Sampler trick: Steve Reich/William Basinski style phase shifting loops (Digitakt/Model Samples)

[@allrain]

Man this is mega. You're like a huge combination of an inspiring artist, a skilled musician, and a proficient teacher. Thank you!!

[@Ian-gw2vx]

With a HUGE bank account!

[@kenfusion]

Perfectly said . I will second this . But only after lowering it an Octave, and changing the stop and start point . Excellent video .

[@RichardOlpin]

Brilliant Ziv. As is usually the case with your videos, this opened my eyes to something I'd never have thought of on the Digitakt. If I end up pulling an all-nighter off down an ambient rabbit hole tonight it's all your fault!

[@loopop]

Thanks! I take fully responsibility for the ensuing pleasure in doing so ;)

[@soundlab7755]

The rhythmic phasing part is amazing! It sounds so good and the bass complements it so nicely. I'm definitely going to play around with this technique.

[@cloudrun654]

Yeah, really great sounds in this video.

[@johncaccioppo1142]

This is funny, I've been recommended this video for almost a year and only got around to watching it because you mentioned it in the last video. Outstanding work, teaching these birds to fly, Ziv.

[@red13emerald]

Very cool idea! This also works on the Volca Sample and the OP-Z. On the volca, you have to play a sample, hold it and only then set the decay to 127 to get infinite decay. And Loop has to be on, of course. On the OP-Z, holding the track button and turning the blue dial all the way up will make sure a note is held once played, and turning the green dial to 3 will enable looping on sample tracks.

[@red13emerald]

ElLocoArtaud no, you use the same sample in two slots, but in each slot you set slightly different speed or length

[@marcelinesnodgrass1095]

does this work on the op-1 or just the opz

[@red13emerald]

Devin Snodgrass yes, the OP1 can kinda do this as well. In the drum sampler, set two notes to have the same parameters (in point, pitch etc.) except for the out point and voila. I don’t know how one could drone properly, I don’t have an op1.

[@Lobbogurke]

Nice thanks I will try that! It's always nice to get more out of the voclas

[@iqi616]

@@red13emerald thanks for this tip

[@RajaSandhu]

I had one day left on my Digitakt 30 day trial from the music shop, so I packed everything back up nicely, was on my way to go return it when I saw this video open on a browser tab and hit play with the box in hand. Happy to say I am doing my second unboxing of the Digitakt and will keep it, thanks to you.

[@juriszemitis3435]

On digitakt you can use sequencer while looping. If you use trig condition 1st - for loop track, use other as regular if you want to. And thanks for all your work!!!

[@solongyouth]

Thanks for this tip.

[@alpenjon]

Great idea!

[@cloudrun654]

The two pieces of music you played for us here were beautiful. They stand alone as music I would enjoy listening to. There are of a very high quality and craft. If you made a youtube page of just your music, I would happily subscribe to that, too.

[@loopop]

Thanks very much! First album coming soon...

[@alexrsmith31]

Drift by Bicep is very similar to the first jam

[@DK-qe6uo]

It’s insane to me how much you know intimately about every device you share on this channel. I’ve learned so much thank you!

[@jonaseggen2230]

I heard several, (8?) pianos play a piece by Steve Reich once, where they did this out of phase thing. Really impressive that they manage to play the "wrong" speed right for, I don't know, ages. Wizardry basically. What was extra fun though was the noise from the traffic outside that every now and then came through adding a tiny bit of John Cage, and then in the huge windows we could se warped and mirrored reflections of the citylife that looked like the kind of arty filming that you can find in documentaries about minimalists and such from that time.

[@northerncatto]

That first piano loop reminds me of the first track on Music for Airports. Good, simple technique. Thanks!

[@benmironmd]

NorthernCat definitely hear that

[@LutraSound]

Steve Reich - Piano Phase

[@LouisSerieusement]

yeah same here, I took so much nap over music for airport XD love Eno

[@cdotburg]

I was thinking aisatsana by aphex twin

[@hereisacomment4u]

Exactly!

[@robjames5009]

The last loop is soo goooodddd! Want that as a full track :)

[@sborges433]

Loved to have watched this with the 4ms Sampler and/or Morpho.

[@milztempelrowski9281]

"just do it"

[@strangersun7721]

Well that's going right in the "favorites" folder. Lovely stuff. Thanks for sharing your process.

[@smoketoad]

Production KZbin needs more content like this. Amazing work and under 10 minutes.

