]

Choerry has sooo much potential. She has really good pitch and a controlled vibrato which are usually signs that a singer who is just under trained.

[@camcolin8117]

I completely agree with choerry! Her tone is so soft, and she often goes into falsetto... but there are moments were we have heard her potential to belt. I think BBC is slowly trusting her more and more with vocal lines.

[@lindsay5601]

I was so excited for this you have no idea lol. It's always so interesting to see loona vocal rankings because I don't think I've ever seen two that are the same. Loona reminds me of Gidle in the sense that what makes them a great group vocally is their vocal tones and the variety they have. There's no group where I adore their vocal tones as much as I do with Loona. I know some people get annoyed that they don't have any positions, but I think it fits them very well, one of the main reasons being that trying to fit them in positions would be a nightmare. I really appreciate the amount of research you did into each girl, it really shows that you did your best to get a complete look at each of their voices. Great video!

[@leyner3298]

Main dancer ranked #3 in vocal lines. Yves is the whole package!

[@dercfts1]

she's not a main dancer officially, ok? she's just a part of dance line

[@swift-rk1fx]

@@loonaevis1417 first* yves is the best dancer in loona, idk why do ppl always rank her second lol

[@swift-rk1fx]

@@loonaevis1417 good, it's only your opinion anyway lol

[@swift-rk1fx]

istg yall dont see and realize yves's immaculate technique. she sits there with chaeyeon, mia, etc. in the 4th gen. i love heejin, but she doesn't come close to yves's control. look at yves's drip drop (taemin) cover, and you'll know who's the best dancer in loona. periodt

[@leyner3298]

It’s always been like that if you’re new orbit great. But everyone since Yves solo debut have seen Yves as main dancer even if Loona is full of main dancers. That’s it.

[@freya5703]

I’ve seen a trend in k-pop vocalists. Usually companies will train half or 1/4 of the vocalists properly. Usually the ones with more “natural talent”. The others are given the light, airy, squeaky k-pop voice which is easy to produce but if not done well sounds well... They sort of put all their eggs in one basket instead of bringing up all the members to a good level. Then fans get angry when one member sings half the song and the others do ad-libs when the company invested in that member to be “the singer” in the first place. It’s annoying but it means they only have to pay for a few vocal coaches ~

[@izonexbae]

Again amazing video, i’d say Yves & Heejin are veryy interchangeable although i prefer Yves i’d say they are very interchangeable. Yves is a bit more consistent overall but Heejin has showcased some better moments when she’s at her best. Jinsoul has such a pretty voice btw

[@silly_hue-wheat]

Yves? #3? I stanned the right woman

[@evildevilgirl02]

This was really interesting. I can't remember the last time Yeojin ranked so high. I really enjoyed what you had to say about Choerry (pronounced like the food) as well. She's already grown so much since her solo debut. I'm really excited to see how good she'll be later on. The downside of this video was I realized the odds of you ever ranking WJSN/Cosmic Girls (13 member girl group)....

[@hhhhhh-vk9wk]

Haha they're a 10 membered group now let's be real here

[@evildevilgirl02]

@@hhhhhh-vk9wk Yeah, so odds are, Sam will still not want to rank a girl group that big :/

[@svendvendb]

honestly wjsn are one of the most interesting vocal groups out there imo i hope he can check them out

[@henzolily]

@@hhhhhh-vk9wk No, they will comeback with the China line soon

[@hhhhhh-vk9wk]

@@henzolily where?? didn't the china line literally removed wjsn from their weibo bio 💀💀💀 mei qi makes more in her endorsements in a year than wjsn. they're never coming back.

[@aedlzvn]

Yves is so underrated as a vocalist. She always get praise for dancing that people forget how good her vocals are.

[@choerrysmaid6299]

odd thing is, rank 5,6,7 are odd eye circle girls. they are just so talented

[@d.w.1805]

heejin and yves are such ACES

[@genevievegagne5941]

I really do agree with your ranking. I think something that is tricky with LOONA is unlike some kpop groups where the main vocal is the only member capable of singing the "hard parts", the majority of them have the vocal ability to sing most parts of their songs. So instead of their lines being assigned based on their vocal ability or lack thereof, their lines are mostly assigned by popularity, and people sometimes assume that the most popular members must have the most vocal ability rather than realizing their voices are just the most showcased.

[@hyewonderfull]

OMG YESSSS AHHHH!!! hopefully you can do IZ*ONE soon

[@AshishKumar-zi1ir]

patiently waiting for IZ*ONE's vocal ranking.......

