Organelle M vs. 1, and ORAC 2: Review and tutorial

[@modgrip805]

You actually did a better job, for the lay user, at explaining how to actually USE orac than the technobear. Thanks 👍

[@ricknorris1466]

AND a better job than C&G of explaining this thing.

[@kmontzka]

While the instrument may not be for me, I appreciate yet another through overview on this. And you did a wonderful job of showcasing it’s charm 😊

[@JeffCfreeradiorevolution]

Excellent job (as always). Very interesting device... like the improvements! Thanks!

[@alanturingandthetapes5575]

Thanks! I've watched hours of your videos at this point. They're a great resource!

[@loopop]

Thanks!

[@iosmusicman]

Can’t wait for mine to arrive tomorrow. Many thanks. Lee

[@SyncdAlien]

Awesome review, everything about which I was wondering! Thanks! 👍

[@KorhanErel]

As a long time organelle user, I would put the speaker on the cons list as well. Makes the organelle much larger without adding anything useful. Anyone who must hear the organelle out of a bad speaker could easily use a small external speaker. I cannot really understand why gear manufacturers put speakers on their equipment. I know earlier C&G instruments had them but they were generally much more primitive instruments than an organelle. A less significant con is the stereo jack output. I really like the separate outputs on the older organelle, as they allow me to send two separate mono signals to different destinations. Sure, the stereo out can also do that but with a separate Y adapter cable. On stage, the more adapters you have, the more problems you may have. Bad decision, but not as bad as the speaker. I would include the new midi in and out in the pros list as a very welcome addition, as well as the included wifi adapter.

[@TheTechnobear]

much of this is personal... I like having the speaker, and it harks back to C&G previous products... and many complained when the organelle was release that it was 'missing'. I also prefer the TRS jack for output... as I always ended up using a Y connector for the organelle-1. but batteries, and trs midi , much better CPU is worth entry alone - imho :) (still love my organelle-1 though :) )

[@KorhanErel]

@@TheTechnobear as personal as all gear reviews :) I use the Organelle quite a bit in many projects, including a new music orchestra, and less accessories to worry about is always best in my case. And the speaker is really unnecessary and can easily be remedied rather cheaply, if it is needed. Anyway, I think I will stick to my Organelle for the moment. Actually, I should make some time to explore Orac 2 and program a few new patches for my projects :)

[@KorhanErel]

The extra space could have been used for additional control elements, like faders, knobs, maybe a joystick, etc.

[@TheTechnobear]

@Korhan Erel I agree, id have like these too. however, I think C&G wanted to keep compatibility between the O-M and O-1, and perhaps bring back those that loved the standalone nature of the pocket piano? (etc) I guess the deal with the speaker is it makes it truly standalone - but for sure in a studio/live situation that’s not required- but helps to appeal to different market?! I think we should also commend C&G for the fact they are trying to retaining some compatibility/support for the organelle-1. so many companies release a new product then drop the older one without trace. particularly cool for such a small company!

[@KorhanErel]

​@@TheTechnobear I could not see this response of yours for days! Suddenly it's back :) (or I am an idiot). There will be many compatibility problems in the future anyway with the new faster processor. Users could simply buy a small speaker. Some organelle synths sound really good. They won't sound that good out of that speakers. It's almost a downgrade. I have a lot of appreciation for C&G. The Organelle changed many things in my music making and performance. I wish the new model was more appealing for me... I mean, it is appealing, but that speaker................ after I had found the perfect case for my Organelle to be able to put it in my backpack.... Now C&G is obliged to design a case for the Organelle to calm me down :D

[@LukeLine]

Great review LOOPop! This is on the xmas wishlist

[@tobyb8511]

I wasn't completely grabbed by the first iteration ... but while looking into a RPi4 I discovered Orac and am completely amazed and inspired by what Mark Harris @TheTechnobear has created on top of good hardware ... I am picking up an O-M on Wednesday ... and this review convinces me that that's a good decision ... I will probably get the RPi4 as a companion!

