I'm sorry, when did appearing in court become an option for a convicted murderer?
@sentienthamsterАй бұрын
In absentia. It's been a thing since roman times.
@bthny7955Ай бұрын
Stephen Sterns has only showed up 1 time in court. Disgusting!
@queenofawesome2550Ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking.
@darrenheadrick3669Ай бұрын
I have a better question. How is it that a convicted murderer of her 2 kids in Idaho end up in Arizona instead if being in prison back in Idaho?
@jd-no7rwАй бұрын
@@darrenheadrick3669 She has conspiracy charges for murder in Arizona as well. These charges were brought after the Idaho charges because at that time the first wife's death was ruled natural causes and was only reopened after she was brought to trial in Idaho. It's a really complicated case. She will go back to Idaho after the trial in Arizona if I'm not mistaken.
@bakerwannabe4435Ай бұрын
She is in the custody of MCSO and already a convicted felon in another state and she is the one that gets to decide if she shows up or not? Who is running the show here? Unbelievable
@workreproduceperishАй бұрын
She has pulled this disappearing act for court before. She could be found in default.
@vlw4165Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@julieshelley-fd5kpАй бұрын
Exactly--who is running the show--smh!
@theshadowfax239Ай бұрын
Exactly, shackle her and drag her in.
@jeffreymartin6369Ай бұрын
Hey let her dig her own legal holes! She’s hurting only herself now. She can no longer harm anyone but herself! Those gals is prison will handle her easily enough. She pretty much thinks she’s God 😂! She can do whatever she wants to right? 🎉… it only backfires on her.
@NalaRichenbachАй бұрын
No matter what happens here, she'll never get out of prison alive.
@MaryFilkinsАй бұрын
I beleive that's why she skipped. She knows her act will slip out.
@WorldGoneKrazyАй бұрын
Amen!
@Wildstar40Ай бұрын
This is the United States and Trump is president. They will probably let her out simply because it is the wrong thing to do. NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American legal system.
@DewightBellАй бұрын
@@NalaRichenbach Bla, bla, bla.
@NalaRichenbachАй бұрын
@@DewightBell And that sums up Lori Vallow Dumbbell perfectly.
@vlw4165Ай бұрын
So, she's a prisoner. How does she get to dictate when/if she appears in court? Get a couple of strong bailiffs and haul her in.
@itsknotmagicАй бұрын
She has the right to not appear...they also habe the right to continue proceedings without her.. Full stop
@vlw4165Ай бұрын
@@itsknotmagic Looks like they will jolly well have to, then. If she doesn't like the outcome, she can't complain.
@skippykaufman4436Ай бұрын
Sanction her legal team - manipulation, false delay & much more.
@HippitidippityАй бұрын
Because whether or not an inmate decides to leave the cell doesn't stop the court from carry on however the court does not want disruptions especially in front of a jury
@LifesAPeach2MeАй бұрын
Isn't it pathetic how weak our Injustice System has become? You don't want to do that...okay. You need a vegetarian or kosher meal...okay. You want (fill in the blank)...okay, we'll see what we can do to accommodate you.
@BernadetteMierАй бұрын
why is she allowed anything? she didn't allow her children to live
@Hellfish_08Ай бұрын
Same with Chad
@MrBluecrab7Ай бұрын
Satan 👺
@dadvastator967Ай бұрын
It's tricky. If they don't respect her rights, then they don't have to respect anyone's rights, and Lori gets to go home because of a mistrial. Good day
@paulcolburn3855Ай бұрын
because.... feminism.
@gwenstone9685Ай бұрын
@@MrBluecrab7no it was selfishness not the make believe devil
@tamicox990Ай бұрын
I don’t know why they let her keep playing these games- try her and convict her- it’s that simple. Shes a criminal not your guest
@tidusjecht9143Ай бұрын
She's making them look like fools. I wonder how many others will start using these tactics.