[@billsoraparu9673]

Well I’m convinced that the Digitakt will be my next purchase. Very informative video Loopop!! Nicely done!!

[@Lcrymlgy]

This has been incredibly inspiring, I think it might just be the thing that helps me get back in to it

[@greygoo5319]

It's weird I'm listening to music for airports while taking a bath, and your piano loop fits really well with it 😊🛀✈️🎹

[@RotlichtFilet]

Man, this is great!!! Have to try this!

[@vvcv__00]

A different approach can also be done. For example, just change one (or more) measures/bars to two instruments playing the same phrase. Then use the different measures/bars to change a note/rest, usually at the end of the phrase, to achieve nearly the same effect however, with much more control -since everything is still counted at the same timing. Composers, especially within the minimalist movement, used this type phrasing. Serialism writers did nearly the same thing, though with pitch/notes. Then modernism took this to achieve atonal, and opposing key structure, tension. Basically similar to adding/subtracting a beat in your sequence -if more than one line is used.

[@dwdougherty]

Great tips here, Loopop! Thank you.

[@German_LP]

Great voice, great channel, great info! Thanks from Argentina!

[@justingoers]

Beautiful stuff man.

[@cold_fashioned]

I'm putting together a Music for Airports tribute EP of sorts based on the techniques you demonstrate here using my Octatrack. It's been a lot of fun, and I've learned a lot about the OT along the way.

[@NicholasBryantBonzaiSequoias]

Another way to use this technique is to have layers of samples (obviously of differing length) with only one or two notes/sounds each. This makes it easier to treat each part without affecting the on-going whole. I've used this with hardware and software samplers.

[@mymockumentary9716]

I've been stalking your channel for a while, great work and nice voice.... this video is genius, shame I'm not likely to get a digitak (I've finally subscribed :) hehe)

[@tylerevans1700]

That was incredible man..

[@GuitarManiac1975]

Once again very cool. You seem to be full of incredible musical ideas. Thanks for this new ‘lesson’!

[@loopop]

My pleasure - thanks!

[@moose1689]

Damn. Had almost convinced myself not needing the dikitakt.

[@anakamhi7097]

The GAS is real 😂

[@digitaldiezel5870]

This is one of the coolest things I seen done with the digitakt. I'm going to try this on my device....and then I'll come back here and brag about it... lol 😊

[@loopop]

Yes!

[@digitaldiezel5870]

@@loopop I tried it with the FORCE, it was beautiful. Thanks for the tips!!! 👍

[@xx-fp1ns]

Loopop for president!

[@xx-fp1ns]

Sponsored u on Patreon mate. Solid reviews every time, your style is on point every time and Uber concise. Your best asset remains your voice though, by far the best on the net. Funny I noticed Bobeats doing the same Patreon thing, alongside Look Mum no computer and others it seems like the way forward to monetize these days.

[@AndrewJohnClive]

Loopop, you make lovely sounds.. Thank you!

[@donaldpriola1807]

What an inspiring video! Thanks for sharing a technique I hadn't thought of trying with the Digitakt!

[@simonlittlebass]

I could listen to that ambient piano loop all day 😌

[@ChanseMacabre]

Really great idea! I've learned a lot of cool tricks that can be applied to Elektron boxes from your videos, so thanks for making them. :)

[@fisk0]

Korg's Electribe 2 can do this as well, though with its limited sample memory you'd probably want to record the sample at double or quadruple speed (which would equal 22 and 11 khz instead of the standard 44) and then pitch down on the ES2's sample editor ... which in turn would mean the sound fidelity is closer to actual tape loops as well. You can compensate for some of that quality reduction with effects and EQ.

[@nicholaskothari8150]

playing with two similar melodies with "last step" function being 3 or 4 could probably create some fun stuff.

[@purelucknoskill5158]

Thanks man. Great tutorial.

[@PiperBlush]

You are a god

[@WyattCmar]

I really loved these ideas. Thanks!

[@oktawiuszoctagon]

Great trick! It works on old Korg Electribe ESX too. Thank You for the inspiration

[@loopop]

Great - thanks for sharing

[@MrCowfood]

Yes. I suggest as a follow up perhaps looper pedal exploration. Sound on sound n such.

[@cesarperez-cardenas97]

I love my Digitakt. I was so frustrated with it at first, but got the hang of it little by little; now I LOVE it. Thanks for the video and ideas!

[@paniproduce]

This is gold.

