Lord of The Rings: FOTR 4K Blu-ray Review - Good HDR, But...

We review the HDR presentation of Lord of The Rings: Fellowship of The Ring in the 4K Blu-ray trilogy boxset using the HDR toolkit on the Canon DP-V2411 professional reference monitor, and found peak brightness reaching 1000 nits, but little evidence of WCG (wide colour gamut) use.
We analysed the 2-disc Extended Edition (EE) of The Fellowship of The Ring.
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Warning: This video contains spoilers for LOTR: FOTR.
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[@flaviantropy]

Vincent is never late, nor is he early... He arrives precisely when he means to.

[@zakkwylde5545]

*reviews precisely when..

[@tazzydnc]

You’re a wizard Vincent!

[@vincevirtua]

what she said *ping* ..

[@chrisalbrecht7360]

😂😂😂#Gandalf

[@jonmango]

...always within 2 minutes *ding (hehe)

[@PurpleHaze06]

You're the only youtuber doing a proper objective analysis of 4K HDR releases that I know of - everyone else is very subjective and anecdotal in their approach. I think they're super valuable to the community, as it's great to have somebody holding Hollywood feet to the fire exposing the lazier releases in this way. If you stop doing them will be a shame but hopefully somebody else can get hold of one of these monitors and carry the torch.

[@turfoid7899]

I agree. He has a pretty impressive toolkit too. *insert inuendo joke here lol

[@agentjtravel_walkthru4205]

Agreed!!!!!

[@LELABODEJAY]

not the only one, but yes the only one that use 30 000 monitors. But there are so many other tools to do it. Analysis are good but opinions are more discutable to my point of view.

[@Sonickrunch]

My biggest problem with this is max luminance isn't the only aspect of HDR that matters though, but I'm not sure how you would test it, but imo the colour "dynamics" are much more obvious and in this case, there are some scenes that look good, but I think Two Towers and King were produced much better.

[@hdtvtest]

@@Sonickrunch Exactly. We do objective measurements in our 4K Blu-ray analysis, not subjective impressions of "dynamics".

[@ES-qy2ju]

Soo this HDR goes bright when there's some magical light. And is conservatory on everything else. I'd say it's a proper creative use of HDR

[@VargVikernes1488]

It's tasteful and respectful towards the original vision.

[@radry100]

I think the reason is more that this is specifically mastered for home cinema and Oleds. Thus there is no point is mastering brighter than 400-600 nits full screen.

[@uniform1313]

@@VargVikernes1488 Yes, I'm sure this was done for very specific reasons...they probably didn't want to change the color palette at all...just brighten lighting.

[@Marqjosh]

Is it worth upgrading from the Blu-ray version? I’m using a 4K tv with only 630 peak hdr brightness anyway and a ps5 or Xbox series x to play the disc.

[@uniform1313]

@@Marqjosh Yes, of course. The overall transfer is way better....supposed to be one of the best 4k releases ever...whole different ballgame.

[@Foxanic]

Thank you Vincent for the detailed explanation. Don’t listen to those who only want a quick answers without understanding the technique behind. Don’t change 🙏🏻

[@andrewg2679]

Love watching your HDR analysis, crazy the studios wont send you a copy. If I was trying to sell UHD HDR BluRays, I would aim for a HDTVTest Vincent Platinum, Gold, or Silver sticker of approval on the case.

[@primad77]

They won't send him review-copies because he is dead honest and will call dog shit for what it is! All power to him! Please don't change!

[@tyo101]

Your work on these technical analyses is greatly appreciated, thank you. Please do not feel any pressure to produce them, especially if it is a great effort for you to do so.

[@budthecyborg4575]

So that was Sauron's key, only Mordor has Wide Color Gamut.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

I hope you'll also do reviews for The Two Towers and The Return of the King.

[@alliejr]

Peter Jackson, himself, supervised the remaster of ALL the movies, including the Hobbit movies. They were all remastered to the same standard and all color-corrected to be consistent with one another and to play as if they were one long movie that was filmed at the same time with the same technology-- even though the movies were made over the span of almost 20 years with different technologies.

