Lore Review- FFXIV Dawntrail, Launch Trailer

[@imoney139]

First half: road to el dorado Second half: Warhammer 40k necrons

[@eternalsummer8409]

Road to war in heaven

[@Mrlaged]

I think they are going endwalker us again, first quarter to half is going to be the royalty stuff, the rest of it is going to be dealing with waking up solution 9

[@SubduedRadical]

F it, I'm here for that. The succession fight is kind of uninteresting to me, but if we go full on space invaders, I'm cool with that. That sounds like fun. :D

[@Beathemighty]

It could be a fake out like how the EW launch trailer had everyone thinking Our lord Zodiark was going to destroy everything.

[@Lyn685]

Wuk Lamat: "I'm gonna be King of the Pirates!" times three

[@moruemourue9692]

and Hokage !

[@justinbowman1342]

King of games!

[@39zack]

Dont forget super saiyan because she wana she wana she wana!

[@StrikerTVFang]

People thought I was crazy when I suggested the Golden City isn't a physical place... but a digital world created to keep a civilization safe. They never age, they never die... their souls just converted into a digital form.

[@Lyn685]

He might just be talking about the world of the ancients

[@lunatic447]

@@Lyn685 yeah could be , but also depends on the interpretation of dying if you include returning to the star on your own volition. I kinda get Omicron vibes, maybe these people are being seen as having immortal bodies because the outside world has only seen these "power ranger" or robots that are being used as physical interfaces.

[@pll3827]

Reminds me of how the Nier raids had you and your fellows getting digitized.

[@yanipheonu]

Thinking of Neomuna from Destiny

[@bigfoxki]

The gate thing actually looks like the gate thing in digital world of Ghost in the shell.

[@Puddingskin01]

"Who made this relic." Azem: _That's a secret for later_ WoL:*nods*

[@nebula8851]

I think Tradition vs Progress will be a big theme in Dawntrail. Also yeah, I'm totally calling the 12th Shard playing a major role. There's no chance every other Shard just allowed the Ascians to run rampant without a contingency of sorts.

[@BladRavenYey]

thats a good point, im sure the ascians have had to have faced trouble in other shards as well

[@JemuzuDatsWho]

Wondering if the Golden City isn't INSIDE the 12th Shard; that golden gateway we see being a portal to it perhaps

[@Fourtrooper]

Autarch is a greek word and I'd say with the emphasis on proper cultural representation for Dawntrail (the most obvious parallel being retiring New World for Tural) that it was just a term retired in place for one that fits the culture we're shown better. The explanation is probably even the same as the proper name of the continent, that being that the terms "New World" and "Autarch" were just terms that the cultures of the Three Great Continents used for ease of remembrance, use, and a lack of greater cultural knowledge for a society that was at most a subject of novelty for people who never interacted with it directly.

[@taylorgrimm9574]

I like this line of thought a lot. It fall right along with finding out the name of the planet instead of everyone just referring to it as the star

[@matoyashat]

@@taylorgrimm9574 they also called in Hydaelyn before, so they were kinda forced to change it imo. But I still hate that they chose to use “star” instead of just planet lol

[@25xxfrostxx]

The Hydaelark and Zodelyn arc is over but we still exist in that world with the characters introduced and the situations presented. If there are still ascians running around (I believe Deudalaphon, Halmarut, Pashtarot, and Altima) they are probably not idle. They would have been performing duties as assigned and then trying to find purpose after Emet-Selch, Elidibus, and Lahabrea suddenly stopped answering their voicemail. I actually hope she is and we can just integrate one or more of them into the world in a non adversarial role.

[@BladRavenYey]

exactly, we may be "moving on" but we are still in the same world with loose ends yet to tie up

[@ARC5]

"for now..." "we won't...." every WoL ever at this point. also may i point out that EVERY time we have gone looking for some "city of treasure" we have had something HORRIBLE happen to us. the one in SB? everyone starts falling down soulless. the one in EW? oh now hell is invading and hoping they die trying. and now we are on the hunt for the fabled "city of NVidia" and a new giant fuck off snake god is let loose.... I better get fucking paid and BIG TIME for this shit this time...

[@25xxfrostxx]

Oh, you will. 5000 gil and your choice of a level 11 piety, tenacity, or spell speed materia.

[@vindurza]

Don't forget the time in HW where we teamed up with sky pirates to find a city of treasure only to find literal demons. Only time it hasn't gone wrong is SB where we found the treasure and gave it to the poor.

[@ARC5]

@@vindurza naw like i said that was in 4.x and right after we give all the gold out people start dropping with their souls ripped out. something bad happens when we go looking for lost treasure. forgot a bout the sky pirates one tho.

[@chrisanderson6353]

I for one enjoy that Wuk Lamat seems naive or innocent. This is her own hero's journey, and we , as the WoL are here to assist her in that particular journey. Yes, it sounds like Naruto, and Bleach, however, I take it as something that specific to the culture and fiction of culture. Back to Wuk Lamat, perhaps, on this journey, she will introspect, perhaps that will be through a failure, that she learns a great deal from, that will cause her to reassess why she wishes to ascend the throne. Can't wait to see where this goes.

