BattleStar Galactica Lore : First Cylon War (Deadlock)

[@Revz8bit]

It's a shame that Caprica was so slow that people lost interest. The season 2 preview looked awesome and probably would have answered many questions

[@WarringPacifist]

Unfortunately, some stories are best left untold, given the oft-times HARSH realities of this world (Nielsen, I hope you're reading this!). That goes for EVERY science fiction media franchise, including BSG. Of those untold stories, they will have to be left to anyone's/everyone's own imaginations. That's what the other, non-commercial media, such as fanfiction, fan movies, and fan-made video games, are for...to answer questions the TV shows/movies will NOT EVEN touch, much less, answer. So, let's just be thankful for, and content with, whatever we already have today -- even if it's not necessarily to the satisfaction of the "bottomless pits" of our curiosity, when it comes to BSG, or *any other* mainstream SF franchise, for that matter. After all, "something is better than nothing at all"! PEACE. ☮

[@scandor8599]

I got the impression that game represents a turning point in the war. Before the game, although the war had been going on for an indeterminate length of time (I'd say years but less than a decade at a guess) that the tempo and scale of operations was still quite small. I get the impression that before the game, Colonial Fleet was more like a NATO or UN force, small in resources and scale, and that planetary defence forces were still handling the bulk of the fighting, but in a purely defensive, piecemeal, uncoordinated manner, and that Colonial Fleet was the only force actually trying to "win" the war. As a side note, I feel that this informs the design and value of the Jupiter Class - it's designed to operate as the centrepiece of a battlegroup of smaller ships as a force multiplier, which would fit given that we see in the game that most defence forces are made up of a large number of smaller craft. The story arc of the game takes you from this tiny multinational taskforce to probably being the biggest single chunk of military force in the twelve colonies (Depending how much you build up before the end of the game). After the game's ending, you've established Colonial Fleet's bona fides as the only organisation that can realistically fight the Cylons, which leads to what we see in Blood and Chrome and later the full series, where Colonial Fleet is this huge, centralised force that, judging by what we see of the Cylon Navy in The Plan, the Cylons didn't have a hope in hell of beating in a general fleet engagement.

[@TerranceChilds-ui8nh]

I really like this video it is very informative

[@ChadZLumenarcus]

Please make sure your voice is louder than the music. But other than that, this was solid.

[@Lord_Shadowz]

Lore Reloaded says we need to get new computers instead of fixing his video.

[@dougfoust117]

I don't think that is the best description of the articles and the distribution of Jupiter's. The poor colonies would be well within their rights to build a Jupiter class, articles be damned. They just didn't have the capacity to do so. Signing the treaty was the only way they would ever get a ship that powerful. Would you hand over a wmd, that you built, to a historic enemy, without some kind of promise they won't use it against you?

[@JeanLucCaptain]

I agree. Even the cylons were invented on caprica so why Should anybody else trust them especially because they are shown be the elitist pricks of the colonies.

[@DanielDavis1973]

I don't know if you've watched it but Blood & Chrome at least provides a small snapshot of the first cylon war.

[@kencohagen4967]

We need a prequel series. One was pitched to SyFy, but they turned it down. Too bad! Loyal fans would have killed to see very last episode. Even thought many of us would use our DVRs to record and watch each episode when our schedules permitted, and we would most likely fast forward past the commercials, we still would watch the ones that caught our eye for items or brands we were interested in. In a way, that would give advertisers a better idea how to write their commercials and which products were their biggest competition! The whole thing seems like a win win to me! So, SyFy, if you're smart enough to check the opinions posted on videos like this and forums for fans,.... get busy reading these comments and put together a prequel that would do BSG proud!

[@maxmustermann1455]

Blood & Chrome was quite good for a web series. Too bad it wasn't turned into an actual TV show. Instead we got bloody caprica.

[@CultureClashh]

Keep bringing the content my friend!:)

[@LoreReloaded]

Thanks, I appreciate your support.. Our epic collab will be soon!

[@Rimasta1]

Great job on this! 👍

[@LoreReloaded]

Glad you enjoyed...more to come :)

[@QuizmasterLaw]

Deadlock has ome amazing First Cylon War insights which I REALLY hope make it into Universal's upcoming movie!!!

[@LoreReloaded]

I enjoyed it

[@doctorclu]

Big fan of the original BSG and Blood and Chrome. BSG re-imagined did show, in my opinion, basically the original BSG timeline expanded and more fleshed out. Also ran with the course the show was taking clear to finding Earth (Starbuck being an angelic being and so forth) So kinda cool if you cut through all the felgercarb.