@m.m.583Ай бұрын
Lori being a narcissist needs control of her matters this is how they operate. 🥴
@Marc-x3sАй бұрын
Because they still want to have their justice
@jimlewis2395Ай бұрын
How the racketeers gonna make they money then??? $$$$$$$$
@monicalewis5966Ай бұрын
It just goes to show how controlling and manipulating Lori truly is.
@DewightBellАй бұрын
@@monicalewis5966 Bla, bla, bla
@fetishisticroseАй бұрын
She's not in control of her life at all anymore. she's in prison.
@louniece1650Ай бұрын
@monicalewis5966, It definitely does. She's a real piece of....work.
@monicalewis5966Ай бұрын
@@louniece1650yup, agreed.
@elijahwilson142225 күн бұрын
@DewightBell nobody gave you permission to drop a pile of snark out of your caulq sucker
@theshadowfax239Ай бұрын
Her refusing to comply should be a sign that she's competent. She's sane enough to know the outcome of what would happen if she went through a competency test
@innocentnemesis3519Ай бұрын
She’s always been competent. Being highly manipulative isn’t a prohibitive mental health condition!
@SlimKeith11Ай бұрын
You don't have the slightest idea what a competency test entails. This is unreal, almost none of you is educated on the legal system, AT ALL but you think your feelings are as relevant as facts. It's disturbing and childish. No wonder the world fears for us.
@elijahwilson142225 күн бұрын
@SlimKeith11 she's absolutely doing what she is doing on purpose.
@imcopperАй бұрын
She is throwing a temper tantrum, she doesn't want anyone to diagnose her , she wants to be heard 1 more time.
@4happythoughtsАй бұрын
How can someone in prison not able to show up?
@BostonEsqАй бұрын
She is in jail, not prison
@stacy-jd7ltАй бұрын
@@BostonEsq no kidding...again the hag is in custody..how does it not show up?
@cathiemcintyre3921Ай бұрын
Lock her up forever. Vallow is a danger to society. Stop letting her get off for incompetence.
@Frankthetank-zr5mcАй бұрын
She will never het out. This is just a bow for the family.
@nikoqaddadeh3238Ай бұрын
She is a PRISIONER. She does NOT have the right to refuse. Shame on our redeculous fractured judicial system.
@kevinangus4848Ай бұрын
It is ridiculous. Give 'er the Hannibal Lechter treatment. 😁
@BostonEsqАй бұрын
She does have that right, and she is in jail not prison.
@SlimKeith11Ай бұрын
How do YOU Know what her rights are? Your feelings ain't facts Luv, as much as your cult tells you otherwise. They're just feelings.
@Joe-d7m6kАй бұрын
@@SlimKeith11As far as I am concerned--- she has no rights. Suck it up.
@HippitidippityАй бұрын
Look there's a lot of people that do not understand how this process works.. her not showing up is only against herself forcing a disruptive inmate to be in the courtroom isn't good for a jury to see so if an inmate does not refuses to come to court nobody is going to force them because court will continue without them and it just goes against their own interest in the end
@DM-lc2cfАй бұрын
She doesn't want to show how old she is looking from being in prison.
@LisaDiazAppleLisaАй бұрын
lol I had that thought too
@manda_musings8459Ай бұрын
Way to perpetuate societal obsession with female appearance
@levithewonderdog335Ай бұрын
So true 😂😂
@dw9034Ай бұрын
She hit the wall quick and hard
@amandavanheerden7980Ай бұрын
Huge manipulator - has been her whole life. Hold her in contempt. She's trying to play the system to get out. She's escaped the death penalty once.
@BostonEsqАй бұрын
She can never get the death penalty in Arizona, she was NOT charged with murder in Arizona.
@North_West1Ай бұрын
Hold her in contempt? How? She’s already locked up. I guess the court could fine her for contempt…but she has no money.
@SlimKeith11Ай бұрын
Actually, by all accounts she WASN'T mentally ill and highly manipulative 'her whole life". Her family has spoken at length on the subject. Your feelings about the subject ain't facts What she did was beyond disgraceful but the facts are, she was a good Mother, she adopted JJ, a special needs child and by all accounts was amazing with him until she allowed herself to get sucked up in this Evangelical crap, it set off a very serous mental illness. Those aren't excuses, they're explanations for her behavior. Be prepared, you're gonna see a lot of religious/delusional crap now the US has elected Trump and those religious zealots/hypocrites cronies. Long live the top 1% of americans.