[@cinavik]

I miss them using the term "Autarch" because it has deep implications in inspiration from Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun, in which a two headed, long lived man named Typhon sat a throne and wished to claim the title of Autarch, he who rules himself. I won't spoil the book, but everything in the lore related to them (until recent changes) takes heavy inspiration from that story, which was very very cool. It also takes place in Central America and has Ascians, yes, literally spelled that way. Typhon's 2nd head was also shrouded like Galool Ja Ja's, and a Sun-based religion revolved around a historical figure called the Conciliator. The floating thing above Heritage Found too is reminiscent of a scene late in the story. High and low tech in conjunction. Past and future. I'm hype for Dawntrail. I hope they haven't fully divested of the Autarch motif because to rule oneself is the most difficult thing.

[@sunbeamseadream801]

Oh hell yeah I'm glad to see someone else picked up on this

[@csrjjsmp]

Probably why they changed it

[@Tom-Pendragon]

I think Wuk Lamat is super naive, just for them to give her a character arc during the expansion. Seen stuff like that happen several time in different media.

[@manaswin123]

Hope she is not carbon copy of Lyse

[@Tom-Pendragon]

@@manaswin123 Lyse problem was she was tone deaf and blind asking people to risk their life while she looked like a white savior complex character. I had no problem with lyse, but I see why some people do.

[@vaidenkelsier7757]

@@manaswin123 That's Commander Hext to you, heathen.

[@LittleMissLanna]

YES I've been waiting for your vid to pop up! Re: Wuk Lamat's excitedness -- Either they're playing into her 'shonen protag' trope energy, which is silly but we don't have a character like that, so I'm OK with it. Or we go in depth and she's just parroting back what she THINKS she wants? Or what she thinks she has to do? I feel like we got a glimpse at her in 6.55 being really unsure of herself, and this could just be her trying to psyche herself up. I prefer the latter. There was also a snippet of a quest reveled in the live letter when showing off a new feature (putting /emotes in the quest list when you need them) and the quest objective was to psyche her up. I feel like Wuk is realllly unsure and unsteady of herself, so her default IM GONNA BE THE HOKAGE might just be a result of that. But I could also be reading too much into it :D -- Also, I don't think she's going to be the Dawnservant, either! Even if we win, she might give it to her brother -- the Mamool Ja brother.

[@Ephelle]

Yeah I think you're right. She's trying to convince herself.

[@Juxha]

also was her confident in near the end of the vid more that she IS sure that she is going be come Dawn servant but there still a change that she IS going to give the title to someone else after whole ordeal. but who knows we know once dawntrail is released.

[@matoyashat]

I think so too. It's pretty evident in 6.55 when she's trying to play up this tough "I'm not afraid of anything, let's kill some monsters" persona, while she's hiding the fact her hand is shaking after the big bird comes to attack us. I mean I really HOPE that the latter is the case, but I haven't been disappointed by any recent characters, so I'm optimistic.

[@Pocchari]

Honestly I’m getting tired of people saying Wuk Lamat isn’t worthy because OBVIOUSLY SHE ISN’T WORTHY, it’s her story and she will develop as the story goes on. Immediately judging her and brushing her off for her immaturity is also ignoring the signs we’ve seen of her fear in the face of danger, her freezing up, her shaking hands-we’ve already been shown that there’s more to her than her brashness and silliness. We’re going to learn so much about her and help her grow on this journey together and I for one am looking forward to it. I want to see her grow, I want to learn about her determination, I want to understand her fear, and I want to help her overcome her trials. Whether that leads to the throne or not is really irrelevant, as she may even discover the throne isn’t for her.

[@syaojyn]

Excited for Wuk to become king of the pirates

[@RukasuInoru]

One thing about Wuk Lamat's "I'm gonna be hokage!" moment: Throughout 6.55 we got a few glimpses into Wuk's character as a whole. She passes off an aura of lightheartedness, boisterousness and confidence, but during a few quick moments, we also see something beneath that confidence. During our hunt, Wuk being shocked by the Giant Colibri and then after the fight, shaking while loudly proclaiming "I had barely limbered up!". After that, during our lunch, she boldly reaches for the spicy food, only to have to hold back her tears when she realizes the spice was too much for her to handle. These glimpses of her character might be hinting that, beneath the confident facade, she might be incredibly anxious and insecure of her capabilities. So if we take that into account, her repeating "I'm gonna be dawn servant!" over and over during this trailer might just be her gaslighting herself, trying to push down her own fears and insecurities. The good old "If I repeat it enough times, then maybe I can convince myself that I can actually do this".

[@matoyashat]

Exactly, I’m surprised a lot of people missed those obvious tells

[@Lyn685]

There might be a connection between the city of gold and Solution 9, but we can't be sure yet what that connection might be, so I'll hold my judgement

[@Kandei-Kain]

I subbed because you asked so nicely, so now I'm here for your thinkithoughts, can't wait to see the rest of the video :)

[@WilliamTheWatchful]

3:47 Hi Kryle's parents! 3:53 Bye Kryle's parents

[@SynodicScribe]

pfft! XD

[@KingDavidCreates]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who had that thought. It immediately seems like some sort of echo flash back and with how significant it is, those aren't just gonna be random potatoes in my opinion.

[@Sarantserel]

About the last line said by the "Enigmatic Maiden", it is completely different in French and Japanese. For french, she sais "the key to bring this project to fruition is finally in my grasp, and I will not fail, which a much more ominous and antagonistic tone.

[@SynodicScribe]

You're right, that's much different in tone. I wonder what's going on with the English translators.

[@matoyashat]

I saw someone mention they used a different piece of dialogue for the English trailer, but I haven’t seen the other versions so can’t confirm

[@DrakeWurrum]

I've known Wuk Lamat for probably 20 minutes, but if anything happens to her, everybody's getting gonna catching hands.