[@williamkinsey4979]

Brilliant and very funny thanks!

[@QuizmasterLaw]

I would like to work on a Slytherine game about the espionage aspects of the first and second cylon wars ^^

[@AgrippaMaxentius]

Epic video!

[@LoreReloaded]

I pride myself on my epicness..

[@WilliamDeemer]

Outstanding!

[@TheGaelicBrit]

Definitely interesting to get some canon tidbits about the First War where the Cylons don't just hack-2-win like a bunch of 12 year old Battlefront players! xD All in all, I look forward to getting the game myself, and trying it. See you in the skies, Admiral Lore? Might just have to show you how it's done. ^_^

[@LoreReloaded]

Yea, I wish they had more.. If you're not on my vidme channel, definetly go there to (doing a give-a-way) friday.. ;) And we shall endure in combat!

[@TheGaelicBrit]

I'll have to signup, never actually looked at Vidme more then once or twice over.. well actually.. since Generations of Darkness

[@LoreReloaded]

Yea, If I have to choose.. i want you watching, thumbing up, and commenting here.. But I am doing a give-a-way there for this game. Will tag you on twitter for the video so you have a chance to win ;) .. Yea , did you leave GoD for good then?

[@TheGaelicBrit]

Well I'll be sure to check out both; there for the Lore, but here for the gameplay. I wanna watch you crash ships man! Aaaand not for good, I took a bit of a brake mainly cause of life stuff, actually moving to an apartment flat of my own next monday. I have intentions to return, even have a new character idea in the works to return with.

[@TheGaelicBrit]

(And already signed up, followed and subscribed. $3 a month is hardly going to make me go bankrupt)

[@davidlutz2242]

Great video....really well done Thanks (Low Volume?)

[@LoreReloaded]

possible, i constantly battle audio issues, these older videos its more apparent..

[@evilwarcow]

I wonder what if the cylons tried invading earth in the 25th century in the Star Trek universe. Same goes for the Aliens in the 1990's Independence day movie. And I also wonder how the ID4 Aliens and the Cylons would fair against each other.

[@AlexSDU]

Which Cylon are we talking here? Original or Reimagine? If Reimagine's Cylon, they wouldn't stand a chance against the Federation or the Harvester.

[@ajet0452]

Dude if the cylons invaded 22nd century earth they would have lost, aside from maybe the ftl drives starfleet technology is vastly superior

[@TheKnightsShield]

@@ajet0452 Yep, true that. Why would they not be any good in the Federation's era of space exploration? One word: shields. The Cylons would lose a short battle without them against even a single Federation vessel. Which begs the question: how did the Galatica survive nuclear strikes from numerous Basestars on numerous ocassions without shields? Maybe Battlestars are made of tough stuff. One things for certain, they took a good licking and kept kicking!! So say we all!!

[@ajet0452]

@@TheKnightsShield Battlestars were heavily armored, they could take shot after shot and still keep going while cylon basestars weren't nearly as armored so thats why battlestars were so valuable. Also 22nd century earth had hull polarization and even without that I seriously doubt that basestarts would be even able to land a hit against starfleet ships which are very maneuverable and there fighters would only scratch the paint on the ship, plus starfleet could just beam a torpedo right into the basestar and boom battle over.

[@brianhu9700]

Are there any Cylons that did not rebel during the First Cylon War?

[@Fabian-Wenzel]

You must watch Battlestar Galactica - Blood and Chrome movie then you know the first Cylon war.

[@johnnykilroy4684]

Great video.

[@LoreReloaded]

Thanks! Promise will be getting back to Doctor Who ;) Are you a BSG fan or no?

[@johnnykilroy4684]

Lore Reloaded I started watching it after your first stream but I only got to the 2nd episode.

[@LoreReloaded]

Timing and such, or just not your thing? My first introduction to BSG was the miniseries of BattleStar Reimagined.. I was hooked at that point..

[@kencohagen4967]

We need a series to create canon for the first Cylon War which uses the facts presented by the second series. Too bad Syfy wouldn't do it. It takes a network with some balls to go there. Who will that be? I hope we find out!

[@TheKnightsShield]

Until then, we have the prequel series Caprica that explains how the Cylons were made and why.

[@johnnyscifi]

Galactica was the Battlestar made for the colony of Caprica, riight?

[@LoreReloaded]

I would have to double check - but I believe so.

[@emlynperson3976]

the first cylon war has to be on cobolt otherwise 13th tribe does not work.

[@benkeller6027]

Dang, really bad audio. This is very difficult to understand.

[@jamieolberding7731]

Can you please talk about the Colonial/Cylon War from the 1978 "BattleStar Galactica" TV Series next? I'm more of a fan of the classic series rather than the modern 2004 reimaged series!