[@JamieClark]

Toby B can’t you make one with the raspberry pi anyway? Is it not powerful enough to run PD and do what the OM does?

[@tobyb8511]

@@JamieClark I think I will be able to do very similar things with the RPi, it's more than powerful enough ... but Patchbox OS/PiSound not ready for the RPi4 yet ... and while this +/- a Scarlett or other i/o, something like a Behringer UCA222 sound box, a keyboard (Keystep?), etc will do things well(same/different/better?), they won't have the neatly packaged form of the Organelle hardware/software ...

[@adamjohnson2497]

I was just wondering today when this video would arrive...lo and behold here it is! Fantastic as always, thanks!

[@ILLUDIUM_Q_36]

Thank you very much for this. You've answered all my questions 👍🏾

[@seanspartan2023]

I'm going broke watching your videos LMAO

[@vurnt22]

Great overview! Thanks!

[@saifeek]

Nice review as always 👍🏻

[@kostependrhs]

I was hoping i could play and create music but Its more an expensive toy for non-musicians. Hope it will evolve to a more serious instrument cause i like the size of it and the whole concept.

[@Darmstadtiensis]

How many voices polyphony? Extern microphone input? If you connect an extern controller - has it velocity?

[@rjschrei]

Organelle M or Zoia? Can't decide.Recommendation?

[@humanbeing_]

rjschrei - just commenting to point out it's been 2 months (as of the time I'm commenting) and you've gotten 5 👍 but no one has actually replied with thoughts or recommendations, which I took as the point of your original post [in the form of a question] lol Oh well. That's the KZbin comment section for you... Cheers! -H.B.

[@luvbeefy]

@@humanbeing_ yeah guess other people had the same question but no one that had a recomendation stumbled on this comment. you aren't helping

[@danforesman2627]

Hi, I stumbled over here from Knobs review of Zoia. I don't think I'll cut copy and paste the Knobs answer but it seemed at the time that organelle was a better route for discovering inspiration and Zoia for realizing specific ideas you want a platform to get to.

[@fatbenjamin3455]

@@humanbeing_ Having used both the original Organelle and Zoia I used the Organelle far more frequently for sound and idea generation. It's easy and fun to play with, while the Zoia involved far more time to develop FX and sounds and it was always a little too easy to max out the cpu. I actually sold both on but have always missed the crazy Organelle discoveries and hope to get an M at some point.

[@rjschrei]

fat benjamin thank you!

[@matthewwilson3673]

feels like this is an even more flexible option to the op-z, yea?

[@flann5802]

Yep

[@KarzenX]

I’ve seen a lot of reviews stating the original Organelle sound quality is bad. Pops and clicks and lots of artifacts. How is the M sound quality vs the original?

[@Phaseillfigure]

Would like to know also

[@loopop]

Just saw this comment. I didn’t notice any pops in the original or M. Do you hear them in this video?

[@Phaseillfigure]

loopop You’re right! Sounds amazing. Those people probably have defects or messed around a bit too much.

[@DivKid]

How hard did you try to not go full Alex F on it?

[@tColorsinspacerecordings]

I bought it and wanted to love it but ended up sending it back. Orac 2 is great but none of the cool scripts have been ported over so unless you’re good with PD you’re stuck with a couple cool, effects, synths and sequencers. None of the scripts worked when I tried using the Easter thing, so that is pretty much useless. The speaker sounded really amazing and having it run off batteries was nice as well. I would buy it again if Critter and Guitari made it so you run multiple apps at once like Orac but without having to port everything over.

[@vooveks]

Yeah - I had the first one and sold it soon after purchase. As I've said to someone else here, "It tries to do everything and ends up not doing anything very well". Looks cool, though!

[@tColorsinspacerecordings]

scubapig exactly. Although I miss having 3 rings and 3 clouds running in Orac.. with 3 separate sequencers running!