[@ChristinaI]

Do you want to hurt my new friend? Do you want to catch these hands?

[@IchibanCourtesan]

Solution Nine is shown on the map on the Dawntrail special site. It's in Northern Tural, whereas Tuliyollal is in Southern Tural. It might be the city of gold, but I don't think so.

[@kylesmith564]

What I find interesting about the Void questline that I don't think many realize, is that it probably wouldn't have raised to a world-ending threat unless we arrived and starting poking about. By Golbez's admission, it would've taken him much longer to enact his plan had we not come through with our bountiful aether and a portal to the other side. We took a big risk and actually endangered the Source by doing what we did, for a bit of adventure (initially at least, we of course had better reasons once we learned of azdaja's plight and the truth behind golbez/zero). Ultimately it ended well, providing good progress in Y'shtolas studies, it set up potential progress for the 13th to stabilize and opens up the potential to stabilize the remaining shards. But it makes me wonder if the WoL is going to become a bit of a force of nature that is as dangerous as they are helpful wherever they go. I think it'd be fun to have the WoL be a bit controversial, that they keep sticking their finger in pies it doesn't belong and it's causing problems, making us a bit more morally grey than before.

[@closotezuka]

god, please none of this “morally gray” stuff. it just feels horrible, and after wow tried it i dont think it can be executed well in an mmo story at all, let alone a final fantasy game. we are the Warrior of Light, literally the most stereotypical “chosen one”, let us just be the hero who conquers and triumphs over evil.

[@kaitohiroyuki122]

​@closotezuka Thing is though is that our actions SHOULD have consequences. Yes we are heroes and yes we do vanquish evil buuuuut we also are at the end of the day, an adventurer. Even Zenos kinda saw through that and understood that from the outside we involve ourselves in things that have nothing to do with us and fight beings just FOR FUN. Like we are the WoL. We play xiv FOR FUN. We fight gods and monsters and go up against armies FOR FUN. That's actually terrifying and I think addressing that in-game isn't a stretch. Also WoW is nothing like XIV storywise. For one the WoL is actually a character unlike the player character in WoW

[@closotezuka]

@@kaitohiroyuki122 i suppose if they played it at that sort of angle itd be cool, i just dont want our player character to burn down a hospital for the greater good lol

[@kaitohiroyuki122]

@@closotezuka I don't think we'd do something like that anyway. THAT is just out of character.

[@kylesmith564]

@@closotezuka I know morally grey got a bad wrap from Wow, but wow wasnt even morally grey at that point. By your example it was just hospital burning and trying to say "its for the greater good!" after the fact. I think we've already seen the first of this as per our void excursion. We hastened Golbez's plan and did make the Void threat in the background go from passive and slowburning, to immediate and potentially ending the source. Who's to say we aren't going to be unhousing horrors beyond comprehension in the new world, yknow? The new worlds been at peace for decades, and suddenly all that shit in the trailer is happening. You cant tell me that its not going to be at least partially our fault for unleashing all that. Plus to make it good, it shouldn't just focus on death tolls, but the damage culturally, and emotionally to the local, summoning and slaying their local deities and legends and such. Ruminating on if there could've been a better way rather than going in guns blazing, unga bunga style. The WoL is sort of a force of nature now sorta aimless, just going where the wind blows. I hope we don't remain perfect lawful good forever, but I don't wanna be any sort of direct evil of course.

[@jt1973]

That ending shot in EW of them and the party walking away from each other was the passing of the torch. They wont completely betray that. It seems more likely that we will get lore that is based on the rammifications of the ascians former plots, not that we will see them as villains/grey figures literally again. That is also why the first line of the trailer is saying that we're not saving the world again. It's not the kind of story they want to tell right now, and for good reason. Not that there wont be big implications for the world after what happens in DT, but... yeah.

[@JamiBoyXD]

I know this video was before dawntrail but they explained what Autarch means... as soon as it was mentioned in the MSQ I remembered about this video! you will 100% notice! good to know they did not forget that term and clarified the difference between Autarch and Dawnservart

[@DefenderX]

The enigmatic maiden is Alexandrian. She bears the emblem of Alexandria on her dress in the character bios image. She's wearing something reminiscent of Garnet's wedding gloves and head accessories.

[@Tom-Pendragon]

The city of gold is probably the last zone of the game.

[@DeusGamez]

more like last dungeon probably, solution 9 appears to be the final city hub we encounter

[@arphayas2826]

I am pretty sure Solution 9 is the City of Gold.

[@S3rp3rior]

Considering that this expansion is based on Latin America, anime is HUGE in those areas and in the Latino/e community. Considering that they hired consultants of that background and voice acting of people from that background its no wonder that Wuk Lamat sounds like that. Both in english and in japanese. Plus her being a reflection of Alphinaud, with him being of her team, seems very on purpose for her development as a character. Dawn Servant or otherwise. This expansion is making so much of the Latino/e community happy to be seen. Can't wait to see what adventures we get to go on.

[@astrealbrizbee9815]

Now that it looks like the Golden City might be a digital realm, it makes me wonder if that's what happened to a version of Vana'diel (In Final Fantasy XI, its revealed that Vana'diel has lost thousands of battles that lead to the worlds doom in some way, so XI's world gets saved by Time Mage stuff a lot)

[@vindurza]

The Lalafell's fleeing the city and purple color make me wonder if this new civilization is somehow connected to Mach? Also a ton of us knew section 9 was the city of gold caused there's actually an extremely rare variation of gold that's purple.