[@paddy7812]

Me too, I was hoping this new one would have the Cylons being the progeny of an alien race like the original! Doesn’t look like that’s happening!

[@jamieolberding7731]

@@paddy7812 Very Sad................. but true.

[@paddy7812]

@@jamieolberding7731 Who knows, 10-20 years down the road I’m sure they’ll do another one!!

[@jamieolberding7731]

@@paddy7812 I really really really hope so too.

[@DoctorMikeWilson]

What is with the low volume?

[@Lord_Shadowz]

Lore reloaded says we need new computers. That no one else had a problem hearing it.

[@dougbaker4427]

if your going to fight a war first eat a big breakfast then run away and hide until it is all over.

[@cpob2013]

the flip side is why the hell would the articles government defend a non member world? join us, and contribute to the costs, and you get protection

[@LoreReloaded]

+Connor O'Brien Like a mob boss..

[@tuanvandersluis4433]

Who made the Cylons & why?

[@TheKnightsShield]

Members of the twelve colonies made them. They used them for just about everything, from construction all the way to helping people live their lives, in much the same way that we use technology these days. If I remember correctly, they were originally made on Caprica (going by the prequel series Caprica) and were being made to fight in wars, in place of humans. The Cyclons gained sentience (a soul, if you will) and decided that humanity was a flawed creation, so began the first Cylon war.

[@roberthaworth9097]

I don't get how BStars were "made for" a given planet. That's a stupid idea -- almost guaranteed to result in a very "brittle" and insubordinate fleet, whose members split up to attempt to defend their respective homeworlds (with a single BStar) once the going gets tough. Beter to say that a given ship was SPONSORED by a world -- i.e., that a subscription was raised on that world to fund construction of the ship, that she was in return given a name reminiscent of/important to that sponsoring world, and that maybe the world agreed to establish a pipeline of officers and recruits to ensure she stayed fully staffed on an ongoing basis. By by no means do as world "order", "own", or control a given BStar -- that's a recipe for disaster, like 12 little fleets instead of 1. The method I described is how most 19th and early 20th Century navies found the resources to build up their fleets, and it's the model you should prolly follow in describing how the Colonies would have done it.

[@scandor8599]

Sorry to necro, but it's not as daft as it first sounds. At this point in the war, each planet's own individual navy vastly outguns Colonial Fleet, and its these fleets that are doing the lion's share of the fighting. Colonial Fleet, I think, begins as a Combined Chiefs of Staff type organisation that has a small fleet, doing the missions that the Colonies' defence fleets won't do for various political and selfish strategic reasons. A bit like in XCOM 2012, where you're doing surgical strikes and taking the worst of the battles, but it's clear from the Situation Room ticker-tape news that each country is fighting its own war against the Aliens. The offer of a Jupiter to each colony is part bribe to join the alliance, part advertisement as to what can be achieved when they pool their resources. To pick up the XCOM analogy, it's like when you fulfil a request for body armour or advanced weapons from a XCOM member state. They get advanced kit to help hold off the aliens, but it also makes them more committed to the alliance too.

[@pjamese3]

Make the next one louder.

[@LoreReloaded]

Note upload date..lot of advancements since this..

[@bajaraemperor895]

why so quiet?

[@YogGroove]

What's up with all the 70s bsg fetishists in the comments?

[@maxmustermann1455]

They are already expelled from all other places and have nowhere else to go.

[@PRHILL9696]

This does not look like the real BG??

[@LoreReloaded]

hmm?

[@PRHILL9696]

It doesnt like right and I watch the show every week. Looks different

[@LoreReloaded]

Ok, this is based off the game and the really only lore that exists on it

[@PRHILL9696]

ok I thought it was from the show. Thanks for explaining

[@LoreReloaded]

There are two shows, if you're talking about BSG: Reimagined - I do use some of the clips from that show.

[@Fos3tex]

You know that this was just a TV show trying to ride the Star Wars scifi popularity, right? None of it is real. You don't need to have a back story. It's just a show! Fanbois!!

[@mateuszjokiel2813]

"I don't enjoy that thing you like, so you shouldn't either! You're enjoying media wrong because it's not exactly how I want it!" -- perfect logic, truly immaculate.

[@Lauri2014]

"...had begun..." not "...had began...".

[@LoreReloaded]

K

[@bobbiusshadow6985]

dude, the audio is too low

[@LoreReloaded]

Its been fixed in later videos

[@bobbiusshadow6985]

thanks, since it's an older video, was wondering if the "problem" has been remedied .... will continue to watch other vids...