[@bluename4]

a better/bigger SCREEN would have been an adequate update to facilitate the intuitive/creative process

[@TropicIslandMusic]

I dont know how durable the op-1 and opZ are but you definitely want to take care with your organelle. Mine fell off my coffee table (onto carpet) and damaged the usb drive which needed resoldering. I'd be wary about chucking it in a backpack with other gear on the move.

[@shadowflash705]

TropicIslandpopartist That's why you should NEVER use long full size USB sticks with portable devices, laptops, car audio, game consoles as external storage. You use short ones such as SanDisk Cruzer Fit and similar from other brands if you need to use your USB drive as permanently plugged storage. For long ones it's easy to kill the drive, USB connector or even device PCB if you'll just just push it to the side by accident. Long drives are useful when you need to plug and remove it easily, for example to move files from one device to another, you don't use them as storage expansion or the only drive in your device. But well.... dropping stuff to the floor is also not a normal mode of operation.

[@Blight-fp3vt]

Dude, nothing saves a USB port from smashing the port with a dongle hitting the ground.

[@webbhinton6842]

You say that this model has more RAM/better cpu but on the website it says "In all other functions, the S is identical to the M. They share same patches, processor, RAM, audio & MIDI connections, keys, knobs, screen, microphone, HDMI output, USB ports, and power adapter."

[@loopop]

This is not a review of the S, it's of the OG - S came out years after this and the M

[@webbhinton6842]

@@loopop ok my mistakes thanks

[@RobAdmiraal-rj6ts]

Anybody knows if ORAC 2.0 will run on the organelle 1, aswell..?

[@iosifkalpaktsoglou2045]

I recently bought the original organelle 1[ not s] . Can I use oracle with it? Thank you

[@TommyTheCollector]

Looks sexy, but missed opportunity to stain the sharp/flats a darker color than the white keys. Still interested.

[@bendickson3486]

I think you should play Alex-F on all demos with keyboards; In Full. I always stumble on the last bit. I’m off to watch some Eddie Murphy movies… Great demo! 👋🏼

[@loopop]

Thanks! But I can just imagine the one copyright complaint taking down all my videos

[@vladimirussachevsky1315]

For an instrument that is so dependent on its screen, it’s a real shame that it is so small.

[@TropicIslandMusic]

The screen isn't a focal point of the machine and doesnt feel like its lacking

[@AdamsBrew78]

sbmphr My workflow is much quicker with Deluge than most devices with info dense screens (Mk3, etc) .. Very little menu diving w/ the matrix shortcuts., plus the waveform display via pads makes it a snap to isolate transients. Of course sample browsing would be more efficient with a larger screen, but other than that minor niggle, I don’t really miss it.

[@Claidheambmor]

As someone with very poor eyesight, I never had a problem using the Organelle. Then again, I grew up with the monochrome Gameboy and still love the MPC 1000 so this is luxurious to me haha

[@opwave79]

Isn’t there an HDMI output so you can hook this up to a monitor to program?

[@loopop]

Yes there is an hdmi output

[@joetrotta3331]

I have never seen any other individual configure their Wi-Fi network to use the Class A (10.x.x.x) private IP address range. Now I can't help but imagine you purchasing your 1,040,401st networking-capable music making device and getting frustrated that you ran out of IP addresses xD Anyway, cheers for the informative video, as always ;)

[@bluesgut]

Joe Trotta wat

[@joetrotta3331]

@@bluesgut Usually, home WiFi networks use a special set of IP addresses in what's called a Class C range. This range is (almost) all the IP addresses between 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 (each of the numbers can go up to a max of 255). This limits the number of devices that can be on the network to about 65 thousand -- not a problem for most home networks! If you do need more IP addresses, though, you can use a Class B range instead, which gives you a total of a little over a million IP addresses (my number from the original comment was wrong, but close). And if somehow that still isn't enough? The class A range is all the IP addresses that start with 10.x.x.x -- over 16 million IP addresses to use on your private network. For some reason, the network loopop was connected to in this video was using this Class A range. So I made a cheeky joke about him having so many internet connected music making devices that a class B range couldn't handle them all ;)

[@kisho2679]

would be helpful if the keys were LEDs (like Squarp Pyramid) with numbers on it

[@isaaccrow234]

well done!