@muffassa6739Ай бұрын
She should be in jail for the rest of her life ,no parole even she killed her children 😢
@48mastadonАй бұрын
I didn't know that you could just refuse to go to court. Fascinating....
@levithewonderdog335Ай бұрын
In Adam Montgomery's case he refused to attend trial but the judge enforced that he attended his sentencing
@ROKgemАй бұрын
I'm so sick of her crap..
@raceface48Ай бұрын
Her smug, smiling facial expressions are infuriating!!
@levithewonderdog335Ай бұрын
Reminds me of the evil Tiffanie Lucas
@lmcoopieАй бұрын
Not infuriating, just disgusting.
@travelinben1966Ай бұрын
Textbook sociopath.
@csic123Ай бұрын
People like her make my blood boil 😡🤬
@judyannstreich7499Ай бұрын
She is doing her "pageant prance" every time she enters the courtroom. All this attention is exactly what every narcissist craves and she is lapping it up like a cat with a bowl full of cream.
@candacejones8578Ай бұрын
She is a waste of oxygen . Should never ever see light of day for what she has done to her children alone .
@Delta-b9zАй бұрын
This judge is an idiot
@maxalberts2003Ай бұрын
There is that. I think she has charmed him. He must be badly off if he requires affirmation from a family annihilator.
@PartyClown-gh4gzАй бұрын
@@maxalberts2003 judges are usually liberal jews
@paulready8897Ай бұрын
The woman needs to be in prison and the key to her cell needs to be lost.
@SlimKeith11Ай бұрын
She IS in prison. Did you take the short bus to school? Are you following this AT all?
@SalveRegina8Ай бұрын
@@SlimKeith11dang Keith, he’s probably a young kid. Why so hostile?
@tammylorcher5169Ай бұрын
Question. She's in custody, how does she not have to go to these hearings?
@annemontanaro3795Ай бұрын
That's right Vallow just don't show up and it'll all go away.🙄
@cherylthompson2731Ай бұрын
She is another Diane Downs.
@S.BlondeАй бұрын
I agree but the difference in this case is that Chad Daybell and Alex killed his wife and they both helped Lori kill her kids too whereas Diane Downs likely did everything on her own. ALL of them are monsters but Lori, Chad, AND Alex are slightly worse than Diane Downs because they killed for monetary gain which proves they have mental competency whereas Elizabeth Downs likely killed her kids on a desperate whim to get with a man that did not want her or step children because she had no insurance policy that she tried to collect money from like Lori and Chad did.
@MoonChild-po9duАй бұрын
Lori has more bodies
@LplumleyАй бұрын
Yes, very similar personalities
@bobdenton1Ай бұрын
When Downs murdered and tried to murder her children, I lived in Eugene, Oregon.
@PsychiatricnerdАй бұрын
She is delusional. She will continue to be delusional. That’ll never change. Stop wasting time and resources to get her mind right. It will never be.
@journeytozen8047Ай бұрын
She is in custody #1 how the hell can she get away with this????🤬 #2 she wants to represent herself and does not cooperate or show up! 🤬 come on .. is this really being allowed??? 🤬🤬🤬 Is Darrell brooks advising her??
@lorileary4432Ай бұрын
who is Darrel Brooks ?
@journeytozen8047Ай бұрын
@ oh you have to google him!!! He was the crazy guy who drove through a thanksgiving day parade in Wisconsin. He represented hisself and was a hot mess!
@alanmcdermott2368Ай бұрын
that is putting it lightly @@journeytozen8047
@SlimKeith11Ай бұрын
This happens every day and the case proceeds without the defendant. It's her loss. You'all act like it's something rare.