[@REDtheBEAST]

Calling it now that Solution 9 is housing remnants of the of the 12th shard(aspect of lightning) And that glass goblet(The key) is a perfected spirit vessel and or lets say a "capacitor" for a greater soul vessel.

[@PenguinSage]

For now before more information comes in about the Autarch and Dawnservent I'll believe in my headcannon. Autarch is the name of the Mamool Ja leader, while the Dawnservent leads the country of Tuliyollal. At the moment Galool Ja Ja is both, but the one who rises to the throne may not be.

[@seboulol]

The big grunty voice just describe the Ancient society but, hey, maybe it's just a coincidence! Concerning the City of Gold, I highly doubt it's Solution 9. If the Golden City is supposed to be a big thing, there is no chance they revealed it monthes ago. Maybe it will be the final zone of the expansion. Interestingly, the mysterious woman say someting completely different in the french version and almost seems threatening: "The key to completing this project is in my possession, and I will not fail." I don't know about the other languages.

[@DeusGamez]

the allagans tho lived similarly to the ancients they increased their lifespans tenfold thru usage of their technology an they lived pretty carefree for the most part oblivious to the primals or disdain of the people they conquered and i guess you could say their cloning is a form of immortality in of itself as it meant they could be reborn in the same vessel they had prior to facing death. their advanced ways of life could be perceived as god like to primitive and ancient societies as well because they tamed beasts, captured them , and also made chimera's out of their flesh as well as tamed and captured beings which people referred to as their "gods" so maybe to them they took that as a sign that the allagans were like unto gods because they could command and tame them.

[@seboulol]

The Allagan Empire had 3 periods: the rising made of conquests, the slow decline after Xande's death and a second period of war after his resurrection, quite far from a civilisation "free from hardship and conflict". Don't forget Allag was built by Emet-Selch only to sow chaos and destruction. And as far as we know, the Allagans have never set foot on the New World. I can't deny some visual similarities between the two technologies but I don't think it's Allag all over again.

[@DeusGamez]

@@seboulol i was more referring to the general populace of allagans not so much their royals or militant bodies, essentially most living under the rule of allag prospered an wanted for nothing essentially an because of their advancements could live centuries if not longer if they had wanted to (but of course the ascians got mad at them for imprisoning their creations and thus halting future calamities as well as trying to meddle with Zodiark on the moon so they let it collapse only going back for it to salvage from its wreckage for means to build an entire different nation conquering war machine via Garlemald.) and believe me lol i really hope and want this to not be another BS conflict that was the result of allagan nonesense but these writers don't have the best track record when it comes to creating new and interesting ideas for why things happen outside of either ascian meddling or allagans etc

[@Zoten001]

Wuk Lamat is a Shonen protag confirmed. lol

[@Tom-Pendragon]

Been waiting for your take.

[@kuronaialtani]

I was already leaning into the camp that Erenville has a right to the throne as well, but now with him being our expansion narrator it looks like, I'm putting my bets on it for real

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

Around 6:56 Like a friend said to me recently, the final days weren't final enough

[@SynodicScribe]

I can understand that sentiment.

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

Around 8:36 So i play FF XIV different to the majority of the people, i have the audio set in Japanese, as such i also watch the trailers in English and Japanese, i won't get into all the whys i think more people looking into the lore should pays more attention to it, but i will point this out. In the Japanese version, she mentions being the King/Ruler/Dawn Servent twice, the first time here, and at the end, but even at the end, it's on the context of peace, on her second line, in the japanese version she says something more regarding peace, having in mind the presentation of the scene, i believe is question how the actions the 2 headed Mamool Ja could destroy peace, as she says it in a very aggresive and antagonistic voice, while the answer dismiss what was said to him

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

Around 19:15 The problem with that, it's the presentation in VIII it was more peaceful and with very few military uses. This, especially with the interior we saw previously, scream more Xeno franchise, at less aesthetically inspire.

[@TKBallad]

The thing in the Goblet resembles structures in Mare Lamentorum

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

Around 11:39 Retcon, probably for us, because in Japanese, having in mind how simple they tend to be, they would have use the word for king or ruler, which is the word use in the Japanese trailer.

[@ayrielbranford]

Wuk Lamat is like an innocent shonen character at the start of the manga, that later in the story gets a wake up call and changes completely. Im actually excited of how will that happen.

[@dannielleblaze3280]

This is a bit obscure, but with the 'city of gold' stuff I can't help but think of it. In the 80s there was a cartoon called The Mysterious Cities of Gold. One main character named Tao had a golden goblet supposedly from the last City of Gold. In the final episode, it turned out the goblet was from the City of Gold, and was a VERY important mcguffin. It was basically a control rod for the power source in the city. I dunno, they 'key' with its goblet shape and the City of Gold connection just made me think of it.

[@NemesisTWarlock]

As a fan of both you and Rath, I'm glad my fave Solo boy and my equal-between-you-Eozean-archives-and-Cleretic-cause-I-can't-possibly-choose are working together :P

[@soulreapercaptain11]

Interesting coming back to this video after running through Dawntrail MSQ. And to avoid spoilers, that's all I'll say on the matter.

[@furionfelheart8103]

the only reason were going to the city of gold is because of an ancient, it wouldn't surprise me if emit hinted at us to go there specifically to see her.

[@4mb127]

Karellians.