[@AdamH7]

I would say they're to the same quality

[@TomlinsonHolman52583]

I would say Fellowship is the best looking of the three. More lively colors and slightly more grain.

[@battfinkz]

They are all outstanding, absolute joy to watch (and hear, the atmos sound mix is probably the best I've heard)

[@Dulk9]

@@battfinkz I would say Hobbit Trilogy looks horrible with it’s fake CGI crap. LotR effects are way better, mainly because they are mostly practical.

[@PhilArnold001]

would love to get your take on the other two films in the series!

[@KRIL89]

Same I hope he does them. The colors could be better also since they went to digital colors for the next two movies. Idk what that means but Peter Jackson said that haha

[@Mindseas]

Ditto!

[@elliotrosen9842]

Same here!!

[@isme86]

Vincent, we really appreciate the HDR reviews you do. There is really no alternative information source on the application of HDR in UHD Bluray releases. Your work is greatly appreciated!

[@TomlinsonHolman52583]

Nice to see our Panasonic UB9000 HDR10 Metadata screen hitting around the same numbers as your findings. I hope someday consumer tech will feature HDR analysis tools like the Canon DP-V2411. Thanks as always, Vincent.

[@SephirothWins1]

Would love to get your analysis of Dolby Vision for this since its one of the few films that comes with it. Are there noticeable differences between HDR and Dolby Vision for these films?

[@hddanman7263]

Do you know if that monitor does or doesn't have Dolby vision?

[@ES-qy2ju]

probably not much, maybe in scenes where it exceeds 600 nits DV deal better with highlights

[@MrDestroyedSoulx]

Don't a lot of 4K movies have Dolby Vision on them??

[@rbaz9454]

"its one of the few films that comes with it" what? I have 20+ 4K Blu Ray movies and they all have Dolby Vision

[@ShMartinJo]

@@rbaz9454 He’s still right though. Physical movies tend to get less support on Dolby Vision than their Digital counterparts.

[@jabbapl]

I usually browse YT anonymously but for such fine work You deserve all the credit. I really hope You do more UHD BR reviews. This is very helpful and hopefully puts more pressure on distributors to actually put some hard work to deliver us content which is worth our money.

[@davemathews5704]

Thank you Vincent! Some of us watch these on nit starved projectors. Your detailed gamut analysis (close to rec709) help give us peace of mind to watch without color filter engaged to help get as many nits as possible for that HDR pop without loosing much color throughout movie. Also nice analysis of real (but judicious) use of HDR. (just updated JVC firmware to get latest tone-mapping capabilities, and your detailed analysis shows it will be utilized well, thank you again!) Bring on the Balrog!

[@randomdriver]

I really like these HDR movie analyses. Please do not stop making them. These gives so much info what is really going on with the film. Like in case of the Blade Runner 2049 I was wondering is my tv broken or what is happening.

[@mrmorot]

Thank you for spotting the DNR/Edge Enhancement. For me that was a deal breaker and I had to return the set. If a 4K set has less detail in the image than the older, previous edition, there's no point rebuying for me. I was really disappointed.

[@TomlinsonHolman52583]

The strength of these 4K Blu-ray's is nice HDR and very high bit-rate (100Mbps at times). But I share your opinion on Jackson's liberal use of DNR. Terrible choice in my opinion, as a lover of analog film.

[@C--A]

@@TomlinsonHolman52583 One day probably after Jackson is long gone The LOTR trilogy will get properly remastered. Without any digital noise reduction or edge enhancement. Plus an actual 4k scan of the original film negative.

[@mrmorot]

@@ReGo001 The DVD is too low a resolution to even matter in this discussion. If you want proof that this went through DNR hell, check out caps-o-holic. The extended Blu-ray is grainier, but it has way more detail than the UHD.

[@albinsellden8615]

"How many sex jokes can you come up with?" Vincent: "Yes"

[@danielpledger939]

Thanks Vincent, hoping to see the rest of the trilogy analysed could you possibly talk about the colour grading too?? X

[@CIasslc]

Please more movie reviews, what you’re putting is very unique and no other channels review movies with such expertise and information

[@Aeong]

Yes please keep doing these analysis! I definitely want to see an analysis of the Two towers and The Return of the king. And if you need to make the analysis shorter give it a try. I personally don't care to much for the wide colour gamut parts and I care much more on max and minimum brightness for example.