@journeytozen8047Ай бұрын
@@SlimKeith11 well my darling, for this convicted murderer to first represent herself then to refuse to attend or help out with her case -to me personally is appalling! For them to pause a court case because a convicted felon refused is go is quite a shock! I am not a lawyer. I am a true crime fan who watched all kind of coverage on this particular case. Don’t think many cases cater to this kind of situation! Many cases would go on they would be penalized!
@janetmosier9182Ай бұрын
Here she goes again Lori playing games so she can be the center of attention. It's time to stop her manipulation once and for all. Pure evil. Though she is already convicted for the murders of JJ, Tylee and Tammy Charles and Brandon deserve Justice too
@skippykaufman4436Ай бұрын
It’s a disgrace. Her lawyers should be sanctioned, too. Maybe her sister inmates will bring some kind of justice.
@sharonashcraft6358Ай бұрын
Thanks for your coverage of this case Justin
@DLB42Ай бұрын
She murdered her children and flounces around in court smiling and laughing. Disgusting.
@I_Am_Your_ProblemАй бұрын
@DLB42 Got news for you lady... the mentally unwell. They don't respond the same as other people.
@GingersnapKatАй бұрын
The court needs to walk a fine line, follow things to a T. They dont want her getting let off on even a tiniest technicality if they can prevent it.
@XiaoFuryАй бұрын
Ok, MAKE her go to trial. She's already in jail.
@christophernewhouse5832Ай бұрын
She's never getting out they might as well just sentence her & save some tax $$$ 4 something else
@suebradley9251Ай бұрын
Charles needs justice and the police department didn't do anything when Charles reported that he was afraid for his life and they didn't do there job
@BostonEsqАй бұрын
It is NOT the job of the police to protect citizens from harm. They did their job.
@BostonEsqАй бұрын
THEIR not there.
@DavidWalls-sr1pgАй бұрын
@@BostonEsqpolice are there to watch the public.
@BostonEsqАй бұрын
@DavidWalls-sr1pg Their job is not to protect citizens from harm.
@DavidWalls-sr1pgАй бұрын
@BostonEsq I know. Their job is to keep an eye on the citizen. We've both said these things already.
@shawnhuff3920Ай бұрын
She won't show up she is guilty and knows the court can see that she is complete competent to be charged 😮
@chrismiller8771Ай бұрын
She will meet a real judge someday.we all know who I’m talking about.😮
@fancykitty7245Ай бұрын
She sure has aged. Evil coming out 😮
@briancooper2112Ай бұрын
Put her in general population
@lulamamie8524Ай бұрын
They will serve Justice!!!!
@midlifeandnailingit6342Ай бұрын
How does someone that’s locked up get a choice about anything?
@karenlarosa7826Ай бұрын
She should have been dragged into court! How dare her waste all this time!
@mlsa9520Ай бұрын
She's disgusting and creepy! Just wasting everyone's time.
@factualbreakdown3072Ай бұрын
I don't know what SHE wants and I don't care, but if she ISN'T being charged with a capital offense in the death of Charles Vallow, which she SHOULD BE, since she already has a life sentence, Arizona is just wasting time and money. While I oppose the death penalty, I acknowledge circumstances under which an argument can be made for it, this case being one of them!
@theshadowfax239Ай бұрын
The families of the other victims deserve information, proof, and closure. It is not a waste of money to provide them with that through trial.
@joephillips7612Ай бұрын
She was extremely competent at milling all those relatives but not competent to stand trial?
@kathy8207Ай бұрын
Isnt being in jail and prison a form of giving up your rights to your freedom? Why would she have the freedom to choose the ppl she killed and or tried to kill had no choice of what happened why should she
@butterflydana3856Ай бұрын
She is pulling the nutty stuff like she did in the kids Tylee & JJ's trial; nothing new in her attempts.
@LynnAdams-z4yАй бұрын
What is she doing out anyway if she was convicted that should’ve been it. But not showing up for her court date shows that she is in capable of responsibility and is hiding her shame
@kathy3178Ай бұрын
She is in prison. She refused to get in the transport van to go to court.