[@emm3814]

same

[@LukeBridger]

As much as it hurts as I'm a vivi and go won bias, this is very accurate. Though I'd wish BBC would let them rap more as they use much more power and fullness when rapping rather than singing. I'm also glad that Hyunjin is so high up in vocal ranking as she doesn't get appreciated as much. Thank you for this video!

[@trash8852]

I have the exact same biases!

[@LukeBridger]

@@trash8852 yaaas

[@soobinsbread2930]

I just wish they get more training.. gowon and vivi aren’t confident at all, if bbc started training them more we could see more improvement.

[@GotInterest]

@@soobinsbread2930 Yeah tbh, I know they have a vocal coach, but I feel like Vivi and Gowon just need more practice and more one-on-one training. They have nice tone. The flaws in their signing are really just lack of development and training. I feel like if BBC gave them extra attention in this area they could develop beautifully as singers and get more power into their voices.

[@user-luciddream]

Ur kind of stupid... how is the solution to them being weaker singers forcing them to rap when 1. Gowon purposely avoids ever doing her one and only rap when live and 2. Vivi has never rapped why suddenly force her to do so. Loona as a group just arent rappers and very obviously prefer singing way more.

[@cheeyeung3675]

I'm always so impressed when Main/Lead Dancers are part of the Vocal Line. Heejin and Yves JJANG!

[@mikoylerio9934]

Agree with you. Thank you for appreciating these two ..

[@blurrie9688]

Man, how much time have flown, now Yves is being regarded as the best vocalist in Loona

[@OryxViper_]

Now that you dared rank a 12-members group, I really hope you can make IZ*ONE! People rank their 5 Lead Vocalist in many different ways and it would be interesting to hear your opinion! Also, people also debate the top of the non-vocal-line (7th to 10th) a lot!

[@Brainstorm6954]

Yes I would like to know his ranking too hope that he does it in the future when he is ready of course

[@vangoghsnight4268]

@@Kayla-yw2iy agreed. Yena and Eunbi can be interchanged but Chaewon is really not the 2nd Main Vocal, no offense but technically the other 2 are just better. Chaewon has my 2nd fave vocal in the group anyway

[@slaypa]

this what i would rank the vocal line 1. Yuri 2.Yena/Eunbi (yena is by 1% better than eunbi but still in the same level) 3.Chaewon 4. Chaeyeon 5. Yujin

[@kimthegenuine6004]

Thank you for the review. As an orbit I really enjoyed your review. I just wanna speak about some points about you mentioned: - Choerry (you're correct its pronounced as Cherry) is for me one of the most improved member in the group in terms of vocals and yes she has so much potential and consistency that the other members voted her as their "best vocalist". - I agree with Chuu being in the No.1 ( she isnt called Chuuriah Carey for no reason) - Ranking #3-#6 is really really hard because it comes down to preference of what do you think has better "technique" overall. I personally rank Kim Lip higher than Heejin but that's just me. -I feel like Yeojin's potential is being hindered because shes the "maknae" or the youngest in the group. I think her voice can become really good if they give her some lines within her range. -I am very excited about Haseul if shes gonna appear in their next comeback on how she improved overall because we know that her head voice is really good but I wanna see more belting from her like with Chuu. Overall, its a very good review and I almost agree with all your points so thank you again

[@kimthegenuine6004]

@@shuu-wasseo no its still pronounce as "cherry" even though its spelling is different

[@slaypa]

the rank 1 - 4 has shown some of support breath while the rest didn't, so kim lip can't be better from heejin yet

[@lkisnothere]

@@kimthegenuine6004 it is pronounced 'chwe-ry' (최리 - the 외 vowel makes a 'weh' kind of sound) not cherry (체리 - which has a 'eh' sound). similar but not the same since 최리 (choerry) is a shortened version of her name 최예림 (choi yerim)

[@GotInterest]

I like this ranking better than some others because you are basing your ranking on what works best in COMMERCIAL singing, instead of just going off of raw classical technique. Because those two have different priorities. Commercial singing prioritizes style over technique, and I like how you acknowledge that with the lower ranked singers. Loona is still a relatively young group, I can't wait to see how they will grow and develop over time.

[@rebeccadibdin4218]

Technique is still pretty important in non-classical contemporary singing as it allows for longevity, and from what I noticed, Sam didn't talk that much about style but instead the technique needed for healthy contemporary singing, such as forward placement, resonance, vocal chord closure.