[@Uber_Xeno]

Hang in there, V. As more people acquire good quality 4k/HDR TVs, these videos will become more and more useful to more people. Don't give up on these yet.

[@remic2902]

What a great review ! Please more 4K reviews. I love it. We need it. We need you. Thank you so much for this hard work.

[@prototime]

This analysis is awesome! Thank you. Would absolutely love to see you do a similar analysis of The Two Towers and The Return of the King!

[@GoffredoMarocchi]

Please keep doing these reviews, this was a very useful and very honest (and independent) view of the movie transfer to 4K HDR. Best HD TV channel by far!

[@thenonexistinghero]

Just watched this movie on my new 4K blu-ray player last night and it looked fantastic for most part. Can't say I agree about the film grain. I can accept natural film grain if it's there, but I love a clean look in general. I do think removing natural film grain can result in the loss of detail, but I don't think they overdid it in this movie. One thing that did stand out is that some of the scenes looked a bit low-res. Mostly fairly short shots, as if they forgot to upscale them properly. But I'm not sure if it's the movie or if maybe the image quality degrades slightly if it has trouble reading or something to prevent skipping (though that does not seem likely. I'm using a Pansonic UB820).

[@4thewin759]

Excellent review. I would love to have the next 2 reviews! Hopefully your traffic analysis makes it worth your while!

[@erazorCTF]

Vincent it is totally important that someone serious reviews all those 4K HDR titles in depth, there is no other source like you for this. If you can afford it in any way, please keep doing it.

[@PrairiePolarBear]

Excellent! Love your technological reviews of 4k movies Vincent! Keep up the great work and Merry Christmas from Canada!

[@chrisd6736]

Lol the HDR gets ridiculously bright in some scenes. It was used pretty sparingly. Def an improvement over the originals.

[@MAFion]

TBH, I'm not really impressed by the flashes of peak brightness in a film. I know it's more "natural" or whatever, but this is cinema. And I don't know about you, but I've never seen Dolby Vision in a theater. That wasn't the cinema I was raised with. HDR might mean more for documentaries, or news, or sports, or gaming, but in cinema, 24 frames per second with good color, contrast, detail, at a cinema-like immersive size is perfection. That, and some lossless 5.1 DTS is a good time.

[@radry100]

I like your HDR analysis videos. I wouldn't mind if you make them shorter if that's less work for you.

[@OldDood]

I liked the 4K re-Release of these three films. What I had to do to view it the 'Best Way' for me anyways was to change the picture from Movie Mode to Standard Picture. The films were 'Too Dark'. Especially when they were in Moria. Standard Picture 'Brightened' it up just enough to see it a LOT more clearly. BTW: I own a Samsung Q80T (55")

[@DasTechGuy]

While I agree, a review of The Two Towers and The Return of The King would be fantastic I would actually prefer a review of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey to show the advancement of time and technology on how consistent the color grading could be across all six redone films! Keep up the amazing reviews!

[@agentjtravel_walkthru4205]

Well I appreciate your hard work! Thank you for sharing your findings and examples.

[@ManWhoLostTooth]

Vincent don't give up on this series! You are doing good work and people WILL notice! With the influx of 4K HDR capable displays around the holidays I'm sure the views will start to pick up.

[@kekethetoad]

I can't help feel that it's simply better to watch in SDR. Wasn't that the format it was intended for anyway even in original cinema release?

[@buttergolem8584]

I'm really looking forward to get both triologies in 4K.

[@alliejr]

Vincent. Great job! As you point out, Peter Jackson personally supervised the remaster of ALL 6 films (including the Hobbit films). I have no doubt they are all done to the same standard. Per Mr. Jackson, he wanted them all to look as if they were one continuous movie. I think there is no need for you to do the same analysis on each release. They are all the same.