[@mrmcsteezy]

6:00 MORTAL KOMBAAAAAAAATTTTT

[@snoopyoverthehills]

does adding patches through wifi also work on organelle 1 with a wifi stick?

[@loopop]

yes

[@snoopyoverthehills]

​@@loopop awesome, thanks!

[@kostantinosmag2986]

Nice one 🎶🎧🎶

[@stjamestheproducer]

is there a metronome?

[@changesmat432]

Great video as always. Two years later, is the processing power a deal breaker for new patches?

[@caasols]

I am also interested in knowing this.

[@redxheartxshapex]

I still use the Organelle with the new patches in 2022 and works like a charm, no issues at all.

[@LimGiong]

Thanks.

[@SandcastleTheory]

I'd be interested in a demo of its MPE capabilities, and what is involved in setting that up... Cheers!

[@part-slimer]

Great video as ever! Do you have any opinions on running orac on rpi as compared to an organelle? Obviously the cost of entry is much lower for an rpi based unit, and if i went that route i would go for the pisound. But the organelle benefits from a consistent platform and less likelihood of having to muck around with pd? Oh and a screen, and not having to assign controllers all the time. But wondered your thoughts nonetheless if you can. Thanks!

[@loopop]

Thanks! Yeah, I think the comparison to rPI/PISound forgets how much work the "boring" stuff like messing with putting a screen, knobs, enclosure and midi/audio connectors costs in terms of time and money, and what the end result would look like in terms of portability and ease of use. The release of Organelle M has seriously dented the resale value of the original Organelle - getting a used one on Reverb/ebay may not be all that more expensive than buying all the components, not to mention your time.

[@part-slimer]

@@loopop you know i hadn't even thought of the idea of organelle 1 dropping in price. That's a very good point. Thanks for the reply!

[@GregorMcNish]

I thought about running the organelle software on a rpu- critter and guitari release it as open source with a desktop pd patch for control. I was so impressed with it that i got an organelle.

[@TROGULAR10000]

I want *this* with a full size keyboard, not a Digitone Keys (even though it seems cool and powerful). All these clever ultra-portable machines should hav keyboard versions (OP-1, Circuit) you can gig with and that might be the only keyboard you take tot he show instead of boring old clavia

[@CritterGuitariInc]

Thanks for checking out the Organelle! You can connect MIDI keyboards/controllers to the Organelle if you want full size keys!

[@TROGULAR10000]

@@CritterGuitariInc i know i can connect a keyboard to it. the organelle is definitely my favorite of the small do-everything boxes but what the industry seems to not get is how these boxes can replace boring keyboard workstations if a keyboard is attached. You should have a keyboard version as well as the portable version. you could have a bigger screen also on the keyboard version, and mod and pitch wheels, and charge accordingly. it would be amazing. i mean you could have the organelle module with its fun wooden keyboard and a full size or even minikeys version with decent dedicated or assignable hardware switches and knobs

[@valley_robot]

Are these handmade,they look like raspberry pi projects

[@alinn.4341]

Its a Rasp Pi in it.

[@ahmetcangokceer]

Thank you so much for this video! 7:33 Can you do that on the original Organelle as well?

[@CritterGuitariInc]

Great question - yes you can use Ableton Link on the the original Organelle. Here's a video we made about that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGS5eaaQhat7aaM Thanks!

[@bluename4]

how does it compare to the "magus rebel technology"?

[@RustyX2010]

Can it play Crysis?

[@alexlubinski7795]

As a mostly guitar player (but getting more and more into synth stuff) - this or the Empress Zoia?