[@rootvision1290]

Again and again...Nice work man ;-)

[@V3nom7]

The GR-1 from Tasty Chips allows this too (limited to 4 tracks/timbre), maybe even in an easier and more direct way. I already made some "arabic soundscape" with one guitare sample of my own, and some strange animal screams made from samples of my creaky stool xD

[@jackjackdaw5065]

Bird songs! I was just thinking up a new video today and thought about using birdsong samples in it. It must be the spring air.

[@muitosabao]

if you add enough loops of varying lengths, it could be that it takes hours or days until they loop together again

[@monomakes]

Thanks for the knowledge! Steve Reich FTW! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@AdnanAlsannaa]

This is easily my favorite vid from this channel

[@kerinjansenvanrensburg3509]

This was so helpful, thank you

[@TribecaBlackstarr]

nice one dude

[@zerozeroisland]

This is so wonderful! I had no idea you could set the decay to infinite on Digitakt. Thanks so much for this!

[@mudsh4rk]

The Octatrack is pretty unbeatable for this stuff in the digital domain. Even just loading the same sample on two tracks is enough if you start modulating the playback speed (timestretch off) very slightly with an LFO and then modulate the rate of that LFO slightly with the second LFO and then modulate the depth with the 3rd LFO (or some other combination of LFOs modulating other LFOs), and repeat for the second track but with slightly different settings for all the LFOs. If you keep the speedon all of them subtle enough that it doesn't really register as pitch modulation but the depth just high enough that it will throw them noticeably out of sync rather than just sounding like a flanger, you end up with a bed that can go for hours without ever sounding quite the same.

[@philpaintsstuff]

Man, you’ve just brought the Digitakt back into the frame for me, think I’ve definitely settled on an Elektron! Thanks for the heads up about the video last week!

[@hippisarecool]

Last thing sounded like default by atoms for piece

[@demokid2000]

You can do the same on e.g. a an old E-mu EMAX-II stereo sampler. Set e.g. different loop points or pich of the primary and secondary sample :)

[@hvrcat]

Great idea and a good reminder how useful it is to get out of the typical gear usage box.

[@simononutube]

needto just thinking exactly this as I am in a bit of a rut at the moment. This will pull me out!

[@eckharteric]

I did a whole four channel sound installation using this kind of looping technique and with some help from overbridge. It’s a very underrated use for the digitakt!

[@elipsis1]

Is that the arturia mini V toward the end that you are playing and tweaking live? LOVE it when that second voice comes in!!! Super phat! Great video as well, bravo 🙌🏼

[@loopop]

Thanks and yes!

[@greenvelvet]

Wow. That is deeply satisfying 😍

[@BenA718]

Great video! This can also be done in Eurorack using a sequencer like the the NerdSeq by cloning a pattern and making the copy one sample shorter.

[@simonpanrucker]

I love the bird track! Beautiful sounds :) Nice effect with the pitch of the birds modulating too!

[@KosmoDeuz]

Inspiring

[@dualtrx]

This is great. :D Good job.

[@spazecraft1973]

I first did this technique on an Akai S950 rack unit. I used to record live multisamples looped and muted them to get my variations in a song structure cause i didnt have a midi keyboard connected. Lol i believe ou can probably do this technique in the Samplr app on ios. Love your vids n tuts man. Thanks.

[@farty555]

Digital + Tactile = Digitakt. Who decided that the 'g' should sound different in each word?

[@DBPawlan]

Um, a non-English speaker?

[@Suba932]

Agreed. "deegeetakt" sounds fucking weird.

[@howardanderson3061]

I love what you do, you have the best videos and here's another one. Thank you so much, I've dreamed of creating off set loops. Now I can....in the day you would need 2 tape recorders ala Robert Fripp and Brian Eno We are so lucky today to have the technology to do things that were once impossible Thanks again for sharing this!!

[@loopop]

My pleasure - Thanks for taking the time to write!

[@23.5fm9]

thank u so much

[@IanBussAudio]

I need to go home and do this right now.

[@calderwood9641]

I'd love to see someone do this on a Deluge.

[@clagadymuf]

someone has Meerkat Music Lounge kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6jGh4yra7GIe6c

[@tsgodman4409]

Very cool bananas. Hit Record, let it run for a time, listen back and take the vibes you like .........just lovely techniques old chum.

[@Cautionary-Tales-Band]

You can also do this via MIDI in Ableton, if you have a synth that supports multiple layered voices. The fun part there is that both copies of the voice can share automation data, even though the notes change in phase relationship, so you can have shared filter movement or whatever.