[@AlainSutter1337]

Thanks for your analysis, and as always good work. Also props for discovering the HDR issues on Cyberpunk 2077. I was changing settings and couldn't get satisfied at all. Your Vid about it explained why 😅👍🏻

[@marchismo8514]

Other 4k bluray disk reviewers give insightful opinions but that's all they are at the end of the day, opinions. I am extremely thankful that you have produced quantitative analyses of these disks. 4k HDR movie viewing can become an expensive hobby, however, through your videos I feel a lot more comfortable in my purchasing decisions of these disks. Please don't exert yourself unnecessarily (for this exercise at least) but please do keep up this excellent work.

[@DS-nh2yf]

"It's not often that I want to be in handcuffs" *ding I don't know why, but I find this channel funnier than any standup comedians right now.

[@Pienimusta]

Really enjoy the technical side of these, but not sure how many people actually even have 4k HDR blu ray player, aside from consoles, let alone who buys those dvds.

[@filupmarley]

I find these HDR analysis videos extremely valuable. Keep up the great work Vincent!

[@Dave-K-Notts]

Very much like the HDR analysis videos. Thanks.

[@RK-jp4xe]

I watched the trilogy on an incredible Sony A9G OLED with panasonic 820 4k player. I thought it was a good experience and an upgrade. However, I was mostly disappointed with the use of DNR in certain scenes. It could get ugly at times. The DV HDR was well used and beautiful for a lot of the trilogy. I wish it had better detail though and it ended up being a bit disappointing due to this matter.

[@Soundtracks92]

I love the HDR on Lord of the Rings. It’s bright enough when it needs to be and not too bright :) I think it’s beautiful overall. Sometimes HDR for certain movies can be too bright in my opinion, to the point of where I need to strain my eyes.

[@reflexfine8267]

I'm sick of bright HDR

[@ElliotCoen]

Thanks, Vincent. Invaluable analysis here! It's such a shame about the DNR in this release.

[@nordscan9043]

It deserved alot more love and care.

[@robinanwaldt]

@@nordscan9043 A lot more love and care? The 4K conversion of the LOTR films was some of the most dedicated stuff the format has seen yet.

[@nordscan9043]

@@robinanwaldt The dnr makes the people waxy.

[@robinanwaldt]

@@nordscan9043 I don’t see how that has anything to do with my comment. Anyways, yes, if DNR is overused (like with Terminator 2) people will look waxy. However, this is NOT the case with the LOTR 4Ks. In fact, there are lots of 4K transfers out there that use DNR and don’t overdo it.

[@AndyGilleand]

@@robinanwaldt in many places its worse than T2

[@ApacheRambo]

Please do the rest of the movies in the series! Thanks for bringing this info to the table, you’re awesome and I appreciate the hard work you put into these videos very much. Thank you !

[@Bakenojo10]

Thank you for the work you put into your video's! I can always turn to you for accurate and comprehensive information instead of the normal "fluff" by some other "KZbinrs". Thanks again and FYI I just got my set of 4k LOTR delivered so will be enjoying them in the near future!

[@SyFyJoe]

I enjoyed your 4k hdr review, Vincent! If you keep posting them, I'll keep watching them.

[@sk3t1les]

Definitely would like to see a Dolby vision comparison.

[@dubster82]

Great video, I appreciate your analysis videos and I hope it better educates people about actual high DYNAMIC RANGE and what good implementation looks like over people that are convinced for HDR they just need an LCD outputting 10000 nits. If we're doing requests I'd like to see Marvels Guardians of the Galaxy 2. If I recall the director James Gunn is a big fan of HDR and TV's to have true cinema mode implementation. On that second movie I think I read he had to convince the studio to let him film in native 4K HDR, because up until then they were against it I think. He also tried really hard to go for stunning visuals on that movie over the first and it'd be interesting to see how it stacks up in your opinion.

[@Horos_de_Vega]

How does the HDR of the GoT 4k bluray set look like? Thanks in advance for the ones who can tell me!

[@keir92]

It's "how does it look?" or "what does it look like?", never "how does it look like?"

[@Horos_de_Vega]

@@keir92 Merci. Je m'en souviendrai.