[@Frankthetank302]

Is there 4 different groups going for the title of dawnservant?

[@YvaiatheDemon]

About the fallout from the Final Days: It was mentioned in the patches but more like a side information when Thancred appeared like "Oh yeah I have my hands full because now that we dont have a mutual threat we can have war with each other again lol" or smaller side stories in the main story like the orphans...but the game makes it very clear that those problems arent ours to deal with - we saved the world how much more do we have to help? I think they have done it in a good way otherwise WoL would have to be in "I am responsible for the world" 24/7. I do hope they show more fallout in a subtle way like we have so far (and probably none in the new world cus the finals days didnt reach there afaik). Also I agree with you when it comes to Wuk Lamat - I find her funny but a leader? Hell no, she is way to immature - she reminds me a lot of Lyse, so I expect the same character growth but I do not believe she will become Dawnservant my bet is on Zoraal Ja, the blue Mamool Ja you see in the trailer. My theory on the people of solution 9: as we know the Karellians are a dead nation we met in ultima thule...I do wonder if something of their technology made its way to our planet similar to Omega or Midgardsommr thus helping the people from the new world back then to avoid a certain calamity (at least thats what it looks like in the trailer as I think the girl at the end had to make sacrifices to save her people by creating and entering Solution 9) or the technology just looks the same by accident xD Also I dont think we will see Ascians this Expansion simply cus it was made very clear that we are DONE with that era - most Ascians were killed off screen and if I remember correctly last we have seen Pashtarot he was a blond male hyur (unless they retcon that one too lol)

[@stitches1110]

6:55 as for the final days effects seemingly being glossed over, i actually don’t agree. Yes, it was not the big focus but the two most effected areas, garlemald and thavnair are very much addressed in the msq and in tataru’s grand endeavor, hell the twins joining us in Dawntrail was very specifics said to be for the purpose of establishing trade relations for Garlemald. I can understand that given the final days is such a massive event that one might think more focus should be given to the repair efforts but to say that it’s not addressed is a bit disingenuous.

[@syaojyn]

Wonder if the covered head on the current dawn servant is because that head/person has died?

[@garamdapur2093]

in the dawntrail trailer they put a heavy emphasis on "TIME", are we going to time travel? the girl in this launch trailer said "With your strength, could you have held fast to that which is dear without sacrifice?" a what if scenario? 20:16 looks like a time gate 20:28 what if this relic which look like a goblet was an hourglass? wow my mind is blown with the hype

[@andialabisa6167]

Hrothgar chick ---> Heroine in the making 2 Head guy (not the king) ---> Tyrant Miqote with the glasses ---> Bad Guy in the making Dawn Serpent ---> False god of the indigo guys which the king serves. Just another Primal Futuristic People ---> the real danger. Their actions will pull the Warrior of light into this mess and he will have to do the dirty work again, so no Vacation for him - OBVIOUSLY i spare you the details.

[@Lyn685]

Yeah, that mysterious girl is one of the remaining sundered Ascians 1000%. My guess is Altima. (Who I believe wasn't truly killed by Gaius) I'm so convinced of it, that I'm gonna be kinda disappointed if it doesn't turn out to be true, not gonna lie. If it does turn out to be true, I truly hope she won't be just another baddie Ascian like Lahabrea or Emet-Selch

[@DeusGamez]

alima is still alive this was already stated by the developers who were asked about the masks gaius had on his belt they said that the overlords were not killed by gaius which is very weird as well because Gaius describes exactly how we killed ascians back in the empty when returning alphinaud's empty body to us he said "drag each and every one into the light and then put them to the sword." so basically paraphrasing a "blade of light" which is what we used on nabrialis but maybe gaius' just misinterpreted what his spy within mor dhona had meant an what he really used was just garlean technology to kill their host bodies instead of their actual souls.

[@jrtime228]

And Scribe is first in the chute after spending 4 hours transcribing PLL notes! Whatcha thinking about them saying specifically that Viper history will be included in the job questline?

[@SynodicScribe]

I'd be disappointed if they didn't include the history honestly. haha

[@ironbadger8985]

Big FFXI vibes from the music.

[@DeusGamez]

wouldn't be possible for the mystery girl to be the seat of Pashtarot because we've already seen this ascian before not to mention seen him hoodless and maskless in ARR's plotline he appears alongside the seat holder of Altima and yes i said "he" because the voice over for Pashtarot is masculine and so is his appearance/stature as shown in the self same cutscene he appears as a blonde hyuran male. but there is the chance though this girl could be either Altima or Deudaliphon potentially with Altima being confirmed to be female with blue colored hair in the self same cutscene as Pashtarot.

[@inazumatan7050]

I think the Solution Niners are Ancients who digitized themselves to avoid the Final Days; once you cross over through the golden portal, you lose lose your physical body but become immortalized as data. Enigmatic Maiden being Pashtarot would explain why Emet was keeping tabs on her but he likely rejected her plan because it was worse than getting Sundered. Now they're looking to re-take the world once the Final Days have been averted. They look normal inside the data world but they can only interact with the physical world while inhabiting those purple tron robots.

[@KingDavidCreates]

This seems weird but Solution 9 and/or the vault thing gives me big Ronkan Vibes. Lots of angles and gold coloring at bits, Which makes me wonder if it's from another Shard. I also don't believe Solution 9 was always just there in the New World sticking out of the landscape like a sore thumb. I believe that relic or key triggers something causing Solution 9 and potentially the tech savy invasion folks to emerge and appear. Else why would we need to discover it, surely someone would easily have been able to chart a map straight to it even if they couldn't enter it?