@TherapistmindАй бұрын
@@kathy3178exactly
@lorileary4432Ай бұрын
@@kathy3178, a couple of STRONG guards should have 'helped her' get in the van !
@VeteranGamerDad4ChristАй бұрын
how can you be in jail and refuse to show up ? "did you ask her nicely ?" "did you use big words ?" how about did you use 4 large correctional officers pick her up and drag her in ? the issue with being an adult, you dont have a choice
@I_Am_Your_ProblemАй бұрын
@VeteranGamerDad4Christ Despite reality proving you wrong... you still insist you are right. Typical bible banger. Anybody can fail to appear no matter where they are.
@VeteranGamerDad4ChristАй бұрын
@@I_Am_Your_Problem not sure what your message was but im pretty sure you are correct if you are incarcerated and are ordered to appear, how do you have a choice ?
@PrimetimeKCLАй бұрын
Thank you for relentlessly covering this story, Justin Lum!
@tvviewer4500Ай бұрын
How does an inmate refuse transportation to court?
@daisi4925Ай бұрын
Like everyone here, why is she out of prison or gets to make her choice on anything really. She should be locked away, for ever
@fredcsensits4476Ай бұрын
Hold the defense attorneys in contemp and putting them in jail
@mattd844Ай бұрын
10 months in a hospital but im literally dying and can only stay a week in the hospital…wtf!!
@rrkskАй бұрын
Since when is inmates willingly taken anywhere?
@UncleDavesKitchenАй бұрын
When I was in nursing school I had to do a rotation at the criminally mentally ill facility. I don't know what prison is like but going to a mental health facility can't be a better choice to make if you want to avoid sentencing to a penitentiary.
@kentfeliceАй бұрын
Why is this woman still alive?
@kathywright6853Ай бұрын
Hope justice is served
@cinnamonstickeats2929Ай бұрын
Is she doing the judge?? What's really going on here?? 🤔
@oaklandfan5262Ай бұрын
The judicial system is a complete joke
@brettlee-2112Ай бұрын
Some things aren't worth preservation.
@winstonthehavenese5269Ай бұрын
What a waste of court and taxpayers $’s.
@arizonabill1445Ай бұрын
I don't like to tell the Sheriff his job (out Sheriff is a great guy) but in this case I would have to say, I'll be happy to come down and show them how to get a prisoner to court.
@nikitakucherov5028Ай бұрын
Keep both psychopaths in prison forever whatever hearings and rules transpire over the years
@patrickosmium733Ай бұрын
As soon as a friend or family member starts on crazy religious babble, SHUT THAT S*** DOWN!!! Don't respect people's "beliefs".
@sharonkriskovich5911Ай бұрын
You bet she is sane enough to go forward unfit nothing farther from the truth and she is behind branden and killing her husband
@sammyduncan4723Ай бұрын
Go ahead and hold the trial without it being there
@shirl974Ай бұрын
Maybe she was having a bad hair day 🤔
@YouHadMeAtMoonPieАй бұрын
Probably needs her roots done 🙄
@Elisa-r7gАй бұрын
She is absolutely fit to stand trial she killed her children and her husband and her new husbands wife. She is a sick person who wanted anyone out of her way that didn’t fit into her plans. Don’t let her fool you
@tammylorcher5169Ай бұрын
And her brother.
@happydayz7857Ай бұрын
I can’t wait to see her defend herself in court 😂 this is going to be the biggest circus
@billiebobbienorton2556Ай бұрын
Let her go free and let the world know where she is........I think she'll get what's coming to her.
@oscarlavista7677Ай бұрын
She wanted to hire a fool for a lawyer.
@afvet5075Ай бұрын
So much for a speedy trial. She's stalling.
@cruzmizzlАй бұрын
Is this the 'Barbie Court' Peter was talking about in 'Family Guy'? OK, let's play along: Hmmm, Let's see... Where could she be hiding?
@marlaroberts2087Ай бұрын
Enough already! Guilty as sin!