[@olexryba]

Hi Teoh, would you review how well PS5 fares as a Blu Ray player?

[@beardymcchin7]

Yes please! I wanted to buy a couple favs on 4K physical, but have heard of some issues.

[@baronzemo78]

@@beardymcchin7 I am also interested in the Xbox Series X as a 4k UHD player.

[@HigherQualityUploads]

@@baronzemo78 Vincent has said that Series X doesn't output true blacks, but it'll likely be fixed, since this was also an issue with Xbox One X but was patched.

[@baronzemo78]

@@HigherQualityUploads yep. I saw that. Once it is fixed I hope we get a video on Xbox Series X video settings.

[@jonbaldwin]

Neither console supports Dolby Vision for disc playback

[@isak6626]

I really appreciate these videos. They complement the other more subjective 4K reviews out there.

[@andreheppelthwaite660]

Thank you Vincent for all your detailed 4K Blu-ray analysis, I really appreciate it but, if I'm honest, only for the movies I'm interested in and not as much as for your display reviews. But, I do hope your extensive effort could be acknowledged in a commercial label scheme such as Andrew G suggested previously in his comment. Looking forward to the next LOTR's reviews, fingers crossed..

[@cinergiflims]

I think you have something to add with this analysis but could tighten up and also cover other technical aspects of the presentation as well as the overall feel of the film and the 4k transfer etc. Check out a channel called short change. They do excellent work and I often give their review a look when deciding between digital download/stream or physical disc. Rather than abandon this type of content you should tweek it to broaden the appeal, really work on your thumbnails etc and see how that works.

[@elliotrosen9842]

THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS!!! I know it takes a lot of your time but I so appreciate the spectacular HDR analysis that is simply not done by anyone else. Could you please keep doing these as time permits. I find the information very valuable - please & thank you!!

[@Gump24601]

Love your work Vincent and the detail you've provided. Hopefully this review will generate enough traffic for you to warrant reviews for the rest of TLOTR movies, maybe even including The Hobbit trilogy!

[@fist003]

thanks for the video Vincent. i do wonder if there's any difference between physical blu ray and streaming version of movies.

[@setaside2]

Brilliant, concise, and enough for me to know that my interest in the 4K edition is back to actual. I appreciate that. Subscribed. Sorry I didn't find your channel, earlier. Well done, sir.

[@YehKellb]

Hi Vincent, please carry on doing these hdr analysis videos that are informative and very useful. The objective analysis is fantastic. If little kick back is returned for the effort why not consider patron followers getting to see them? Just an idea ! I would pay for objective high quality analysis. Especially when it comes to spending that kind of money on the 4K blu rays. Thanks Vincent!!

[@billygoff8345]

I think this type of scenario is where shooting in film/ imax may have its upside, because re-mastering the original film decades later to digital conversion keeps up with the technology. As we have seen the move to 1080 and now 4k, older films can retain the perceived resolution. 70mm imax theoretically is 12k footage, and that has been in use now for 30 years. Though i dont know about luminance /contrast data with traditional film.

[@MattyDante]

Yes to videos for The Two Towers and The Return of the King. And I appreciated you doing the analysis of the Extended Edition of the Fellowship of the Ring. Top notch video as always.

[@MarkTallen]

I enjoy these videos, Vincent and I find them fascinating. I do hope that you continue making them. I'd like you to do an analysis on one of The Hobbit 4KUHD movies. I appreciate that it takes up a lot of your time but you do the best HDR and WCG tests for us 4k film enthusiasts.

[@diminishedreturn]

Interesting! I wasn't aware of this little 'review series' and will check out some of the rest for sure!

[@XDLugia]

It would be fantastic if you would do an HDR analysis on some (or any) of the Marvel movies like Avengers Endgame, Spider-Man Homecoming or Iron Man.

[@BenArcher]

Please keep up the HRD analysis, its the only source for this info, and so valuable. I'll share it more I promise! I'm joining your patreon now!

