LORD OF THE RINGS: RINGS OF POWER Season 2 Episode 5 - My Opinions! (and addressing the hate)

[@RJ420NL]

You seem like a nice person and I don't want to dump on your positivity. Best wishes.

[@Yrgen2]

Don't let those sad people discourage you. stay positive if it's genuine!

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

@@Yrgen2 Thank you 😁

[@rushy9895]

I actually enjoyed this episode of he most!

[@PiscatorLager]

Aye. I care about the Rings, Dúnedain lore and Disa, while I don't care about the Protohobbits and Meteor-Man.

[@roseandjones8390]

I'm watching it but i annoy myself with constantly observing how it just doesn't make sense. . For a start. . Elves are now my least favourite species in the middle earth universe. . Wingey, naive, uncomfortable in their out of proportioned ears. . However, i didn't mind episode 5, it's my favourite so far. Love the Dwarves thankfully. But was so pleased to see an ent wife. 🌳🌴👌

[@lkmjin]

It makes sense only if you smoke salvia divinorum

[@swbuza]

Ignore the dumb trolls and keep doing what you're doing. They are weak and simple minded fools. I love seeing your stuff.

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

@@swbuza you’re so kind - thank you!

[@mizzlchieizzl]

I think fanfiction is pretty damning myself. I tend to think of it like Disney Land and Disney World rides and features. Do they insult the memory of amazing disney stories? Probly. Are they real people we're hurting? Nope, not at all. And don't worry, even the family is mostly not hard core, which a lot of folks forget : ) good luck!

[@VolkerWendt-vq8pi]

Well, you got me here. Like many, I don't like the show. But for whatever reason, I like the harfoots. Or at least these 2 ladys

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

@@VolkerWendt-vq8pi Glad to hear it! I also don’t really know why I like the harfoots, there’s just something about them

[@DJKnightProductions]

This show is terrible.

[@drnekodr]

Even as a stand alone show.. the writing is very bad.. extremely bad.. unwatchably bad.

[@swbuza]

A ridiculously stupid take given the millions of people who watch the show.

[@thekas1997]

Big ol’ cup of positivity

[@juanhumo1884]

I'm not a big Tolkien reader, and yet I know some basic things, like the fact that elves are old, wise, and hard to fool. But in this show, every elf takes turns acting like a dumb, immature child who is easily fooled, and even after realizing it, they still make stupid, childish decisions. That's just lazy writing and makes for a very bad show, even as a standalone piece

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

I agree with you here, I think their point is supposed to be that Sauron has tricked and manipulated the elves, but the showrunners could’ve done it in a much cleverer way rather than making them look dumb

[@swbuza]

Elves make stupid and childish decisions. That's in the lore.

[@chiesiucm]

@@BeckyDoesBlog TBH though they are all shell shocked. They did dumb things and we should always know they are fallible too

[@mliem]

Big fan of the show and of Tolkien here. Loving your positivity!

[@ManchesterEagle]

Oh wow. Your channel really attracts the haters! A lot of people love this show (including myself). This series has been great, particularly the Annatar/Sauron parts. Glad you enjoy the Harfoots. Halflings are a huge part of Tolkien’s work. Don’t apologise for expressing your opinion!

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

I’m so glad to hear I’m not the only one enjoying this show! Don’t get me wrong, it’s not perfect, but there’s definitely positives to it and I’m enjoying watching it! Thank you for letting me know I’m not alone 😁

[@ManchesterEagle]

Far from alone. I’ll direct a few people to your channel. Sadly a lot of KZbin channels promote hate for clicks. Stay authentic and you’ll be in for a rollercoaster ride in the last 3 episodes!

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

@@ManchesterEagle Thank you, I appreciate that! I’m looking forward to the next few episodes, hope you enjoy them too 😁

[@ManchesterEagle]

Thanks Becky. I’ve directed some people. You should just know that there are a lot of Tolkien fans who do see this as a valid adaptation that properly takes account of Tolkien’s themes and respects his works. If you come to another conclusion that’s fine, but don’t feel like some of the aggressive comments on your channel are anything more than opinion. Anyway episode 6 will be intense!

[@samrushworth6076]

This episode was one of its best of the season, more things seem to be falling into place, love seeing the door of durin getting made

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

@@samrushworth6076 agreeeed

[@ChicagoDB]

It’s trash from start to finish…it’s not even coherent/consistent in its own fabricated story!

[@jukkasuominen5295]

Then why watch?