@kate4biglittlevoicesАй бұрын
She still is very accustomed to getting what she wants
@williamjones7163Ай бұрын
She is playing the court like a cheap fiddle 🎻.
@tatanayaalexandra6967Ай бұрын
How does the deadbeat mother get to make the decision if she feels like showing up?
@PatrioticGmaАй бұрын
Her attorneys advised her not to, but I don't understand why.
@midlifeandnailingit6342Ай бұрын
Deadbeat parents don’t kill their children. She’s way worse than that!!
@JenniferFinley-cu2qmАй бұрын
That speaks for itself!!! 🤔 She's looney as heck ...
@Mimisof4Ай бұрын
She is a nut case but not insane!!!!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬
@kowgyrlАй бұрын
Has anyone seen the Rob Zombie film, The Devil's Rejects? Lori is just like "Baby" and "Mother Firefly"😱
@patrickfair9107Ай бұрын
She's not crazy she's just a monster.
@franksnowboarderАй бұрын
Just toss in prison for life and quit wasting time and money
@HeatherMorrow-q5hАй бұрын
They have always drug them in even if they don’t want to why is she allowed to b different
@scottthurman6135Ай бұрын
Our judicial system is failing miserably.
@graemeorr5884Ай бұрын
How is a murderer allowed to walk the streets
@Mr.Nobody_97Ай бұрын
Not a flight risk at all, I’m sure she will show up soon 🤡
@nebel-i5wАй бұрын
You wish for justice, America? Very well. 🎉
@robertbishop5357Ай бұрын
If she has been charged with 3 murders and one attempted murder why is she out?
@justinlumfox10Ай бұрын
She’s in jail but refused transported to court. She is accused of murder conspiracy for two cases, already convicted and sentenced for three murders in Idaho but now back in AZ for this.
@CthulhuismyheroАй бұрын
Why is there even a question? She knows EXACTLY what she is doing.
@rogerhuber3133Ай бұрын
Our Justice System is completely out of whack! She seems happy with everything that's happened.
@ericericgoodwin8147Ай бұрын
She seems so happy in jail
@LifesAPeach2MeАй бұрын
0:45 *I LOVE her new Smugshot!* It makes me laugh every time I see it! She prides herself on her looks and they are quickly vanishing. It's got to be tough on her! 🤣😂
@amistenson2535Ай бұрын
How does someone in custody refuse a court appearance?
@enjolras76Ай бұрын
I guess when you're guilty you can always just.......ignore it and refuse. worked for trump.
@tbecker97204Ай бұрын
I mean, um, doesn't *NOT* showing up in court usually mean a warrant is issued for your arrest, even in Arizona?
@victoriaanderson7954Ай бұрын
How do you refuse to show up if you're in custody?
@zcvxsАй бұрын
Zoom the court from her prison room. Tons of court cases are on zoom
@truecrimelover61Ай бұрын
surprised tho...she usually wants to be in front of the camera. bad hair day for her. thx.
@emlis9301Ай бұрын
Hair needs to go. Buzz cut
@S.BlondeАй бұрын
@@emlis9301 It will fall out. All that grey hair ain't good to have in jail and prison because that is just dead hear waiting to fall out if not maintained with certain chemicals not available in prison and jail. Same as her fillers that already dissolved by her first trial in Idaho. The REAL is that she will look like her mother in a couple years with whatever age quick and wrinkle up genes that family has.
@monicalewis5966Ай бұрын
@@emlis9301the hair is the star of the show.....every time. Buzz cut needed long time ago.
@emlis9301Ай бұрын
@@monicalewis5966 They should donate hair
@Kpictures_NYCАй бұрын
She's a narcissist and doesn't want to be held accountable. May she live a short horrible life.
@briang9581Ай бұрын
The inmate is running the asylum and the courthouse. The people supposedly in charge should be ashamed for letting this happen.
@jeffspicoli2643Ай бұрын
I don't know... she doesn't look crazy.
@frankdank7439Ай бұрын
She tried to save the world from a zombie apocalypse, and this is the thanks we gave her.