[@SynodicScribe]

I can see that.

[@Beathemighty]

Can we just talk about the music that plays after 3:10? I need that orch yesterday.

[@4mb127]

The "I'm gonna be the pirate king!" trope is so common because it works, and I don't really mind it. *shrug*

[@Druidlover]

Getting Lyse in SB vibes from Wuk. Hopefully she starts growing quickly and doesn't just get angry and clench her fist when people won't just support her for no reason when she claims she's gonna be the Dawnservant.

[@The_Yukki]

Now that you say it, yea it does kinda seem that way... Ngl, Zero being worse copy of Nero and now Wuk being Lyse...

[@davidericcio5378]

I actually think (and hope) that the "mysterious maiden" or the city of gold and these spaceships are tied with the High Seraph/Black Auracite/extraterrestrial beings mentioned in Ivalice and Pandemonium... Tho, it would be very hard for the developer to make both raids mandatory for players

[@SuperSnivMatt]

I’m excited for DT because I think the politics could be hella interesting. And I genuinely love Wuk Lamat. We have a good handful of tropes so that type of shonen-esc, stepping into a role for the greater good but unsure if the consequences sorta thing is fresh for the cast. Also, her voice actor is amazing and talented, and I love her performance in 6.55. I do agree that having her say the same things with different flavors in the trailer is eh, but the lines likely will be spread out over the entire MSQ rather than 4 minutes of trailers

[@kampfh7150]

Solution Nine being the City of Gold or atleast related to is pretty overt. It's either a bait'n'switch, or they're playing to a narrative trope, both of which are fine, imo. Remember, clean narrative slate. They have to build it up with *something*. Might even have to be a *metaphorical* location?

[@alanrendon9302]

the crystal goblet/key thingy looks like one of the spiraling skyscrapers in amaurot

[@TheZman289]

I have a theory on what the Golden city is. It's a theory of mine with very loose threads and I wouldn't be surprised if its debunked by whatever details I might have missed playing through the game. I have a sinking suspicion that the Golden City is a large chunk collection of Amaurot. The real Amaruot and below are my flimsy reasons why I believe so. First. In the tempest we see physical pieces of the actual city buried beneath the sands and stones of the zone sunken underneath the ocean before we arrive via Bismark's help. Later we learn from what I understand that Anamnesis Anyder is a -physical- ruin of the old city and not a part of Emet-selch's Aetherical imitation. Second. Friends and I have theorized the possibility of more pieces of the ruins could be seen in the other shards and I also remembered that the geography between the shards are supposedly similar if we're to compare the 1st and the Source. We find the pieces of Amaurot somewhere south of Kholusia which is believed to be similar to La Noscea. South to more South west of La Noscea is the New World or at least little bits of the land shrouded by clouds on the new world map we were given at the end of the MSQ and if the Golden city is inferred to be somewhere in their lands... I felt there was some connection if not one of the thinnest of straws so far. Third and probably the tiniest and most thinnest of the straws I could draw here, when we battle Elidibus for the 4th time in Pandaemonium, the arena battle in clearly looks to be the meeting room for the Convocation. Maybe the color choice is most likely for the theme of the fight, Elidibus using Light and Dark magic... but couldn't help but notice the entire surroundings being very bright, shiny and gold. Also if you look outside the windows of said arena, no surprise that it takes place within the city of Amaurot with the tiniest glimpse of it in its hayday. Looking at the golden details and other decorations within the room had me thinking there was a chance the city was much more vibrant and golden accents to it. Lastly, one could say the Amaurot in the tempest didn't appear very vibrant or shiny when we went to visit it but.. I mean it -is- deep under the ocean. Also when entering some of the buildings in the city or the two Duties involved in it, they had plenty of golden designs in their structure of their rooms and hallways. As to WHY the Golden City would be a big chunk of Amarout? no idea... but I think there's still much to learn from the ancients and there are still some Ascians out there as was just mentioned. Who knows, a collection of ruins still pretty intact like the Anyder, perhaps a group of people or multiple groups of people over the years since the sundering could have used/repurposed it for their own needs. Just a dumb theory.

[@MuseViews]

Not dumb at all. This was an exciting read. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 🧠

[@Dillon0_o]

"For now" " we won't" lol my exact thoughts 😂

[@Shizukanexen]

I'm thinking that the Golden city is Ronkan related and that it is Solution 9. The mob at 2:50 (in the trailer, not this video) is a very similar model to Forgiven Extortion, a sin eater, and it looks like it's surrounded by the same orange/purple tech stuff, which it reminiscence of Ronka too. So I think it IS something more.

[@Nekorook]

I’m betting the city of gold is the Allagans. Like a last bastion hidden from the world.

[@brycemoose7026]

I think the guy with the glasses should win the throne he seems like he knows what he's doing

[@DeusGamez]

technology can certainly add as a benefit to help society grow but just as equally it can cause too much dependency to the point people can't live without or the tech becomes misued as weapons of war and destruction. Cid Garland already taught us the differences between having technology that enriches vs tech used for ill gains and what with solution 9 being all about heavy reliance of tech an its being used to harm the people that Koana wants to protect i think it will greatly impact his view on what he said an make him reconsider how best to introduce technology to his primitive and traditional people

[@Zoeila]

Without sacrifice. The first thing that comes to mind is zodiark. Shes totally an ascian

[@Kodiie]

Every character needs a starting point so I don’t mind how obnoxious Wuk Lamat is. Especially considering she has a lot of character flaws. She is arrogant, cowardly and a braggart who gets in over her head and needs the help of friends like Erenville. Erenville seems to be exhausted being around her which definitely is some insight into her personality flaws and is potentially for future tension in the story.