[@stoopidnametag]

Apples and oranges. You should get both

[@tColorsinspacerecordings]

Empress for sure. I ran my guitar through this and half the scripts didn’t work or were really clunky. I have Zoia and I love it for guitar and synth stuff

[@robertsyrett1992]

WHaatattatatatt? Do more stuff like at the end. Great demos.

[@rememberthisnameslut]

For everything thats in this, it seems like an absolute snip at the price its retailing at. I couldn't see me ever actually programming anything with this though. Would that be an issue? I'm not sure it would.

[@RustyX2010]

At $600 a pop I'll buy like 5 of them before they sell out during the Christmas shopping season!!!!!

[@gregarmstrong2500]

It's amazing how much money just buying a Deluge has saved me. I keep stumbling across awesome pieces of gear like this, that I definitely would have impulse bought a year ago and now I just look at my Deluge and sigh lovingly instead.

[@effebidi9677]

SAME HERE Bro. I have a total of 3 hardware synths but I have only Deluge for about everything now. Its the start and the base of every process. I have also Blolfeld and Monologue for to go more or less deep in to synthesis depending on which of two I choose.

[@gregarmstrong2500]

@@effebidi9677 Definitely. I still love my hydrasynth as a sound design tool and my neutron for weird noise making, but the deluge is the core of everything.

[@erictheavguy1]

ORAC...British Sci-Fi reference. Blakes 7!

[@crash936]

Can this be synced with sp404mk2 ?

[@primitivepatterns]

Would you be able to help me figure out what kind of cable I need to send stereo signal from my guitar? Right not it only shows up as the left input when playing. Also what would you recommend to use for sending a stereo signal from the Organelle m to an interface on one cable? or would you not recommend that? Thanks for the awesome vids as usual

[@nickademuss42]

feels like it could take years to explore all this little blue box could do.

[@dougmcbride7255]

Perfect for anyone who breaks their leg and is stuck in bed for a month

[@aken2348]

Ok, now we're talking. See, I would buy this 100 times over the Zoia. What do you think?

[@loopop]

Zoia's next so it indeed would be interesting to compare. Without going in too deep I'd say Zoia's easier to program, this is easier to control and enjoy shared presets due to the knobs, keys and screen options (some of which potentially Zoia could catch up)

[@nelieroCR]

Thanks for the video, great help! can you post the list of patches used at the end? :)

[@loopop]

Thanks! I don’t remember....

[@weepwow]

Organelle has always grabbed my attention, but I dont own one because of the form factor. As I suggested with the OP-1 and OP-Z, the Organelle would be 100% better in a Keystep body. Please combine your efforts with Arturia. Do that and I'll buy one. We are humans, not chipmunks!

[@chadbailey9692]

Excellent video (as always). I just randomly came across this while looking for videos on the Organelle. Coincidentally, I emailed you earlier tonight (email from Aaric). If you could, please reply. Thanks for the great content!

[@loopop]

Thanks!

[@archangelmichael5908]

I'm honestly considering trading my op-1 for this

[@suspenderated7863]

Archangel Michael I had an op-1, now I have an organelle M. It’s definitely a better instrument for me.

[@Phaseillfigure]

same but the more I look into organelle. It’s tough. OP1 is nice for arranging , I’m trying to find a way to own both and use em together

[@johnford1066]

Is this similar tech to what's going on inside the Zoia??

[@themite1796]

In a way yes. Though the organelle is completely open source meaning that you can do whatever you want with it as long as it has the hardware to run it and it can be programmed. With the zoia there is only the modules that are provided to create patches with so it's much more limited as to what can be done than with the organelle.

[@MarkoDeLaVoota]

.....and of course, a must have toy 🤔 synth

[@kevinsturges6957]

Please turn this into an iPad app. :)

[@gabrielemariotti5780]

HI, can you suggest other products that (like the Organelle) can sample using a Mic input? perhaps the MC-707? what else is there Thanks, love the channel.