[@marion1446]

Great Ranking!! As a classically trained singer I can confirm that changing to a pop (contemporary) sound is really hard, you kind of need to "unlearn" a vocal placement strategy that has been ingrained into you until it becomes default mode in order to access a sound you probably had naturally before the classical training started. The beneficial aspects of a classical training, such as range (access to high notes), agility and control are imo worth the work you've put into it so I really look forward to seeing Haseul's development in the coming years.

[@pangetkogago5991]

YES THANKYOU FOR GIVING JUSTICE ON YVES AND HYUNJIN’S VOCALS

[@midzyoncecarat202]

Even the “weakest” vocal in LOONA has a GORGEOUS voice and singing talent and that’s on Loona

[@NatWarrior1]

Jinsoul has always been in the middle of my list in terms of vocals, and I could never really explain why. I think this video puts it into words really well and i very much agree with you on this. Regardless, she is still very good at what she does and she's always improving

[@Crocoroar]

This is the most sensible ranking Ive seen of Loona from any youtube video. I understand where you are coming from on every placement. I think we haven't seen the best of Choerry and Yeojin yet and think they could jump several spots depending on how they develop. One side note, Chuu and Jinsoul each have an OST for a Kdrama and they are amazing I recommend you look them up and give them a listen.

[@sanspurple5621]

In my opinion Yeojin has the best vocal tone in loona, i love her voice so much

[@meguiana6925]

it’s super unique she’d shine so much if bbc let her

[@sanspurple5621]

@@meguiana6925 ikr!!

[@kpoppieinneverland7663]

It's so cute and husky uwu

[@lidette711]

Finally! Someone agrees with me! Haseul is Queen of Vocal Control! I miss her so much. I can't wait for their next comeback.

[@giaevis6110]

You forgot to judge Vivi’s legendary line in So What. ‘HEY!’

[@justdb4]

You mean that one ad-lib?

[@dercfts1]

MWO EOTTAE🥵

[@slaypa]

PLSSSSSS

[@theepoopydoodoo]

Take that, SO WHAT!

[@roses_are_rosie8412]

i think loona are not trained well but they do have very interesting voices, also waiting for victon video 😀

[@stormraven198]

Yeah, i think the best thing about Loona's vocals that sets them apart from other 4th gen groups is how diverse their vocal tones are and how well they mesh together despite having such different vocals which can lead to very interesting and surprisingly good harmonies and such

[@kpoppieinneverland7663]

@@stormraven198 I agree! Loona has a lot of variety. Cute voices? Deep voices? Powerful voices? They have that covered. I notice this with Gidle in the 4th gen too.

[@aeongtv2358]

Respect for putting the “Into The Unknown” clip for Hyunjin! 😤👊💛

[@emilyalvarado2077]

Holy shit its here.

[@yeojin9642]

im glad you appreaciate yeojin's voice! i think she has really improved in the years and when she sings with her real voice (love battery cover, universe bridge, voice chorus) she really shines and shows her potential, i hope since she now is an adult bbc lets her sing more mature lines

[@yeojin9642]

also yay yves praise!!! shes my favorite loona singer even tho i know technically she isnt the best but her tone and belts are just gorgeous, with the years i could really see her becoming main vocalist. she kinds of reminds me of early years taeyeon from snsd

[@Tay-wj9et]

It's not fair that Chuu is both the cutest human alive AND an amazing singer lol 😂 how am I supposed to survive her??

[@the5lads]

choerrys improvement is so amazing, so excited to watch more of her growth in the future

[@cloudofreverie786]

Haseul's headvoice is one of the best in kpop. Even up there with Wendy from Red Velvet.

[@dramaanalyst1745]

But BBC gives her one word to sing

[@cloudofreverie786]

@@dramaanalyst1745 BBC gives lines relative to popularity.

[@swift-rk1fx]

@@cloudofreverie786 they don't know how to utilize their best vocalists. esp. haseul; i hope she can perform on king of masked singer someday

[@cloudofreverie786]

@@swift-rk1fx to be fair, loona's songs are very belty, and Haseul's belts are very heady, if she can learn to mix better, for sure most songs would fit her. Not to say that she's not one of the best vocalists in loona but pop singing entails a lot of high chesty belts, that's where some members have a edge on her in.