[@ChicagoDB]

@@jukkasuominen5295 - I’ve got no right to critique anything without watching it. That would be objectively unfair…

[@swbuza]

@@ChicagoDB But you didn't critique it. You just whined.

[@mizzlchieizzl]

these comments are trash, 3 year old dumpsterfires who don't like to read books and learn more when they see other ideas that they didn't get. Good luck when its your turn. Hope it goes better for you and you have good friends to get you through it.

[@FamilyGuyVids11]

this show is sooooooooooo crappy

[@mattcascade]

In my opinion, Rings of Power is a terrible show whether I view it as Lord of the Rings related or I don't, but good for you if you're able to enjoy it I suppose.

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

@@mattcascade That’s fair enough, I think the problem is when people who usually enjoy a show like that purposefully choose to hate it because it’s meant to be LOTR, rather than trying to let themselves enjoy it. But if you dislike it whether it’s LOTR related or not then that’s fine because it would be a terrible show for you either way 😂

[@gemgem-hl7ii]

​@@BeckyDoesBlogThe title has "Lord of the Rings" in it, so why is it a problem if people hate it because it's meant to be LOTR? I think it's fair to have that expectation.

[@swbuza]

@@gemgem-hl7ii The Lord of the Rings is not just the title of a book. It's the title of a person -- Sauron. He's in the show. It's about him. Ergo, it is about the lord of the rings. This show isn't a rehash of what Tolkien wrote, on purpose. It's designed to answer the questions of where was Sauron and what was he doing during the undocumented periods of the 2nd Age. It's a new story on purpose, but it is still *about* the lord of the rings. It doesn't have to be about the novel to still be about the same guy.

[@gemgem-hl7ii]

@@swbuza Your point does not invalidate my point. Some people can have that mindset, sure, but I'm saying that it's fair to expect a show with "The Lord of the Rings" in the title to be faithful to the existing canon. My question was how it would be a problem if it's a fair assumption

[@halneufmille]

In "fan fiction", there is "fan". They usually care about and respect the source material, as much as they can with their limited talent. Using a known intellectual property to lure fans in, but changing things with little regard to the original author's vision may be better characterized as "Corporate fiction".

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

If the showrunners and writers were actually fans of LOTR, it would’ve been a different show and a better representation. I’m wondering why since Amazon spent so much money, they didn’t think of how it would affect Tolkien’s legacy. I understand why the LOTR fans were disappointed

[@swbuza]

This is complete nonsense. The showrunners are huge fans of Tolkien, as is his grandson who approves every script.

[@rushy9895]

Got to look at everything with a cup of Pos-I-tiv-I-tea

[@PiscatorLager]

Too much of the budget went into Durin's facial hair, so none was left for poor Annatar's wig.

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

It’s a shame Annatar’s hair isn’t as luxurious

[@PiscatorLager]

@@BeckyDoesBlog Yeah, he even needed to make poor Mirdania uncomfortable by mentioning his former love-interest's hair.

[@renatonovis]

With all do respect, I admire and even envy your positivity, but one must question when positivity becomes a hinderance to actual critical viewing. I understand that you feel that hate watching a show would be a waste of your time, but ignoring the glaring issue of the show's disrespect for the source material, in my opinion, is also a waste of everyone's time, not only yours but the people working on this show, who are clearly not the best showrunners or witers out there, that being said I'd wish they'd improve their work and for that they recquire a fair dose of constructive criticism, perhaps even a bit of a harsher criticism wouldn't be unwarrented as long as it doesn't devolve into personal attacks or threats. Of course, I also believe in fairness, and as such one has to admit the good parts of the show as well, it's definetely visually impressive, and the actors are in general pretty good, with a special mention to the 3 main Dwarven characters that, personally, I feel are the best part of the show. Sadly, I think a lot of people share my rather bleak view of modern media and the state of the world in general, so lashing out against shows or movies like this is a bit of cathartic release from a lot of the internal struggles we've been going through. Like I said before, I envy someone who can look at the world with your positivity, I just hope we can understand each other despite our completely opposite views on these matters.