[@TheGameTunes]

The TLOFT UHD release has NOT used edge enhancement nor are they native 4K masters created from the camera negatives. Barely anyone has realised that this is the first 4K UHD Blu-ray release to use a form of AI upscaling; and the algorithm chosen is particularly awful! Jackson has used an algorithm similar to the 'preserve detail' upscaler option in Photoshop; it looks terrible. I'm shocked that a Hollywood studio would use such a bad algorithm; especially for something like TLOTR. This algorithm makes sharp edges stronger and smoother bud does not actually invent any new detail; thus it has the effect of making the image's sharpness very uneven and as a result looks cartoon-like. Even consumer AI upscaling solutions such as ESRGAN or Topaz AI would have done a better job at creating a higher fidelity image. Thankfully the use of AI upscaling is not something I've ever seen done with a 2K upscaled UHD release before, and I hope this is the last time it happens unless they actually use a good algorithm and fine tune each scene by eye in the future for the best results.

[@VargVikernes1488]

I don't care about HDR analysis in most modern Hollywood trash, but this trilogy holds a special place in my heart and I would like you to follow up with Two Towers and RotK analyses, as well.

[@wongd12]

Awesome work from this talented multi-lingual reviewer. Would it affect my purchasing decision? not likely. I'm still using a pioneer plasma 1080P (isf calibrated), but i appreciate the craftwork of these reviews. Had it not been for Vincent, I would of assumed that 4K HDR transfer on the front cover of the blu-ray packaging actually meant that. From Vincent's reviews I now have an understanding of a HDR container with SDR content (a poor transfer). Thanks for opening my eyes.

[@adriannn3720]

Even if the HDR is bad, the 4K will probably still outperform the Blu-Ray, due to the higher bitrate, better compression codec, and higher resolution.

[@destroy-erase-improve9106]

Love your 4K reviews. Hope you continue doing them. Thanks for your efforts Vincent

[@conspiraceyofone]

i know it isn't the main thing you focus on, but can you comment on the suspicion that it's just an upscaled 2k image vs a true native 4k one? i feel like most documentation online says that its a native 4k scan, but it really, really doesn't look like it.

[@TheJoshkc662]

The DNR is pretty bad, I find it very distracting. Might need to step back down to the Blu-ray.

[@Chrisabled]

Thank you Vincent. Very nice video! An analysis of the other Lord of the Rings movies and the Hobbit trilogy would be very interesting.

[@BringusTheDingus]

I would imagine the other two films would be almost identical in their approach to HDR, film grain, etc, but I would still watch your breakdowns

[@Gostawski]

10:08 yep that's where it exceeds because Peter Jackson already mentioned in these scenes they recreated fire and flame for 4K because the original one looked bad for 4K.

[@ElectroFunkNinja]

Just watched fellowship 4K earlier today, disc 1 looks really washed out in terms of colour, disc 2 is fine. I even put the blu rays on to double check and disc 1 does not look washed out, da fuq!

[@chrismiller5433]

yo... I am a feature film visual effects compositor. it was actually really interesting watching this. one thing I noticed 2 minutes into it is that there is heavy temporal noise reduction. it's sad when the absolute worst decisions are made with a title that so many people love. they have to treat the grain no matter what when upressing to UHD, but this is disappointing.

[@vrucewayne]

just FYI, you CAN use clips from the film under fair use research / educational purposes if you do get copyright just send them a little thingy back

[@KhromTX]

Please keep doing HDR Analysis videos. Do Tenet next!!!

[@andrewlau9583]

awesome stuff Vincent. I suspect these videos will get more popular with time but thank you whatever you choose to do next

[@scottsmith8546]

Excellent job Vincent, these are some of my favorite movies...and I for one am glad to see you doing this HDR review. Thank you.

[@RAN480L64]

I had to crank the saturation in my player lol and set the clipping curve to 100 nits the movie was so damn dark and desaturated it was really sad I think they are just afraid of the default cranked settings on most TVs and wanted to be as conservative as possible but it’s annoying for those of us with proper setups 🙄

[@mrchrisliddell]

We truly appreciate the in depth analysis!