[@keroppipop3805]

depending on criteria, haseul and chuu are interchangeable for me. haseul is classically trained in opera, stylistically she doesn’t adapt the best to pop (I loved her in butterfly though), but damn that girls got a great head voice, it’s consistently connected and supported up to F5/F#5. in terms of belting, between haseul and chuu, i would say haseul is more relaxed due to her light and heady configuration while chuu does well with a more balanced-chesty mix but suffer from fatigue earlier. however chuu has more impact on climax notes, like haseul covering hi high chuu’s part, she hits it with extreme ease but it’s pretty anticlimactic when you expect a full on belt. haseul is a healthier vocalist so in terms of technique id rank haseul first but i prefer chuu as main vocal more than haseul as she’s more of a popstar to me

[@a.t.6610]

This is sort of accurate, but also...not? The thing is... Chuu can actually have a very relaxed singing, with a very heady and light configuration, just like Haseul. This is a dynamic that Chuu can 100% reproduce (and has, in the past). So both Haseul and Chuu can access that dynamic. But the thing is Haseul clearly can't access a more balanced mix - while Chuu can. This is especially true when you consider the fact that Chuu doesn't actually belt all that much outside of LOONA songs. It's really not the kind of vocalist that she aspires to be (see her V-Lives covers too). She's being made to sing like this because she's simply the most fitted member of LOONA for that role (of a powerhouse vocalist), but otherwise her and Haseul have very similar habits (which is to sing in headvoice or mix very lightly). Chuu also have a connected headvoice, and there's somehow of a support up to D5. Haseul does support higher than her there. So she gets the upper hand there. But Chuu definitely has a more open and connected voice within the F4-B4 range. I feel like they're quite similar, honestly. One is a little stronger higher up (very high headvoice) and the other one a little stronger below (4th octave mixed register).

[@gowonsupremacist]

yes im a gowon bias yes im gonna watch this and yes im gonna suffer through it bc my girl is probably gonna be on the bottom end

[@jirapornnamprasit8358]

The Ranking: 1. Chuu 2. Haseul 3. Yves 4. Heejin 5. Kim Lip 6. Jinsoul 7. Choerry 8. Hyunjin 9. Yeojin 10. Olivia Hye 11. Gowon 12. Vivi

[@vivianlight-]

I just saw this and thank you for actually analyzing (as always) the voices, sometimes I feel like the rankings are a bit rushed and/or fixed in prejudice (in particular Yeojin and Hyinjin are severely underestimated imho I absolutely get different opinions but it's clear that sometimes their ranking is already decided).

[@ailem2707]

As someone who’s just a casual fan, this was really interesting to watch

[@deividgualberto7704]

In the 'All I Want For XMas' cover, they sound like robots! And my favorite voices are: Yves, Kim Lip, Heejin, Vivi & Chuu

[@yukiyuki3908]

Okay please, someone explain why bbc doesn’t let haseul sing she’s really good

[@sambradley8297]

I would say, she doesn't have a hugely commercial sound that really suits a faster paced song. That would be my guess.

[@crystyIe]

chuu is just flawless like how do i do that

[@TheRavenvsv]

Chuu is just amazing! She definitely is the number one.

[@minadomenechflores7185]

Can we just praise Yves for a moment? Gurl, the emotion put in her voice truly amazes me, even being the main dancer, her range is so wide and technique-wise she can even surpass Chuu (maybe I'm exaggerating, I think Chuu deserves her place).

[@alexa8257]

omg I'm so happy to see yves 3rd! she has such a nice vocals!

[@alvidion]

A very good attempt I have to say! This video really helped me dive into their abilities without much fuss. I've been interested in Loona recently so it's interesting to know the members and their vocal abilities which is the aspect I always look first when getting to know new groups

[@stormraven198]

I think the best thing about Loona's vocals that sets them apart from other 4th gen groups is how diverse their vocal tones are and how well they mesh together despite having such different vocals which can lead to very interesting and surprisingly good harmonies and such But that's just what i think

[@Orbitinbloom19018]

Yeojin is such a talented vocalist i never understand why bbc didnt use it more, i love her slight rasp

[@loonascomebackguardian7968]

very interesting video! i actually correctly guessed your ranking up until the top 4 😳 but yes i completely see that with choerry!! when she first debuted she seemed a bit unconfident in her live vocals and when i noticed that i so badly wanted to see her improve. she really has in the past 2 years though i agree that she has more room for improvement and i can’t wait to see that with her and the rest of loona 😌 i’m confident they’ll be a force once we get a vocal centric title track and can really show what they’ve got

[@mariakaranikolova3485]

Finally 🌠 introducing ✨ Loona 💫

[@songlark]

This is exactly the kind of thoughtful analysis I've always wanted from a vocal ranking video! Thanks for putting this together!