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

@@renatonovis Thank you for the fair and well thought-out comment. I’m wondering why the writers and showrunners took on the project of creating this show in the first place when they don’t have any understanding of LOTR, surely that job would’ve been better on someone who knows the lore and is also a fan to some level? I’m not the best person to give constructive criticism, but I’m sure they’ll have received that from someone, so we can only hope they’ll improve in the next season. Either way, when watching the first season, I surprised myself with actually enjoying it more than I expected I would, but I’m also aware that I’m separating it completely from LOTR, which no-one should have to do. I appreciate you articulating your point so clearly and I know I’m in the minority with my unwarranted optimism

[@mizzlchieizzl]

Boo. Stop mansplaining and overanalyzing. Someone should apply "actual critical" points to your ignorance of a lot of the text. You say the show has glaring disprespect for the source material, and you find someone who's clearly not dug in for decades and force them into it. It's despicable : ) Why not find people who know more and have discussions about it with them? Are you afraid to find actual textual evidence from someone who knows their stuff? Just skip the comment next time, or come debate someone who knows what they're talking about. I'll start, to be fair : ) This show has just as much ridiculousness towards the lore as any single one of the PJ movies. It also does somethings better than PJ. Music and visual effects are on par if not better. For source material, you have an abundance of texts, an appreciation and representation of the author's own ambiguous, unpublished stories. They're quite frankly treating the lore like feather dusting a michealangelo sculpture. Come at me, don't dunk new comers.

[@mizzlchieizzl]

@@BeckyDoesBlog Becky you're a really nice person, but these Bill Ferny types are going to keep throwing you in the tumbler. Like a lot of other youtubers, they think they can just say negative things. Ignore the comments. There is a world (a huge world) in Middle Earth just waiting to explore it. Glad you're here : )

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

@@mizzlchieizzl thank you for welcoming me to the middle earth gang! Reading LOTR is on my list to do before the end of the year. I’ve only recently been introduced to reading fantasy so haven’t got round to it quite yet. The only thing I can compare the series to is the PJ movies which I also enjoyed, but for different reasons. Either way, I’m enjoying my time watching RoP so far and I’m looking forward to the next episode😁

[@AerysIIFirstofhisname]

I feel like LOTR and ASOIAF are about to become the next Star Wars and get milked with constant new shows and films that are just garbage, I can’t get over the removal of Anarion for some disgraceful daughter, Pharazon just does not seem like the guy to do what what he will do in the future even if they make him more accurate in one episode.

[@chiesiucm]

this is a sadly short sighted video. We have no idea what the Faithful and Anarion are doing. Its just, you have to let yourself think, and ask questions that don't get answered.

[@swbuza]

Anarion hasn't been removed. He'll appear later in the show. In the 64 generations between Elros and Aragorn II, there are only about 5 wives mentioned and zero daughters. But clearly there were daughters and wives. Men didn't create their own descendants out of thin air. So having a daughter is not lore breaking even in the slightest.

[@chiesiucm]

@@swbuza well said. I'm sure eventually they'll realize.

[@AerysIIFirstofhisname]

@@swbuza I suppose but I have a severe lack of trust with Amazon the RoP.

[@chiesiucm]

It's quite an episode, innit!

[@deezdgbt]

It's not the greatest show but I enjoy it too. If they tried to follow the actual lore it would make for a terrible show, so I don't know why people hate it so much

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

Finally someone agrees with me!

[@ChicagoDB]

They still succeeded in making a terrible show!

[@tyranomu]

Way to bait haters and get some attention. This show is a dumpsterfire, and I love to watch it, whenever a new episode is out I make some popcorn, grab a soda bottle and allow myself to be taken away to the magic land of cRINGge of powers. It's very enjoyable.

[@mizzlchieizzl]

comments like this are a dumpster fire. Amazon's quite happy with their achievements and a lot of people enjoy it. Did you hoard TP during the pandemic btw? If not, thanks. That was a dumpsterfire. This one's just complicated. A lot of good there : )

[@raresstrugar]

I wanted to look at it as a stand alone too, but they put in the title Lord Of The Ring..... to profit on

[@swbuza]

It's literally about Sauron. What was his title again?

[@mizzlchieizzl]

It's quite interesting. They're exploring the lore, not giving you McLore though

[@raresstrugar]

@@swbuza lord of the, the rings rings of power

[@raresstrugar]

@@mizzlchieizzl I don't understand

[@CallumRushworth]

Slowest episode of the season so far

[@joshuabell5580]

I'm having great fun "hate" watching it, if anyone can enjoy it great. It's also giving me fantastic ideas for my own silly version of the story

[@wanderingseth]

I'm enjoying the show. It's not great but I still like being back in Middle Earth. It might never quite rise to the level of the sum of its own parts, but the relentless hatred is boring.

[@BeckyDoesBlog]

I completely agree with you!

[@swbuza]

It's not just boring. it's weak and duplicative. Not a one of them has an original thought.