[@KayD__o]

Thank you soooo much for this Vincent! These are my favourite movies. I feel like this trilogy is so important and has been so influential. I really hope you do the other two! Thanks again :)

[@larsstougaard7097]

Thanks for the video, hope you avoid handcuffs this time Vincent, otherwise call us, we'll be happy to bail you out ( again 😄).

[@craigschray4486]

Wonderful job sir! Thank you for your time and efforts to give a great analysis. I will definitely be checking out your other reviews.

[@sirishgauni]

love your HDR analysis videos! if possible please do compare the remaining two films of LOTRs

[@username19237]

Sad to hear that it’s difficult for you to continue these types of videos. They’re my favorite from your channel. I shared this video and I hope they can generate more traffic to make the effort worth it.

[@s9209122222]

Wasn't it filmed with films? Why no wide gamut color?

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Probably because they didn't do a proper new scan.

[@nusilver]

Whether or not it's worth it for you to keep doing these videos, I appreciate your insights! I have a 65-inch LG OLED that's nice for pop, but I vastly prefer watching films projected. My projector, alas, is an entry-level ViewSonic PX727-4K, which has excellent IQ but is completely incapable of doing any kind of justice to HDR or the REC.2020 color space (in fact, reds in REC.2020 turn to a burnt orange color, which, you know, sucks.) So: I watch all of my HDR discs converted to REC.709 (thanks, OPPO!), and have been targeting somewhere between 250-400 nits for the LOTR 4K discs. Thanks to your analysis, I have confirmation of what my eyes told me: there are only a handful of moments in this film that blow my luminance targets, and I don't think it's worth targeting 500 or 600 nits just to, for example, see Arwen's face a little better when she first appears, when you couldn't see it on the SDR Blu-ray anyway.

[@Melinon]

I was hoping to see this review in particular, so I appreciate you taking the time to do it. Overall though it's probably going to be of limited interest, unless there's something special about the HDR presentation of a movie to spend much time analyzing.

[@bighands69]

It would look amazing on a large screen though in the home. I going to be getting an 85 inch TV especially for HDR movies.

[@thedarksideoftheforce6658]

So is this 4k blue ray worth buying or not? I am buying a lot of 4k blue rays and the amazon reviews aren't by professionals. Please keep doing them. There are a lot of people like me that want this. Please do the matrix 4k blue ray trilogy. I am waiting to buy the lotr 4k bluray and the matrix trilogy 4k bluray.

[@g.e.o.r.g.e...]

Do you also have in your possession a 4k hdr THEATRICAL edition? I remember there being a difference in visual presentation between that and the extended edition.

[@dontpokethebear3893]

For the 4K the color and hdr grading is exactly the same between the two. For the blu rays it was different because it was done at different times for different releases. For the 4K release it was done once so scene for scene is the same between the two versions.

[@g.e.o.r.g.e...]

@@dontpokethebear3893 then the color grading we have is kind of greenish for the theatrical version as well? Shame.

[@dontpokethebear3893]

@@g.e.o.r.g.e... no the exact opposite is true. They did a brand new color grading for the 4K release. Color timing is accurate now for all versions.

[@g.e.o.r.g.e...]

@@dontpokethebear3893 looked green in this video, but some of the screengrabs ive seen online seem fine. I guess I'll have to check it out myself.

[@bae9212]

Good review, Vincent! Appreciate your enormous effort and work! Please keep up!

[@Svante]

Better colors, without annoying teal, but instead we get DNR and Edge enhancement. Why do they always have to fuck something up?

[@C--A]

Blame Peter Jackson who was given total control over the 4k blu ray transfers. His own company Park Road Post handled the transfers. And it also looks like it was the same ancient blu ray master used. And not a new 4k master from a 4k scan of the original film negative.

[@turfoid7899]

Vincents the onpy one doing this in an accurate and professional manner. Gg

[@rolithesecond]

Have any of you guys checked out the channel HDR-X? They do HDR grades and upload movie clips as demos of their work. They have Lord of the Rings stuff on there and, like everything they do, it looks absolutely fantastic.

[@dmunro9076]

Please review the TTs and ROTK! This was a very interesting and informative review. Thanks!