[@Elsi-Music]

Classical singing is more heavily focused on mixed voice and heavier throat singing. It uses vibrato as well.

[@Nicolesid1]

Just a note regarding newer girl kpop groups, the companies often insisted the girls sing in higher voices to song "younger" Edit: *Cough Heejin cough*

[@silly_hue-wheat]

Yeojin has an interesting voice but BBC locking her in a maknae image wtf

[@iikubos]

kim lip and jinsoul have my favourite voice in loona but all the girls have beautiful voices. thank you for this analysis

[@lalalilala1579]

Hi, thanks so much for doing this! I would love to see a video on Cherry Bullet (who just came back with Love So Sweet), Apink, or April! Cherry Bullet is a new group that's super talented vocally and I'd be really interested to see your take on their two main vocalists. Apink has one of the best vocalists in kpop imo (eunji) and really strong vocalists overall. April is super underrated and has some strong vocals as well!

[@TheCreeperCreeping]

a very interesting watch, out of the loona vocal rankings i've seen i definitely agree most with this. regarding chuu though, although i agree she has the most well-controlled and extensive mix i don't really hear much openness or resonance from her in that area. in terms of sound i actually find her mix kind of similar to kimlip's - quite nasal and with a tendency to get increasingly tight and tense when she adds more volume or goes higher. luckily (unlike kimlip whelp) she can push through and give a pretty consistent belt, but it still sounds very tight and tense to me nonetheless.

[@foldedpapermoon5640]

I literally cried the first time I listened to Haseul's voice lmao. It's really beautiful and unique, but I'm not a professional so I dont know how to describe it hehe. This video is really interesting and gives a good and complete explanation on the placements. ALSO Haseul needs more lines 😭 but I'm sure that when she comebacks we will see a lot of improvement from her!!!

[@zchanique9338]

I love Haseul, Jinsoul, Yves, Kim Lip and Hyunjin's vocal colors. So pretty.

[@jasminewadsworth1983]

I’ve seen this term a lot, what is a ‘vocal colour’?

[@zchanique9338]

@@jasminewadsworth1983 it's what makes them sound unique to other singers, or timbre

[@jasminewadsworth1983]

@@zchanique9338 So does that mean that Heejin and Yeojin has similar vocal colours, and ViVi and Go Won too?

[@zchanique9338]

@@jasminewadsworth1983 in my opinion, kind of. their voices kind of sound the same to me, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. no one in loona sound the same tbh. but if those four were to sing one after the other, i would be so confused lol

[@leseolle]

@@zchanique9338 Tbh when all of Loona sings in a deeper range it’s easier for me to distinguish them. Lately their songs are really high-pitched, I would love a lower-pitched song that showcases their tones more.

[@cc-ky5pl]

I personally love loona members' voices because I think they're pleasant to listen to

[@Lukas-jq4vw]

I'm a vivi bias and I understand why she's at 12, it is true. I respect it

[@mikoylerio9934]

Yo, you can all hate Heejin if y'all want, but Heejin is very talented having that deep voice bro it's just amazing how she can do falsetto as well. She knows how to play well with her voice. Awesome! Heejin jjang!! ❤️🐰

[@glenkoko3649]

Maybe you could take a look at the girlgroup "GWSN", they are not very famous and at first glance their vocals might seem insignificant but when you take a look at their main vocal Seoryoung, she's just wow.... I'm not very knowable about singing but I can tell she is something extra special and it would be interesting seeing an expert analyze her vocals!

[@Ganaha_Celosia_Priskos]