[@caydilemma3309]

Gabriele Mariotti Digitakt can sample from external line input. MPC Live, Octatrack, Analog RYTM MkII, and Deluge are all more expensive options, but the Digitakt is probably the most bang for your buck in the sampler realm.

[@pfmmodule5144]

Blackbox

[@underwoodblog]

Build in crappy speaker = waste of space and money. Omit it and make it 5 bucks cheaper and smaller.

[@artissonbeats3057]

dope

[@deepseadiver8191]

In the Orac section of your review you make it sound like a very straightforward added function of the Organelle. Is swapping modules really as straightforward as you present it? Seems to me that in order to make the Orac run to begin with you need to take some quite involved steps and use additional software and a device to build and program racks. Is it not the case? I also would not call Mark’s Orac videos “excellent”. The information in them (and about Orac in general) is extremely scattered, incomplete and not easily approachable.

[@loopop]

Not sure I understand the question - I never edit out any steps - what you see is the way it works, if there are any other steps needed I will either show them or talk about them

[@deepseadiver8191]

loopop My point was about the Orac’s ease of use. Doesn’t Orac installation require configuring it via a remote OSC app? Aren’t you suppose to build and configure the Orac racks via such remote app? Your video suggests it does not. Is that the case?

[@loopop]

deepseadiver I never did any remote osc configuration - everything you see is as it is

[@deepseadiver8191]

loopop Oh wow. All this time I did not want to bother because of Mark mentioning OSC controls in his videos (makes me think that you must be referring to some other videos about Orac in your video]. So you say that other than uploading/installing Orac to the Organelle like any other app you don’t need to use a computer, iPad etc to configure the Orac rack? I followed the steps you showed and tried to assign patches to Orac’s slots but no patches are available and all I have is some Orac demo patch. This shows that the info about Orac is quite poor around the net ( and I did read through C&G forum searching for some user manual). I don’t find Mark particularly articulate in his videos (I guess he spends all of that in his code). It’s confusing whether the existing C&G patches can be used in the slots, if only some of them, or if only the Orac modules from the patchstorage can be used.

[@loopop]

Mark mentioned OSC controls because ORAC runs on other platforms where it has a more complex integration or requires that. No iPad or computer necessary on Organelle. Indeed not all patches can be used in ORAC, just the ones he bundles in it. ORAC is a voluntary work of Mark's so we should be thankful for what we get... it's not officially supported by C&G to my knowledge.

[@OHMSdev]

whats the max sdcard capacity on the organelle m?

[@loopop]

You know that’s a good question. I don’t know and I’m away from it now but you can always replace it or add a usb drive

[@OHMSdev]

@@loopop well I was interested in the sd card slot because of the fact that you could partition it into 2 drives which leaves me wondering if I could partition it into multiple drives for some possible benefit i.e. profiles with different presets for certain genres of music or something you know? I'm really eager to buy one.

[@CritterGuitariInc]

@@OHMSdev The included microSD card is partitioned into two already: one partition for OS, the other for patches and any sound files, etc. your patches may need. In the Patch partition, you can create folders that will show up on the Organelle's OLED screen in the Patch menu. Inside the default 'Patches' folder, you could create folders as you saw fit (e.g. "Ambient', 'Live Set', 'Jamz', etc.) and curate what is in those folders. Patches could have copies in one or more folders. And those folders could have folders too. At 4:08 you can see Loopop navigating into the 'Effects' folder....there could easily be folders inside that folder rather than just patches. You can also use a USB Drive the same way. The Organelle will automatically check if there is a USB Drive connected with a 'Patches' folder in the root directory and if there is, use that rather than the SD card. (The SD card must always be inserted as it has the OS on it too)

[@MrChrisKnight]

Sounds like a nightmare!

[@peterbode3005]

Great review, @loopop! Is this a good companion for a Deluge? Or is there too much overlap? What's your opinion?

[@loopop]

Peter Bode thanks! There's actually less overlap than you might think. Deluge is king of the grid - this is great for “off grid” sequencers, loopers and effects

[@peterbode3005]

Does the Organelle M gives the Deluge something extra? Or maybe the 'normal' Organelle?