[@CO5MA]

Really great video :)

[@MD_is_me]

I wonder how much motor drift between multiple tape machines contributed to the overall listening experience in the 70s.

[@duncandempster3848]

thank you for this excellent and timely video (your video demos and tutorials in general are excellent). As it happens, after much internal debate I just splurged on the digitakt, and this totally aligns with my desired workflow and aesthetic. Very encouraging!

[@jeroenfigee]

soooo cool! I heard 2 bars of the beginning of the video and tons of laughter here... Didn't expect that coming from the device. Never heard that track coming from anything else than an orchestra. Really cool idea! Thumbs up from me. :-)

[@senseitunes]

Nice video!! 🙂

[@BharathKumarIyer]

Fantastic! Thanks for talking about tape loops as a method. Looking forward to playing around free-time based loops on all my digital machines.

[@JoseFernandes-bp6rc]

Very creative!

[@julianfrank2461]

superb!

[@JA-gt8cr]

One of my favorite videos! If anyone is interested in this sort of (out of) phased looping but with much longer samples the Tsunami Wav Trigger is a great option. There are also ways to combine loops that are intended to stay in sync with those you want to go out of phase.

[@havokcc]

This is amazing, nice tips. Can't wait to get home and try with my octatrack

[@nickhutton251]

Can this be done on the octatrack? Seems like a silly question I know. But I am on the fence between the two. The digitakt is winning solely for the looping of the samples like this, but also because I know for sure you can do trig the sequence to evolve the sound over time without restarting the sample loop. I’m sure this could be done on the octatrack but am finding it hard to get an actual answer.

[@DanielKastner]

Very cool!

[@snoopyoverthehills]

very inspiring as usual! thank you i was experimenting with unquantized piano loops in ableton lately which was a lot of fun. i will bring this to the digitakt now :) pitty that it doesn't feature timestretching! that would be real tape fun :)

[@loopop]

Thanks! True, it would be cool with timestretch - though this way it actually behaves more like tape - slowing as you pitch down and vice versa

[@user-or3ce4gt2r]

Impressive !

[@TravellingSynths]

Another insightful video. Thanks man! Very inspiring.

[@raysubject]

what is that bass/pad sound you're playing on keys ? Which synth ?

[@comesect]

Been doing this for years in different ways...now I gotta check out this digitakt, thanks.

[@tlatsegms]

Amazing⚡️

[@vids4bigkids]

Thank you god!

[@MinecraftMaker]

This looks like the easy way to get there - it's always such a pain working with WAVE files in a DAW. The ambient stuff is lovely. I do find that the rhythmic phasing between left and right channels has a very different effect when played on speakers and headphones. At least my brain doesn't fuse the two ears the same way when coming from isolated sound sources.

[@gearpunk9632]

I've just tried this. Thanks a lot for the inspiration. Your vids are great!

[@nobbystyles4807]

that would drive me nuts working on that tiny screen.

[@lagduck2209]

Yeah. It looks stylish but I think they could have used at least hi-res screen, and stilyze graphics to be same lo-fi, but use hi-res waveforms and more smooth transitions.

[@philtowers1392]

Mpc60 owner here. This screen is like 4k super hd. Think about how much info on yr screen is just a distraction. Just a thought.

[@nobbystyles4807]

@@philtowers1392 yeah. clean workflow is an advantage. conversely when that workflow is packed into a screen that small the only way to manage its functionality is to create a page menu system.

[@GlowingShutter]

One of the most complex piano techniques is playing both sequences by one person out of phase. Incredibly hard. Normally the Steve Reich pieces are played by one musician per loop.

[@happyjessus]

This was pure gold! Please make more tips and tricks videos that teach us how to use the gear we already have instead of wanting new gear 😂

[@nathanricker1]

Works like a charm with the euro Bitbox as well. Much appreciated, as always.

[@Hut-181]

I watch videos like this then just stare into the middle distance and contemplate how I might unblow my mind.. This one will take a good long while. Thank you so much!

[@DarioMiticocchio]

I’m pretty sure you can do some form of this with volca sample (for this one “some form” is mandatory, just to adjust expectations), so404, any MPC, and very similar textures with any synth with multiple LFOs that can be unquantized,

[@FatalBrainError]

Holy shit, what a great video. Thank you! You can do similar things on the Volca Sample as well. Cheers!

[@technopriest8686]

You can essentially do this with the Novation Circuit by changing pattern lengths.