I agree with Vivi's placement. Even though she's my bias, I do feel that her voice definitely has room to improve. It's just unfortunate she gets so few lines. I feel if she got more lines, it could give her much more experience and practice with singing. Same goes for Gowon. Since she has very few lines, she doesn't really get much experience or practice. She and Vivi both tend to get more rap lines and they're both pretty decent rappers but I think that if Gowon was given more lines, it would definitely help her become a better singer so if she ever does get some singing lines she can show off her improvement. For Olivia, she seems more comfortable rapping than singing and I feel like she's best when she's singing in a range she's comfortable range. She's a pretty decent vocalist though! Yeojin is a good vocalist. But like Vivi and Gowon, she's not really given as many lines as other members so I feel like if she was given more training, she could definitely show off more of what she can do. Hyunjin I feel like is being held back with her vocal abilities. She can belt super well even if she's not even singing seriously but I feel like she's a bit shy. I feel she isn't really given the chance to show off what she can really do and I think that with more training she could definitely mix her singing voice with her joking "Into the Unknown" belting voice haha! Choerry is a bit odd. She is either given lots of lines or not as many. She does have a nice voice and I feel like it tends to fit certain concepts more than others like slower songs. Her voice shines when she's singing the right type of song for her voice. She could definitely have more potential! Jinsoul is definitely more of a power vocal but I do agree with what you're saying. I do hear a slight tightness in her vocals when she hits higher notes. With a bit of training she could belt much more comfortably and it wouldn't hurt her vocal chords as much. She still has room to grow and she would be able to show off much more! Kim Lip is a good vocalist for sure but I also did notice that her voice had some nasality to it and I do feel like it kind of "restricts" her in a way when trying to sing higher but I agree with what you said for her! Heejin's voice sounds so recognizable to me. I personally like her rapping voice more but I still think she's a good vocalist and I really do like her lower range. I hope she gets more chances to show it off more in the future. Yves really fits ballad songs. I think her voice is good in a wide variety of songs but I do think that if she's given the right genre, her voice shines so much. I agree with your opinions on her too! Haseul!!!! I wish she was given much more lines. She's such a great vocalist and it makes me so sad she's never given the chance to show off her abilities. I love listening to her singing opera songs and I think it's an overlooked skill to be able to sing opera. Ballads are definitely a forte for her voice. She has a really nice emotional voice that I really wish was taken more advantage of. She's a really good vocalist and BBC needs to realize that and give her more lines for songs that suit her voice. Chuu is no doubt a really good vocalist. She's got a voice that fits so many concepts to me. She's got that cute poppy voice but it's also strong enough to fit darker concept songs and she can also make her voice fit ballads too. Her voice is so versatile it's crazy!

[@shinesara226]

Damn YVES!

[@ye7493]

DEAR BBC: Let Yeojin sing in a mature voice. I would love to see here with a more vocal heavy voice

[@WiCkEdPLANET1]

tysm for ranking loona! I got so excited when I saw this on my feed haha I really wanted to hear a more detailed analysis of the girls' voices. in my opinion loona's songs dont fully utilise the girls' vocals the way they could (especially the members with less lines) which I really hope changes soon since they have a lot of potential and we've seen them do great things in covers/just casually singing in video clips (for example hyunjin's INTO THE UNKNOWNNNNN lmao). I'm really hoping for a more vocal focused album from them 🙏

[@hhhhhh-vk9wk]

I haven't watched it but I agree so much. Absolute banger you never miss.

[@1ia802]

u perfectly explained how i feel about choerry!! she has sm potential I'm telling you, just let her practice with a coach for a little and shes INCREDIBLE

[@Lucie-ho1qv]

This is so underrated for the amount of effort put into this video!! Thank you so much!

[@22noash]

before watching - i really REALLY wonder what he will say about haseul. thank you for doing loona!

[@gemmafeltovich6130]

THANK YOU for mentioning that power ≠ technique

[@floatyredballoon]

Finally! In the future I would absolutely love a Vocal Ranking video on Everglow and WJSN. WJSN are a top 5 girl group for vocals IMO. And I’d just be interested in a Everglow ranking, particularly your thoughts about Mia’s voice.

[@alicekerireininger4930]

You are brave sir, orbits be scary. I enjoyed this a lot though and now I have more faith in my ability to tell them apart haha. Would you consider doing ranks of disbanded groups? Specifically F(x)

[@rosalynelippington]

I don't think Orbits are that scary. I am an orbit but I wouldn't purposely kill an ant.

[@lkr0805]

Curiously, both of the most textured voices of the group, ViVi and Go Won, are the most self-taught, and therefore the least experienced. Still impressive ngl, because BBC said that the predebut voices of the girls have never been strongly modified.

[@milkenzi1]

i don't know what it is about kim lip's voice, but i could listen to that girl forever

[@Toypianist95]

MY WOMAN CHOERRY is too talented 😭 Please, we got to boost her confidence 🥺❤

[@rafaelaxavier886]

ok, finally its loona! i didnt see the video but i have to say kim lip have one beautful unique vocal color, you can say its her because of her voice

[@ann.z.d]

yayy finally ! thank you for your hard work !