[@loopop]

The normal one will do just fine as well as long as you’re aware of the differences as per the video

[@peterbode3005]

I watched your video, the differences are clear to me. I think the normal version will do what I want, sequencing it from the Deluge. I love ambient/drone music, I think it will be suitable for this task.

[@peterbode3005]

Thanks for your advice, appreciate it!

[@thibaultmarquet1955]

Hi Loopop, How do you proceed to access all the patches from orac ? I can use only few of them that i actually downloaded from preset site. I can’t find organelle « orac compatible » patches on the website so i can’t access to them on orac. Is it necessary to have an orac adapted module to use it with orac 2 on the organelle ?

[@loopop]

Hey - it has been a while since I looked at this - I used the patches that were bundled with Orac - I'd suggest hitting customer support or the forums

[@thibaultmarquet1955]

@@loopop Thanks ! I should learn a bit more orac. It feels like i don't understand it.

[@Kkidzz]

Krampus Koughed

[@MarkoDeLaVoota]

what you doing professionally, having time for all this....???

[@loopop]

Well - thanks to the support of nice viewers on Patreon, I indeed get to do this full time

[@tblv9300]

loopop congrats

[@joshshoe5024]

Stranger things spotted 11:17

[@milkweedreflections]

This thing really really did not need a built in speaker. Legit makes it look and feel like a toy. I'd legit rather buy the older model.

[@milkweedreflections]

@Chris Sunberg Or encoders, sliders, buttons, knobs, keys, fuckin kaos pad, pretty much anything but a giant ugly useless speaker.

[@RobinParmar]

I think we know the market this is aimed at. Quite unfortunate.

[@KrasavkinRomanE]

🤝🤔✌🏻👍🥰

[@buckbumble]

I don’t have access to a laptop or computer at home right now. Will I be lacking in sound possibilities?

[@loopop]

buckbumble do you mean with organelle? Not much

[@alienanxiety]

Interesting instrument, but you have to try really hard to make something this ugly. looks shouldn't matter though, but still. eeek.

[@milkweedreflections]

It's just that speaker. My roomate has the Original Organelle and it looks extremely sexy in person. That giant speaker is hideous tho and makes this look like a diy hack or something.

[@DRZADV]

that speaker is useless everyone on the planet already has headphones or speakers

[@shitmandood]

Are those cocobolo buttons?

[@cragwerks]

Maple.

[@miss.antidote]

Can't you just buy a laptop or a ipad for the same money?

[@RandomProductionszsz]

@loopop: I' m curious if you'd make a review of the Zynthian once too? It's a somewhat similar project as the Organelle, raspberry-pi based however. It uses a variety of linux-based plugin including pd. Also completely open source and with simple self-assembly!

[@webbhinton6842]

I really wish for the price that the wifi dongle was included...

[@MatheusLeston]

Great review! But I have to say, I think the Organelle is quite a strange instrument. Being a Max (and previously PD) programmer, I got extremely excited when it was launched, but now I'm feeling that it is quite contradictory. In one hand, the possibilities of PD are endless, you can do all sorts of amazing sound design and handy utilities and visuals and so on. And being able to do that in such a small device is absolutely brilliant. But, in the other hand, this doesn't seem to come across. I'm not sure if it is the design, the keyboard, the controls, the looks, but it seems to me that it is mostly used in a more traditional way, as a regular (although weird) synth, sampler, delay, whatever. I don't know, it seems that it actually missed the mark on what PD does best - which is the exact opposite of what Max for Live was able to do, bringing all the weirdness into a conventional daw.

[@RobinParmar]

That's a perceptive comment. For me there are two limiting factors. First, the sound just doesn't seem that good, as if the whole thing is bandpass limited. Second, the toy keyboard (and now speaker) contradict the potential of this as a sonic workstation. I keep hoping for a larger screen and other functionality. or how about an isomorphic control surface... something less orthodox! On the other hand, with ORAC the functionality went through the roof.