[@LoreReloaded]

+Bobbius Shadow For an example..I just released a video about the Prometheus..if you check it out..you can see the difference

[@bobbiusshadow6985]

lol... yes, will do it now, thx

[@johnnyscifi]

Is deadlock good!!?

[@LoreReloaded]

I personally love it.

[@brycedahlke9078]

johnnyscifi its not bad. With some better game balancing it could be great though

[@Lord_Shadowz]

I can’t hear a word in this video and I have ear pods on full volume. Don’t bother trying to watch this one.

[@LoreReloaded]

Then get a new computer cause everyone else can hear it.. :)

[@Lord_Shadowz]

@@LoreReloaded weird I see others saying they cannot hear it either. I guess they should get new computers as well? It seems it would be easier for you to have just fixed the issue that’s on your end.

[@robhellner7822]

Quit slurring your P's jack wagon

[@duke13630]

the voice is too soft to hear.

[@fortkavanagh]

OH GOD I fuckinghate the remake of BattleStar Galactica

[@maxmustermann1455]

Oh God i fucking hate most of the original BSG lol.

[@fortkavanagh]

screw you Max Mustermann, at least the original wasn't written by scientologist and the original ISN'T dark & grim and was actually hopeful & fun!

[@maxmustermann1455]

I like dark & grim. Hope is for morons.

[@fortkavanagh]

fuck you man, I hate dark & grim, and we need more hopeful & fun enterntainment... now STOP bothering me!

[@bobbavet]

Not morons. Mormons. www.mormonthink.com/glossary/battlestargalactica.htm

[@lonewanderer5515]

Jesus can barely hear the voice over the music and even the that isn't that loude

[@LoreReloaded]

If you aren’t.. try headphones - I’m told that makes a difference

[@lonewanderer5515]

@@LoreReloaded thanks will give them a try 👍

[@LoreReloaded]

@@lonewanderer5515 My current stuff is a lot better about that though headphones is always best for my work unfortunately. I need to redo this stuff

[@lonewanderer5515]

@@LoreReloaded checking some of your video's out and not trying to be overly critical just was hard to hear the video which was a shame especially when you have put some time and effort into it.

[@LoreReloaded]

@@lonewanderer5515 Oh sure, I wasn't mad or anything. I was just trying to be helpful ;) Sound mixing is a constant struggle for me.

[@williammay5300]

Please cheack the original Battlestar Galactica from 1978.. It's way better...

[@johniii8147]

It’s fiction people there’s no need to spend so much time trying to figure out what never existed

[@mateuszjokiel2813]

"I don't enjoy that thing you like, so you shouldn't either! You're enjoying media wrong because it's not exactly how I want it!" -- perfect logic, truly immaculate.

[@frankcabanski9409]

Don't work with the new BSG - it was awful. Go with the real BSG, the original.

[@chuithrowaway77]

The rotten rotate morphometrically like because wood anaerobically bleach with a super river. scarce, laughable river

[@mentalrobb5062]

This isn't the real Battlestar Galactica. The Cylons were created by aliens.

[@LoreReloaded]

Fair enough

[@tlsrob6772]

This is the reimagined series, so therefore its real, they were created by humans, and gained sentience through Religious fanatics. Sorry the classic isn’t around, but this is what it is now.

[@Danny-gs7rv]

The original BSG was the best. The reimagined version was too depressing and rewrote to many things like that humans created the Cylons and not an alien race.

[@mister-v-3086]

The Original made it plain, that the Cylons were Human-made - at first.

[@dyoung4850]

Hauptman Walder No they where not Apollo explains it to Boxxy in the Saga of a Star World.

[@YogGroove]

Way better if humans made them. Makes a richer tapestry.

[@maxmustermann1455]

Weird Lizardpeople are a unnessary step inbetween. What's the point?

[@steelgreyed]

I grew up cutting my teeth on the original Battlestar, Buck Rogers, and the 80's run of Dr. Who. When I heard of the reboot I was first overjoyed then wait... The President AND STARBUCK are women? I was geek boy outraged. How can a cigar smoking misogynistic Loki possibly be played by a ......I love you Kara Thrace. You bring on the depressing aspect of the writing, I honestly thought the original to be too campy as everyone as happy and mostly smiling, despite all the genocide that had just happened, you could almost feel the happy day's vibe. I found out later it was because half the cast was loaded while on set, but I digress on depression verses psychosis on dealing with everyone you know and love is dead, and all you have is this metal bucket around you. .

[@dyoung4850]

Humans did not make cylons. Glen Larsen's Original is the only true Battle Star Galactica.