[@maallos334mi8]

I believe it's going to be an older prediction you made, where people trying to survive their shard merging with the source tried to escape it. The golden gate looks Allegan made, with it's rough look with lines of light, but invader's tech is an entirely different design. So is their armor and heavy accent with purple. It reminds me of lightning crystals (like you talked about in your older video). They also emerge from a giant ball of energy, so it's either a delayed invasion, with time dilation between the shard, a coincidence for similar reasons, or the City of Gold was the key to activate the gate. It could also be my crackpot theory, where they're actually from the same timeline as Graha originally, where the 8th calamaty happened, and black rose was released. They could be seeing the prosperity of our timeline and decided to invade (ala Terra v Gaia from 9(?) I believe). Though there is something I keep coming back to in my head: If they're willing to show us this much, what are they keeping close to their chest?

[@shaamu2717]

And there's also houses from Alexandria in Heritage Found and Alexandria Castle on the right of Eliminator What a blend. Maybe... dunno, Heritage Found would be literally "heritage" from other final fantasies and we will see some "villages" from other entries as "fanservice nods" or "simulations", well that's absurdly game theory from me. Anyway, i feel Heritage Found itself would be also very interesting location, it have a feeling of a testing ground of sort

[@BladRavenYey]

which entry is Alexandria from?

[@FlameWish]

​@@BladRavenYey9!

[@JanusZeal11]

War path? No. Lore path? Yes.

[@user-ob4kn3rp3j]

Solution 9 is made by the surviving Ascians. The name even implies it. Their "Solution" and the "9" from all the calamities. Even if the 8th one is an alternate timeline. Also who is tired of Ascians? I love them.

[@RaysofLight98]

Considering how important Amaurot is to our characters story, and the story of the world, it would be weird to just act like the topic is done and dusted… Their efforts to merge your oldest self (Azem) and your current life are pretty interesting, too. “Yes please tell me more about this past life and why I wasn’t around for the one significant event that changed my life forever.”

[@bigfoxki]

If you look at the background of P11, the Amaurot outside the window is gold and shiny.

[@noppornwongrassamee8941]

IIRC, the devs said Solution 9 is going to be our secondary player hub like Mod Dhona, Idyllshire, Rhalgr's Reach, Eulmore, and Radz-at-Han were. Aka, the hub where Rowena sets up a branch of the House of Splendors (aka, the Tome shop).

[@plainsalt]

@@bigfoxki Probably because it was daytime and not under the sea. Amarout's style is art deco which is known for geometric golden details so it's not surprising. some writers go for art deco when trying to show a "golden era" of the past.

[@ChristinaI]

I can't help but wonder if Wuk will wind up with a story arc similar to Lys. They share a few key characteristics, they each feel they have something to prove, something to avenge, but also immaturity and perhaps impulsivity? To be frank, I wasn't mesmerized by Lys.

[@stsars13]

"It seems troupey" he says playing ffxiv My guy doesnt even know the game he's a loremaster for LMAO

[@KenjiShiratsuki]

I'm firmly in the camp of "I'm done with the ancient world for a bit, let's explore the other time periods and civs between The Unsundered World and now please?" Maybe letting the Ascians rest a bit will give them a chance to be fresh and new and exciting when we see them again. I'd personally like to see some of them come back as evil and some as good, or even do a heel-face turn like Nero did and HELP US. Their god is dead for good, so is his opposite. The Final Days are over for good. The whole reason they made Zodiark is gone. I get that some of them would be like "now we can return the world to the way it was before and we won't suffer the same catastrophe!" while others could counter with "this world is theirs now, their strength is clearly different but superior to our own, there's no point in returning to the past."

[@JL-GHK]

2 heads, 2 strong conflicting personalities. I suppose 1 needs to be the dominant head to navigate life properly. The 2nd head would either have a certain specialty, or used in combat.

[@LensMusicBox]

"Are you going to be hokage too?" Came out of nowhere and took me out!💀💀💀

[@sam15782008]

I don't believe Solution 9 is the city of gold, otherwise, why show Solution 9 so freely before release. I think that the vault leads to the golden city and the goblet is the key to opening it. I still believe that Golden City is "Terra" somehow.

[@rfygband]

Yeah I'm personally feeling similar. Could be completely wrong but the way it was portrayed in the trailer felt more like Solution 9 is at least something like the barrier to keep other people out of the city of gold and the gate that you see in the trailer might be entrance. Maybe it's hidden somewhere in the city so people aren't supposed to find it. I just don't feel like Solution 9 is it, but who knows.

[@nebula8851]

Yeah, we have both towns and 5 zones, but the 6th zone is a complete mystery.

[@GimmeTOKYO]

Seeing the trailer, I’m getting even more HELLLLLLLA Seekers of Adoulin vibes for this expac. The golden area reminds me of Ra’Kaznar so much.

[@GavinAstraWolf]

Me watching this post Dawntrail like "hmmm"

[@elecrom_9757]

It's always astounding to me how English is the Version that diverges from all the others. Fom what I gathered over the 9 years I played this game, German and French are generally faithful translations of the Japanese script while English is it's own thing. Basically every sentence in the English version of this Trailer is different in German (I don't speak Japanese or French) and the last sentence spoken by the unknown girl is the worst offender because it is a whole different sentence that doesn't even mean anything close to what she says in the English trailer.