[@CritterGuitariInc]

@@RobinParmar RE: your limiting factors: You don't 'have' to use the speaker (it has line outs and headphone out) and you don't 'have' to use the keyboard (it has MIDI Input and works with Class-compliant USB MIDI keyboards/controllers as well)

[@hanzvolt]

@@CritterGuitariInc you dont 'have' to come off like a D ! ( I< head

[@heathfinnie]

@@hanzvolt I didn’t take it that way. They are said to be limitations, but they really aren’t as they have built in alternatives.

[@CaidicusProductions]

Awesome review, Loopop. Thanks for sharing this, such a nice surprise to wake up to.

[@setphaser]

which patch sampled and split your sounds to then loop a drum track? i just got my organelle M. initially i was so upset when they released it as i had bought the organelle and a speaker and a better pack only months before... but now i’ve upgraded to the M which is what i always wanted the organelle to be. what i like is that i can explore and not think to much, and find ,self playing patches that are these lost sounds i’ve always wanted to create, and they’re at my fingertips suddenly, it’s so creative and immediate.

[@MrTanukiD]

I can envisage these being a hit at the Google corporate Xmas barbecue. Do they ship with a beanbag?

[@mathiasjensen2841]

What patches were you using in the end?

[@Mingaura]

I am so frustrated I can't find a video on how to upload orac 2.0 and all it's prerequisites on the organelle, I think I might've downloaded orac but not fully my main menu on orac shows transpose width position and decay time. if anyone knows please help me!

[@sliduyzamnoyu]

Big copy of vintage Soviet designs of samplers and drum machines

[@AUTOxMATIK]

I didn't finish the video but will they update the original w the new internal hardware and mic? I don't want that speaker hanging out tbh.

[@loopop]

Not that I know

[@RobinParmar]

No, unfortunately.

[@anothervisionofthings]

I wish they did it too !!

[@bluename4]

does organelle feature a "midi-learn" functionality to map PureData parameters to an external hardware controller?

[@hunternicholson13]

Do you have to have a recording software to make the instrument function?

[@kosmikmusa]

Very good video. Thanks for sharing this. Would be nice if you could do a video using Biokas Midihub with Organelle M.

[@boimesa8190]

Price???

[@hollandcookson7718]

at the end there with the Uke and the delay--what patch is this or is it just the built in delay

[@MOABeats92]

Breaking into the syndicate '92 type beat

[@darthrex761]

How is this 2 …..years…… laterrrrr ? 🤔

[@jameshudson7053]

If you rub that thing a genie will bust out!

[@PocketUnv]

Such a great walkthrough, as always! Now for the agonizing process of selecting what to sell in order to get one of these...

[@vooveks]

I wouldn't bother, if I were you. I had the Mk1 and sold it soon after I got it. Cool idea on paper, but after a short while you realise it's not an _instrument_ , rather than a nerdy/hipster concept piece with a silly screen and buttons, that's way too fiddly to use. It tries to do everything and ends up not doing anything very well. You sound like someone who doesn't have money to burn, so do yourself a favour and don't burn it on this! Just my opinion, obvs. Nothing to stop you trying it for a few days if the store accepts open box returns, I guess.

[@PocketUnv]

@@vooveks being a nerdy hipster I guess that's right up my alley =)

[@vooveks]

@@PocketUnv In that case, enjoy! :)

[@effebidi9677]

hello. I actually don't get if is multitimbral or not. Those 8 slots are for patches, but their place might be occupied by more tasks..... but. I don't get. Is it multitimbral ? How many timbres ?

[@loopop]

Organelle runs Pure Data music patches or scripts. These can be either multitimbral or not (most aren't, some are) based on how they were written. ORAC can be for example.

[@effebidi9677]

@@loopopI might dig better in to it. Seams interesting but not so clear either and probably the manual only is the way. Thanx for reviewing.