[@SynodicScribe]

That is strange. Maybe I should make a video about when the english has diverted from the source some day.

[@DarthSanguine]

2:48 That title may have just been what the Mamool Ja's ruler was called before Tural was unified. 4:45 That music there is from the opera scene in FF6. 12:58 The other head will speak as well. Yoshi-P said in the live letter that each head has a different voice actor, and that this is also the case for the other two-headed Mamool Ja. 19:59 Phrasing! XD 21:40 There are 5. Everyone always forgets that Emmerololth appears in the MSQ after they're supposed to have died.

[@SynodicScribe]

Nah Emmerololth was confirmed dead. I know, it's weird. Just another one of FFXIV's continuity errors honestly. The FFXIV writers aren't perfect. haha

[@kfavorite9447]

In regards to the whole Autarch VS Dawn Servant it could be as simple as only a 2-headed Mamool Ja can have the Autarch title, but whoever rules the region is the Dawn Servant, and with the small view of the possible successor line up we get in this it is very much *not* all 2-headed Mamool Ja 2 heads = Autarch anyone else = Dawn Servant

[@raulinhentchel1237]

My hope is that the circle gate is the PATHWAY to the city of gold. Maybe it's a time machine or an alternate reality doorway, but Solution 9 is the gateway, because giving away Solution 9 as the city of gold feels way too easy and I hope they wouldn't do that.

[@YukitoKunNeptune]

is that Altana?

[@giannandreaferrara9680]

I really don't understand when people say they had enough of ancients and ascians. I want more, actually XD The idea that the enigmatic maiden is an ancient is so thrilling for me. What if she's an actual unsundered like the other 3? Why didn't she showed up so far? Does she know more about Azem whereabouts(Will we ever learn more about him/her)? Also. I would like to point that in the trailers with other languages, the girl's speech is much more sinister, she's saying something like: "The Key to complete my project is finally in my possession." (french version) and "Now, those who will be protected will see my plan come to fruition" (german). Could be wrong on the exact wording (especially for german), but....again...the english localization often takes too many liberties.

[@nanapyon2542]

This. Idk why the english localization team takes so many liberties in their translation when all the other languages are closer to the japanese script...

[@OShinn]

Jp script also have something along the line of a plan also, tho i still too inexperienced in Japanese language; ;

[@giannandreaferrara9680]

@@nanapyon2542 Yep. I've been kinda alone in this battle for years, but I honestely dislike Koji's work for the localization. That guy is great, funny and all...but I don't really like his approach to localization. Localization should be about adapting the content so that it makes sense in a culturally different context (the famous "onigiri" in pokemon localized with "donuts"). The english loc team is simply changin words to make things sound more mystical or mysterious with the effect that german and french players usually get better information more faithfull to the original.

[@hikaru0]

​​@@giannandreaferrara9680koji isn't main localizer anymore, this is Kate's take now. Koji liked to shift translations around to add jokes in, but Kate has been taking complete liberty with the translations for the last two expansions.

[@liftea7304]

I hope they use Alphinaud for Wuk's character progression. Game has already shown that she's super insecure and she can learn a lot from Alphinaud after all of his past failures in ARR. I also expect a lot of shonen tropes in Dawntrail considering that Wuk feels a lot like Luffy or Naruto. It's also funny how Wuk has already more personality and character development than Y'shtola💀. I personally believe that the story ends in a way where she and her siblings realize that none of them is fitting for the title of Dawnservant and that they have to work together. Considering that Dawntrails theme is diversity I think it's fitting. I just hope it's not too close to ARR which had similar themes. I can't wait to see the S9 stuff btw. I hope the game goes full Xenoblade with this part.

[@syaojyn]

The enigmatic maiden's voice reminds me of alisae or ryne

[@mikechua9560]

"Synodic: This Gulool Ja that you should know my friends ..." Me, an old FF11 player: ">_> .... oh I know him too well "

[@bigfoxki]

S9 is probably the only ark activated in time during a calamity back then. The calamity was probably work of those robots when people toying with AI.

[@althyk]

I know Titania is the king. Bring the fairy to the source!

[@melphina2720]

welcome mat would not make a good leader , I think the green haired kat would make a good one

[@shimasclan]

I've honestly been against Wuk Lamat claiming the throne since we met her. She may be a good ruler some day, but she's not ready for it now. I kind of hope her character arch has her understabding this and after defeating antagonist brother, she surrenders her claim to one of the others. Maybe catboi that i'm assuming is the one hiring Thancred and Urianger. Cant say who for sure till we meet all of them.

[@0ddys753]

Something I find really curious, is the difference in voiceline of the mysterious girl between the english and german version of the trailer. Its not like just diffrent ways to say the same thing but completly different meanings. The german Version roughly translated goes something like this "Now my plans finally come to fruition. Since I hold the keys in my hands." Would be intressting to know how this scene plays out in the japanese and french versions. If it just the german version that is weird or if the englisch version leaves something out intentionally.

[@SynodicScribe]

That's very different! I'm really curious what other changes there were now!

[@cherryindil8869]

in japanesse sounds the same like in german :0 I don't know french though.

[@cynmila08]

Finally someone else getting Esthar vibes.

[@butiliketacos]

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